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Does a +1 shield allow me to add 3 to my Dex saves when using the second benefit of Shield Master?
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If I have a +1 shield and the Shield Master feat (PHB, p. 170), can I add 3 to my Dex saving throw when I use the second benefit of Shield Master?
If you aren’t incapacitated, you can add your shield’s AC bonus to any Dexterity saving throw you make against a spell or other harmful effect that targets only you.
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If I have a +1 shield and the Shield Master feat (PHB, p. 170), can I add 3 to my Dex saving throw when I use the second benefit of Shield Master?
If you aren’t incapacitated, you can add your shield’s AC bonus to any Dexterity saving throw you make against a spell or other harmful effect that targets only you.
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If I have a +1 shield and the Shield Master feat (PHB, p. 170), can I add 3 to my Dex saving throw when I use the second benefit of Shield Master?
If you aren’t incapacitated, you can add your shield’s AC bonus to any Dexterity saving throw you make against a spell or other harmful effect that targets only you.
dnd-5e magic-items feats
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If I have a +1 shield and the Shield Master feat (PHB, p. 170), can I add 3 to my Dex saving throw when I use the second benefit of Shield Master?
If you aren’t incapacitated, you can add your shield’s AC bonus to any Dexterity saving throw you make against a spell or other harmful effect that targets only you.
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dnd-5e magic-items feats
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Yes, it does
No distinction is made between the normal bonus to AC and the bonus as a result of the magic item. They are simply bonuses to AC. Since both are part of your "shield's AC bonus", they are both included.
Regular shield:
A shield is made from wood or metal and is carried in one hand. Wielding a shield increases your Armor Class by 2.ÂÂ
Shield +1:
While holding this shield, you have a +1 bonus to AC. This bonus is in addition to the shield's normal bonus to AC.
Notice that neither of these bonuses are made distinct by a title like "shield bonus". They are just bonuses to AC that come from the shield.
answered 49 mins ago
David Coffron
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I think the hangup is "You have +1 bonus to AC..." So is the shield's AC bonus +3? or +2 and an extra +1 that doesn't apply to the feat. Not saying I disagree.
– Jason_c_o
45 mins ago
@Jason_c_o Oh I got it now. Didn't realize where the confusion was coming frkm
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The +1 is part of the shield's AC bonus for this purpose
Unlike in previous editions of D&D, 5e has very simplified shield rules:
Wielding a shield increases your Armor Class by 2.
Naturally, some shields are special; the +1 shield mentioned increases your AC by 3 instead. However, if "special" shields that give different AC bonuses aren't intended to affect the benefit of Shield Master, then Shield Master could simply be worded as "add 2" rather than "add your shield's AC bonus". Since the wording of the feat implies that some shields give a different bonus, and magic shields are the most common reason I know of that a shield would give a different bonus, I conclude that the different bonus from a magic shield is intended to apply.
answered 36 mins ago
Kamil Drakari
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While this is a potential cause for thr wording, it neglects the possibility that they were simply trying to future proof the feat. In fact the Players Handbook wad release before the Dungeon Master's Guide introduced magic shields. A non-magic shield with a particular quality could grant a default +3 bonus in a later book, and the feat would not have to be updated. In this way, your argument isn't entirely complete as it doesn't justify the placement of the +1 AC as part of the bonus referenced by the feat.
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2 Answers
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up vote
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Yes, it does
No distinction is made between the normal bonus to AC and the bonus as a result of the magic item. They are simply bonuses to AC. Since both are part of your "shield's AC bonus", they are both included.
Regular shield:
A shield is made from wood or metal and is carried in one hand. Wielding a shield increases your Armor Class by 2.ÂÂ
Shield +1:
While holding this shield, you have a +1 bonus to AC. This bonus is in addition to the shield's normal bonus to AC.
Notice that neither of these bonuses are made distinct by a title like "shield bonus". They are just bonuses to AC that come from the shield.
answered 49 mins ago
David Coffron
26.3k290181
1
I think the hangup is "You have +1 bonus to AC..." So is the shield's AC bonus +3? or +2 and an extra +1 that doesn't apply to the feat. Not saying I disagree.
– Jason_c_o
45 mins ago
@Jason_c_o Oh I got it now. Didn't realize where the confusion was coming frkm
– David Coffron
38 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
Yes, it does
No distinction is made between the normal bonus to AC and the bonus as a result of the magic item. They are simply bonuses to AC. Since both are part of your "shield's AC bonus", they are both included.
Regular shield:
A shield is made from wood or metal and is carried in one hand. Wielding a shield increases your Armor Class by 2.ÂÂ
Shield +1:
While holding this shield, you have a +1 bonus to AC. This bonus is in addition to the shield's normal bonus to AC.
Notice that neither of these bonuses are made distinct by a title like "shield bonus". They are just bonuses to AC that come from the shield.
answered 49 mins ago
David Coffron
26.3k290181
1
I think the hangup is "You have +1 bonus to AC..." So is the shield's AC bonus +3? or +2 and an extra +1 that doesn't apply to the feat. Not saying I disagree.
– Jason_c_o
45 mins ago
@Jason_c_o Oh I got it now. Didn't realize where the confusion was coming frkm
– David Coffron
38 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
up vote
4
down vote
Yes, it does
No distinction is made between the normal bonus to AC and the bonus as a result of the magic item. They are simply bonuses to AC. Since both are part of your "shield's AC bonus", they are both included.
Regular shield:
A shield is made from wood or metal and is carried in one hand. Wielding a shield increases your Armor Class by 2.ÂÂ
Shield +1:
While holding this shield, you have a +1 bonus to AC. This bonus is in addition to the shield's normal bonus to AC.
Notice that neither of these bonuses are made distinct by a title like "shield bonus". They are just bonuses to AC that come from the shield.
answered 49 mins ago
David Coffron
26.3k290181
Yes, it does
No distinction is made between the normal bonus to AC and the bonus as a result of the magic item. They are simply bonuses to AC. Since both are part of your "shield's AC bonus", they are both included.
Regular shield:
A shield is made from wood or metal and is carried in one hand. Wielding a shield increases your Armor Class by 2.ÂÂ
Shield +1:
While holding this shield, you have a +1 bonus to AC. This bonus is in addition to the shield's normal bonus to AC.
Notice that neither of these bonuses are made distinct by a title like "shield bonus". They are just bonuses to AC that come from the shield.
answered 49 mins ago
David Coffron
26.3k290181
edited 34 mins ago
answered 49 mins ago
David Coffron
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answered 49 mins ago
David Coffron
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answered 49 mins ago
David Coffron
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26.3k290181
1
I think the hangup is "You have +1 bonus to AC..." So is the shield's AC bonus +3? or +2 and an extra +1 that doesn't apply to the feat. Not saying I disagree.
– Jason_c_o
45 mins ago
@Jason_c_o Oh I got it now. Didn't realize where the confusion was coming frkm
– David Coffron
38 mins ago
add a comment |Â
1
I think the hangup is "You have +1 bonus to AC..." So is the shield's AC bonus +3? or +2 and an extra +1 that doesn't apply to the feat. Not saying I disagree.
– Jason_c_o
45 mins ago
@Jason_c_o Oh I got it now. Didn't realize where the confusion was coming frkm
– David Coffron
38 mins ago
1
1
I think the hangup is "You have +1 bonus to AC..." So is the shield's AC bonus +3? or +2 and an extra +1 that doesn't apply to the feat. Not saying I disagree.
– Jason_c_o
45 mins ago
I think the hangup is "You have +1 bonus to AC..." So is the shield's AC bonus +3? or +2 and an extra +1 that doesn't apply to the feat. Not saying I disagree.
– Jason_c_o
45 mins ago
@Jason_c_o Oh I got it now. Didn't realize where the confusion was coming frkm
– David Coffron
38 mins ago
@Jason_c_o Oh I got it now. Didn't realize where the confusion was coming frkm
– David Coffron
38 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
The +1 is part of the shield's AC bonus for this purpose
Unlike in previous editions of D&D, 5e has very simplified shield rules:
Wielding a shield increases your Armor Class by 2.
Naturally, some shields are special; the +1 shield mentioned increases your AC by 3 instead. However, if "special" shields that give different AC bonuses aren't intended to affect the benefit of Shield Master, then Shield Master could simply be worded as "add 2" rather than "add your shield's AC bonus". Since the wording of the feat implies that some shields give a different bonus, and magic shields are the most common reason I know of that a shield would give a different bonus, I conclude that the different bonus from a magic shield is intended to apply.
answered 36 mins ago
Kamil Drakari
1,930527
While this is a potential cause for thr wording, it neglects the possibility that they were simply trying to future proof the feat. In fact the Players Handbook wad release before the Dungeon Master's Guide introduced magic shields. A non-magic shield with a particular quality could grant a default +3 bonus in a later book, and the feat would not have to be updated. In this way, your argument isn't entirely complete as it doesn't justify the placement of the +1 AC as part of the bonus referenced by the feat.
– David Coffron
30 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
The +1 is part of the shield's AC bonus for this purpose
Unlike in previous editions of D&D, 5e has very simplified shield rules:
Wielding a shield increases your Armor Class by 2.
Naturally, some shields are special; the +1 shield mentioned increases your AC by 3 instead. However, if "special" shields that give different AC bonuses aren't intended to affect the benefit of Shield Master, then Shield Master could simply be worded as "add 2" rather than "add your shield's AC bonus". Since the wording of the feat implies that some shields give a different bonus, and magic shields are the most common reason I know of that a shield would give a different bonus, I conclude that the different bonus from a magic shield is intended to apply.
answered 36 mins ago
Kamil Drakari
1,930527
While this is a potential cause for thr wording, it neglects the possibility that they were simply trying to future proof the feat. In fact the Players Handbook wad release before the Dungeon Master's Guide introduced magic shields. A non-magic shield with a particular quality could grant a default +3 bonus in a later book, and the feat would not have to be updated. In this way, your argument isn't entirely complete as it doesn't justify the placement of the +1 AC as part of the bonus referenced by the feat.
– David Coffron
30 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
The +1 is part of the shield's AC bonus for this purpose
Unlike in previous editions of D&D, 5e has very simplified shield rules:
Wielding a shield increases your Armor Class by 2.
Naturally, some shields are special; the +1 shield mentioned increases your AC by 3 instead. However, if "special" shields that give different AC bonuses aren't intended to affect the benefit of Shield Master, then Shield Master could simply be worded as "add 2" rather than "add your shield's AC bonus". Since the wording of the feat implies that some shields give a different bonus, and magic shields are the most common reason I know of that a shield would give a different bonus, I conclude that the different bonus from a magic shield is intended to apply.
answered 36 mins ago
Kamil Drakari
1,930527
The +1 is part of the shield's AC bonus for this purpose
Unlike in previous editions of D&D, 5e has very simplified shield rules:
Wielding a shield increases your Armor Class by 2.
Naturally, some shields are special; the +1 shield mentioned increases your AC by 3 instead. However, if "special" shields that give different AC bonuses aren't intended to affect the benefit of Shield Master, then Shield Master could simply be worded as "add 2" rather than "add your shield's AC bonus". Since the wording of the feat implies that some shields give a different bonus, and magic shields are the most common reason I know of that a shield would give a different bonus, I conclude that the different bonus from a magic shield is intended to apply.
answered 36 mins ago
Kamil Drakari
1,930527
answered 36 mins ago
Kamil Drakari
1,930527
answered 36 mins ago
Kamil Drakari
1,930527
answered 36 mins ago
Kamil Drakari
1,930527
1,930527
While this is a potential cause for thr wording, it neglects the possibility that they were simply trying to future proof the feat. In fact the Players Handbook wad release before the Dungeon Master's Guide introduced magic shields. A non-magic shield with a particular quality could grant a default +3 bonus in a later book, and the feat would not have to be updated. In this way, your argument isn't entirely complete as it doesn't justify the placement of the +1 AC as part of the bonus referenced by the feat.
– David Coffron
30 mins ago
add a comment |Â
While this is a potential cause for thr wording, it neglects the possibility that they were simply trying to future proof the feat. In fact the Players Handbook wad release before the Dungeon Master's Guide introduced magic shields. A non-magic shield with a particular quality could grant a default +3 bonus in a later book, and the feat would not have to be updated. In this way, your argument isn't entirely complete as it doesn't justify the placement of the +1 AC as part of the bonus referenced by the feat.
– David Coffron
30 mins ago
While this is a potential cause for thr wording, it neglects the possibility that they were simply trying to future proof the feat. In fact the Players Handbook wad release before the Dungeon Master's Guide introduced magic shields. A non-magic shield with a particular quality could grant a default +3 bonus in a later book, and the feat would not have to be updated. In this way, your argument isn't entirely complete as it doesn't justify the placement of the +1 AC as part of the bonus referenced by the feat.
– David Coffron
30 mins ago
While this is a potential cause for thr wording, it neglects the possibility that they were simply trying to future proof the feat. In fact the Players Handbook wad release before the Dungeon Master's Guide introduced magic shields. A non-magic shield with a particular quality could grant a default +3 bonus in a later book, and the feat would not have to be updated. In this way, your argument isn't entirely complete as it doesn't justify the placement of the +1 AC as part of the bonus referenced by the feat.
– David Coffron
30 mins ago
add a comment |Â
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