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Whenever the Office of President of the United States becomes vacant, whether by resignation, impeachment, ill health, whatever, the reason is immaterial.
Naturally, the Vice President takes over the presidency. No problem: sadly, it's happened before.
One of the new President's necessary acts is to select a new Vice-President, to fill out the remainder of the term before the next election. The selection must be approved by both the House and the Senate. However, the Senate is evenly split at 50 - 50.
Now there have been tie votes in the Senate, and they are resolved by the President of the Senate casting a deciding vote if he/she so chooses.
But, Constitutionally, the Vice-President is the President of the Senate! And there isn't one yet! The tie vote is to confirm the selection of a Vice-President!
So, in the absence of a Vice-President, how is a tie in a Senate vote decided?
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Whenever the Office of President of the United States becomes vacant, whether by resignation, impeachment, ill health, whatever, the reason is immaterial.
Naturally, the Vice President takes over the presidency. No problem: sadly, it's happened before.
One of the new President's necessary acts is to select a new Vice-President, to fill out the remainder of the term before the next election. The selection must be approved by both the House and the Senate. However, the Senate is evenly split at 50 - 50.
Now there have been tie votes in the Senate, and they are resolved by the President of the Senate casting a deciding vote if he/she so chooses.
But, Constitutionally, the Vice-President is the President of the Senate! And there isn't one yet! The tie vote is to confirm the selection of a Vice-President!
So, in the absence of a Vice-President, how is a tie in a Senate vote decided?
united-states us-constitution president vice-president
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DJohnM
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Whenever the Office of President of the United States becomes vacant, whether by resignation, impeachment, ill health, whatever, the reason is immaterial.
Naturally, the Vice President takes over the presidency. No problem: sadly, it's happened before.
One of the new President's necessary acts is to select a new Vice-President, to fill out the remainder of the term before the next election. The selection must be approved by both the House and the Senate. However, the Senate is evenly split at 50 - 50.
Now there have been tie votes in the Senate, and they are resolved by the President of the Senate casting a deciding vote if he/she so chooses.
But, Constitutionally, the Vice-President is the President of the Senate! And there isn't one yet! The tie vote is to confirm the selection of a Vice-President!
So, in the absence of a Vice-President, how is a tie in a Senate vote decided?
united-states us-constitution president vice-president
edited 25 mins ago
Cos Callis
1756
asked 3 hours ago
DJohnM
278210
Whenever the Office of President of the United States becomes vacant, whether by resignation, impeachment, ill health, whatever, the reason is immaterial.
Naturally, the Vice President takes over the presidency. No problem: sadly, it's happened before.
One of the new President's necessary acts is to select a new Vice-President, to fill out the remainder of the term before the next election. The selection must be approved by both the House and the Senate. However, the Senate is evenly split at 50 - 50.
Now there have been tie votes in the Senate, and they are resolved by the President of the Senate casting a deciding vote if he/she so chooses.
But, Constitutionally, the Vice-President is the President of the Senate! And there isn't one yet! The tie vote is to confirm the selection of a Vice-President!
So, in the absence of a Vice-President, how is a tie in a Senate vote decided?
united-states us-constitution president vice-president
united-states us-constitution president vice-president
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The Twenty-fifth Amendment states:
Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the
President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon
confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.
Thus, in the absence of a majority the candidate would be denied the office.
answered 3 hours ago
Cos Callis
1756
...and then what?
– Strawberry
3 hours ago
1
the new president would have to appoint another candidate and the process would start all over... technically. In reality they would know the results before the voting ever began and would probably pick another candidate going into the confirmation hearings.
– Cos Callis
3 hours ago
But what if the Senate majority could be reached by the vote of the President of the Senate? Who holds this position when there is no VP?
– DJohnM
1 hour ago
1
@DJohnM nobody
– Cos Callis
1 hour ago
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The general rule is that a tie vote in either house of Congress loses. Note that the Vice President may vote to create a tie, so that if the senate votes for some measure by 50-49 (one senator being absent or not voting for some reason), the Vice President may vote against it, create a tie, and the measure does not pass.
answered 2 hours ago
David Siegel
2,464421
Please proof-read, are you claiming (incorrectly) that the Vice President may vote to CREATE a tie (or is that a typo) If that is not a typo, please source a single example of that. The Vice President may only vote AFTER the tie has been declared.
– Cos Callis
1 hour ago
US Constitution, Article I, section 3, paragraph 4: "The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided."
– David Thornley
13 mins ago
@DavidThornley please change your name, it is confusing to look at the answerer and your name and not immediately realize it was not the answerer responding.
– opa
11 mins ago
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2 Answers
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oldest
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
4
down vote
The Twenty-fifth Amendment states:
Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the
President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon
confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.
Thus, in the absence of a majority the candidate would be denied the office.
answered 3 hours ago
Cos Callis
1756
...and then what?
– Strawberry
3 hours ago
1
the new president would have to appoint another candidate and the process would start all over... technically. In reality they would know the results before the voting ever began and would probably pick another candidate going into the confirmation hearings.
– Cos Callis
3 hours ago
But what if the Senate majority could be reached by the vote of the President of the Senate? Who holds this position when there is no VP?
– DJohnM
1 hour ago
1
@DJohnM nobody
– Cos Callis
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
The Twenty-fifth Amendment states:
Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the
President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon
confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.
Thus, in the absence of a majority the candidate would be denied the office.
answered 3 hours ago
Cos Callis
1756
...and then what?
– Strawberry
3 hours ago
1
the new president would have to appoint another candidate and the process would start all over... technically. In reality they would know the results before the voting ever began and would probably pick another candidate going into the confirmation hearings.
– Cos Callis
3 hours ago
But what if the Senate majority could be reached by the vote of the President of the Senate? Who holds this position when there is no VP?
– DJohnM
1 hour ago
1
@DJohnM nobody
– Cos Callis
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
up vote
4
down vote
The Twenty-fifth Amendment states:
Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the
President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon
confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.
Thus, in the absence of a majority the candidate would be denied the office.
answered 3 hours ago
Cos Callis
1756
The Twenty-fifth Amendment states:
Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the
President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon
confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.
Thus, in the absence of a majority the candidate would be denied the office.
answered 3 hours ago
Cos Callis
1756
answered 3 hours ago
Cos Callis
1756
answered 3 hours ago
Cos Callis
1756
answered 3 hours ago
Cos Callis
1756
1756
...and then what?
– Strawberry
3 hours ago
1
the new president would have to appoint another candidate and the process would start all over... technically. In reality they would know the results before the voting ever began and would probably pick another candidate going into the confirmation hearings.
– Cos Callis
3 hours ago
But what if the Senate majority could be reached by the vote of the President of the Senate? Who holds this position when there is no VP?
– DJohnM
1 hour ago
1
@DJohnM nobody
– Cos Callis
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
...and then what?
– Strawberry
3 hours ago
1
the new president would have to appoint another candidate and the process would start all over... technically. In reality they would know the results before the voting ever began and would probably pick another candidate going into the confirmation hearings.
– Cos Callis
3 hours ago
But what if the Senate majority could be reached by the vote of the President of the Senate? Who holds this position when there is no VP?
– DJohnM
1 hour ago
1
@DJohnM nobody
– Cos Callis
1 hour ago
...and then what?
– Strawberry
3 hours ago
...and then what?
– Strawberry
3 hours ago
1
1
the new president would have to appoint another candidate and the process would start all over... technically. In reality they would know the results before the voting ever began and would probably pick another candidate going into the confirmation hearings.
– Cos Callis
3 hours ago
the new president would have to appoint another candidate and the process would start all over... technically. In reality they would know the results before the voting ever began and would probably pick another candidate going into the confirmation hearings.
– Cos Callis
3 hours ago
But what if the Senate majority could be reached by the vote of the President of the Senate? Who holds this position when there is no VP?
– DJohnM
1 hour ago
But what if the Senate majority could be reached by the vote of the President of the Senate? Who holds this position when there is no VP?
– DJohnM
1 hour ago
1
1
@DJohnM nobody
– Cos Callis
1 hour ago
@DJohnM nobody
– Cos Callis
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
The general rule is that a tie vote in either house of Congress loses. Note that the Vice President may vote to create a tie, so that if the senate votes for some measure by 50-49 (one senator being absent or not voting for some reason), the Vice President may vote against it, create a tie, and the measure does not pass.
answered 2 hours ago
David Siegel
2,464421
Please proof-read, are you claiming (incorrectly) that the Vice President may vote to CREATE a tie (or is that a typo) If that is not a typo, please source a single example of that. The Vice President may only vote AFTER the tie has been declared.
– Cos Callis
1 hour ago
US Constitution, Article I, section 3, paragraph 4: "The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided."
– David Thornley
13 mins ago
@DavidThornley please change your name, it is confusing to look at the answerer and your name and not immediately realize it was not the answerer responding.
– opa
11 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
The general rule is that a tie vote in either house of Congress loses. Note that the Vice President may vote to create a tie, so that if the senate votes for some measure by 50-49 (one senator being absent or not voting for some reason), the Vice President may vote against it, create a tie, and the measure does not pass.
answered 2 hours ago
David Siegel
2,464421
Please proof-read, are you claiming (incorrectly) that the Vice President may vote to CREATE a tie (or is that a typo) If that is not a typo, please source a single example of that. The Vice President may only vote AFTER the tie has been declared.
– Cos Callis
1 hour ago
US Constitution, Article I, section 3, paragraph 4: "The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided."
– David Thornley
13 mins ago
@DavidThornley please change your name, it is confusing to look at the answerer and your name and not immediately realize it was not the answerer responding.
– opa
11 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
The general rule is that a tie vote in either house of Congress loses. Note that the Vice President may vote to create a tie, so that if the senate votes for some measure by 50-49 (one senator being absent or not voting for some reason), the Vice President may vote against it, create a tie, and the measure does not pass.
answered 2 hours ago
David Siegel
2,464421
The general rule is that a tie vote in either house of Congress loses. Note that the Vice President may vote to create a tie, so that if the senate votes for some measure by 50-49 (one senator being absent or not voting for some reason), the Vice President may vote against it, create a tie, and the measure does not pass.
answered 2 hours ago
David Siegel
2,464421
answered 2 hours ago
David Siegel
2,464421
answered 2 hours ago
David Siegel
2,464421
answered 2 hours ago
David Siegel
2,464421
2,464421
Please proof-read, are you claiming (incorrectly) that the Vice President may vote to CREATE a tie (or is that a typo) If that is not a typo, please source a single example of that. The Vice President may only vote AFTER the tie has been declared.
– Cos Callis
1 hour ago
US Constitution, Article I, section 3, paragraph 4: "The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided."
– David Thornley
13 mins ago
@DavidThornley please change your name, it is confusing to look at the answerer and your name and not immediately realize it was not the answerer responding.
– opa
11 mins ago
add a comment |Â
Please proof-read, are you claiming (incorrectly) that the Vice President may vote to CREATE a tie (or is that a typo) If that is not a typo, please source a single example of that. The Vice President may only vote AFTER the tie has been declared.
– Cos Callis
1 hour ago
US Constitution, Article I, section 3, paragraph 4: "The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided."
– David Thornley
13 mins ago
@DavidThornley please change your name, it is confusing to look at the answerer and your name and not immediately realize it was not the answerer responding.
– opa
11 mins ago
Please proof-read, are you claiming (incorrectly) that the Vice President may vote to CREATE a tie (or is that a typo) If that is not a typo, please source a single example of that. The Vice President may only vote AFTER the tie has been declared.
– Cos Callis
1 hour ago
Please proof-read, are you claiming (incorrectly) that the Vice President may vote to CREATE a tie (or is that a typo) If that is not a typo, please source a single example of that. The Vice President may only vote AFTER the tie has been declared.
– Cos Callis
1 hour ago
US Constitution, Article I, section 3, paragraph 4: "The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided."
– David Thornley
13 mins ago
US Constitution, Article I, section 3, paragraph 4: "The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided."
– David Thornley
13 mins ago
@DavidThornley please change your name, it is confusing to look at the answerer and your name and not immediately realize it was not the answerer responding.
– opa
11 mins ago
@DavidThornley please change your name, it is confusing to look at the answerer and your name and not immediately realize it was not the answerer responding.
– opa
11 mins ago
add a comment |Â
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