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Meteor Golem's ability is "When Meteor Golem enter the battlefield destroy target nonland permanent". Does Meteor Golems ability affect planewalkers, which count as players and not really creatures?
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Meteor Golem's ability is "When Meteor Golem enter the battlefield destroy target nonland permanent". Does Meteor Golems ability affect planewalkers, which count as players and not really creatures?
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You may be confused by the "planeswalker redirection" rule that allowed the controller of a spell or ability that targeted a player to be redirected to a planeswalker that player controls. This has recently been removed in favor of rewording the spells/abilities themselves to let them target planeswalkers. In any case planeswalkers were always counted as permanents and not players.
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Meteor Golem's ability is "When Meteor Golem enter the battlefield destroy target nonland permanent". Does Meteor Golems ability affect planewalkers, which count as players and not really creatures?
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Meteor Golem's ability is "When Meteor Golem enter the battlefield destroy target nonland permanent". Does Meteor Golems ability affect planewalkers, which count as players and not really creatures?
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Hackworth
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Lone Wolf
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You may be confused by the "planeswalker redirection" rule that allowed the controller of a spell or ability that targeted a player to be redirected to a planeswalker that player controls. This has recently been removed in favor of rewording the spells/abilities themselves to let them target planeswalkers. In any case planeswalkers were always counted as permanents and not players.
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You may be confused by the "planeswalker redirection" rule that allowed the controller of a spell or ability that targeted a player to be redirected to a planeswalker that player controls. This has recently been removed in favor of rewording the spells/abilities themselves to let them target planeswalkers. In any case planeswalkers were always counted as permanents and not players.
– chif-ii
1 hour ago
You may be confused by the "planeswalker redirection" rule that allowed the controller of a spell or ability that targeted a player to be redirected to a planeswalker that player controls. This has recently been removed in favor of rewording the spells/abilities themselves to let them target planeswalkers. In any case planeswalkers were always counted as permanents and not players.
– chif-ii
1 hour ago
You may be confused by the "planeswalker redirection" rule that allowed the controller of a spell or ability that targeted a player to be redirected to a planeswalker that player controls. This has recently been removed in favor of rewording the spells/abilities themselves to let them target planeswalkers. In any case planeswalkers were always counted as permanents and not players.
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Yes, Meteor Golem can target and destroy a planeswalker on the battlefield. The player is a "planeswalker" only in lore terms. As far as game mechanics are concerned, "planeswalker" has a defined meaning, and a planeswalker object is not a player and vice versa.
A planeswalker in the mechanical sense is a type of object, a game entity that interacts with players and other objects:
102.1. A player is one of the people in the game. [..]
109.1. An object is an ability on the stack, a card, a copy of a card, a token, a spell, a permanent, or an emblem.
A planeswalker is not a creature, as you already noted, but its own permanent type alongside creatures and others:
110.4. There are five permanent types: artifact, creature, enchantment, land, and planeswalker.
Therefore, if Meteor Golem can destroy a non-land permanent, then that does include a planeswalker on the battlefield.
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1 Answer
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Yes, Meteor Golem can target and destroy a planeswalker on the battlefield. The player is a "planeswalker" only in lore terms. As far as game mechanics are concerned, "planeswalker" has a defined meaning, and a planeswalker object is not a player and vice versa.
A planeswalker in the mechanical sense is a type of object, a game entity that interacts with players and other objects:
102.1. A player is one of the people in the game. [..]
109.1. An object is an ability on the stack, a card, a copy of a card, a token, a spell, a permanent, or an emblem.
A planeswalker is not a creature, as you already noted, but its own permanent type alongside creatures and others:
110.4. There are five permanent types: artifact, creature, enchantment, land, and planeswalker.
Therefore, if Meteor Golem can destroy a non-land permanent, then that does include a planeswalker on the battlefield.
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Yes, Meteor Golem can target and destroy a planeswalker on the battlefield. The player is a "planeswalker" only in lore terms. As far as game mechanics are concerned, "planeswalker" has a defined meaning, and a planeswalker object is not a player and vice versa.
A planeswalker in the mechanical sense is a type of object, a game entity that interacts with players and other objects:
102.1. A player is one of the people in the game. [..]
109.1. An object is an ability on the stack, a card, a copy of a card, a token, a spell, a permanent, or an emblem.
A planeswalker is not a creature, as you already noted, but its own permanent type alongside creatures and others:
110.4. There are five permanent types: artifact, creature, enchantment, land, and planeswalker.
Therefore, if Meteor Golem can destroy a non-land permanent, then that does include a planeswalker on the battlefield.
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Yes, Meteor Golem can target and destroy a planeswalker on the battlefield. The player is a "planeswalker" only in lore terms. As far as game mechanics are concerned, "planeswalker" has a defined meaning, and a planeswalker object is not a player and vice versa.
A planeswalker in the mechanical sense is a type of object, a game entity that interacts with players and other objects:
102.1. A player is one of the people in the game. [..]
109.1. An object is an ability on the stack, a card, a copy of a card, a token, a spell, a permanent, or an emblem.
A planeswalker is not a creature, as you already noted, but its own permanent type alongside creatures and others:
110.4. There are five permanent types: artifact, creature, enchantment, land, and planeswalker.
Therefore, if Meteor Golem can destroy a non-land permanent, then that does include a planeswalker on the battlefield.
answered 2 hours ago
Hackworth
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Yes, Meteor Golem can target and destroy a planeswalker on the battlefield. The player is a "planeswalker" only in lore terms. As far as game mechanics are concerned, "planeswalker" has a defined meaning, and a planeswalker object is not a player and vice versa.
A planeswalker in the mechanical sense is a type of object, a game entity that interacts with players and other objects:
102.1. A player is one of the people in the game. [..]
109.1. An object is an ability on the stack, a card, a copy of a card, a token, a spell, a permanent, or an emblem.
A planeswalker is not a creature, as you already noted, but its own permanent type alongside creatures and others:
110.4. There are five permanent types: artifact, creature, enchantment, land, and planeswalker.
Therefore, if Meteor Golem can destroy a non-land permanent, then that does include a planeswalker on the battlefield.
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You may be confused by the "planeswalker redirection" rule that allowed the controller of a spell or ability that targeted a player to be redirected to a planeswalker that player controls. This has recently been removed in favor of rewording the spells/abilities themselves to let them target planeswalkers. In any case planeswalkers were always counted as permanents and not players.
– chif-ii
1 hour ago