finding the general solution for a differential equation
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I'm practicing for the DE midterm, going through (supposedly) basic questions to practice.
I am now stuck on this question. I am supposed to find the general equation for the given DE. I don't know what I did wrong. I think the approach is correct, but possibly a calculation error? I can't quite figure it out (I've been trying it for at least an hour)
I divided $x^2$ to get rid of the coefficient on $y'$, and then applied Bernoulli's method. Next, I used the intergating factor method since it seemed appropriate to use. Some calculation followed and I got y(x) = C*x^(9/2) - which not an answer.
Can anyone point out where I got it wrong? Sorry for the bad handwriting in advance.
$$x^2y'+2xy=5y^4$$
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I'm practicing for the DE midterm, going through (supposedly) basic questions to practice.
I am now stuck on this question. I am supposed to find the general equation for the given DE. I don't know what I did wrong. I think the approach is correct, but possibly a calculation error? I can't quite figure it out (I've been trying it for at least an hour)
I divided $x^2$ to get rid of the coefficient on $y'$, and then applied Bernoulli's method. Next, I used the intergating factor method since it seemed appropriate to use. Some calculation followed and I got y(x) = C*x^(9/2) - which not an answer.
Can anyone point out where I got it wrong? Sorry for the bad handwriting in advance.
$$x^2y'+2xy=5y^4$$
differential-equations
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I'm practicing for the DE midterm, going through (supposedly) basic questions to practice.
I am now stuck on this question. I am supposed to find the general equation for the given DE. I don't know what I did wrong. I think the approach is correct, but possibly a calculation error? I can't quite figure it out (I've been trying it for at least an hour)
I divided $x^2$ to get rid of the coefficient on $y'$, and then applied Bernoulli's method. Next, I used the intergating factor method since it seemed appropriate to use. Some calculation followed and I got y(x) = C*x^(9/2) - which not an answer.
Can anyone point out where I got it wrong? Sorry for the bad handwriting in advance.
$$x^2y'+2xy=5y^4$$
differential-equations
I'm practicing for the DE midterm, going through (supposedly) basic questions to practice.
I am now stuck on this question. I am supposed to find the general equation for the given DE. I don't know what I did wrong. I think the approach is correct, but possibly a calculation error? I can't quite figure it out (I've been trying it for at least an hour)
I divided $x^2$ to get rid of the coefficient on $y'$, and then applied Bernoulli's method. Next, I used the intergating factor method since it seemed appropriate to use. Some calculation followed and I got y(x) = C*x^(9/2) - which not an answer.
Can anyone point out where I got it wrong? Sorry for the bad handwriting in advance.
$$x^2y'+2xy=5y^4$$
differential-equations
differential-equations
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Can you include the DEQ in the actual question for various reasons?
– Moo
1 hour ago
it's done. Hope it helps
– Subin Park
1 hour ago
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Can you include the DEQ in the actual question for various reasons?
– Moo
1 hour ago
it's done. Hope it helps
– Subin Park
1 hour ago
Can you include the DEQ in the actual question for various reasons?
– Moo
1 hour ago
Can you include the DEQ in the actual question for various reasons?
– Moo
1 hour ago
it's done. Hope it helps
– Subin Park
1 hour ago
it's done. Hope it helps
– Subin Park
1 hour ago
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$$x^2y'+2xy=5y^4$$
$$x^2fracy'y^4+2xfrac1y^3=5$$
$$x^2frac-13left(fracy'y^3right)'+2xfrac1y^3=5$$
Obviously the change of function $v=frac1y^3$ is better than $v=y^3$.
$$v=frac1y^3quadtextleads toquad -x^2v'+6xv=15$$
which is a linear ODE, easy to solve :
$$v=cx^6+frac157x$$
$$y^3=frac1cx^6+frac157x$$
Hi Jean ! I made a stupid typo ! Cheers.
– Claude Leibovici
49 mins ago
Hi Claude ! I didn't see your answer when I was still typing mine. Seeing it now, we agree, +1 for you. Cheers.
– JJacquelin
15 mins ago
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$$x^2y'+2xy=5y^4$$
It's really hard to read the picture ...and to point out where you made mistakes
$$(x^2y)'=frac 5y^4x^8 x^8$$
$$int frac dx^2yx^8y^4=5int frac dxx^8$$
$$int frac dx^2y(x^2y)^4=- frac 57x^7+K$$
$$ frac 13(x^2y)^3= frac 57x^7+K$$
$$ x= y^3(frac 157+Cx^7)$$
$$implies y^3= frac x (frac 157+Cx^7)$$
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Hint
Being almost blind, it is quite difficult to me to read your notes.
From what I can see, you used $y=v^3$; use instead $y^3=frac 1v$ and you will arrive to something simple since the equation will become
$$x^2 v'-6 x v+15=0$$
+1 Claude you aint that blind...I didnt see that ...
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3 Answers
3
active
oldest
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3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
$$x^2y'+2xy=5y^4$$
$$x^2fracy'y^4+2xfrac1y^3=5$$
$$x^2frac-13left(fracy'y^3right)'+2xfrac1y^3=5$$
Obviously the change of function $v=frac1y^3$ is better than $v=y^3$.
$$v=frac1y^3quadtextleads toquad -x^2v'+6xv=15$$
which is a linear ODE, easy to solve :
$$v=cx^6+frac157x$$
$$y^3=frac1cx^6+frac157x$$
Hi Jean ! I made a stupid typo ! Cheers.
– Claude Leibovici
49 mins ago
Hi Claude ! I didn't see your answer when I was still typing mine. Seeing it now, we agree, +1 for you. Cheers.
– JJacquelin
15 mins ago
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up vote
2
down vote
accepted
$$x^2y'+2xy=5y^4$$
$$x^2fracy'y^4+2xfrac1y^3=5$$
$$x^2frac-13left(fracy'y^3right)'+2xfrac1y^3=5$$
Obviously the change of function $v=frac1y^3$ is better than $v=y^3$.
$$v=frac1y^3quadtextleads toquad -x^2v'+6xv=15$$
which is a linear ODE, easy to solve :
$$v=cx^6+frac157x$$
$$y^3=frac1cx^6+frac157x$$
Hi Jean ! I made a stupid typo ! Cheers.
– Claude Leibovici
49 mins ago
Hi Claude ! I didn't see your answer when I was still typing mine. Seeing it now, we agree, +1 for you. Cheers.
– JJacquelin
15 mins ago
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up vote
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accepted
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
$$x^2y'+2xy=5y^4$$
$$x^2fracy'y^4+2xfrac1y^3=5$$
$$x^2frac-13left(fracy'y^3right)'+2xfrac1y^3=5$$
Obviously the change of function $v=frac1y^3$ is better than $v=y^3$.
$$v=frac1y^3quadtextleads toquad -x^2v'+6xv=15$$
which is a linear ODE, easy to solve :
$$v=cx^6+frac157x$$
$$y^3=frac1cx^6+frac157x$$
$$x^2y'+2xy=5y^4$$
$$x^2fracy'y^4+2xfrac1y^3=5$$
$$x^2frac-13left(fracy'y^3right)'+2xfrac1y^3=5$$
Obviously the change of function $v=frac1y^3$ is better than $v=y^3$.
$$v=frac1y^3quadtextleads toquad -x^2v'+6xv=15$$
which is a linear ODE, easy to solve :
$$v=cx^6+frac157x$$
$$y^3=frac1cx^6+frac157x$$
answered 58 mins ago
JJacquelin
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Hi Jean ! I made a stupid typo ! Cheers.
– Claude Leibovici
49 mins ago
Hi Claude ! I didn't see your answer when I was still typing mine. Seeing it now, we agree, +1 for you. Cheers.
– JJacquelin
15 mins ago
add a comment |Â
Hi Jean ! I made a stupid typo ! Cheers.
– Claude Leibovici
49 mins ago
Hi Claude ! I didn't see your answer when I was still typing mine. Seeing it now, we agree, +1 for you. Cheers.
– JJacquelin
15 mins ago
Hi Jean ! I made a stupid typo ! Cheers.
– Claude Leibovici
49 mins ago
Hi Jean ! I made a stupid typo ! Cheers.
– Claude Leibovici
49 mins ago
Hi Claude ! I didn't see your answer when I was still typing mine. Seeing it now, we agree, +1 for you. Cheers.
– JJacquelin
15 mins ago
Hi Claude ! I didn't see your answer when I was still typing mine. Seeing it now, we agree, +1 for you. Cheers.
– JJacquelin
15 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
$$x^2y'+2xy=5y^4$$
It's really hard to read the picture ...and to point out where you made mistakes
$$(x^2y)'=frac 5y^4x^8 x^8$$
$$int frac dx^2yx^8y^4=5int frac dxx^8$$
$$int frac dx^2y(x^2y)^4=- frac 57x^7+K$$
$$ frac 13(x^2y)^3= frac 57x^7+K$$
$$ x= y^3(frac 157+Cx^7)$$
$$implies y^3= frac x (frac 157+Cx^7)$$
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
$$x^2y'+2xy=5y^4$$
It's really hard to read the picture ...and to point out where you made mistakes
$$(x^2y)'=frac 5y^4x^8 x^8$$
$$int frac dx^2yx^8y^4=5int frac dxx^8$$
$$int frac dx^2y(x^2y)^4=- frac 57x^7+K$$
$$ frac 13(x^2y)^3= frac 57x^7+K$$
$$ x= y^3(frac 157+Cx^7)$$
$$implies y^3= frac x (frac 157+Cx^7)$$
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
$$x^2y'+2xy=5y^4$$
It's really hard to read the picture ...and to point out where you made mistakes
$$(x^2y)'=frac 5y^4x^8 x^8$$
$$int frac dx^2yx^8y^4=5int frac dxx^8$$
$$int frac dx^2y(x^2y)^4=- frac 57x^7+K$$
$$ frac 13(x^2y)^3= frac 57x^7+K$$
$$ x= y^3(frac 157+Cx^7)$$
$$implies y^3= frac x (frac 157+Cx^7)$$
$$x^2y'+2xy=5y^4$$
It's really hard to read the picture ...and to point out where you made mistakes
$$(x^2y)'=frac 5y^4x^8 x^8$$
$$int frac dx^2yx^8y^4=5int frac dxx^8$$
$$int frac dx^2y(x^2y)^4=- frac 57x^7+K$$
$$ frac 13(x^2y)^3= frac 57x^7+K$$
$$ x= y^3(frac 157+Cx^7)$$
$$implies y^3= frac x (frac 157+Cx^7)$$
edited 1 hour ago
answered 1 hour ago


Isham
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up vote
3
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Hint
Being almost blind, it is quite difficult to me to read your notes.
From what I can see, you used $y=v^3$; use instead $y^3=frac 1v$ and you will arrive to something simple since the equation will become
$$x^2 v'-6 x v+15=0$$
+1 Claude you aint that blind...I didnt see that ...
– Isham
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
Hint
Being almost blind, it is quite difficult to me to read your notes.
From what I can see, you used $y=v^3$; use instead $y^3=frac 1v$ and you will arrive to something simple since the equation will become
$$x^2 v'-6 x v+15=0$$
+1 Claude you aint that blind...I didnt see that ...
– Isham
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
Hint
Being almost blind, it is quite difficult to me to read your notes.
From what I can see, you used $y=v^3$; use instead $y^3=frac 1v$ and you will arrive to something simple since the equation will become
$$x^2 v'-6 x v+15=0$$
Hint
Being almost blind, it is quite difficult to me to read your notes.
From what I can see, you used $y=v^3$; use instead $y^3=frac 1v$ and you will arrive to something simple since the equation will become
$$x^2 v'-6 x v+15=0$$
edited 50 mins ago
answered 1 hour ago
Claude Leibovici
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+1 Claude you aint that blind...I didnt see that ...
– Isham
1 hour ago
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+1 Claude you aint that blind...I didnt see that ...
– Isham
1 hour ago
+1 Claude you aint that blind...I didnt see that ...
– Isham
1 hour ago
+1 Claude you aint that blind...I didnt see that ...
– Isham
1 hour ago
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Can you include the DEQ in the actual question for various reasons?
– Moo
1 hour ago
it's done. Hope it helps
– Subin Park
1 hour ago