Does hitting a creature with a magical creature counts as magical damage?

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Half-Orc Barbarian Conan has been Enlarged, making him Large. During a fight against some Couatls, he managed to grappled one and beat it to death.



Now, having already something (the body of the dead Couatl) in his hands and being a tad affected by its current rage, Conan decides to strike a second Couatl with the first one. Laughs all around the table as the DM rules that he can indeed wield the corpse as an improvised weapon (bludgeoning), given the situation.



A Couatl is immune to non-magical bludgeoning, among other things. But given the fact that the first Couatl is a magical creature and has the Magic Weapons feature, does the damage counts as magical damage?




Magic Weapons: The couatl's weapon attacks are magical.




If yes, would any "magical creatures" work for this purpose or only ones with the Magic Weapons feature?






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    Out of curiousity, what did "Conan" use to kill the first couatl?
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  • @Slagmoth: he used "Gollum", the goblin rogue who has a Dagger +1.
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Half-Orc Barbarian Conan has been Enlarged, making him Large. During a fight against some Couatls, he managed to grappled one and beat it to death.



Now, having already something (the body of the dead Couatl) in his hands and being a tad affected by its current rage, Conan decides to strike a second Couatl with the first one. Laughs all around the table as the DM rules that he can indeed wield the corpse as an improvised weapon (bludgeoning), given the situation.



A Couatl is immune to non-magical bludgeoning, among other things. But given the fact that the first Couatl is a magical creature and has the Magic Weapons feature, does the damage counts as magical damage?




Magic Weapons: The couatl's weapon attacks are magical.




If yes, would any "magical creatures" work for this purpose or only ones with the Magic Weapons feature?






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    Out of curiousity, what did "Conan" use to kill the first couatl?
    – Slagmoth
    23 mins ago










  • @Slagmoth: he used "Gollum", the goblin rogue who has a Dagger +1.
    – Alex Millette
    43 secs ago












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Half-Orc Barbarian Conan has been Enlarged, making him Large. During a fight against some Couatls, he managed to grappled one and beat it to death.



Now, having already something (the body of the dead Couatl) in his hands and being a tad affected by its current rage, Conan decides to strike a second Couatl with the first one. Laughs all around the table as the DM rules that he can indeed wield the corpse as an improvised weapon (bludgeoning), given the situation.



A Couatl is immune to non-magical bludgeoning, among other things. But given the fact that the first Couatl is a magical creature and has the Magic Weapons feature, does the damage counts as magical damage?




Magic Weapons: The couatl's weapon attacks are magical.




If yes, would any "magical creatures" work for this purpose or only ones with the Magic Weapons feature?






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Half-Orc Barbarian Conan has been Enlarged, making him Large. During a fight against some Couatls, he managed to grappled one and beat it to death.



Now, having already something (the body of the dead Couatl) in his hands and being a tad affected by its current rage, Conan decides to strike a second Couatl with the first one. Laughs all around the table as the DM rules that he can indeed wield the corpse as an improvised weapon (bludgeoning), given the situation.



A Couatl is immune to non-magical bludgeoning, among other things. But given the fact that the first Couatl is a magical creature and has the Magic Weapons feature, does the damage counts as magical damage?




Magic Weapons: The couatl's weapon attacks are magical.




If yes, would any "magical creatures" work for this purpose or only ones with the Magic Weapons feature?






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    Out of curiousity, what did "Conan" use to kill the first couatl?
    – Slagmoth
    23 mins ago










  • @Slagmoth: he used "Gollum", the goblin rogue who has a Dagger +1.
    – Alex Millette
    43 secs ago












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    Out of curiousity, what did "Conan" use to kill the first couatl?
    – Slagmoth
    23 mins ago










  • @Slagmoth: he used "Gollum", the goblin rogue who has a Dagger +1.
    – Alex Millette
    43 secs ago







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Out of curiousity, what did "Conan" use to kill the first couatl?
– Slagmoth
23 mins ago




Out of curiousity, what did "Conan" use to kill the first couatl?
– Slagmoth
23 mins ago












@Slagmoth: he used "Gollum", the goblin rogue who has a Dagger +1.
– Alex Millette
43 secs ago




@Slagmoth: he used "Gollum", the goblin rogue who has a Dagger +1.
– Alex Millette
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Sadly, this wouldn't work RAW



Taking your quote:




Magic Weapons: The couatl's weapon attacks are magical.




It only says that the weapon attacks made by the couatl are magical, so this wouldn't transfer over to the barbarian using the body of one as an improvised weapon, since the couatl is not the one making the attack.



As for "any magical creature", this isn't really a game term, so it would be difficult to determine how that would work, although given that I've concluded that the above (i.e. with Magic Weapons) wouldn't work RAW, this probably doesn't matter.



That said, any DM can rule otherwise, and if your DM ruled that this would work, that's fine. I don't think it would unbalance anything or cause any real problems.



As a DM, I'd certainly rule that this works, if only for Rules as Fun, although if the barbarian didn't have a magic weapon (hypothetically), using this as his new magic weapon I probably wouldn't allow (I'd say something like how the magical nature of the couatl is an innate property that is lost shortly after it dies or something).






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    +1 for a common sense ruling. RAW is sometimes a spoilsport.
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Sadly, this wouldn't work RAW



Taking your quote:




Magic Weapons: The couatl's weapon attacks are magical.




It only says that the weapon attacks made by the couatl are magical, so this wouldn't transfer over to the barbarian using the body of one as an improvised weapon, since the couatl is not the one making the attack.



As for "any magical creature", this isn't really a game term, so it would be difficult to determine how that would work, although given that I've concluded that the above (i.e. with Magic Weapons) wouldn't work RAW, this probably doesn't matter.



That said, any DM can rule otherwise, and if your DM ruled that this would work, that's fine. I don't think it would unbalance anything or cause any real problems.



As a DM, I'd certainly rule that this works, if only for Rules as Fun, although if the barbarian didn't have a magic weapon (hypothetically), using this as his new magic weapon I probably wouldn't allow (I'd say something like how the magical nature of the couatl is an innate property that is lost shortly after it dies or something).






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    +1 for a common sense ruling. RAW is sometimes a spoilsport.
    – SeriousBri
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Sadly, this wouldn't work RAW



Taking your quote:




Magic Weapons: The couatl's weapon attacks are magical.




It only says that the weapon attacks made by the couatl are magical, so this wouldn't transfer over to the barbarian using the body of one as an improvised weapon, since the couatl is not the one making the attack.



As for "any magical creature", this isn't really a game term, so it would be difficult to determine how that would work, although given that I've concluded that the above (i.e. with Magic Weapons) wouldn't work RAW, this probably doesn't matter.



That said, any DM can rule otherwise, and if your DM ruled that this would work, that's fine. I don't think it would unbalance anything or cause any real problems.



As a DM, I'd certainly rule that this works, if only for Rules as Fun, although if the barbarian didn't have a magic weapon (hypothetically), using this as his new magic weapon I probably wouldn't allow (I'd say something like how the magical nature of the couatl is an innate property that is lost shortly after it dies or something).






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    +1 for a common sense ruling. RAW is sometimes a spoilsport.
    – SeriousBri
    18 mins ago












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Sadly, this wouldn't work RAW



Taking your quote:




Magic Weapons: The couatl's weapon attacks are magical.




It only says that the weapon attacks made by the couatl are magical, so this wouldn't transfer over to the barbarian using the body of one as an improvised weapon, since the couatl is not the one making the attack.



As for "any magical creature", this isn't really a game term, so it would be difficult to determine how that would work, although given that I've concluded that the above (i.e. with Magic Weapons) wouldn't work RAW, this probably doesn't matter.



That said, any DM can rule otherwise, and if your DM ruled that this would work, that's fine. I don't think it would unbalance anything or cause any real problems.



As a DM, I'd certainly rule that this works, if only for Rules as Fun, although if the barbarian didn't have a magic weapon (hypothetically), using this as his new magic weapon I probably wouldn't allow (I'd say something like how the magical nature of the couatl is an innate property that is lost shortly after it dies or something).






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Sadly, this wouldn't work RAW



Taking your quote:




Magic Weapons: The couatl's weapon attacks are magical.




It only says that the weapon attacks made by the couatl are magical, so this wouldn't transfer over to the barbarian using the body of one as an improvised weapon, since the couatl is not the one making the attack.



As for "any magical creature", this isn't really a game term, so it would be difficult to determine how that would work, although given that I've concluded that the above (i.e. with Magic Weapons) wouldn't work RAW, this probably doesn't matter.



That said, any DM can rule otherwise, and if your DM ruled that this would work, that's fine. I don't think it would unbalance anything or cause any real problems.



As a DM, I'd certainly rule that this works, if only for Rules as Fun, although if the barbarian didn't have a magic weapon (hypothetically), using this as his new magic weapon I probably wouldn't allow (I'd say something like how the magical nature of the couatl is an innate property that is lost shortly after it dies or something).







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    +1 for a common sense ruling. RAW is sometimes a spoilsport.
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    +1 for a common sense ruling. RAW is sometimes a spoilsport.
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+1 for a common sense ruling. RAW is sometimes a spoilsport.
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