Is Banishment effectively immune to Dispel Magic?

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Suppose my ally has been hit with a banishment spell and sent to another plane. I would like to bring them back by casting dispel magic to end the banishment spell. However, I immediately run into a problem: I need to "choose one creature, object, or magical effect within range" that is affected by the spell, and it's not clear whether I can do that. I can't target my ally directly because they are on another plane. Is there still a "magical effect" within range that I can target (perhaps some sort of "anchor" that marks where the creature will return to when the spell ends), or is it impossible to dispel the banishment because the only affected target is on another plane?



(Note: The question title says "effectively immune" because clearly banishment is not literally impossible to dispel. If I could get to the plane where the target was banished to, I could dispel the spell, but that is unlikely to be practical.)






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Suppose my ally has been hit with a banishment spell and sent to another plane. I would like to bring them back by casting dispel magic to end the banishment spell. However, I immediately run into a problem: I need to "choose one creature, object, or magical effect within range" that is affected by the spell, and it's not clear whether I can do that. I can't target my ally directly because they are on another plane. Is there still a "magical effect" within range that I can target (perhaps some sort of "anchor" that marks where the creature will return to when the spell ends), or is it impossible to dispel the banishment because the only affected target is on another plane?



(Note: The question title says "effectively immune" because clearly banishment is not literally impossible to dispel. If I could get to the plane where the target was banished to, I could dispel the spell, but that is unlikely to be practical.)






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Suppose my ally has been hit with a banishment spell and sent to another plane. I would like to bring them back by casting dispel magic to end the banishment spell. However, I immediately run into a problem: I need to "choose one creature, object, or magical effect within range" that is affected by the spell, and it's not clear whether I can do that. I can't target my ally directly because they are on another plane. Is there still a "magical effect" within range that I can target (perhaps some sort of "anchor" that marks where the creature will return to when the spell ends), or is it impossible to dispel the banishment because the only affected target is on another plane?



(Note: The question title says "effectively immune" because clearly banishment is not literally impossible to dispel. If I could get to the plane where the target was banished to, I could dispel the spell, but that is unlikely to be practical.)






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Suppose my ally has been hit with a banishment spell and sent to another plane. I would like to bring them back by casting dispel magic to end the banishment spell. However, I immediately run into a problem: I need to "choose one creature, object, or magical effect within range" that is affected by the spell, and it's not clear whether I can do that. I can't target my ally directly because they are on another plane. Is there still a "magical effect" within range that I can target (perhaps some sort of "anchor" that marks where the creature will return to when the spell ends), or is it impossible to dispel the banishment because the only affected target is on another plane?



(Note: The question title says "effectively immune" because clearly banishment is not literally impossible to dispel. If I could get to the plane where the target was banished to, I could dispel the spell, but that is unlikely to be practical.)






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  • Related: Can you dispel a magic effect you can't perceive? and How exactly does Dispel Magic work against magical effects?
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  • Related: Can you dispel a magic effect you can't perceive? and How exactly does Dispel Magic work against magical effects?
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    34 mins ago















Related: Can you dispel a magic effect you can't perceive? and How exactly does Dispel Magic work against magical effects?
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Related: Can you dispel a magic effect you can't perceive? and How exactly does Dispel Magic work against magical effects?
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According to Jeremy Crawford:




Dispel magic is cast on a creature, an object, or another phenomenon
that is under the effect of a spell. You don't cast it on that spell's
caster. To dispel a spell like banishment, you'd have to somehow cast
dispel magic on the banished target.




Of course, since Banishment is a concentration spell, there are options that you could take to attempt to end the spell if you are on the same plane as the spellcaster but not as the target (like casting Magic Missile at the person concentrating on it). And like you said, if you could somehow end up on the same plane as the banished creature, you could dispel the Banishment spell there. But yes, specifically the Dispel Magic spell wouldn't work unless cast upon the target of the Banishment spell.






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    Your Interpretation is Correct



    According to Jeremy Crawford:




    Dispel magic is cast on a creature, an object, or another phenomenon
    that is under the effect of a spell. You don't cast it on that spell's
    caster. To dispel a spell like banishment, you'd have to somehow cast
    dispel magic on the banished target.




    Of course, since Banishment is a concentration spell, there are options that you could take to attempt to end the spell if you are on the same plane as the spellcaster but not as the target (like casting Magic Missile at the person concentrating on it). And like you said, if you could somehow end up on the same plane as the banished creature, you could dispel the Banishment spell there. But yes, specifically the Dispel Magic spell wouldn't work unless cast upon the target of the Banishment spell.






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      Your Interpretation is Correct



      According to Jeremy Crawford:




      Dispel magic is cast on a creature, an object, or another phenomenon
      that is under the effect of a spell. You don't cast it on that spell's
      caster. To dispel a spell like banishment, you'd have to somehow cast
      dispel magic on the banished target.




      Of course, since Banishment is a concentration spell, there are options that you could take to attempt to end the spell if you are on the same plane as the spellcaster but not as the target (like casting Magic Missile at the person concentrating on it). And like you said, if you could somehow end up on the same plane as the banished creature, you could dispel the Banishment spell there. But yes, specifically the Dispel Magic spell wouldn't work unless cast upon the target of the Banishment spell.






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        Your Interpretation is Correct



        According to Jeremy Crawford:




        Dispel magic is cast on a creature, an object, or another phenomenon
        that is under the effect of a spell. You don't cast it on that spell's
        caster. To dispel a spell like banishment, you'd have to somehow cast
        dispel magic on the banished target.




        Of course, since Banishment is a concentration spell, there are options that you could take to attempt to end the spell if you are on the same plane as the spellcaster but not as the target (like casting Magic Missile at the person concentrating on it). And like you said, if you could somehow end up on the same plane as the banished creature, you could dispel the Banishment spell there. But yes, specifically the Dispel Magic spell wouldn't work unless cast upon the target of the Banishment spell.






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        Your Interpretation is Correct



        According to Jeremy Crawford:




        Dispel magic is cast on a creature, an object, or another phenomenon
        that is under the effect of a spell. You don't cast it on that spell's
        caster. To dispel a spell like banishment, you'd have to somehow cast
        dispel magic on the banished target.




        Of course, since Banishment is a concentration spell, there are options that you could take to attempt to end the spell if you are on the same plane as the spellcaster but not as the target (like casting Magic Missile at the person concentrating on it). And like you said, if you could somehow end up on the same plane as the banished creature, you could dispel the Banishment spell there. But yes, specifically the Dispel Magic spell wouldn't work unless cast upon the target of the Banishment spell.







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