Found out a coworker's salary after looking at her boss's unlocked computer

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My friend is facing the following problem:



Her boss left the computer open and she then looked at his screen, where the salary of a cowworker at her level (who since has left the company) was displayed. As his salary was quite a lot higher than hers, she was shocked and told a coworked about it, and also to her boss who left the his computer open. In a pre-emptive strike he reported it to the management but says that she went through his email, essentially accessing his computer without consent.



Now human resources has written her an email, asking her to answer some questions until next week. Her answers would then lead to a decision whether disciplinary actions would follow.



The question are:



  • How did you find out about the salary?

  • Who did you share the information with?

  • Why did you think it is ok to discuss this with the colleagues you discussed it with?

  • What you expect to gain from discussing third-party salaries with colleagues

It is hardly illegal to look at somebody's screen. But is there an obligation not to disclose that information to colleagues? She is working for a company in the Uk.




Note: The original question falsly described the person with the unlocked computer as her coworker. But it was in fact her boss, with the salary about a coworker, who has already left the company.










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  • If you make changes, you should just update the question itself, not add an addendum. People can check the edit history to see what has been changed.
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  • Edited the question now so it's correct.
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  • She saw the salary on her bosses screen. And she decided to tell him that she saw it. I'm guessing she did this because that salary was higher than hers. Not smart.
    – Joe Strazzere
    16 mins ago










  • It was an emotional reaction. But the question is, what's the best course of action from this point forward.
    – Nickpick
    15 mins ago











  • @Nickpick - she needs to answer HR's question about her emotional reaction and deal with the consequences. Unless she is in a union. In that case she needs to talk only to her union rep and otherwise stay silent.
    – Joe Strazzere
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My friend is facing the following problem:



Her boss left the computer open and she then looked at his screen, where the salary of a cowworker at her level (who since has left the company) was displayed. As his salary was quite a lot higher than hers, she was shocked and told a coworked about it, and also to her boss who left the his computer open. In a pre-emptive strike he reported it to the management but says that she went through his email, essentially accessing his computer without consent.



Now human resources has written her an email, asking her to answer some questions until next week. Her answers would then lead to a decision whether disciplinary actions would follow.



The question are:



  • How did you find out about the salary?

  • Who did you share the information with?

  • Why did you think it is ok to discuss this with the colleagues you discussed it with?

  • What you expect to gain from discussing third-party salaries with colleagues

It is hardly illegal to look at somebody's screen. But is there an obligation not to disclose that information to colleagues? She is working for a company in the Uk.




Note: The original question falsly described the person with the unlocked computer as her coworker. But it was in fact her boss, with the salary about a coworker, who has already left the company.










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  • If you make changes, you should just update the question itself, not add an addendum. People can check the edit history to see what has been changed.
    – Erik
    19 mins ago










  • Edited the question now so it's correct.
    – Nickpick
    16 mins ago










  • She saw the salary on her bosses screen. And she decided to tell him that she saw it. I'm guessing she did this because that salary was higher than hers. Not smart.
    – Joe Strazzere
    16 mins ago










  • It was an emotional reaction. But the question is, what's the best course of action from this point forward.
    – Nickpick
    15 mins ago











  • @Nickpick - she needs to answer HR's question about her emotional reaction and deal with the consequences. Unless she is in a union. In that case she needs to talk only to her union rep and otherwise stay silent.
    – Joe Strazzere
    12 mins ago












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up vote
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My friend is facing the following problem:



Her boss left the computer open and she then looked at his screen, where the salary of a cowworker at her level (who since has left the company) was displayed. As his salary was quite a lot higher than hers, she was shocked and told a coworked about it, and also to her boss who left the his computer open. In a pre-emptive strike he reported it to the management but says that she went through his email, essentially accessing his computer without consent.



Now human resources has written her an email, asking her to answer some questions until next week. Her answers would then lead to a decision whether disciplinary actions would follow.



The question are:



  • How did you find out about the salary?

  • Who did you share the information with?

  • Why did you think it is ok to discuss this with the colleagues you discussed it with?

  • What you expect to gain from discussing third-party salaries with colleagues

It is hardly illegal to look at somebody's screen. But is there an obligation not to disclose that information to colleagues? She is working for a company in the Uk.




Note: The original question falsly described the person with the unlocked computer as her coworker. But it was in fact her boss, with the salary about a coworker, who has already left the company.










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My friend is facing the following problem:



Her boss left the computer open and she then looked at his screen, where the salary of a cowworker at her level (who since has left the company) was displayed. As his salary was quite a lot higher than hers, she was shocked and told a coworked about it, and also to her boss who left the his computer open. In a pre-emptive strike he reported it to the management but says that she went through his email, essentially accessing his computer without consent.



Now human resources has written her an email, asking her to answer some questions until next week. Her answers would then lead to a decision whether disciplinary actions would follow.



The question are:



  • How did you find out about the salary?

  • Who did you share the information with?

  • Why did you think it is ok to discuss this with the colleagues you discussed it with?

  • What you expect to gain from discussing third-party salaries with colleagues

It is hardly illegal to look at somebody's screen. But is there an obligation not to disclose that information to colleagues? She is working for a company in the Uk.




Note: The original question falsly described the person with the unlocked computer as her coworker. But it was in fact her boss, with the salary about a coworker, who has already left the company.







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  • If you make changes, you should just update the question itself, not add an addendum. People can check the edit history to see what has been changed.
    – Erik
    19 mins ago










  • Edited the question now so it's correct.
    – Nickpick
    16 mins ago










  • She saw the salary on her bosses screen. And she decided to tell him that she saw it. I'm guessing she did this because that salary was higher than hers. Not smart.
    – Joe Strazzere
    16 mins ago










  • It was an emotional reaction. But the question is, what's the best course of action from this point forward.
    – Nickpick
    15 mins ago











  • @Nickpick - she needs to answer HR's question about her emotional reaction and deal with the consequences. Unless she is in a union. In that case she needs to talk only to her union rep and otherwise stay silent.
    – Joe Strazzere
    12 mins ago
















  • If you make changes, you should just update the question itself, not add an addendum. People can check the edit history to see what has been changed.
    – Erik
    19 mins ago










  • Edited the question now so it's correct.
    – Nickpick
    16 mins ago










  • She saw the salary on her bosses screen. And she decided to tell him that she saw it. I'm guessing she did this because that salary was higher than hers. Not smart.
    – Joe Strazzere
    16 mins ago










  • It was an emotional reaction. But the question is, what's the best course of action from this point forward.
    – Nickpick
    15 mins ago











  • @Nickpick - she needs to answer HR's question about her emotional reaction and deal with the consequences. Unless she is in a union. In that case she needs to talk only to her union rep and otherwise stay silent.
    – Joe Strazzere
    12 mins ago















If you make changes, you should just update the question itself, not add an addendum. People can check the edit history to see what has been changed.
– Erik
19 mins ago




If you make changes, you should just update the question itself, not add an addendum. People can check the edit history to see what has been changed.
– Erik
19 mins ago












Edited the question now so it's correct.
– Nickpick
16 mins ago




Edited the question now so it's correct.
– Nickpick
16 mins ago












She saw the salary on her bosses screen. And she decided to tell him that she saw it. I'm guessing she did this because that salary was higher than hers. Not smart.
– Joe Strazzere
16 mins ago




She saw the salary on her bosses screen. And she decided to tell him that she saw it. I'm guessing she did this because that salary was higher than hers. Not smart.
– Joe Strazzere
16 mins ago












It was an emotional reaction. But the question is, what's the best course of action from this point forward.
– Nickpick
15 mins ago





It was an emotional reaction. But the question is, what's the best course of action from this point forward.
– Nickpick
15 mins ago













@Nickpick - she needs to answer HR's question about her emotional reaction and deal with the consequences. Unless she is in a union. In that case she needs to talk only to her union rep and otherwise stay silent.
– Joe Strazzere
12 mins ago




@Nickpick - she needs to answer HR's question about her emotional reaction and deal with the consequences. Unless she is in a union. In that case she needs to talk only to her union rep and otherwise stay silent.
– Joe Strazzere
12 mins ago










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TL;DR: It's not illegal, but it doesn't make it right.



Let me make something clear: Your friend messed up by discussing someone else's salary. That was unprofessional. Her colleague messed up as well by leaving her screen unlocked, and the snitch did the right thing for him by exercising CYA.



If I leave my computer screen open with my salary info, I'd argue it's essentially the same as telling you my salary without your asking. I'm not sure if this is covered under the Computer Misuse Act since your colleague didn't seek to obtain access but came across it.



As for the third and fourth questions, which I find leading and manipulative, your friend must look at her employment contract immediately. If there is an NDA or a provision prohibiting the disclosure of salary, she's in even deeper.



I would personally not answer these questions, and if pressed, would flip the question around. But that's me, not your friend, and it depends a lot on the way she discussed the salary with the other colleague, and her willingness to test her luck.



Discussing your salary is not illegal but may be covered under such a provision in your contract. HR doesn't want you talking about it at all costs, because it leads to the resentment and awkwardness your friend is now experiencing.






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  • "Discussing your salary is not illegal but may be covered under such a provision in your contract." - that's true. But it wasn't the friend's salary. It was someone else's salary. Still not illegal. Still may be covered in the company handbook.
    – Joe Strazzere
    24 mins ago






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    I don't think lying about how the information came out is "CYA", that's more like preparing your A for a whacking by HR when people find out.
    – Erik
    21 mins ago










  • the person who left the screen open was her boss. And the visible salary was of a co-worker at her level who has since left the company
    – Nickpick
    20 mins ago


















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It is hardly illegal to look at somebody's screen. But is there an
obligation not to disclose that information to colleagues?




It's not illegal to discuss pay with others.



That said, many folks consider their salary to be personal information and would object to have their personal information shared without their permission. And many folks would consider sharing any information you saw on your boss's screen to be less than a smart thing to do.



Your friend decided to look at her boss's screen. When she did so, she saw personal information. She then decided to share that information without permission.



Your friend won't be arrested, since she didn't break any laws. Still, she had to know what she was doing wouldn't be received well. Depending on what the company handbook says, she may be in for a rebuke or for disciplinary action. If she is in a union, she should be talking with her union rep now.



She should just answer HR's questions honestly. Then deal with any consequences and learn what she should do going forward.






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  • added a slight correction to the situation: The person who left the screen open was her boss. And the visible salary was of a co-worker at her level who has since left the company.
    – Nickpick
    20 mins ago











  • @Nickpick - did you just remember that this was a boss rather than just a coworker? She thought it was okay to peek at her bosses screen when he was away? And she thought it was okay to share what was found? Yikes!
    – Joe Strazzere
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TL;DR: It's not illegal, but it doesn't make it right.



Let me make something clear: Your friend messed up by discussing someone else's salary. That was unprofessional. Her colleague messed up as well by leaving her screen unlocked, and the snitch did the right thing for him by exercising CYA.



If I leave my computer screen open with my salary info, I'd argue it's essentially the same as telling you my salary without your asking. I'm not sure if this is covered under the Computer Misuse Act since your colleague didn't seek to obtain access but came across it.



As for the third and fourth questions, which I find leading and manipulative, your friend must look at her employment contract immediately. If there is an NDA or a provision prohibiting the disclosure of salary, she's in even deeper.



I would personally not answer these questions, and if pressed, would flip the question around. But that's me, not your friend, and it depends a lot on the way she discussed the salary with the other colleague, and her willingness to test her luck.



Discussing your salary is not illegal but may be covered under such a provision in your contract. HR doesn't want you talking about it at all costs, because it leads to the resentment and awkwardness your friend is now experiencing.






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  • "Discussing your salary is not illegal but may be covered under such a provision in your contract." - that's true. But it wasn't the friend's salary. It was someone else's salary. Still not illegal. Still may be covered in the company handbook.
    – Joe Strazzere
    24 mins ago






  • 1




    I don't think lying about how the information came out is "CYA", that's more like preparing your A for a whacking by HR when people find out.
    – Erik
    21 mins ago










  • the person who left the screen open was her boss. And the visible salary was of a co-worker at her level who has since left the company
    – Nickpick
    20 mins ago















up vote
1
down vote













TL;DR: It's not illegal, but it doesn't make it right.



Let me make something clear: Your friend messed up by discussing someone else's salary. That was unprofessional. Her colleague messed up as well by leaving her screen unlocked, and the snitch did the right thing for him by exercising CYA.



If I leave my computer screen open with my salary info, I'd argue it's essentially the same as telling you my salary without your asking. I'm not sure if this is covered under the Computer Misuse Act since your colleague didn't seek to obtain access but came across it.



As for the third and fourth questions, which I find leading and manipulative, your friend must look at her employment contract immediately. If there is an NDA or a provision prohibiting the disclosure of salary, she's in even deeper.



I would personally not answer these questions, and if pressed, would flip the question around. But that's me, not your friend, and it depends a lot on the way she discussed the salary with the other colleague, and her willingness to test her luck.



Discussing your salary is not illegal but may be covered under such a provision in your contract. HR doesn't want you talking about it at all costs, because it leads to the resentment and awkwardness your friend is now experiencing.






share|improve this answer




















  • "Discussing your salary is not illegal but may be covered under such a provision in your contract." - that's true. But it wasn't the friend's salary. It was someone else's salary. Still not illegal. Still may be covered in the company handbook.
    – Joe Strazzere
    24 mins ago






  • 1




    I don't think lying about how the information came out is "CYA", that's more like preparing your A for a whacking by HR when people find out.
    – Erik
    21 mins ago










  • the person who left the screen open was her boss. And the visible salary was of a co-worker at her level who has since left the company
    – Nickpick
    20 mins ago













up vote
1
down vote










up vote
1
down vote









TL;DR: It's not illegal, but it doesn't make it right.



Let me make something clear: Your friend messed up by discussing someone else's salary. That was unprofessional. Her colleague messed up as well by leaving her screen unlocked, and the snitch did the right thing for him by exercising CYA.



If I leave my computer screen open with my salary info, I'd argue it's essentially the same as telling you my salary without your asking. I'm not sure if this is covered under the Computer Misuse Act since your colleague didn't seek to obtain access but came across it.



As for the third and fourth questions, which I find leading and manipulative, your friend must look at her employment contract immediately. If there is an NDA or a provision prohibiting the disclosure of salary, she's in even deeper.



I would personally not answer these questions, and if pressed, would flip the question around. But that's me, not your friend, and it depends a lot on the way she discussed the salary with the other colleague, and her willingness to test her luck.



Discussing your salary is not illegal but may be covered under such a provision in your contract. HR doesn't want you talking about it at all costs, because it leads to the resentment and awkwardness your friend is now experiencing.






share|improve this answer












TL;DR: It's not illegal, but it doesn't make it right.



Let me make something clear: Your friend messed up by discussing someone else's salary. That was unprofessional. Her colleague messed up as well by leaving her screen unlocked, and the snitch did the right thing for him by exercising CYA.



If I leave my computer screen open with my salary info, I'd argue it's essentially the same as telling you my salary without your asking. I'm not sure if this is covered under the Computer Misuse Act since your colleague didn't seek to obtain access but came across it.



As for the third and fourth questions, which I find leading and manipulative, your friend must look at her employment contract immediately. If there is an NDA or a provision prohibiting the disclosure of salary, she's in even deeper.



I would personally not answer these questions, and if pressed, would flip the question around. But that's me, not your friend, and it depends a lot on the way she discussed the salary with the other colleague, and her willingness to test her luck.



Discussing your salary is not illegal but may be covered under such a provision in your contract. HR doesn't want you talking about it at all costs, because it leads to the resentment and awkwardness your friend is now experiencing.







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  • "Discussing your salary is not illegal but may be covered under such a provision in your contract." - that's true. But it wasn't the friend's salary. It was someone else's salary. Still not illegal. Still may be covered in the company handbook.
    – Joe Strazzere
    24 mins ago






  • 1




    I don't think lying about how the information came out is "CYA", that's more like preparing your A for a whacking by HR when people find out.
    – Erik
    21 mins ago










  • the person who left the screen open was her boss. And the visible salary was of a co-worker at her level who has since left the company
    – Nickpick
    20 mins ago

















  • "Discussing your salary is not illegal but may be covered under such a provision in your contract." - that's true. But it wasn't the friend's salary. It was someone else's salary. Still not illegal. Still may be covered in the company handbook.
    – Joe Strazzere
    24 mins ago






  • 1




    I don't think lying about how the information came out is "CYA", that's more like preparing your A for a whacking by HR when people find out.
    – Erik
    21 mins ago










  • the person who left the screen open was her boss. And the visible salary was of a co-worker at her level who has since left the company
    – Nickpick
    20 mins ago
















"Discussing your salary is not illegal but may be covered under such a provision in your contract." - that's true. But it wasn't the friend's salary. It was someone else's salary. Still not illegal. Still may be covered in the company handbook.
– Joe Strazzere
24 mins ago




"Discussing your salary is not illegal but may be covered under such a provision in your contract." - that's true. But it wasn't the friend's salary. It was someone else's salary. Still not illegal. Still may be covered in the company handbook.
– Joe Strazzere
24 mins ago




1




1




I don't think lying about how the information came out is "CYA", that's more like preparing your A for a whacking by HR when people find out.
– Erik
21 mins ago




I don't think lying about how the information came out is "CYA", that's more like preparing your A for a whacking by HR when people find out.
– Erik
21 mins ago












the person who left the screen open was her boss. And the visible salary was of a co-worker at her level who has since left the company
– Nickpick
20 mins ago





the person who left the screen open was her boss. And the visible salary was of a co-worker at her level who has since left the company
– Nickpick
20 mins ago













up vote
1
down vote














It is hardly illegal to look at somebody's screen. But is there an
obligation not to disclose that information to colleagues?




It's not illegal to discuss pay with others.



That said, many folks consider their salary to be personal information and would object to have their personal information shared without their permission. And many folks would consider sharing any information you saw on your boss's screen to be less than a smart thing to do.



Your friend decided to look at her boss's screen. When she did so, she saw personal information. She then decided to share that information without permission.



Your friend won't be arrested, since she didn't break any laws. Still, she had to know what she was doing wouldn't be received well. Depending on what the company handbook says, she may be in for a rebuke or for disciplinary action. If she is in a union, she should be talking with her union rep now.



She should just answer HR's questions honestly. Then deal with any consequences and learn what she should do going forward.






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  • added a slight correction to the situation: The person who left the screen open was her boss. And the visible salary was of a co-worker at her level who has since left the company.
    – Nickpick
    20 mins ago











  • @Nickpick - did you just remember that this was a boss rather than just a coworker? She thought it was okay to peek at her bosses screen when he was away? And she thought it was okay to share what was found? Yikes!
    – Joe Strazzere
    13 mins ago














up vote
1
down vote














It is hardly illegal to look at somebody's screen. But is there an
obligation not to disclose that information to colleagues?




It's not illegal to discuss pay with others.



That said, many folks consider their salary to be personal information and would object to have their personal information shared without their permission. And many folks would consider sharing any information you saw on your boss's screen to be less than a smart thing to do.



Your friend decided to look at her boss's screen. When she did so, she saw personal information. She then decided to share that information without permission.



Your friend won't be arrested, since she didn't break any laws. Still, she had to know what she was doing wouldn't be received well. Depending on what the company handbook says, she may be in for a rebuke or for disciplinary action. If she is in a union, she should be talking with her union rep now.



She should just answer HR's questions honestly. Then deal with any consequences and learn what she should do going forward.






share|improve this answer






















  • added a slight correction to the situation: The person who left the screen open was her boss. And the visible salary was of a co-worker at her level who has since left the company.
    – Nickpick
    20 mins ago











  • @Nickpick - did you just remember that this was a boss rather than just a coworker? She thought it was okay to peek at her bosses screen when he was away? And she thought it was okay to share what was found? Yikes!
    – Joe Strazzere
    13 mins ago












up vote
1
down vote










up vote
1
down vote










It is hardly illegal to look at somebody's screen. But is there an
obligation not to disclose that information to colleagues?




It's not illegal to discuss pay with others.



That said, many folks consider their salary to be personal information and would object to have their personal information shared without their permission. And many folks would consider sharing any information you saw on your boss's screen to be less than a smart thing to do.



Your friend decided to look at her boss's screen. When she did so, she saw personal information. She then decided to share that information without permission.



Your friend won't be arrested, since she didn't break any laws. Still, she had to know what she was doing wouldn't be received well. Depending on what the company handbook says, she may be in for a rebuke or for disciplinary action. If she is in a union, she should be talking with her union rep now.



She should just answer HR's questions honestly. Then deal with any consequences and learn what she should do going forward.






share|improve this answer















It is hardly illegal to look at somebody's screen. But is there an
obligation not to disclose that information to colleagues?




It's not illegal to discuss pay with others.



That said, many folks consider their salary to be personal information and would object to have their personal information shared without their permission. And many folks would consider sharing any information you saw on your boss's screen to be less than a smart thing to do.



Your friend decided to look at her boss's screen. When she did so, she saw personal information. She then decided to share that information without permission.



Your friend won't be arrested, since she didn't break any laws. Still, she had to know what she was doing wouldn't be received well. Depending on what the company handbook says, she may be in for a rebuke or for disciplinary action. If she is in a union, she should be talking with her union rep now.



She should just answer HR's questions honestly. Then deal with any consequences and learn what she should do going forward.







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  • added a slight correction to the situation: The person who left the screen open was her boss. And the visible salary was of a co-worker at her level who has since left the company.
    – Nickpick
    20 mins ago











  • @Nickpick - did you just remember that this was a boss rather than just a coworker? She thought it was okay to peek at her bosses screen when he was away? And she thought it was okay to share what was found? Yikes!
    – Joe Strazzere
    13 mins ago
















  • added a slight correction to the situation: The person who left the screen open was her boss. And the visible salary was of a co-worker at her level who has since left the company.
    – Nickpick
    20 mins ago











  • @Nickpick - did you just remember that this was a boss rather than just a coworker? She thought it was okay to peek at her bosses screen when he was away? And she thought it was okay to share what was found? Yikes!
    – Joe Strazzere
    13 mins ago















added a slight correction to the situation: The person who left the screen open was her boss. And the visible salary was of a co-worker at her level who has since left the company.
– Nickpick
20 mins ago





added a slight correction to the situation: The person who left the screen open was her boss. And the visible salary was of a co-worker at her level who has since left the company.
– Nickpick
20 mins ago













@Nickpick - did you just remember that this was a boss rather than just a coworker? She thought it was okay to peek at her bosses screen when he was away? And she thought it was okay to share what was found? Yikes!
– Joe Strazzere
13 mins ago




@Nickpick - did you just remember that this was a boss rather than just a coworker? She thought it was okay to peek at her bosses screen when he was away? And she thought it was okay to share what was found? Yikes!
– Joe Strazzere
13 mins ago










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