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I've been fascinated by Venom since I was a kid, and for years have been drafting short stories inspired by this type of character -- a sentient "infection" that can impart both power and weakness to the host. I'd like to know what may have inspired this concept, but I haven't come across anything like it outside of Marvel comics.
What is the first example in film or print of an intelligent symbiotic organism prior to Marvel comics?
Specifically, I'm looking for a story, film, or television episode about an intelligent species which bonds with another intelligent host, enhancing the host's abilities, while also creating new challenges or problems for the host. The symbiote could be benign or malignant, and could either depend on the host for survival or not -- but in any case the relationship between the two should be mutually beneficial, at least at first.
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I've been fascinated by Venom since I was a kid, and for years have been drafting short stories inspired by this type of character -- a sentient "infection" that can impart both power and weakness to the host. I'd like to know what may have inspired this concept, but I haven't come across anything like it outside of Marvel comics.
What is the first example in film or print of an intelligent symbiotic organism prior to Marvel comics?
Specifically, I'm looking for a story, film, or television episode about an intelligent species which bonds with another intelligent host, enhancing the host's abilities, while also creating new challenges or problems for the host. The symbiote could be benign or malignant, and could either depend on the host for survival or not -- but in any case the relationship between the two should be mutually beneficial, at least at first.
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This is a rather open-ended question for an SE site, and is liable to be closed as too broad. A common remedy for this is to ask for the first example of such an entity, rather than simply other examples.
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I've been fascinated by Venom since I was a kid, and for years have been drafting short stories inspired by this type of character -- a sentient "infection" that can impart both power and weakness to the host. I'd like to know what may have inspired this concept, but I haven't come across anything like it outside of Marvel comics.
What is the first example in film or print of an intelligent symbiotic organism prior to Marvel comics?
Specifically, I'm looking for a story, film, or television episode about an intelligent species which bonds with another intelligent host, enhancing the host's abilities, while also creating new challenges or problems for the host. The symbiote could be benign or malignant, and could either depend on the host for survival or not -- but in any case the relationship between the two should be mutually beneficial, at least at first.
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I've been fascinated by Venom since I was a kid, and for years have been drafting short stories inspired by this type of character -- a sentient "infection" that can impart both power and weakness to the host. I'd like to know what may have inspired this concept, but I haven't come across anything like it outside of Marvel comics.
What is the first example in film or print of an intelligent symbiotic organism prior to Marvel comics?
Specifically, I'm looking for a story, film, or television episode about an intelligent species which bonds with another intelligent host, enhancing the host's abilities, while also creating new challenges or problems for the host. The symbiote could be benign or malignant, and could either depend on the host for survival or not -- but in any case the relationship between the two should be mutually beneficial, at least at first.
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This is a rather open-ended question for an SE site, and is liable to be closed as too broad. A common remedy for this is to ask for the first example of such an entity, rather than simply other examples.
– RDFozz
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@RDFozz good call -- edited.
– LShaver
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Tropes has a list, although it lacks a chronology.
– Gaultheria
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This is a rather open-ended question for an SE site, and is liable to be closed as too broad. A common remedy for this is to ask for the first example of such an entity, rather than simply other examples.
– RDFozz
4 hours ago
@RDFozz good call -- edited.
– LShaver
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Tropes has a list, although it lacks a chronology.
– Gaultheria
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This is a rather open-ended question for an SE site, and is liable to be closed as too broad. A common remedy for this is to ask for the first example of such an entity, rather than simply other examples.
– RDFozz
4 hours ago
This is a rather open-ended question for an SE site, and is liable to be closed as too broad. A common remedy for this is to ask for the first example of such an entity, rather than simply other examples.
– RDFozz
4 hours ago
@RDFozz good call -- edited.
– LShaver
4 hours ago
@RDFozz good call -- edited.
– LShaver
4 hours ago
Tropes has a list, although it lacks a chronology.
– Gaultheria
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Tropes has a list, although it lacks a chronology.
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In Mike Resnick's Birthright: Book of Man (1982), humanity encounters an intelligent alien species that basically eats and breathes human waste products and excretes oxygen, water, and edible food. Humans and aliens are essentially joined together for deep space voyages that would require too many supplies for either race alone (this ends badly for everyone) . Humans and the aliens are symbiotes to each other but not the same way as Venom.
(Sorry, written before the question was edited.)
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1945: "Correspondence Course", a short story by Raymond F. Jones, first published in Astounding Science Fiction, April 1945, available at the Internet Archive.
We don't get to see the symbiosis in action, as the story ends right after the human protagonist accepts the alien symbiote, a shipwrecked space traveler whose symbiotic partner has died.
"I'll bargain with you," said Quilcon at last. "Let me be the other of you, and I'll give you what you want."
"The other of me? What are you talking about?"
"It is hard for you to understand. It is union—such as we make upon our world. When two or more of us want to be together we go together in the same brain, the same body. I am alone now, and it is an unendurable existence because I have known what it is to have another of me.
"Let me come into your brain, into your mind and live there with you. We will teach your people and mine. We will take this ship to all the universes of which living creatures can dream. It is either this or we both die together, for too much time has gone for me to return. This body dies.
Stunned by Quilcon's ultimatum, Jim Ward stared at the ugly slug on the wall. Its brown body was heaving with violent pulsations of pain and a sense of delirium and terror came from it to Jim.
"Hurry! Let me come!" it pleaded.
He could feel sensations as if fingers were probing his cranium looking, pleading for entrance. It turned him cold.
He looked into the years and thought of an existence with this alien mind in his. Would they battle for eventual possession of his body and he perhaps be subjected to slavery in his own living corpse?
He tried to probe Quilcon's thoughts, but he could find no sense or intent of conquest. There were almost human amenities intermingled with a world of new science and thought.
He knew Quilcon would keep his promise to give the secrets of the ship to the men of Earth. That alone would be worth the price of his sacrifice—if it should be sacrifice.
"Come!" he said quietly.
It was as if a torrent of liquid light were flowing into his brain. It was blinding and excruciating in its flaming intensity. He thought he sensed rather than saw the brown husk of Quilcon quiver in the hemisphere and shrivel like a brown nut.
[. . . .]
The solitary figure of Jim Ward moved toward the ramp and disappeared into the depths of the ship.
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In Mike Resnick's Birthright: Book of Man (1982), humanity encounters an intelligent alien species that basically eats and breathes human waste products and excretes oxygen, water, and edible food. Humans and aliens are essentially joined together for deep space voyages that would require too many supplies for either race alone (this ends badly for everyone) . Humans and the aliens are symbiotes to each other but not the same way as Venom.
(Sorry, written before the question was edited.)
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In Mike Resnick's Birthright: Book of Man (1982), humanity encounters an intelligent alien species that basically eats and breathes human waste products and excretes oxygen, water, and edible food. Humans and aliens are essentially joined together for deep space voyages that would require too many supplies for either race alone (this ends badly for everyone) . Humans and the aliens are symbiotes to each other but not the same way as Venom.
(Sorry, written before the question was edited.)
answered 3 hours ago
Mark Mills
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up vote
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In Mike Resnick's Birthright: Book of Man (1982), humanity encounters an intelligent alien species that basically eats and breathes human waste products and excretes oxygen, water, and edible food. Humans and aliens are essentially joined together for deep space voyages that would require too many supplies for either race alone (this ends badly for everyone) . Humans and the aliens are symbiotes to each other but not the same way as Venom.
(Sorry, written before the question was edited.)
answered 3 hours ago
Mark Mills
9357
In Mike Resnick's Birthright: Book of Man (1982), humanity encounters an intelligent alien species that basically eats and breathes human waste products and excretes oxygen, water, and edible food. Humans and aliens are essentially joined together for deep space voyages that would require too many supplies for either race alone (this ends badly for everyone) . Humans and the aliens are symbiotes to each other but not the same way as Venom.
(Sorry, written before the question was edited.)
answered 3 hours ago
Mark Mills
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answered 3 hours ago
Mark Mills
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answered 3 hours ago
Mark Mills
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answered 3 hours ago
Mark Mills
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1945: "Correspondence Course", a short story by Raymond F. Jones, first published in Astounding Science Fiction, April 1945, available at the Internet Archive.
We don't get to see the symbiosis in action, as the story ends right after the human protagonist accepts the alien symbiote, a shipwrecked space traveler whose symbiotic partner has died.
"I'll bargain with you," said Quilcon at last. "Let me be the other of you, and I'll give you what you want."
"The other of me? What are you talking about?"
"It is hard for you to understand. It is union—such as we make upon our world. When two or more of us want to be together we go together in the same brain, the same body. I am alone now, and it is an unendurable existence because I have known what it is to have another of me.
"Let me come into your brain, into your mind and live there with you. We will teach your people and mine. We will take this ship to all the universes of which living creatures can dream. It is either this or we both die together, for too much time has gone for me to return. This body dies.
Stunned by Quilcon's ultimatum, Jim Ward stared at the ugly slug on the wall. Its brown body was heaving with violent pulsations of pain and a sense of delirium and terror came from it to Jim.
"Hurry! Let me come!" it pleaded.
He could feel sensations as if fingers were probing his cranium looking, pleading for entrance. It turned him cold.
He looked into the years and thought of an existence with this alien mind in his. Would they battle for eventual possession of his body and he perhaps be subjected to slavery in his own living corpse?
He tried to probe Quilcon's thoughts, but he could find no sense or intent of conquest. There were almost human amenities intermingled with a world of new science and thought.
He knew Quilcon would keep his promise to give the secrets of the ship to the men of Earth. That alone would be worth the price of his sacrifice—if it should be sacrifice.
"Come!" he said quietly.
It was as if a torrent of liquid light were flowing into his brain. It was blinding and excruciating in its flaming intensity. He thought he sensed rather than saw the brown husk of Quilcon quiver in the hemisphere and shrivel like a brown nut.
[. . . .]
The solitary figure of Jim Ward moved toward the ramp and disappeared into the depths of the ship.
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1945: "Correspondence Course", a short story by Raymond F. Jones, first published in Astounding Science Fiction, April 1945, available at the Internet Archive.
We don't get to see the symbiosis in action, as the story ends right after the human protagonist accepts the alien symbiote, a shipwrecked space traveler whose symbiotic partner has died.
"I'll bargain with you," said Quilcon at last. "Let me be the other of you, and I'll give you what you want."
"The other of me? What are you talking about?"
"It is hard for you to understand. It is union—such as we make upon our world. When two or more of us want to be together we go together in the same brain, the same body. I am alone now, and it is an unendurable existence because I have known what it is to have another of me.
"Let me come into your brain, into your mind and live there with you. We will teach your people and mine. We will take this ship to all the universes of which living creatures can dream. It is either this or we both die together, for too much time has gone for me to return. This body dies.
Stunned by Quilcon's ultimatum, Jim Ward stared at the ugly slug on the wall. Its brown body was heaving with violent pulsations of pain and a sense of delirium and terror came from it to Jim.
"Hurry! Let me come!" it pleaded.
He could feel sensations as if fingers were probing his cranium looking, pleading for entrance. It turned him cold.
He looked into the years and thought of an existence with this alien mind in his. Would they battle for eventual possession of his body and he perhaps be subjected to slavery in his own living corpse?
He tried to probe Quilcon's thoughts, but he could find no sense or intent of conquest. There were almost human amenities intermingled with a world of new science and thought.
He knew Quilcon would keep his promise to give the secrets of the ship to the men of Earth. That alone would be worth the price of his sacrifice—if it should be sacrifice.
"Come!" he said quietly.
It was as if a torrent of liquid light were flowing into his brain. It was blinding and excruciating in its flaming intensity. He thought he sensed rather than saw the brown husk of Quilcon quiver in the hemisphere and shrivel like a brown nut.
[. . . .]
The solitary figure of Jim Ward moved toward the ramp and disappeared into the depths of the ship.
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1945: "Correspondence Course", a short story by Raymond F. Jones, first published in Astounding Science Fiction, April 1945, available at the Internet Archive.
We don't get to see the symbiosis in action, as the story ends right after the human protagonist accepts the alien symbiote, a shipwrecked space traveler whose symbiotic partner has died.
"I'll bargain with you," said Quilcon at last. "Let me be the other of you, and I'll give you what you want."
"The other of me? What are you talking about?"
"It is hard for you to understand. It is union—such as we make upon our world. When two or more of us want to be together we go together in the same brain, the same body. I am alone now, and it is an unendurable existence because I have known what it is to have another of me.
"Let me come into your brain, into your mind and live there with you. We will teach your people and mine. We will take this ship to all the universes of which living creatures can dream. It is either this or we both die together, for too much time has gone for me to return. This body dies.
Stunned by Quilcon's ultimatum, Jim Ward stared at the ugly slug on the wall. Its brown body was heaving with violent pulsations of pain and a sense of delirium and terror came from it to Jim.
"Hurry! Let me come!" it pleaded.
He could feel sensations as if fingers were probing his cranium looking, pleading for entrance. It turned him cold.
He looked into the years and thought of an existence with this alien mind in his. Would they battle for eventual possession of his body and he perhaps be subjected to slavery in his own living corpse?
He tried to probe Quilcon's thoughts, but he could find no sense or intent of conquest. There were almost human amenities intermingled with a world of new science and thought.
He knew Quilcon would keep his promise to give the secrets of the ship to the men of Earth. That alone would be worth the price of his sacrifice—if it should be sacrifice.
"Come!" he said quietly.
It was as if a torrent of liquid light were flowing into his brain. It was blinding and excruciating in its flaming intensity. He thought he sensed rather than saw the brown husk of Quilcon quiver in the hemisphere and shrivel like a brown nut.
[. . . .]
The solitary figure of Jim Ward moved toward the ramp and disappeared into the depths of the ship.
answered 17 mins ago
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1945: "Correspondence Course", a short story by Raymond F. Jones, first published in Astounding Science Fiction, April 1945, available at the Internet Archive.
We don't get to see the symbiosis in action, as the story ends right after the human protagonist accepts the alien symbiote, a shipwrecked space traveler whose symbiotic partner has died.
"I'll bargain with you," said Quilcon at last. "Let me be the other of you, and I'll give you what you want."
"The other of me? What are you talking about?"
"It is hard for you to understand. It is union—such as we make upon our world. When two or more of us want to be together we go together in the same brain, the same body. I am alone now, and it is an unendurable existence because I have known what it is to have another of me.
"Let me come into your brain, into your mind and live there with you. We will teach your people and mine. We will take this ship to all the universes of which living creatures can dream. It is either this or we both die together, for too much time has gone for me to return. This body dies.
Stunned by Quilcon's ultimatum, Jim Ward stared at the ugly slug on the wall. Its brown body was heaving with violent pulsations of pain and a sense of delirium and terror came from it to Jim.
"Hurry! Let me come!" it pleaded.
He could feel sensations as if fingers were probing his cranium looking, pleading for entrance. It turned him cold.
He looked into the years and thought of an existence with this alien mind in his. Would they battle for eventual possession of his body and he perhaps be subjected to slavery in his own living corpse?
He tried to probe Quilcon's thoughts, but he could find no sense or intent of conquest. There were almost human amenities intermingled with a world of new science and thought.
He knew Quilcon would keep his promise to give the secrets of the ship to the men of Earth. That alone would be worth the price of his sacrifice—if it should be sacrifice.
"Come!" he said quietly.
It was as if a torrent of liquid light were flowing into his brain. It was blinding and excruciating in its flaming intensity. He thought he sensed rather than saw the brown husk of Quilcon quiver in the hemisphere and shrivel like a brown nut.
[. . . .]
The solitary figure of Jim Ward moved toward the ramp and disappeared into the depths of the ship.
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This is a rather open-ended question for an SE site, and is liable to be closed as too broad. A common remedy for this is to ask for the first example of such an entity, rather than simply other examples.
– RDFozz
4 hours ago
@RDFozz good call -- edited.
– LShaver
4 hours ago
Tropes has a list, although it lacks a chronology.
– Gaultheria
3 hours ago