Volume after transformation.
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Consider $$ Omega: (x, y, z): x^2+y^2leq 1, 0leq zleq 2 $$ and the transform $$ T:(x, y, z)to(x, y+tan(alpha z), z) ,$$ where $ alphain (0, pi) $. What is the volume of $ T(Omega) $?
My attempt: I am trying to convert to the cylindrical coordinate system, but I can't find the region where I should integrate since it is transformed.
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Consider $$ Omega: (x, y, z): x^2+y^2leq 1, 0leq zleq 2 $$ and the transform $$ T:(x, y, z)to(x, y+tan(alpha z), z) ,$$ where $ alphain (0, pi) $. What is the volume of $ T(Omega) $?
My attempt: I am trying to convert to the cylindrical coordinate system, but I can't find the region where I should integrate since it is transformed.
calculus integration multivariable-calculus
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Consider $$ Omega: (x, y, z): x^2+y^2leq 1, 0leq zleq 2 $$ and the transform $$ T:(x, y, z)to(x, y+tan(alpha z), z) ,$$ where $ alphain (0, pi) $. What is the volume of $ T(Omega) $?
My attempt: I am trying to convert to the cylindrical coordinate system, but I can't find the region where I should integrate since it is transformed.
calculus integration multivariable-calculus
Consider $$ Omega: (x, y, z): x^2+y^2leq 1, 0leq zleq 2 $$ and the transform $$ T:(x, y, z)to(x, y+tan(alpha z), z) ,$$ where $ alphain (0, pi) $. What is the volume of $ T(Omega) $?
My attempt: I am trying to convert to the cylindrical coordinate system, but I can't find the region where I should integrate since it is transformed.
calculus integration multivariable-calculus
calculus integration multivariable-calculus
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Fix $z_0 in [0,2]$, and look at the section $Omega_z_0 = Omega cap z = z_0$. This section is mapped to
$$
T(Omega_z_0) = (x,y,z_0) : x^2 + (y - tan(alpha z_0))^2 leq 1
$$
which is a unit circle in the plane $z = z_0$, centered at $(0, tan (alpha z_0))$. Hence, by the Cavalieri Principle, $T(Omega)$ has the same volume as $Omega$.
Hi! Thank you for your nice answer! Could you revise the post? Since it is $ tan (alpha z_0) $ not $ z_0tanalpha $, I don't know why user 'amWhy' kept rejecting my attempt to revise your post.
â Yuchen
1 hour ago
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Edited. The proof works in the same way, the discontinuty does not cause problems because a single plane has zero volume.
â Hugo
1 hour ago
Yup, I see. Thanks again!
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Since the Jacobian for the transformation is
$$|J|=beginvmatrix1&0&0\0&1&0\0&fracalphacosalpha z&1endvmatrix=1$$
for $alphaneq fracpi2$ we have have that
$$V_T(Omega)=V_Omega=2pi$$
1
The Jacobian is 1 means that the volume is preserved (multiplied by 1) when you perform the transformation (it's just a fancy nonlinear shearing of slices perpendicular to z, in the y direction). So the volume can be calculated in the original coordinates, where it's just a cylinder. No integration needed.
â orion
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@orion Yes of course, I clarify that!
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2 Answers
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
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active
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up vote
2
down vote
accepted
Fix $z_0 in [0,2]$, and look at the section $Omega_z_0 = Omega cap z = z_0$. This section is mapped to
$$
T(Omega_z_0) = (x,y,z_0) : x^2 + (y - tan(alpha z_0))^2 leq 1
$$
which is a unit circle in the plane $z = z_0$, centered at $(0, tan (alpha z_0))$. Hence, by the Cavalieri Principle, $T(Omega)$ has the same volume as $Omega$.
Hi! Thank you for your nice answer! Could you revise the post? Since it is $ tan (alpha z_0) $ not $ z_0tanalpha $, I don't know why user 'amWhy' kept rejecting my attempt to revise your post.
â Yuchen
1 hour ago
1
Edited. The proof works in the same way, the discontinuty does not cause problems because a single plane has zero volume.
â Hugo
1 hour ago
Yup, I see. Thanks again!
â Yuchen
1 hour ago
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up vote
2
down vote
accepted
Fix $z_0 in [0,2]$, and look at the section $Omega_z_0 = Omega cap z = z_0$. This section is mapped to
$$
T(Omega_z_0) = (x,y,z_0) : x^2 + (y - tan(alpha z_0))^2 leq 1
$$
which is a unit circle in the plane $z = z_0$, centered at $(0, tan (alpha z_0))$. Hence, by the Cavalieri Principle, $T(Omega)$ has the same volume as $Omega$.
Hi! Thank you for your nice answer! Could you revise the post? Since it is $ tan (alpha z_0) $ not $ z_0tanalpha $, I don't know why user 'amWhy' kept rejecting my attempt to revise your post.
â Yuchen
1 hour ago
1
Edited. The proof works in the same way, the discontinuty does not cause problems because a single plane has zero volume.
â Hugo
1 hour ago
Yup, I see. Thanks again!
â Yuchen
1 hour ago
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up vote
2
down vote
accepted
up vote
2
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accepted
Fix $z_0 in [0,2]$, and look at the section $Omega_z_0 = Omega cap z = z_0$. This section is mapped to
$$
T(Omega_z_0) = (x,y,z_0) : x^2 + (y - tan(alpha z_0))^2 leq 1
$$
which is a unit circle in the plane $z = z_0$, centered at $(0, tan (alpha z_0))$. Hence, by the Cavalieri Principle, $T(Omega)$ has the same volume as $Omega$.
Fix $z_0 in [0,2]$, and look at the section $Omega_z_0 = Omega cap z = z_0$. This section is mapped to
$$
T(Omega_z_0) = (x,y,z_0) : x^2 + (y - tan(alpha z_0))^2 leq 1
$$
which is a unit circle in the plane $z = z_0$, centered at $(0, tan (alpha z_0))$. Hence, by the Cavalieri Principle, $T(Omega)$ has the same volume as $Omega$.
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Hugo
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Hi! Thank you for your nice answer! Could you revise the post? Since it is $ tan (alpha z_0) $ not $ z_0tanalpha $, I don't know why user 'amWhy' kept rejecting my attempt to revise your post.
â Yuchen
1 hour ago
1
Edited. The proof works in the same way, the discontinuty does not cause problems because a single plane has zero volume.
â Hugo
1 hour ago
Yup, I see. Thanks again!
â Yuchen
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
Hi! Thank you for your nice answer! Could you revise the post? Since it is $ tan (alpha z_0) $ not $ z_0tanalpha $, I don't know why user 'amWhy' kept rejecting my attempt to revise your post.
â Yuchen
1 hour ago
1
Edited. The proof works in the same way, the discontinuty does not cause problems because a single plane has zero volume.
â Hugo
1 hour ago
Yup, I see. Thanks again!
â Yuchen
1 hour ago
Hi! Thank you for your nice answer! Could you revise the post? Since it is $ tan (alpha z_0) $ not $ z_0tanalpha $, I don't know why user 'amWhy' kept rejecting my attempt to revise your post.
â Yuchen
1 hour ago
Hi! Thank you for your nice answer! Could you revise the post? Since it is $ tan (alpha z_0) $ not $ z_0tanalpha $, I don't know why user 'amWhy' kept rejecting my attempt to revise your post.
â Yuchen
1 hour ago
1
1
Edited. The proof works in the same way, the discontinuty does not cause problems because a single plane has zero volume.
â Hugo
1 hour ago
Edited. The proof works in the same way, the discontinuty does not cause problems because a single plane has zero volume.
â Hugo
1 hour ago
Yup, I see. Thanks again!
â Yuchen
1 hour ago
Yup, I see. Thanks again!
â Yuchen
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
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Since the Jacobian for the transformation is
$$|J|=beginvmatrix1&0&0\0&1&0\0&fracalphacosalpha z&1endvmatrix=1$$
for $alphaneq fracpi2$ we have have that
$$V_T(Omega)=V_Omega=2pi$$
1
The Jacobian is 1 means that the volume is preserved (multiplied by 1) when you perform the transformation (it's just a fancy nonlinear shearing of slices perpendicular to z, in the y direction). So the volume can be calculated in the original coordinates, where it's just a cylinder. No integration needed.
â orion
1 hour ago
@orion Yes of course, I clarify that!
â gimusi
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
Since the Jacobian for the transformation is
$$|J|=beginvmatrix1&0&0\0&1&0\0&fracalphacosalpha z&1endvmatrix=1$$
for $alphaneq fracpi2$ we have have that
$$V_T(Omega)=V_Omega=2pi$$
1
The Jacobian is 1 means that the volume is preserved (multiplied by 1) when you perform the transformation (it's just a fancy nonlinear shearing of slices perpendicular to z, in the y direction). So the volume can be calculated in the original coordinates, where it's just a cylinder. No integration needed.
â orion
1 hour ago
@orion Yes of course, I clarify that!
â gimusi
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
up vote
4
down vote
Since the Jacobian for the transformation is
$$|J|=beginvmatrix1&0&0\0&1&0\0&fracalphacosalpha z&1endvmatrix=1$$
for $alphaneq fracpi2$ we have have that
$$V_T(Omega)=V_Omega=2pi$$
Since the Jacobian for the transformation is
$$|J|=beginvmatrix1&0&0\0&1&0\0&fracalphacosalpha z&1endvmatrix=1$$
for $alphaneq fracpi2$ we have have that
$$V_T(Omega)=V_Omega=2pi$$
edited 1 hour ago
answered 2 hours ago
gimusi
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1
The Jacobian is 1 means that the volume is preserved (multiplied by 1) when you perform the transformation (it's just a fancy nonlinear shearing of slices perpendicular to z, in the y direction). So the volume can be calculated in the original coordinates, where it's just a cylinder. No integration needed.
â orion
1 hour ago
@orion Yes of course, I clarify that!
â gimusi
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
1
The Jacobian is 1 means that the volume is preserved (multiplied by 1) when you perform the transformation (it's just a fancy nonlinear shearing of slices perpendicular to z, in the y direction). So the volume can be calculated in the original coordinates, where it's just a cylinder. No integration needed.
â orion
1 hour ago
@orion Yes of course, I clarify that!
â gimusi
1 hour ago
1
1
The Jacobian is 1 means that the volume is preserved (multiplied by 1) when you perform the transformation (it's just a fancy nonlinear shearing of slices perpendicular to z, in the y direction). So the volume can be calculated in the original coordinates, where it's just a cylinder. No integration needed.
â orion
1 hour ago
The Jacobian is 1 means that the volume is preserved (multiplied by 1) when you perform the transformation (it's just a fancy nonlinear shearing of slices perpendicular to z, in the y direction). So the volume can be calculated in the original coordinates, where it's just a cylinder. No integration needed.
â orion
1 hour ago
@orion Yes of course, I clarify that!
â gimusi
1 hour ago
@orion Yes of course, I clarify that!
â gimusi
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
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