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I'm asking some advice for my mother.
She was hired around 2 years ago for a team leader and customer-facing role. She wanted to be employed full time, but the company did not want to pay for this. They hired her for 30 hours a week.
The work she has to do is too much for this time period. Most of her hours are booked into seeing clients and there is no time for her managerial role. For the entirety of the past 2 years she has worked 7 hours overtime a week.
Clearly it would have been better to hire her full time...
Her manager is very down on overtime and has recently been on a course which instructed her to stop all overtime.
This obviously isn't ideal:
- Lower income
- Not enough time to do her job
- She sees it as devaluing her work
Obviously there's no legal requirement for the company to not be short-sighted but is there precedent regarding overtime that should have been contractual to start with? The job demonstrably requires more hours than given.
I also read somewhere that additional holiday should have been calculated on her overtime. This was not the case. Is there anything she can do about this?
How should she handle not being able to perform all aspects of her job within the allotted time?
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I'm asking some advice for my mother.
She was hired around 2 years ago for a team leader and customer-facing role. She wanted to be employed full time, but the company did not want to pay for this. They hired her for 30 hours a week.
The work she has to do is too much for this time period. Most of her hours are booked into seeing clients and there is no time for her managerial role. For the entirety of the past 2 years she has worked 7 hours overtime a week.
Clearly it would have been better to hire her full time...
Her manager is very down on overtime and has recently been on a course which instructed her to stop all overtime.
This obviously isn't ideal:
- Lower income
- Not enough time to do her job
- She sees it as devaluing her work
Obviously there's no legal requirement for the company to not be short-sighted but is there precedent regarding overtime that should have been contractual to start with? The job demonstrably requires more hours than given.
I also read somewhere that additional holiday should have been calculated on her overtime. This was not the case. Is there anything she can do about this?
How should she handle not being able to perform all aspects of her job within the allotted time?
united-kingdom manager time-management overtime
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I'm asking some advice for my mother.
She was hired around 2 years ago for a team leader and customer-facing role. She wanted to be employed full time, but the company did not want to pay for this. They hired her for 30 hours a week.
The work she has to do is too much for this time period. Most of her hours are booked into seeing clients and there is no time for her managerial role. For the entirety of the past 2 years she has worked 7 hours overtime a week.
Clearly it would have been better to hire her full time...
Her manager is very down on overtime and has recently been on a course which instructed her to stop all overtime.
This obviously isn't ideal:
- Lower income
- Not enough time to do her job
- She sees it as devaluing her work
Obviously there's no legal requirement for the company to not be short-sighted but is there precedent regarding overtime that should have been contractual to start with? The job demonstrably requires more hours than given.
I also read somewhere that additional holiday should have been calculated on her overtime. This was not the case. Is there anything she can do about this?
How should she handle not being able to perform all aspects of her job within the allotted time?
united-kingdom manager time-management overtime
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DarkCygnus
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I'm asking some advice for my mother.
She was hired around 2 years ago for a team leader and customer-facing role. She wanted to be employed full time, but the company did not want to pay for this. They hired her for 30 hours a week.
The work she has to do is too much for this time period. Most of her hours are booked into seeing clients and there is no time for her managerial role. For the entirety of the past 2 years she has worked 7 hours overtime a week.
Clearly it would have been better to hire her full time...
Her manager is very down on overtime and has recently been on a course which instructed her to stop all overtime.
This obviously isn't ideal:
- Lower income
- Not enough time to do her job
- She sees it as devaluing her work
Obviously there's no legal requirement for the company to not be short-sighted but is there precedent regarding overtime that should have been contractual to start with? The job demonstrably requires more hours than given.
I also read somewhere that additional holiday should have been calculated on her overtime. This was not the case. Is there anything she can do about this?
How should she handle not being able to perform all aspects of her job within the allotted time?
united-kingdom manager time-management overtime
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sounds pennywise and pound foolish.
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sounds pennywise and pound foolish.
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sounds pennywise and pound foolish.
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sounds pennywise and pound foolish.
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If she thinks that she can't get all the work done in those hours, and she feels all the work is important, then she should go to her boss and work out priorities for the work: what work is most important, and what work may not get done with less hours.
Hi boss. Since I won't be able to get all my tasks done without overtime, what tasks are less important? I'll try to get them all done, of course, but since things come up and sometimes the tasks take longer, I need to know which ones you consider most important to get done. The others will get done when everything comes together, but probably won't get done most weeks.
If the boss doesn't want her working overtime, then the boss is probably ok with not all the work she is doing getting done. Find out the boss's priorities and work with that.
If she wants more hours, it sounds like this job isn't the right job for that. It could be worth one try asking the boss if full-time instead of overtime would be considered, but since she's probably not getting overtime pay for hours under 40, there's a good chance the boss only wants to pay for 30 hours.
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How should she handle not being able to perform all aspects of her job within the allotted time?
Speaking bluntly, this is her manager's problem, not hers.
Clearly she was willing to do paid overtime to compensate for the fact that she was not hired full time. Now, the manager is telling her to stop doing overtime.
As a result of that, she will be able to achieve less things than before when she was doing the overtime. Seems that the manager wants to stop the overtime for some reason unknown, but by doing that her productivity will also drop.
Like I said, this is her manager's call and problem; if he wants her to work less time the manager should expect less things done.
I'd suggest that, for her safety and to keep things clear, she writes a mail or talks to her manager to make this situation explicit, where they can discuss the new priorities. Something in the lines of:
Hello Mr. Manager. I received your email regarding the overtime, and that I should stop working those extra hours.
As now I will have less time to carry with all my responsibilities, I ask you which of those should I prioritize over the others? Currently I was able to handle tasks X, Y, and Z smoothly, but now I will have to drop one of those, or reduce the time spend on some of them to favor the other(s). Which should It be?
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If she thinks that she can't get all the work done in those hours, and she feels all the work is important, then she should go to her boss and work out priorities for the work: what work is most important, and what work may not get done with less hours.
Hi boss. Since I won't be able to get all my tasks done without overtime, what tasks are less important? I'll try to get them all done, of course, but since things come up and sometimes the tasks take longer, I need to know which ones you consider most important to get done. The others will get done when everything comes together, but probably won't get done most weeks.
If the boss doesn't want her working overtime, then the boss is probably ok with not all the work she is doing getting done. Find out the boss's priorities and work with that.
If she wants more hours, it sounds like this job isn't the right job for that. It could be worth one try asking the boss if full-time instead of overtime would be considered, but since she's probably not getting overtime pay for hours under 40, there's a good chance the boss only wants to pay for 30 hours.
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If she thinks that she can't get all the work done in those hours, and she feels all the work is important, then she should go to her boss and work out priorities for the work: what work is most important, and what work may not get done with less hours.
Hi boss. Since I won't be able to get all my tasks done without overtime, what tasks are less important? I'll try to get them all done, of course, but since things come up and sometimes the tasks take longer, I need to know which ones you consider most important to get done. The others will get done when everything comes together, but probably won't get done most weeks.
If the boss doesn't want her working overtime, then the boss is probably ok with not all the work she is doing getting done. Find out the boss's priorities and work with that.
If she wants more hours, it sounds like this job isn't the right job for that. It could be worth one try asking the boss if full-time instead of overtime would be considered, but since she's probably not getting overtime pay for hours under 40, there's a good chance the boss only wants to pay for 30 hours.
answered 13 mins ago
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If she thinks that she can't get all the work done in those hours, and she feels all the work is important, then she should go to her boss and work out priorities for the work: what work is most important, and what work may not get done with less hours.
Hi boss. Since I won't be able to get all my tasks done without overtime, what tasks are less important? I'll try to get them all done, of course, but since things come up and sometimes the tasks take longer, I need to know which ones you consider most important to get done. The others will get done when everything comes together, but probably won't get done most weeks.
If the boss doesn't want her working overtime, then the boss is probably ok with not all the work she is doing getting done. Find out the boss's priorities and work with that.
If she wants more hours, it sounds like this job isn't the right job for that. It could be worth one try asking the boss if full-time instead of overtime would be considered, but since she's probably not getting overtime pay for hours under 40, there's a good chance the boss only wants to pay for 30 hours.
answered 13 mins ago
thursdaysgeek
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If she thinks that she can't get all the work done in those hours, and she feels all the work is important, then she should go to her boss and work out priorities for the work: what work is most important, and what work may not get done with less hours.
Hi boss. Since I won't be able to get all my tasks done without overtime, what tasks are less important? I'll try to get them all done, of course, but since things come up and sometimes the tasks take longer, I need to know which ones you consider most important to get done. The others will get done when everything comes together, but probably won't get done most weeks.
If the boss doesn't want her working overtime, then the boss is probably ok with not all the work she is doing getting done. Find out the boss's priorities and work with that.
If she wants more hours, it sounds like this job isn't the right job for that. It could be worth one try asking the boss if full-time instead of overtime would be considered, but since she's probably not getting overtime pay for hours under 40, there's a good chance the boss only wants to pay for 30 hours.
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How should she handle not being able to perform all aspects of her job within the allotted time?
Speaking bluntly, this is her manager's problem, not hers.
Clearly she was willing to do paid overtime to compensate for the fact that she was not hired full time. Now, the manager is telling her to stop doing overtime.
As a result of that, she will be able to achieve less things than before when she was doing the overtime. Seems that the manager wants to stop the overtime for some reason unknown, but by doing that her productivity will also drop.
Like I said, this is her manager's call and problem; if he wants her to work less time the manager should expect less things done.
I'd suggest that, for her safety and to keep things clear, she writes a mail or talks to her manager to make this situation explicit, where they can discuss the new priorities. Something in the lines of:
Hello Mr. Manager. I received your email regarding the overtime, and that I should stop working those extra hours.
As now I will have less time to carry with all my responsibilities, I ask you which of those should I prioritize over the others? Currently I was able to handle tasks X, Y, and Z smoothly, but now I will have to drop one of those, or reduce the time spend on some of them to favor the other(s). Which should It be?
answered 5 mins ago
DarkCygnus
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How should she handle not being able to perform all aspects of her job within the allotted time?
Speaking bluntly, this is her manager's problem, not hers.
Clearly she was willing to do paid overtime to compensate for the fact that she was not hired full time. Now, the manager is telling her to stop doing overtime.
As a result of that, she will be able to achieve less things than before when she was doing the overtime. Seems that the manager wants to stop the overtime for some reason unknown, but by doing that her productivity will also drop.
Like I said, this is her manager's call and problem; if he wants her to work less time the manager should expect less things done.
I'd suggest that, for her safety and to keep things clear, she writes a mail or talks to her manager to make this situation explicit, where they can discuss the new priorities. Something in the lines of:
Hello Mr. Manager. I received your email regarding the overtime, and that I should stop working those extra hours.
As now I will have less time to carry with all my responsibilities, I ask you which of those should I prioritize over the others? Currently I was able to handle tasks X, Y, and Z smoothly, but now I will have to drop one of those, or reduce the time spend on some of them to favor the other(s). Which should It be?
answered 5 mins ago
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up vote
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down vote
up vote
1
down vote
How should she handle not being able to perform all aspects of her job within the allotted time?
Speaking bluntly, this is her manager's problem, not hers.
Clearly she was willing to do paid overtime to compensate for the fact that she was not hired full time. Now, the manager is telling her to stop doing overtime.
As a result of that, she will be able to achieve less things than before when she was doing the overtime. Seems that the manager wants to stop the overtime for some reason unknown, but by doing that her productivity will also drop.
Like I said, this is her manager's call and problem; if he wants her to work less time the manager should expect less things done.
I'd suggest that, for her safety and to keep things clear, she writes a mail or talks to her manager to make this situation explicit, where they can discuss the new priorities. Something in the lines of:
Hello Mr. Manager. I received your email regarding the overtime, and that I should stop working those extra hours.
As now I will have less time to carry with all my responsibilities, I ask you which of those should I prioritize over the others? Currently I was able to handle tasks X, Y, and Z smoothly, but now I will have to drop one of those, or reduce the time spend on some of them to favor the other(s). Which should It be?
answered 5 mins ago
DarkCygnus
28.5k1353120
How should she handle not being able to perform all aspects of her job within the allotted time?
Speaking bluntly, this is her manager's problem, not hers.
Clearly she was willing to do paid overtime to compensate for the fact that she was not hired full time. Now, the manager is telling her to stop doing overtime.
As a result of that, she will be able to achieve less things than before when she was doing the overtime. Seems that the manager wants to stop the overtime for some reason unknown, but by doing that her productivity will also drop.
Like I said, this is her manager's call and problem; if he wants her to work less time the manager should expect less things done.
I'd suggest that, for her safety and to keep things clear, she writes a mail or talks to her manager to make this situation explicit, where they can discuss the new priorities. Something in the lines of:
Hello Mr. Manager. I received your email regarding the overtime, and that I should stop working those extra hours.
As now I will have less time to carry with all my responsibilities, I ask you which of those should I prioritize over the others? Currently I was able to handle tasks X, Y, and Z smoothly, but now I will have to drop one of those, or reduce the time spend on some of them to favor the other(s). Which should It be?
answered 5 mins ago
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sounds pennywise and pound foolish.
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