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Can you target gases and liquids with the Animate Objects spell?
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The spell Animate Objects states:
Choose up to ten nonmagical Objects within range that are not being worn or carried. Medium Targets count as two Objects, Large Targets count as four Objects, Huge Targets count as eight Objects. You can't animate any object larger than Huge. Each target animates and becomes a creature under your control until the spell ends or until reduced to 0 Hit Points.
The spell description doesn't mention the objects needing to be solid, so I was wondering if there are limitations with regards to animating gases or liquids.
Could you choose to animate a cloud of fog or smoke? A puddle? A small pond? Perhaps the contents of a vial of acid?
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The spell Animate Objects states:
Choose up to ten nonmagical Objects within range that are not being worn or carried. Medium Targets count as two Objects, Large Targets count as four Objects, Huge Targets count as eight Objects. You can't animate any object larger than Huge. Each target animates and becomes a creature under your control until the spell ends or until reduced to 0 Hit Points.
The spell description doesn't mention the objects needing to be solid, so I was wondering if there are limitations with regards to animating gases or liquids.
Could you choose to animate a cloud of fog or smoke? A puddle? A small pond? Perhaps the contents of a vial of acid?
dnd-5e spells
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The spell Animate Objects states:
Choose up to ten nonmagical Objects within range that are not being worn or carried. Medium Targets count as two Objects, Large Targets count as four Objects, Huge Targets count as eight Objects. You can't animate any object larger than Huge. Each target animates and becomes a creature under your control until the spell ends or until reduced to 0 Hit Points.
The spell description doesn't mention the objects needing to be solid, so I was wondering if there are limitations with regards to animating gases or liquids.
Could you choose to animate a cloud of fog or smoke? A puddle? A small pond? Perhaps the contents of a vial of acid?
dnd-5e spells
asked 2 hours ago
user48255
1,877213
The spell Animate Objects states:
Choose up to ten nonmagical Objects within range that are not being worn or carried. Medium Targets count as two Objects, Large Targets count as four Objects, Huge Targets count as eight Objects. You can't animate any object larger than Huge. Each target animates and becomes a creature under your control until the spell ends or until reduced to 0 Hit Points.
The spell description doesn't mention the objects needing to be solid, so I was wondering if there are limitations with regards to animating gases or liquids.
Could you choose to animate a cloud of fog or smoke? A puddle? A small pond? Perhaps the contents of a vial of acid?
dnd-5e spells
dnd-5e spells
asked 2 hours ago
user48255
1,877213
asked 2 hours ago
user48255
1,877213
asked 2 hours ago
user48255
1,877213
asked 2 hours ago
user48255
1,877213
asked 2 hours ago
user48255
1,877213
1,877213
Related: What is considered an object?
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Related: Can Telekinesis be used to manipulate liquids?
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2 hours ago
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Related: What is considered an object?
– Slagmoth
2 hours ago
Related: Can Telekinesis be used to manipulate liquids?
– Slagmoth
2 hours ago
Related: What is considered an object?
– Slagmoth
2 hours ago
Related: What is considered an object?
– Slagmoth
2 hours ago
Related: Can Telekinesis be used to manipulate liquids?
– Slagmoth
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Related: Can Telekinesis be used to manipulate liquids?
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Nope.
From the DMG at "Objects" (p.246):
For the purpose of these rules, an object is a discrete, inanimate item like a window, door, sword, book, table, chair, or stone....
Your gases and liquids aren't "discrete items" in any natural-language sense of the word, so they're not (game) objects and aren't valid targets for animate objects.
answered 2 hours ago
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How is a puddle not a 'discrete' object? Unlike a cloud, it's clear on where the puddle begins and ends. I agree on a cloud of gas, but a puddle is a defined shape. Nowhere in that description does it say an object has to be solid.
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Yes. Kind of.
The Objects section cited on pg 246 by @nitsua60 says:
For the purpose of these rules, an object is a discrete, inanimate
item like a window, door, sword, book, table, chair, or stone...
But discrete, according to Dictionary.com:
Discrete:
adjective
apart or detached from others; separate; distinct:
...
consisting of or characterized by distinct or individual parts; discontinuous.
Clearly, a puddle or cloud of vapor or gas can be considered 'discrete' by the dictionary definition (DnD does not provide a special definition of a 'discrete' object, however a quantity of water from a larger pond or lake, or a part of a cloud or a fog bank could not be considered discrete. Nor could one cobblestone in the road, unless you dug it out.
So sure, you could Animate any of these things, but nothing about the spell gives them solidity. Your gas cloud couldn't hold itself together, your puddle wouldn't have any integrity to keep it from drying out or being splashed apart. Your DM might rule that such a creature would have 0 hit points from the outset, and the spell would fail immediately. However, animating a nifty water or cloud creature could be a Rule of Cool thing, so give it a try.
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2 Answers
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Nope.
From the DMG at "Objects" (p.246):
For the purpose of these rules, an object is a discrete, inanimate item like a window, door, sword, book, table, chair, or stone....
Your gases and liquids aren't "discrete items" in any natural-language sense of the word, so they're not (game) objects and aren't valid targets for animate objects.
answered 2 hours ago
nitsua60♦
70k12286411
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How is a puddle not a 'discrete' object? Unlike a cloud, it's clear on where the puddle begins and ends. I agree on a cloud of gas, but a puddle is a defined shape. Nowhere in that description does it say an object has to be solid.
– MarkTO
29 mins ago
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Nope.
From the DMG at "Objects" (p.246):
For the purpose of these rules, an object is a discrete, inanimate item like a window, door, sword, book, table, chair, or stone....
Your gases and liquids aren't "discrete items" in any natural-language sense of the word, so they're not (game) objects and aren't valid targets for animate objects.
answered 2 hours ago
nitsua60♦
70k12286411
1
How is a puddle not a 'discrete' object? Unlike a cloud, it's clear on where the puddle begins and ends. I agree on a cloud of gas, but a puddle is a defined shape. Nowhere in that description does it say an object has to be solid.
– MarkTO
29 mins ago
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Nope.
From the DMG at "Objects" (p.246):
For the purpose of these rules, an object is a discrete, inanimate item like a window, door, sword, book, table, chair, or stone....
Your gases and liquids aren't "discrete items" in any natural-language sense of the word, so they're not (game) objects and aren't valid targets for animate objects.
answered 2 hours ago
nitsua60♦
70k12286411
Nope.
From the DMG at "Objects" (p.246):
For the purpose of these rules, an object is a discrete, inanimate item like a window, door, sword, book, table, chair, or stone....
Your gases and liquids aren't "discrete items" in any natural-language sense of the word, so they're not (game) objects and aren't valid targets for animate objects.
answered 2 hours ago
nitsua60♦
70k12286411
answered 2 hours ago
nitsua60♦
70k12286411
answered 2 hours ago
nitsua60♦
70k12286411
answered 2 hours ago
nitsua60♦
70k12286411
70k12286411
1
How is a puddle not a 'discrete' object? Unlike a cloud, it's clear on where the puddle begins and ends. I agree on a cloud of gas, but a puddle is a defined shape. Nowhere in that description does it say an object has to be solid.
– MarkTO
29 mins ago
add a comment |Â
1
How is a puddle not a 'discrete' object? Unlike a cloud, it's clear on where the puddle begins and ends. I agree on a cloud of gas, but a puddle is a defined shape. Nowhere in that description does it say an object has to be solid.
– MarkTO
29 mins ago
1
1
How is a puddle not a 'discrete' object? Unlike a cloud, it's clear on where the puddle begins and ends. I agree on a cloud of gas, but a puddle is a defined shape. Nowhere in that description does it say an object has to be solid.
– MarkTO
29 mins ago
How is a puddle not a 'discrete' object? Unlike a cloud, it's clear on where the puddle begins and ends. I agree on a cloud of gas, but a puddle is a defined shape. Nowhere in that description does it say an object has to be solid.
– MarkTO
29 mins ago
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Yes. Kind of.
The Objects section cited on pg 246 by @nitsua60 says:
For the purpose of these rules, an object is a discrete, inanimate
item like a window, door, sword, book, table, chair, or stone...
But discrete, according to Dictionary.com:
Discrete:
adjective
apart or detached from others; separate; distinct:
...
consisting of or characterized by distinct or individual parts; discontinuous.
Clearly, a puddle or cloud of vapor or gas can be considered 'discrete' by the dictionary definition (DnD does not provide a special definition of a 'discrete' object, however a quantity of water from a larger pond or lake, or a part of a cloud or a fog bank could not be considered discrete. Nor could one cobblestone in the road, unless you dug it out.
So sure, you could Animate any of these things, but nothing about the spell gives them solidity. Your gas cloud couldn't hold itself together, your puddle wouldn't have any integrity to keep it from drying out or being splashed apart. Your DM might rule that such a creature would have 0 hit points from the outset, and the spell would fail immediately. However, animating a nifty water or cloud creature could be a Rule of Cool thing, so give it a try.
answered 12 mins ago
MarkTO
76813
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up vote
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Yes. Kind of.
The Objects section cited on pg 246 by @nitsua60 says:
For the purpose of these rules, an object is a discrete, inanimate
item like a window, door, sword, book, table, chair, or stone...
But discrete, according to Dictionary.com:
Discrete:
adjective
apart or detached from others; separate; distinct:
...
consisting of or characterized by distinct or individual parts; discontinuous.
Clearly, a puddle or cloud of vapor or gas can be considered 'discrete' by the dictionary definition (DnD does not provide a special definition of a 'discrete' object, however a quantity of water from a larger pond or lake, or a part of a cloud or a fog bank could not be considered discrete. Nor could one cobblestone in the road, unless you dug it out.
So sure, you could Animate any of these things, but nothing about the spell gives them solidity. Your gas cloud couldn't hold itself together, your puddle wouldn't have any integrity to keep it from drying out or being splashed apart. Your DM might rule that such a creature would have 0 hit points from the outset, and the spell would fail immediately. However, animating a nifty water or cloud creature could be a Rule of Cool thing, so give it a try.
answered 12 mins ago
MarkTO
76813
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up vote
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Yes. Kind of.
The Objects section cited on pg 246 by @nitsua60 says:
For the purpose of these rules, an object is a discrete, inanimate
item like a window, door, sword, book, table, chair, or stone...
But discrete, according to Dictionary.com:
Discrete:
adjective
apart or detached from others; separate; distinct:
...
consisting of or characterized by distinct or individual parts; discontinuous.
Clearly, a puddle or cloud of vapor or gas can be considered 'discrete' by the dictionary definition (DnD does not provide a special definition of a 'discrete' object, however a quantity of water from a larger pond or lake, or a part of a cloud or a fog bank could not be considered discrete. Nor could one cobblestone in the road, unless you dug it out.
So sure, you could Animate any of these things, but nothing about the spell gives them solidity. Your gas cloud couldn't hold itself together, your puddle wouldn't have any integrity to keep it from drying out or being splashed apart. Your DM might rule that such a creature would have 0 hit points from the outset, and the spell would fail immediately. However, animating a nifty water or cloud creature could be a Rule of Cool thing, so give it a try.
answered 12 mins ago
MarkTO
76813
Yes. Kind of.
The Objects section cited on pg 246 by @nitsua60 says:
For the purpose of these rules, an object is a discrete, inanimate
item like a window, door, sword, book, table, chair, or stone...
But discrete, according to Dictionary.com:
Discrete:
adjective
apart or detached from others; separate; distinct:
...
consisting of or characterized by distinct or individual parts; discontinuous.
Clearly, a puddle or cloud of vapor or gas can be considered 'discrete' by the dictionary definition (DnD does not provide a special definition of a 'discrete' object, however a quantity of water from a larger pond or lake, or a part of a cloud or a fog bank could not be considered discrete. Nor could one cobblestone in the road, unless you dug it out.
So sure, you could Animate any of these things, but nothing about the spell gives them solidity. Your gas cloud couldn't hold itself together, your puddle wouldn't have any integrity to keep it from drying out or being splashed apart. Your DM might rule that such a creature would have 0 hit points from the outset, and the spell would fail immediately. However, animating a nifty water or cloud creature could be a Rule of Cool thing, so give it a try.
answered 12 mins ago
MarkTO
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Related: What is considered an object?
– Slagmoth
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Related: Can Telekinesis be used to manipulate liquids?
– Slagmoth
2 hours ago