Historical or mythological Monster Hunter organization

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My search for "Monster Hunter" invariably gives me a ton of results related to the videogame and this is making my research a bit tricky.



What I'm looking for is any instance in history of a real organization that could be, even loosely, considered dedicated to "monster" hunting.



Alternatively I'd settle for a mythological one (from anywhere in the world).



A good match is, of course, The Inquisition, but i already used it as a model for a different part of the setting and I'd like to take from somewhere else.



I know some mythological figures (e.g.: from here) that were dedicated to hunting monsters but they did not have anything close to an actual organization as far as i know.










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  • Do Perseus, Theseus and Hercules count as "organizations"? They sort of specialized in hunting monsters. Ah, and the Holy Inquisition most definitely did not hunt monsters; it fought against public heresy.
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  • @AlexP Redundant, as already referenced in the OP's link 'from here'.
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My search for "Monster Hunter" invariably gives me a ton of results related to the videogame and this is making my research a bit tricky.



What I'm looking for is any instance in history of a real organization that could be, even loosely, considered dedicated to "monster" hunting.



Alternatively I'd settle for a mythological one (from anywhere in the world).



A good match is, of course, The Inquisition, but i already used it as a model for a different part of the setting and I'd like to take from somewhere else.



I know some mythological figures (e.g.: from here) that were dedicated to hunting monsters but they did not have anything close to an actual organization as far as i know.










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  • Do Perseus, Theseus and Hercules count as "organizations"? They sort of specialized in hunting monsters. Ah, and the Holy Inquisition most definitely did not hunt monsters; it fought against public heresy.
    – AlexP
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  • @AlexP Redundant, as already referenced in the OP's link 'from here'.
    – Justin Thyme
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My search for "Monster Hunter" invariably gives me a ton of results related to the videogame and this is making my research a bit tricky.



What I'm looking for is any instance in history of a real organization that could be, even loosely, considered dedicated to "monster" hunting.



Alternatively I'd settle for a mythological one (from anywhere in the world).



A good match is, of course, The Inquisition, but i already used it as a model for a different part of the setting and I'd like to take from somewhere else.



I know some mythological figures (e.g.: from here) that were dedicated to hunting monsters but they did not have anything close to an actual organization as far as i know.










share|improve this question















My search for "Monster Hunter" invariably gives me a ton of results related to the videogame and this is making my research a bit tricky.



What I'm looking for is any instance in history of a real organization that could be, even loosely, considered dedicated to "monster" hunting.



Alternatively I'd settle for a mythological one (from anywhere in the world).



A good match is, of course, The Inquisition, but i already used it as a model for a different part of the setting and I'd like to take from somewhere else.



I know some mythological figures (e.g.: from here) that were dedicated to hunting monsters but they did not have anything close to an actual organization as far as i know.







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  • Do Perseus, Theseus and Hercules count as "organizations"? They sort of specialized in hunting monsters. Ah, and the Holy Inquisition most definitely did not hunt monsters; it fought against public heresy.
    – AlexP
    3 hours ago











  • @AlexP Redundant, as already referenced in the OP's link 'from here'.
    – Justin Thyme
    2 hours ago
















  • Do Perseus, Theseus and Hercules count as "organizations"? They sort of specialized in hunting monsters. Ah, and the Holy Inquisition most definitely did not hunt monsters; it fought against public heresy.
    – AlexP
    3 hours ago











  • @AlexP Redundant, as already referenced in the OP's link 'from here'.
    – Justin Thyme
    2 hours ago















Do Perseus, Theseus and Hercules count as "organizations"? They sort of specialized in hunting monsters. Ah, and the Holy Inquisition most definitely did not hunt monsters; it fought against public heresy.
– AlexP
3 hours ago





Do Perseus, Theseus and Hercules count as "organizations"? They sort of specialized in hunting monsters. Ah, and the Holy Inquisition most definitely did not hunt monsters; it fought against public heresy.
– AlexP
3 hours ago













@AlexP Redundant, as already referenced in the OP's link 'from here'.
– Justin Thyme
2 hours ago




@AlexP Redundant, as already referenced in the OP's link 'from here'.
– Justin Thyme
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Mythological creatures were never such a real threat to the world to have somebody set up an organization chasing them. Maybe some individual person was fool enough to embark in some kind of search



Considering the etymology of the word




Monster derives from the Latin monstrum, itself derived ultimately from the verb moneo ("to remind, warn, instruct, or foretell"), and denotes anything "strange or singular, contrary to the usual course of nature, by which the gods give notice of evil," "a strange, unnatural, hideous person, animal, or thing," or any "monstrous or unusual thing, circumstance, or adventure."




If you extend the concept of monster to anything bizarre or extraordinary, the closest things that I can relate to a (fictional) organization searching for a monstrum would be:



  • the Argonauts (mythological on their own)

  • King Arthur and his companions chasing the Holy Grail (but in this case it was not a notice of evil)

  • Baudolino and his comrades in Eco's book Baudolino (fictional characters)

  • the Spanish Conquistadores looking for Eldorado (historical figures)

  • people searching for Loch Ness, Big Foot and Yeti (not sure if they qualify as organization, but definitely more than single person)





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  • Jason and the Argonauts could conceivably be considered an 'organization', as they were a common group of 'heroes' on a common quest. They weren't technically hunting monsters as much as they were on a quest, but they did engage 'monsters'.
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It depends on what you mean by 'monsters', but by positing the Inquisitions as an example I presume you mean 'hunting real humans that are made out to be monsters'.



If this is the scenario, and you are willing to go with modern history, then McCarthy and his hunt for 'communists' would certainly qualify. It definitely qualifies as a modern day 'Inquisition'. McCarthy's forces were clearly well organized and followed a command structure.



A bit further back in history, is the concerted American campaign to completely eradicate the American Indigenous populations. They were portrayed as evil, menacing non-human monsters that had to be eliminated for the welfare of Americans. In this case, the organized body would be the American military backed by Congress.



If you add the term 'organizations' to 'monster hunters' in a google search, you get some pretty good hits, including




The Monster Hunters are a fictional group appearing in American comic
books published by Marvel Comics. This group exists in Marvel's shared
universe, known as the Marvel Universe.



The team was created as a retcon to explain some events in the history
of the Marvel Universe that were no longer plausible due to previous
retcons. Their adventures are set during the late 1940s and 50's, a
time when (in real life) Marvel/Atlas was mostly printing stories
about strange monsters and alien invaders.




and an entire book (actually, a quite humorous fictional Novel) about contemporary monster hunting organizations



Monster Hunter Siege






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  • The show Criminal Minds depicts an organization dedicated to hunting down and capturing real human monsters - depraved serial killers.
    – Willk
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Warning: Not exactly monster hunters historically speaking



Something like the Frumentarii could work. Basically the Frumentarii were wheat collectors for the Roman Empire who eventually became spy masters as well as the secret police of the Empire.



Now what the Romans did was pretty ingenious. Instead of making a new burea within the Roman government they turned wheat collectors into spy masters. This gave the Romans a vast ready made intelligence service and one that was already spread across the Empire.



Now for the monster hunting. Some Frumentarii where tied to the legions because of their knowledge of terrain and the provinces themselves. While not exactly assassin's you could easily have a organization like the Frumentarii have a intelligence service, but also assassins or in your case monster hunters. If they are tied to the army they could also have agents that try to recruit members from the military.






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    Try a search for cryptozoology.
    One of the best known probably the now defunct International Society for Cryptozoology. For fictional references try the Etheric Explorers Club (Paul Marlow), the Explorers Club graphic novels and the work of James Board - Pinterest is a good start. Also fictional the Laundry Files by Charles Stross.






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      Mythological creatures were never such a real threat to the world to have somebody set up an organization chasing them. Maybe some individual person was fool enough to embark in some kind of search



      Considering the etymology of the word




      Monster derives from the Latin monstrum, itself derived ultimately from the verb moneo ("to remind, warn, instruct, or foretell"), and denotes anything "strange or singular, contrary to the usual course of nature, by which the gods give notice of evil," "a strange, unnatural, hideous person, animal, or thing," or any "monstrous or unusual thing, circumstance, or adventure."




      If you extend the concept of monster to anything bizarre or extraordinary, the closest things that I can relate to a (fictional) organization searching for a monstrum would be:



      • the Argonauts (mythological on their own)

      • King Arthur and his companions chasing the Holy Grail (but in this case it was not a notice of evil)

      • Baudolino and his comrades in Eco's book Baudolino (fictional characters)

      • the Spanish Conquistadores looking for Eldorado (historical figures)

      • people searching for Loch Ness, Big Foot and Yeti (not sure if they qualify as organization, but definitely more than single person)





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      • Jason and the Argonauts could conceivably be considered an 'organization', as they were a common group of 'heroes' on a common quest. They weren't technically hunting monsters as much as they were on a quest, but they did engage 'monsters'.
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      Mythological creatures were never such a real threat to the world to have somebody set up an organization chasing them. Maybe some individual person was fool enough to embark in some kind of search



      Considering the etymology of the word




      Monster derives from the Latin monstrum, itself derived ultimately from the verb moneo ("to remind, warn, instruct, or foretell"), and denotes anything "strange or singular, contrary to the usual course of nature, by which the gods give notice of evil," "a strange, unnatural, hideous person, animal, or thing," or any "monstrous or unusual thing, circumstance, or adventure."




      If you extend the concept of monster to anything bizarre or extraordinary, the closest things that I can relate to a (fictional) organization searching for a monstrum would be:



      • the Argonauts (mythological on their own)

      • King Arthur and his companions chasing the Holy Grail (but in this case it was not a notice of evil)

      • Baudolino and his comrades in Eco's book Baudolino (fictional characters)

      • the Spanish Conquistadores looking for Eldorado (historical figures)

      • people searching for Loch Ness, Big Foot and Yeti (not sure if they qualify as organization, but definitely more than single person)





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      • Jason and the Argonauts could conceivably be considered an 'organization', as they were a common group of 'heroes' on a common quest. They weren't technically hunting monsters as much as they were on a quest, but they did engage 'monsters'.
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      Mythological creatures were never such a real threat to the world to have somebody set up an organization chasing them. Maybe some individual person was fool enough to embark in some kind of search



      Considering the etymology of the word




      Monster derives from the Latin monstrum, itself derived ultimately from the verb moneo ("to remind, warn, instruct, or foretell"), and denotes anything "strange or singular, contrary to the usual course of nature, by which the gods give notice of evil," "a strange, unnatural, hideous person, animal, or thing," or any "monstrous or unusual thing, circumstance, or adventure."




      If you extend the concept of monster to anything bizarre or extraordinary, the closest things that I can relate to a (fictional) organization searching for a monstrum would be:



      • the Argonauts (mythological on their own)

      • King Arthur and his companions chasing the Holy Grail (but in this case it was not a notice of evil)

      • Baudolino and his comrades in Eco's book Baudolino (fictional characters)

      • the Spanish Conquistadores looking for Eldorado (historical figures)

      • people searching for Loch Ness, Big Foot and Yeti (not sure if they qualify as organization, but definitely more than single person)





      share|improve this answer














      Mythological creatures were never such a real threat to the world to have somebody set up an organization chasing them. Maybe some individual person was fool enough to embark in some kind of search



      Considering the etymology of the word




      Monster derives from the Latin monstrum, itself derived ultimately from the verb moneo ("to remind, warn, instruct, or foretell"), and denotes anything "strange or singular, contrary to the usual course of nature, by which the gods give notice of evil," "a strange, unnatural, hideous person, animal, or thing," or any "monstrous or unusual thing, circumstance, or adventure."




      If you extend the concept of monster to anything bizarre or extraordinary, the closest things that I can relate to a (fictional) organization searching for a monstrum would be:



      • the Argonauts (mythological on their own)

      • King Arthur and his companions chasing the Holy Grail (but in this case it was not a notice of evil)

      • Baudolino and his comrades in Eco's book Baudolino (fictional characters)

      • the Spanish Conquistadores looking for Eldorado (historical figures)

      • people searching for Loch Ness, Big Foot and Yeti (not sure if they qualify as organization, but definitely more than single person)






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      • Jason and the Argonauts could conceivably be considered an 'organization', as they were a common group of 'heroes' on a common quest. They weren't technically hunting monsters as much as they were on a quest, but they did engage 'monsters'.
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      • Jason and the Argonauts could conceivably be considered an 'organization', as they were a common group of 'heroes' on a common quest. They weren't technically hunting monsters as much as they were on a quest, but they did engage 'monsters'.
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      Jason and the Argonauts could conceivably be considered an 'organization', as they were a common group of 'heroes' on a common quest. They weren't technically hunting monsters as much as they were on a quest, but they did engage 'monsters'.
      – Justin Thyme
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      Jason and the Argonauts could conceivably be considered an 'organization', as they were a common group of 'heroes' on a common quest. They weren't technically hunting monsters as much as they were on a quest, but they did engage 'monsters'.
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      It depends on what you mean by 'monsters', but by positing the Inquisitions as an example I presume you mean 'hunting real humans that are made out to be monsters'.



      If this is the scenario, and you are willing to go with modern history, then McCarthy and his hunt for 'communists' would certainly qualify. It definitely qualifies as a modern day 'Inquisition'. McCarthy's forces were clearly well organized and followed a command structure.



      A bit further back in history, is the concerted American campaign to completely eradicate the American Indigenous populations. They were portrayed as evil, menacing non-human monsters that had to be eliminated for the welfare of Americans. In this case, the organized body would be the American military backed by Congress.



      If you add the term 'organizations' to 'monster hunters' in a google search, you get some pretty good hits, including




      The Monster Hunters are a fictional group appearing in American comic
      books published by Marvel Comics. This group exists in Marvel's shared
      universe, known as the Marvel Universe.



      The team was created as a retcon to explain some events in the history
      of the Marvel Universe that were no longer plausible due to previous
      retcons. Their adventures are set during the late 1940s and 50's, a
      time when (in real life) Marvel/Atlas was mostly printing stories
      about strange monsters and alien invaders.




      and an entire book (actually, a quite humorous fictional Novel) about contemporary monster hunting organizations



      Monster Hunter Siege






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      • The show Criminal Minds depicts an organization dedicated to hunting down and capturing real human monsters - depraved serial killers.
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      It depends on what you mean by 'monsters', but by positing the Inquisitions as an example I presume you mean 'hunting real humans that are made out to be monsters'.



      If this is the scenario, and you are willing to go with modern history, then McCarthy and his hunt for 'communists' would certainly qualify. It definitely qualifies as a modern day 'Inquisition'. McCarthy's forces were clearly well organized and followed a command structure.



      A bit further back in history, is the concerted American campaign to completely eradicate the American Indigenous populations. They were portrayed as evil, menacing non-human monsters that had to be eliminated for the welfare of Americans. In this case, the organized body would be the American military backed by Congress.



      If you add the term 'organizations' to 'monster hunters' in a google search, you get some pretty good hits, including




      The Monster Hunters are a fictional group appearing in American comic
      books published by Marvel Comics. This group exists in Marvel's shared
      universe, known as the Marvel Universe.



      The team was created as a retcon to explain some events in the history
      of the Marvel Universe that were no longer plausible due to previous
      retcons. Their adventures are set during the late 1940s and 50's, a
      time when (in real life) Marvel/Atlas was mostly printing stories
      about strange monsters and alien invaders.




      and an entire book (actually, a quite humorous fictional Novel) about contemporary monster hunting organizations



      Monster Hunter Siege






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      • The show Criminal Minds depicts an organization dedicated to hunting down and capturing real human monsters - depraved serial killers.
        – Willk
        28 mins ago












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      It depends on what you mean by 'monsters', but by positing the Inquisitions as an example I presume you mean 'hunting real humans that are made out to be monsters'.



      If this is the scenario, and you are willing to go with modern history, then McCarthy and his hunt for 'communists' would certainly qualify. It definitely qualifies as a modern day 'Inquisition'. McCarthy's forces were clearly well organized and followed a command structure.



      A bit further back in history, is the concerted American campaign to completely eradicate the American Indigenous populations. They were portrayed as evil, menacing non-human monsters that had to be eliminated for the welfare of Americans. In this case, the organized body would be the American military backed by Congress.



      If you add the term 'organizations' to 'monster hunters' in a google search, you get some pretty good hits, including




      The Monster Hunters are a fictional group appearing in American comic
      books published by Marvel Comics. This group exists in Marvel's shared
      universe, known as the Marvel Universe.



      The team was created as a retcon to explain some events in the history
      of the Marvel Universe that were no longer plausible due to previous
      retcons. Their adventures are set during the late 1940s and 50's, a
      time when (in real life) Marvel/Atlas was mostly printing stories
      about strange monsters and alien invaders.




      and an entire book (actually, a quite humorous fictional Novel) about contemporary monster hunting organizations



      Monster Hunter Siege






      share|improve this answer














      It depends on what you mean by 'monsters', but by positing the Inquisitions as an example I presume you mean 'hunting real humans that are made out to be monsters'.



      If this is the scenario, and you are willing to go with modern history, then McCarthy and his hunt for 'communists' would certainly qualify. It definitely qualifies as a modern day 'Inquisition'. McCarthy's forces were clearly well organized and followed a command structure.



      A bit further back in history, is the concerted American campaign to completely eradicate the American Indigenous populations. They were portrayed as evil, menacing non-human monsters that had to be eliminated for the welfare of Americans. In this case, the organized body would be the American military backed by Congress.



      If you add the term 'organizations' to 'monster hunters' in a google search, you get some pretty good hits, including




      The Monster Hunters are a fictional group appearing in American comic
      books published by Marvel Comics. This group exists in Marvel's shared
      universe, known as the Marvel Universe.



      The team was created as a retcon to explain some events in the history
      of the Marvel Universe that were no longer plausible due to previous
      retcons. Their adventures are set during the late 1940s and 50's, a
      time when (in real life) Marvel/Atlas was mostly printing stories
      about strange monsters and alien invaders.




      and an entire book (actually, a quite humorous fictional Novel) about contemporary monster hunting organizations



      Monster Hunter Siege







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      • The show Criminal Minds depicts an organization dedicated to hunting down and capturing real human monsters - depraved serial killers.
        – Willk
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      • The show Criminal Minds depicts an organization dedicated to hunting down and capturing real human monsters - depraved serial killers.
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      The show Criminal Minds depicts an organization dedicated to hunting down and capturing real human monsters - depraved serial killers.
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      The show Criminal Minds depicts an organization dedicated to hunting down and capturing real human monsters - depraved serial killers.
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      Warning: Not exactly monster hunters historically speaking



      Something like the Frumentarii could work. Basically the Frumentarii were wheat collectors for the Roman Empire who eventually became spy masters as well as the secret police of the Empire.



      Now what the Romans did was pretty ingenious. Instead of making a new burea within the Roman government they turned wheat collectors into spy masters. This gave the Romans a vast ready made intelligence service and one that was already spread across the Empire.



      Now for the monster hunting. Some Frumentarii where tied to the legions because of their knowledge of terrain and the provinces themselves. While not exactly assassin's you could easily have a organization like the Frumentarii have a intelligence service, but also assassins or in your case monster hunters. If they are tied to the army they could also have agents that try to recruit members from the military.






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        Warning: Not exactly monster hunters historically speaking



        Something like the Frumentarii could work. Basically the Frumentarii were wheat collectors for the Roman Empire who eventually became spy masters as well as the secret police of the Empire.



        Now what the Romans did was pretty ingenious. Instead of making a new burea within the Roman government they turned wheat collectors into spy masters. This gave the Romans a vast ready made intelligence service and one that was already spread across the Empire.



        Now for the monster hunting. Some Frumentarii where tied to the legions because of their knowledge of terrain and the provinces themselves. While not exactly assassin's you could easily have a organization like the Frumentarii have a intelligence service, but also assassins or in your case monster hunters. If they are tied to the army they could also have agents that try to recruit members from the military.






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          Warning: Not exactly monster hunters historically speaking



          Something like the Frumentarii could work. Basically the Frumentarii were wheat collectors for the Roman Empire who eventually became spy masters as well as the secret police of the Empire.



          Now what the Romans did was pretty ingenious. Instead of making a new burea within the Roman government they turned wheat collectors into spy masters. This gave the Romans a vast ready made intelligence service and one that was already spread across the Empire.



          Now for the monster hunting. Some Frumentarii where tied to the legions because of their knowledge of terrain and the provinces themselves. While not exactly assassin's you could easily have a organization like the Frumentarii have a intelligence service, but also assassins or in your case monster hunters. If they are tied to the army they could also have agents that try to recruit members from the military.






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          Warning: Not exactly monster hunters historically speaking



          Something like the Frumentarii could work. Basically the Frumentarii were wheat collectors for the Roman Empire who eventually became spy masters as well as the secret police of the Empire.



          Now what the Romans did was pretty ingenious. Instead of making a new burea within the Roman government they turned wheat collectors into spy masters. This gave the Romans a vast ready made intelligence service and one that was already spread across the Empire.



          Now for the monster hunting. Some Frumentarii where tied to the legions because of their knowledge of terrain and the provinces themselves. While not exactly assassin's you could easily have a organization like the Frumentarii have a intelligence service, but also assassins or in your case monster hunters. If they are tied to the army they could also have agents that try to recruit members from the military.







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              Try a search for cryptozoology.
              One of the best known probably the now defunct International Society for Cryptozoology. For fictional references try the Etheric Explorers Club (Paul Marlow), the Explorers Club graphic novels and the work of James Board - Pinterest is a good start. Also fictional the Laundry Files by Charles Stross.






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                Try a search for cryptozoology.
                One of the best known probably the now defunct International Society for Cryptozoology. For fictional references try the Etheric Explorers Club (Paul Marlow), the Explorers Club graphic novels and the work of James Board - Pinterest is a good start. Also fictional the Laundry Files by Charles Stross.






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                  One of the best known probably the now defunct International Society for Cryptozoology. For fictional references try the Etheric Explorers Club (Paul Marlow), the Explorers Club graphic novels and the work of James Board - Pinterest is a good start. Also fictional the Laundry Files by Charles Stross.






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                  Try a search for cryptozoology.
                  One of the best known probably the now defunct International Society for Cryptozoology. For fictional references try the Etheric Explorers Club (Paul Marlow), the Explorers Club graphic novels and the work of James Board - Pinterest is a good start. Also fictional the Laundry Files by Charles Stross.







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