Too many ni particles in one sentence?
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I know, generally, multiples of the same particles in a sentence is okaaay, but perhaps not natural-sounding in everyday conversation? I'm trying to create longer sentences by stringing together clauses:
ninjaã£ã½ã„ã«ãªるãŸã‚Âã«ã€Â日光ã«行ã£ãŸ。
Can any particles be dropped here? What should I change? As I understand, 㸠is used to emphasize direction, but I feel like I should be emphasizing the actual location.
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I know, generally, multiples of the same particles in a sentence is okaaay, but perhaps not natural-sounding in everyday conversation? I'm trying to create longer sentences by stringing together clauses:
ninjaã£ã½ã„ã«ãªるãŸã‚Âã«ã€Â日光ã«行ã£ãŸ。
Can any particles be dropped here? What should I change? As I understand, 㸠is used to emphasize direction, but I feel like I should be emphasizing the actual location.
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@Chocolate oh okay, because ã£ã½ã„ is used to describe the becoming, it needs to be conjugated...
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I know, generally, multiples of the same particles in a sentence is okaaay, but perhaps not natural-sounding in everyday conversation? I'm trying to create longer sentences by stringing together clauses:
ninjaã£ã½ã„ã«ãªるãŸã‚Âã«ã€Â日光ã«行ã£ãŸ。
Can any particles be dropped here? What should I change? As I understand, 㸠is used to emphasize direction, but I feel like I should be emphasizing the actual location.
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I know, generally, multiples of the same particles in a sentence is okaaay, but perhaps not natural-sounding in everyday conversation? I'm trying to create longer sentences by stringing together clauses:
ninjaã£ã½ã„ã«ãªるãŸã‚Âã«ã€Â日光ã«行ã£ãŸ。
Can any particles be dropped here? What should I change? As I understand, 㸠is used to emphasize direction, but I feel like I should be emphasizing the actual location.
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@Chocolate oh okay, because ã£ã½ã„ is used to describe the becoming, it needs to be conjugated...
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@Chocolate oh okay, because ã£ã½ã„ is used to describe the becoming, it needs to be conjugated...
– idkgaijin
2 hours ago
@Chocolate oh okay, because ã£ã½ã„ is used to describe the becoming, it needs to be conjugated...
– idkgaijin
2 hours ago
@Chocolate oh okay, because ã£ã½ã„ is used to describe the becoming, it needs to be conjugated...
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「~ã£ã½ã„ã«ãªる〠is grammatically incorrect. 「~ã£ã½ã„〠conjugates to 「~ã£ã½ãÂÂ〠in the adverbial/continuative form. cf: 「ã‹ã‚Âã„ã„ã€Â→「ã‹ã‚Âã„ãÂÂã€Â
日光ã«行ã£ãŸ can be rephrased as 日光ã¸行ã£ãŸ without changing the meaning. (~ヘ行ã£ãŸ sounds a tiny little bit more formal to my native ear.)
So you can say:
Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªるãŸã‚Âã«ã€Â日光ã«行ã£ãŸ。
Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªるãŸã‚Âã«ã€Â日光ã¸行ã£ãŸ。
(You could also drop the ã« in ãŸã‚Âã«, as in 「Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªるãŸã‚Âã€Â日光ã¸行ã£ãŸ。〠but this would sound pretty formal.)
You can also use 「ãªりãŸãÂÂã¦ã€Â, "wanting/hoping to be~", as in:
Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªりãŸãÂÂã¦ã€Â日光ã«行ã£ãŸ。
Eh that's interesting - why does dropping the ã« in ãŸã‚Âã« make it more formal?
– idkgaijin
2 hours ago
I can't say why... but 「V+ãŸã‚Â~~〠often sounds more formal than 「V+ãŸã‚Âã«~~〠when meaning "in order to~~" (purpose).
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2 hours ago
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「~ã£ã½ã„ã«ãªる〠is grammatically incorrect. 「~ã£ã½ã„〠conjugates to 「~ã£ã½ãÂÂ〠in the adverbial/continuative form. cf: 「ã‹ã‚Âã„ã„ã€Â→「ã‹ã‚Âã„ãÂÂã€Â
日光ã«行ã£ãŸ can be rephrased as 日光ã¸行ã£ãŸ without changing the meaning. (~ヘ行ã£ãŸ sounds a tiny little bit more formal to my native ear.)
So you can say:
Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªるãŸã‚Âã«ã€Â日光ã«行ã£ãŸ。
Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªるãŸã‚Âã«ã€Â日光ã¸行ã£ãŸ。
(You could also drop the ã« in ãŸã‚Âã«, as in 「Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªるãŸã‚Âã€Â日光ã¸行ã£ãŸ。〠but this would sound pretty formal.)
You can also use 「ãªりãŸãÂÂã¦ã€Â, "wanting/hoping to be~", as in:
Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªりãŸãÂÂã¦ã€Â日光ã«行ã£ãŸ。
Eh that's interesting - why does dropping the ã« in ãŸã‚Âã« make it more formal?
– idkgaijin
2 hours ago
I can't say why... but 「V+ãŸã‚Â~~〠often sounds more formal than 「V+ãŸã‚Âã«~~〠when meaning "in order to~~" (purpose).
– Chocolate
2 hours ago
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「~ã£ã½ã„ã«ãªる〠is grammatically incorrect. 「~ã£ã½ã„〠conjugates to 「~ã£ã½ãÂÂ〠in the adverbial/continuative form. cf: 「ã‹ã‚Âã„ã„ã€Â→「ã‹ã‚Âã„ãÂÂã€Â
日光ã«行ã£ãŸ can be rephrased as 日光ã¸行ã£ãŸ without changing the meaning. (~ヘ行ã£ãŸ sounds a tiny little bit more formal to my native ear.)
So you can say:
Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªるãŸã‚Âã«ã€Â日光ã«行ã£ãŸ。
Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªるãŸã‚Âã«ã€Â日光ã¸行ã£ãŸ。
(You could also drop the ã« in ãŸã‚Âã«, as in 「Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªるãŸã‚Âã€Â日光ã¸行ã£ãŸ。〠but this would sound pretty formal.)
You can also use 「ãªりãŸãÂÂã¦ã€Â, "wanting/hoping to be~", as in:
Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªりãŸãÂÂã¦ã€Â日光ã«行ã£ãŸ。
Eh that's interesting - why does dropping the ã« in ãŸã‚Âã« make it more formal?
– idkgaijin
2 hours ago
I can't say why... but 「V+ãŸã‚Â~~〠often sounds more formal than 「V+ãŸã‚Âã«~~〠when meaning "in order to~~" (purpose).
– Chocolate
2 hours ago
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「~ã£ã½ã„ã«ãªる〠is grammatically incorrect. 「~ã£ã½ã„〠conjugates to 「~ã£ã½ãÂÂ〠in the adverbial/continuative form. cf: 「ã‹ã‚Âã„ã„ã€Â→「ã‹ã‚Âã„ãÂÂã€Â
日光ã«行ã£ãŸ can be rephrased as 日光ã¸行ã£ãŸ without changing the meaning. (~ヘ行ã£ãŸ sounds a tiny little bit more formal to my native ear.)
So you can say:
Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªるãŸã‚Âã«ã€Â日光ã«行ã£ãŸ。
Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªるãŸã‚Âã«ã€Â日光ã¸行ã£ãŸ。
(You could also drop the ã« in ãŸã‚Âã«, as in 「Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªるãŸã‚Âã€Â日光ã¸行ã£ãŸ。〠but this would sound pretty formal.)
You can also use 「ãªりãŸãÂÂã¦ã€Â, "wanting/hoping to be~", as in:
Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªりãŸãÂÂã¦ã€Â日光ã«行ã£ãŸ。
「~ã£ã½ã„ã«ãªる〠is grammatically incorrect. 「~ã£ã½ã„〠conjugates to 「~ã£ã½ãÂÂ〠in the adverbial/continuative form. cf: 「ã‹ã‚Âã„ã„ã€Â→「ã‹ã‚Âã„ãÂÂã€Â
日光ã«行ã£ãŸ can be rephrased as 日光ã¸行ã£ãŸ without changing the meaning. (~ヘ行ã£ãŸ sounds a tiny little bit more formal to my native ear.)
So you can say:
Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªるãŸã‚Âã«ã€Â日光ã«行ã£ãŸ。
Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªるãŸã‚Âã«ã€Â日光ã¸行ã£ãŸ。
(You could also drop the ã« in ãŸã‚Âã«, as in 「Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªるãŸã‚Âã€Â日光ã¸行ã£ãŸ。〠but this would sound pretty formal.)
You can also use 「ãªりãŸãÂÂã¦ã€Â, "wanting/hoping to be~", as in:
Ninjaã£ã½ãÂÂãªりãŸãÂÂã¦ã€Â日光ã«行ã£ãŸ。
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Eh that's interesting - why does dropping the ã« in ãŸã‚Âã« make it more formal?
– idkgaijin
2 hours ago
I can't say why... but 「V+ãŸã‚Â~~〠often sounds more formal than 「V+ãŸã‚Âã«~~〠when meaning "in order to~~" (purpose).
– Chocolate
2 hours ago
add a comment |Â
Eh that's interesting - why does dropping the ã« in ãŸã‚Âã« make it more formal?
– idkgaijin
2 hours ago
I can't say why... but 「V+ãŸã‚Â~~〠often sounds more formal than 「V+ãŸã‚Âã«~~〠when meaning "in order to~~" (purpose).
– Chocolate
2 hours ago
Eh that's interesting - why does dropping the ã« in ãŸã‚Âã« make it more formal?
– idkgaijin
2 hours ago
Eh that's interesting - why does dropping the ã« in ãŸã‚Âã« make it more formal?
– idkgaijin
2 hours ago
I can't say why... but 「V+ãŸã‚Â~~〠often sounds more formal than 「V+ãŸã‚Âã«~~〠when meaning "in order to~~" (purpose).
– Chocolate
2 hours ago
I can't say why... but 「V+ãŸã‚Â~~〠often sounds more formal than 「V+ãŸã‚Âã«~~〠when meaning "in order to~~" (purpose).
– Chocolate
2 hours ago
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@Chocolate oh okay, because ã£ã½ã„ is used to describe the becoming, it needs to be conjugated...
– idkgaijin
2 hours ago