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Can targets see through Disguise Self/Seeming if they beat the investigation check?
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Given the consensus from my previous question, it appears that all Illusions conjured from this spell and Seeming can be seen through by the user, but not by outside viewers.
The two spells Disguise Self and Seeming both differ from traditional Illusion spells in that they contain no clause that causes the Illusions to "fade" or "become transparent".
Instead, successful Investigation checks allow viewers to "discern" and "become aware" that the target is disguised.
Can viewers beating the check literally see through the disguise? If a Half-Elf disguises their race to look like a Drow, does the viewer know their true race if their check beats the disguise, RAW?
dnd-5e spells rules-as-written illusion
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Given the consensus from my previous question, it appears that all Illusions conjured from this spell and Seeming can be seen through by the user, but not by outside viewers.
The two spells Disguise Self and Seeming both differ from traditional Illusion spells in that they contain no clause that causes the Illusions to "fade" or "become transparent".
Instead, successful Investigation checks allow viewers to "discern" and "become aware" that the target is disguised.
Can viewers beating the check literally see through the disguise? If a Half-Elf disguises their race to look like a Drow, does the viewer know their true race if their check beats the disguise, RAW?
dnd-5e spells rules-as-written illusion
asked 1 hour ago
Nicbobo
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I'm not sure that your previous question that only has one answer with 4 upvotes and 3 downvotes is a good example of consensus.
– NautArch
1 hour ago
Agreed - it could be worded differently. I wanted to acknowledge the similarities in the questions.
– Nicbobo
30 mins ago
It might be best just to remove that and just give a related link to it in the comments.
– NautArch
26 mins ago
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up vote
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Given the consensus from my previous question, it appears that all Illusions conjured from this spell and Seeming can be seen through by the user, but not by outside viewers.
The two spells Disguise Self and Seeming both differ from traditional Illusion spells in that they contain no clause that causes the Illusions to "fade" or "become transparent".
Instead, successful Investigation checks allow viewers to "discern" and "become aware" that the target is disguised.
Can viewers beating the check literally see through the disguise? If a Half-Elf disguises their race to look like a Drow, does the viewer know their true race if their check beats the disguise, RAW?
dnd-5e spells rules-as-written illusion
asked 1 hour ago
Nicbobo
936226
Given the consensus from my previous question, it appears that all Illusions conjured from this spell and Seeming can be seen through by the user, but not by outside viewers.
The two spells Disguise Self and Seeming both differ from traditional Illusion spells in that they contain no clause that causes the Illusions to "fade" or "become transparent".
Instead, successful Investigation checks allow viewers to "discern" and "become aware" that the target is disguised.
Can viewers beating the check literally see through the disguise? If a Half-Elf disguises their race to look like a Drow, does the viewer know their true race if their check beats the disguise, RAW?
dnd-5e spells rules-as-written illusion
dnd-5e spells rules-as-written illusion
asked 1 hour ago
Nicbobo
936226
asked 1 hour ago
Nicbobo
936226
asked 1 hour ago
Nicbobo
936226
asked 1 hour ago
Nicbobo
936226
asked 1 hour ago
Nicbobo
936226
936226
4
I'm not sure that your previous question that only has one answer with 4 upvotes and 3 downvotes is a good example of consensus.
– NautArch
1 hour ago
Agreed - it could be worded differently. I wanted to acknowledge the similarities in the questions.
– Nicbobo
30 mins ago
It might be best just to remove that and just give a related link to it in the comments.
– NautArch
26 mins ago
add a comment |Â
4
I'm not sure that your previous question that only has one answer with 4 upvotes and 3 downvotes is a good example of consensus.
– NautArch
1 hour ago
Agreed - it could be worded differently. I wanted to acknowledge the similarities in the questions.
– Nicbobo
30 mins ago
It might be best just to remove that and just give a related link to it in the comments.
– NautArch
26 mins ago
4
4
I'm not sure that your previous question that only has one answer with 4 upvotes and 3 downvotes is a good example of consensus.
– NautArch
1 hour ago
I'm not sure that your previous question that only has one answer with 4 upvotes and 3 downvotes is a good example of consensus.
– NautArch
1 hour ago
Agreed - it could be worded differently. I wanted to acknowledge the similarities in the questions.
– Nicbobo
30 mins ago
Agreed - it could be worded differently. I wanted to acknowledge the similarities in the questions.
– Nicbobo
30 mins ago
It might be best just to remove that and just give a related link to it in the comments.
– NautArch
26 mins ago
It might be best just to remove that and just give a related link to it in the comments.
– NautArch
26 mins ago
add a comment |Â
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Spells do exactly what they say:
Disguise self reads:
To discern that you are disguised, a creature can use its action to inspect your appearance and must succeed on an Intelligence (Investigation) check against your spell save DC.
Seeming Says:
If it succeeds, it becomes aware that the target is disguised.
Both imply the success mean they know you are disguised, not necessarily what you look like under the illusion. The DM can rule what that means for your table.
answered 1 hour ago
J. A. Streich
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1 Answer
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1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
7
down vote
Spells do exactly what they say:
Disguise self reads:
To discern that you are disguised, a creature can use its action to inspect your appearance and must succeed on an Intelligence (Investigation) check against your spell save DC.
Seeming Says:
If it succeeds, it becomes aware that the target is disguised.
Both imply the success mean they know you are disguised, not necessarily what you look like under the illusion. The DM can rule what that means for your table.
answered 1 hour ago
J. A. Streich
22.6k165120
add a comment |Â
up vote
7
down vote
Spells do exactly what they say:
Disguise self reads:
To discern that you are disguised, a creature can use its action to inspect your appearance and must succeed on an Intelligence (Investigation) check against your spell save DC.
Seeming Says:
If it succeeds, it becomes aware that the target is disguised.
Both imply the success mean they know you are disguised, not necessarily what you look like under the illusion. The DM can rule what that means for your table.
answered 1 hour ago
J. A. Streich
22.6k165120
add a comment |Â
up vote
7
down vote
up vote
7
down vote
Spells do exactly what they say:
Disguise self reads:
To discern that you are disguised, a creature can use its action to inspect your appearance and must succeed on an Intelligence (Investigation) check against your spell save DC.
Seeming Says:
If it succeeds, it becomes aware that the target is disguised.
Both imply the success mean they know you are disguised, not necessarily what you look like under the illusion. The DM can rule what that means for your table.
answered 1 hour ago
J. A. Streich
22.6k165120
Spells do exactly what they say:
Disguise self reads:
To discern that you are disguised, a creature can use its action to inspect your appearance and must succeed on an Intelligence (Investigation) check against your spell save DC.
Seeming Says:
If it succeeds, it becomes aware that the target is disguised.
Both imply the success mean they know you are disguised, not necessarily what you look like under the illusion. The DM can rule what that means for your table.
answered 1 hour ago
J. A. Streich
22.6k165120
answered 1 hour ago
J. A. Streich
22.6k165120
answered 1 hour ago
J. A. Streich
22.6k165120
answered 1 hour ago
J. A. Streich
22.6k165120
22.6k165120
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I'm not sure that your previous question that only has one answer with 4 upvotes and 3 downvotes is a good example of consensus.
– NautArch
1 hour ago
Agreed - it could be worded differently. I wanted to acknowledge the similarities in the questions.
– Nicbobo
30 mins ago
It might be best just to remove that and just give a related link to it in the comments.
– NautArch
26 mins ago