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Is it legal to transmit using HackRF one (in Germany), the purpose is to do some Lab research and Academic experiments.



for example i want to broadcast an FM signal using HackRF one and try to receive it using another hardware (RTL-SDR).



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    Is it legal to transmit using HackRF one (in Germany), the purpose is to do some Lab research and Academic experiments.



    for example i want to broadcast an FM signal using HackRF one and try to receive it using another hardware (RTL-SDR).



    If no is there another legal alternative?










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      Is it legal to transmit using HackRF one (in Germany), the purpose is to do some Lab research and Academic experiments.



      for example i want to broadcast an FM signal using HackRF one and try to receive it using another hardware (RTL-SDR).



      If no is there another legal alternative?










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      Is it legal to transmit using HackRF one (in Germany), the purpose is to do some Lab research and Academic experiments.



      for example i want to broadcast an FM signal using HackRF one and try to receive it using another hardware (RTL-SDR).



      If no is there another legal alternative?







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          You'll need an experimental radio license (Versuchsfunk) from Bundesnetzagentur link for research operation.



          For demonstration/teaching purposes, a demonstration radio license (Demonstrationsfunk für Bildungseinrichtungen) would be in order.



          I'm not a lawyer nor have I ever applied for either of these; I'd recommend contacting BNetzA on these aspects. Whenever I contacted them, they were super friendly and swift.



          A loophole here might (again, ask BNetzA if in doubt) be general low power transmitter licenses as used by e.g. the small dongles that you can plug into your iPhone to make your car stereo receive on FM what your phone is playing. I know that there's a pretty low power limit for these (nW range), but that might be perfectly suitable for your use case. What I don't know is whether the devices in question need to be type-approved (which would rule out the HackRF completely, as it can do anything) or whether guaranteeing that your device won't do anything bad is sufficient at these power levels.






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          • Thank you Sir ... i am thinking also on maybe listening to some radio channel and work on that for the moment ... In fact the real thing behind my question is that if i want to try something else on the future like changing the modulation, add a channel coding, i have to find a legal way to do it myself ... But again Thank you.
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          • well, the path is pretty straightforward if you believe BNetzA's own documentation on the pages I've linked to above.
            – Marcus Müller
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          As for other legal alternatives, one might be transmitting inside a suitably shielded Faraday cage. I’ve seen such facilities at labs where various prototype and pre-production (and competitors?) electronics systems were being tested to measure how far out-of legal compliance they were.






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            Do you have to actually transmit, or can you make do with a cable, some attenuators, and perhaps a noise source?



            It won't behave like a real RF channel, but maybe that won't matter.






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              You'll need an experimental radio license (Versuchsfunk) from Bundesnetzagentur link for research operation.



              For demonstration/teaching purposes, a demonstration radio license (Demonstrationsfunk für Bildungseinrichtungen) would be in order.



              I'm not a lawyer nor have I ever applied for either of these; I'd recommend contacting BNetzA on these aspects. Whenever I contacted them, they were super friendly and swift.



              A loophole here might (again, ask BNetzA if in doubt) be general low power transmitter licenses as used by e.g. the small dongles that you can plug into your iPhone to make your car stereo receive on FM what your phone is playing. I know that there's a pretty low power limit for these (nW range), but that might be perfectly suitable for your use case. What I don't know is whether the devices in question need to be type-approved (which would rule out the HackRF completely, as it can do anything) or whether guaranteeing that your device won't do anything bad is sufficient at these power levels.






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              • Thank you Sir ... i am thinking also on maybe listening to some radio channel and work on that for the moment ... In fact the real thing behind my question is that if i want to try something else on the future like changing the modulation, add a channel coding, i have to find a legal way to do it myself ... But again Thank you.
                – A.SDR
                3 hours ago










              • well, the path is pretty straightforward if you believe BNetzA's own documentation on the pages I've linked to above.
                – Marcus Müller
                3 hours ago














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              accepted










              You'll need an experimental radio license (Versuchsfunk) from Bundesnetzagentur link for research operation.



              For demonstration/teaching purposes, a demonstration radio license (Demonstrationsfunk für Bildungseinrichtungen) would be in order.



              I'm not a lawyer nor have I ever applied for either of these; I'd recommend contacting BNetzA on these aspects. Whenever I contacted them, they were super friendly and swift.



              A loophole here might (again, ask BNetzA if in doubt) be general low power transmitter licenses as used by e.g. the small dongles that you can plug into your iPhone to make your car stereo receive on FM what your phone is playing. I know that there's a pretty low power limit for these (nW range), but that might be perfectly suitable for your use case. What I don't know is whether the devices in question need to be type-approved (which would rule out the HackRF completely, as it can do anything) or whether guaranteeing that your device won't do anything bad is sufficient at these power levels.






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              • Thank you Sir ... i am thinking also on maybe listening to some radio channel and work on that for the moment ... In fact the real thing behind my question is that if i want to try something else on the future like changing the modulation, add a channel coding, i have to find a legal way to do it myself ... But again Thank you.
                – A.SDR
                3 hours ago










              • well, the path is pretty straightforward if you believe BNetzA's own documentation on the pages I've linked to above.
                – Marcus Müller
                3 hours ago












              up vote
              2
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              accepted







              up vote
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              accepted






              You'll need an experimental radio license (Versuchsfunk) from Bundesnetzagentur link for research operation.



              For demonstration/teaching purposes, a demonstration radio license (Demonstrationsfunk für Bildungseinrichtungen) would be in order.



              I'm not a lawyer nor have I ever applied for either of these; I'd recommend contacting BNetzA on these aspects. Whenever I contacted them, they were super friendly and swift.



              A loophole here might (again, ask BNetzA if in doubt) be general low power transmitter licenses as used by e.g. the small dongles that you can plug into your iPhone to make your car stereo receive on FM what your phone is playing. I know that there's a pretty low power limit for these (nW range), but that might be perfectly suitable for your use case. What I don't know is whether the devices in question need to be type-approved (which would rule out the HackRF completely, as it can do anything) or whether guaranteeing that your device won't do anything bad is sufficient at these power levels.






              share|improve this answer












              You'll need an experimental radio license (Versuchsfunk) from Bundesnetzagentur link for research operation.



              For demonstration/teaching purposes, a demonstration radio license (Demonstrationsfunk für Bildungseinrichtungen) would be in order.



              I'm not a lawyer nor have I ever applied for either of these; I'd recommend contacting BNetzA on these aspects. Whenever I contacted them, they were super friendly and swift.



              A loophole here might (again, ask BNetzA if in doubt) be general low power transmitter licenses as used by e.g. the small dongles that you can plug into your iPhone to make your car stereo receive on FM what your phone is playing. I know that there's a pretty low power limit for these (nW range), but that might be perfectly suitable for your use case. What I don't know is whether the devices in question need to be type-approved (which would rule out the HackRF completely, as it can do anything) or whether guaranteeing that your device won't do anything bad is sufficient at these power levels.







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              • Thank you Sir ... i am thinking also on maybe listening to some radio channel and work on that for the moment ... In fact the real thing behind my question is that if i want to try something else on the future like changing the modulation, add a channel coding, i have to find a legal way to do it myself ... But again Thank you.
                – A.SDR
                3 hours ago










              • well, the path is pretty straightforward if you believe BNetzA's own documentation on the pages I've linked to above.
                – Marcus Müller
                3 hours ago
















              • Thank you Sir ... i am thinking also on maybe listening to some radio channel and work on that for the moment ... In fact the real thing behind my question is that if i want to try something else on the future like changing the modulation, add a channel coding, i have to find a legal way to do it myself ... But again Thank you.
                – A.SDR
                3 hours ago










              • well, the path is pretty straightforward if you believe BNetzA's own documentation on the pages I've linked to above.
                – Marcus Müller
                3 hours ago















              Thank you Sir ... i am thinking also on maybe listening to some radio channel and work on that for the moment ... In fact the real thing behind my question is that if i want to try something else on the future like changing the modulation, add a channel coding, i have to find a legal way to do it myself ... But again Thank you.
              – A.SDR
              3 hours ago




              Thank you Sir ... i am thinking also on maybe listening to some radio channel and work on that for the moment ... In fact the real thing behind my question is that if i want to try something else on the future like changing the modulation, add a channel coding, i have to find a legal way to do it myself ... But again Thank you.
              – A.SDR
              3 hours ago












              well, the path is pretty straightforward if you believe BNetzA's own documentation on the pages I've linked to above.
              – Marcus Müller
              3 hours ago




              well, the path is pretty straightforward if you believe BNetzA's own documentation on the pages I've linked to above.
              – Marcus Müller
              3 hours ago










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              As for other legal alternatives, one might be transmitting inside a suitably shielded Faraday cage. I’ve seen such facilities at labs where various prototype and pre-production (and competitors?) electronics systems were being tested to measure how far out-of legal compliance they were.






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                As for other legal alternatives, one might be transmitting inside a suitably shielded Faraday cage. I’ve seen such facilities at labs where various prototype and pre-production (and competitors?) electronics systems were being tested to measure how far out-of legal compliance they were.






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                  As for other legal alternatives, one might be transmitting inside a suitably shielded Faraday cage. I’ve seen such facilities at labs where various prototype and pre-production (and competitors?) electronics systems were being tested to measure how far out-of legal compliance they were.






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                  As for other legal alternatives, one might be transmitting inside a suitably shielded Faraday cage. I’ve seen such facilities at labs where various prototype and pre-production (and competitors?) electronics systems were being tested to measure how far out-of legal compliance they were.







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                      Do you have to actually transmit, or can you make do with a cable, some attenuators, and perhaps a noise source?



                      It won't behave like a real RF channel, but maybe that won't matter.






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                        Do you have to actually transmit, or can you make do with a cable, some attenuators, and perhaps a noise source?



                        It won't behave like a real RF channel, but maybe that won't matter.






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                          Do you have to actually transmit, or can you make do with a cable, some attenuators, and perhaps a noise source?



                          It won't behave like a real RF channel, but maybe that won't matter.






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                          Do you have to actually transmit, or can you make do with a cable, some attenuators, and perhaps a noise source?



                          It won't behave like a real RF channel, but maybe that won't matter.







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