Why use ultra-wide with short focus?

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I have a Samyang F/2.0 12 mm for the Sony E Mount, so the 35-mm equivalent focal length is 18 mm (crop sensor 1.5×). I use it mainly for landscapes and architecture, in both cases focussed on infinity. I sometimes use it in small indoor spaces, with a focus perhaps down to 1–2 metre at the lowest. But it can focus on distances as small as 20 cm. For such a close-up, I would use my zoomlens (18–200 mm). Under what circumstances would one use a wide angle lens with a focus less than (say) 50 cm?










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    When you want a wider field of view than your other lenses are provide? I don't understand the question.
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    Take a photo of an object at 20cm distance using each of the two lenses you mentioned. Come back here and update this question with the 2 photos. It will help to illustrate your question, and offer something specific for answerers to refer to.
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  • By the way, focusing on infinity is probably not optimal. You should focus on whatever you are taking a photo of. It is not necessarily at infinity (in the photographic sense).
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  • @osullic At f/4 this lens has a hyperfocal distance of 1.81m and a near limit of 0.91m. Focussing at infinity should work pretty well if you are not getting really close to the subject.
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  • @Orbit depends. if you want to get close-to-everything in focus, you should use the hyperfocal distance, not infinity. Or so I would think.
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I have a Samyang F/2.0 12 mm for the Sony E Mount, so the 35-mm equivalent focal length is 18 mm (crop sensor 1.5×). I use it mainly for landscapes and architecture, in both cases focussed on infinity. I sometimes use it in small indoor spaces, with a focus perhaps down to 1–2 metre at the lowest. But it can focus on distances as small as 20 cm. For such a close-up, I would use my zoomlens (18–200 mm). Under what circumstances would one use a wide angle lens with a focus less than (say) 50 cm?










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    When you want a wider field of view than your other lenses are provide? I don't understand the question.
    – Philip Kendall
    4 hours ago






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    Take a photo of an object at 20cm distance using each of the two lenses you mentioned. Come back here and update this question with the 2 photos. It will help to illustrate your question, and offer something specific for answerers to refer to.
    – osullic
    2 hours ago











  • By the way, focusing on infinity is probably not optimal. You should focus on whatever you are taking a photo of. It is not necessarily at infinity (in the photographic sense).
    – osullic
    2 hours ago











  • @osullic At f/4 this lens has a hyperfocal distance of 1.81m and a near limit of 0.91m. Focussing at infinity should work pretty well if you are not getting really close to the subject.
    – Orbit
    2 hours ago










  • @Orbit depends. if you want to get close-to-everything in focus, you should use the hyperfocal distance, not infinity. Or so I would think.
    – flolilolilo
    1 hour ago












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I have a Samyang F/2.0 12 mm for the Sony E Mount, so the 35-mm equivalent focal length is 18 mm (crop sensor 1.5×). I use it mainly for landscapes and architecture, in both cases focussed on infinity. I sometimes use it in small indoor spaces, with a focus perhaps down to 1–2 metre at the lowest. But it can focus on distances as small as 20 cm. For such a close-up, I would use my zoomlens (18–200 mm). Under what circumstances would one use a wide angle lens with a focus less than (say) 50 cm?










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I have a Samyang F/2.0 12 mm for the Sony E Mount, so the 35-mm equivalent focal length is 18 mm (crop sensor 1.5×). I use it mainly for landscapes and architecture, in both cases focussed on infinity. I sometimes use it in small indoor spaces, with a focus perhaps down to 1–2 metre at the lowest. But it can focus on distances as small as 20 cm. For such a close-up, I would use my zoomlens (18–200 mm). Under what circumstances would one use a wide angle lens with a focus less than (say) 50 cm?







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    When you want a wider field of view than your other lenses are provide? I don't understand the question.
    – Philip Kendall
    4 hours ago






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    Take a photo of an object at 20cm distance using each of the two lenses you mentioned. Come back here and update this question with the 2 photos. It will help to illustrate your question, and offer something specific for answerers to refer to.
    – osullic
    2 hours ago











  • By the way, focusing on infinity is probably not optimal. You should focus on whatever you are taking a photo of. It is not necessarily at infinity (in the photographic sense).
    – osullic
    2 hours ago











  • @osullic At f/4 this lens has a hyperfocal distance of 1.81m and a near limit of 0.91m. Focussing at infinity should work pretty well if you are not getting really close to the subject.
    – Orbit
    2 hours ago










  • @Orbit depends. if you want to get close-to-everything in focus, you should use the hyperfocal distance, not infinity. Or so I would think.
    – flolilolilo
    1 hour ago












  • 1




    When you want a wider field of view than your other lenses are provide? I don't understand the question.
    – Philip Kendall
    4 hours ago






  • 1




    Take a photo of an object at 20cm distance using each of the two lenses you mentioned. Come back here and update this question with the 2 photos. It will help to illustrate your question, and offer something specific for answerers to refer to.
    – osullic
    2 hours ago











  • By the way, focusing on infinity is probably not optimal. You should focus on whatever you are taking a photo of. It is not necessarily at infinity (in the photographic sense).
    – osullic
    2 hours ago











  • @osullic At f/4 this lens has a hyperfocal distance of 1.81m and a near limit of 0.91m. Focussing at infinity should work pretty well if you are not getting really close to the subject.
    – Orbit
    2 hours ago










  • @Orbit depends. if you want to get close-to-everything in focus, you should use the hyperfocal distance, not infinity. Or so I would think.
    – flolilolilo
    1 hour ago







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When you want a wider field of view than your other lenses are provide? I don't understand the question.
– Philip Kendall
4 hours ago




When you want a wider field of view than your other lenses are provide? I don't understand the question.
– Philip Kendall
4 hours ago




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Take a photo of an object at 20cm distance using each of the two lenses you mentioned. Come back here and update this question with the 2 photos. It will help to illustrate your question, and offer something specific for answerers to refer to.
– osullic
2 hours ago





Take a photo of an object at 20cm distance using each of the two lenses you mentioned. Come back here and update this question with the 2 photos. It will help to illustrate your question, and offer something specific for answerers to refer to.
– osullic
2 hours ago













By the way, focusing on infinity is probably not optimal. You should focus on whatever you are taking a photo of. It is not necessarily at infinity (in the photographic sense).
– osullic
2 hours ago





By the way, focusing on infinity is probably not optimal. You should focus on whatever you are taking a photo of. It is not necessarily at infinity (in the photographic sense).
– osullic
2 hours ago













@osullic At f/4 this lens has a hyperfocal distance of 1.81m and a near limit of 0.91m. Focussing at infinity should work pretty well if you are not getting really close to the subject.
– Orbit
2 hours ago




@osullic At f/4 this lens has a hyperfocal distance of 1.81m and a near limit of 0.91m. Focussing at infinity should work pretty well if you are not getting really close to the subject.
– Orbit
2 hours ago












@Orbit depends. if you want to get close-to-everything in focus, you should use the hyperfocal distance, not infinity. Or so I would think.
– flolilolilo
1 hour ago




@Orbit depends. if you want to get close-to-everything in focus, you should use the hyperfocal distance, not infinity. Or so I would think.
– flolilolilo
1 hour ago










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The distortion of wide angle lenses allows you to magnify the subject relative to the rest of the frame, leading to dramatic or otherwise interesting compositions.



Doing a close-up allows you to use perspective to further exaggerate the relative sizes. The wide angle also allows you to include more context than a telephoto lens, especially at close range to the subject.






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    A very good way of using an ultra wide lens is to get really close and get something right in the viewers face. Using a wide angle lens to get everything in the frame often leads to very boring pictures because the viewer has no idea what the photo is about.



    Ken Rockwell has written a very interesting article about his:
    https://kenrockwell.com/tech/how-to-use-ultra-wide-lenses.htm



    To get a close-up of something with a wide angle lens, you need to get extremely close. Everything seems about 3 times further away in the picture due to the focal length, so you need to get much closer than 50 cm to get something really close.



    You would probably wish your lens could focus a bit closer than 20 cm if you want to make a picture like this:
    https://flic.kr/p/3Paa94






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      The distortion of wide angle lenses allows you to magnify the subject relative to the rest of the frame, leading to dramatic or otherwise interesting compositions.



      Doing a close-up allows you to use perspective to further exaggerate the relative sizes. The wide angle also allows you to include more context than a telephoto lens, especially at close range to the subject.






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        The distortion of wide angle lenses allows you to magnify the subject relative to the rest of the frame, leading to dramatic or otherwise interesting compositions.



        Doing a close-up allows you to use perspective to further exaggerate the relative sizes. The wide angle also allows you to include more context than a telephoto lens, especially at close range to the subject.






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          The distortion of wide angle lenses allows you to magnify the subject relative to the rest of the frame, leading to dramatic or otherwise interesting compositions.



          Doing a close-up allows you to use perspective to further exaggerate the relative sizes. The wide angle also allows you to include more context than a telephoto lens, especially at close range to the subject.






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          The distortion of wide angle lenses allows you to magnify the subject relative to the rest of the frame, leading to dramatic or otherwise interesting compositions.



          Doing a close-up allows you to use perspective to further exaggerate the relative sizes. The wide angle also allows you to include more context than a telephoto lens, especially at close range to the subject.







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              A very good way of using an ultra wide lens is to get really close and get something right in the viewers face. Using a wide angle lens to get everything in the frame often leads to very boring pictures because the viewer has no idea what the photo is about.



              Ken Rockwell has written a very interesting article about his:
              https://kenrockwell.com/tech/how-to-use-ultra-wide-lenses.htm



              To get a close-up of something with a wide angle lens, you need to get extremely close. Everything seems about 3 times further away in the picture due to the focal length, so you need to get much closer than 50 cm to get something really close.



              You would probably wish your lens could focus a bit closer than 20 cm if you want to make a picture like this:
              https://flic.kr/p/3Paa94






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                A very good way of using an ultra wide lens is to get really close and get something right in the viewers face. Using a wide angle lens to get everything in the frame often leads to very boring pictures because the viewer has no idea what the photo is about.



                Ken Rockwell has written a very interesting article about his:
                https://kenrockwell.com/tech/how-to-use-ultra-wide-lenses.htm



                To get a close-up of something with a wide angle lens, you need to get extremely close. Everything seems about 3 times further away in the picture due to the focal length, so you need to get much closer than 50 cm to get something really close.



                You would probably wish your lens could focus a bit closer than 20 cm if you want to make a picture like this:
                https://flic.kr/p/3Paa94






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                  A very good way of using an ultra wide lens is to get really close and get something right in the viewers face. Using a wide angle lens to get everything in the frame often leads to very boring pictures because the viewer has no idea what the photo is about.



                  Ken Rockwell has written a very interesting article about his:
                  https://kenrockwell.com/tech/how-to-use-ultra-wide-lenses.htm



                  To get a close-up of something with a wide angle lens, you need to get extremely close. Everything seems about 3 times further away in the picture due to the focal length, so you need to get much closer than 50 cm to get something really close.



                  You would probably wish your lens could focus a bit closer than 20 cm if you want to make a picture like this:
                  https://flic.kr/p/3Paa94






                  share|improve this answer














                  A very good way of using an ultra wide lens is to get really close and get something right in the viewers face. Using a wide angle lens to get everything in the frame often leads to very boring pictures because the viewer has no idea what the photo is about.



                  Ken Rockwell has written a very interesting article about his:
                  https://kenrockwell.com/tech/how-to-use-ultra-wide-lenses.htm



                  To get a close-up of something with a wide angle lens, you need to get extremely close. Everything seems about 3 times further away in the picture due to the focal length, so you need to get much closer than 50 cm to get something really close.



                  You would probably wish your lens could focus a bit closer than 20 cm if you want to make a picture like this:
                  https://flic.kr/p/3Paa94







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