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In the faraway land of Backeye, people have developed a secretive language called Pasgas. Rather than enunciating words, or forming them with gestures, Pasgas speakers communicate by passing wind. They control the pitch and the duration of each toot, with a single phoneme veing able to convey as much meaning as an ideogram (such as chinese characters, or japanese kanji characters) or even a whole sentence.
Pasgas is popular among spies, but serves for other professions as well. Abroad, it can be used to relay messages to fellow captives, a conversation that is silent to all but the initiated. In Backeye, guards can use it as a shibboleth to readily identify foreigners. And in team sports such as volleyball it can be used to coordinate strategy without the need for a team huddle.
My question is: is such a method of communication possible? If not, then why? If it is possible, what kind of training would be required to speak Pasgas?
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In the faraway land of Backeye, people have developed a secretive language called Pasgas. Rather than enunciating words, or forming them with gestures, Pasgas speakers communicate by passing wind. They control the pitch and the duration of each toot, with a single phoneme veing able to convey as much meaning as an ideogram (such as chinese characters, or japanese kanji characters) or even a whole sentence.
Pasgas is popular among spies, but serves for other professions as well. Abroad, it can be used to relay messages to fellow captives, a conversation that is silent to all but the initiated. In Backeye, guards can use it as a shibboleth to readily identify foreigners. And in team sports such as volleyball it can be used to coordinate strategy without the need for a team huddle.
My question is: is such a method of communication possible? If not, then why? If it is possible, what kind of training would be required to speak Pasgas?
language communication
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Aside from the possibility of formulating the message, I believe one major problem would be to have it reach destination. Except on very short distances, how to make sure the wind will not turn? Even if that's solved, conversations would be difficult because you would have to wait for the wind to turn back and forth for exchanges.
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So, they're whistling?
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In the faraway land of Backeye, people have developed a secretive language called Pasgas. Rather than enunciating words, or forming them with gestures, Pasgas speakers communicate by passing wind. They control the pitch and the duration of each toot, with a single phoneme veing able to convey as much meaning as an ideogram (such as chinese characters, or japanese kanji characters) or even a whole sentence.
Pasgas is popular among spies, but serves for other professions as well. Abroad, it can be used to relay messages to fellow captives, a conversation that is silent to all but the initiated. In Backeye, guards can use it as a shibboleth to readily identify foreigners. And in team sports such as volleyball it can be used to coordinate strategy without the need for a team huddle.
My question is: is such a method of communication possible? If not, then why? If it is possible, what kind of training would be required to speak Pasgas?
language communication
asked 4 hours ago
Renan
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In the faraway land of Backeye, people have developed a secretive language called Pasgas. Rather than enunciating words, or forming them with gestures, Pasgas speakers communicate by passing wind. They control the pitch and the duration of each toot, with a single phoneme veing able to convey as much meaning as an ideogram (such as chinese characters, or japanese kanji characters) or even a whole sentence.
Pasgas is popular among spies, but serves for other professions as well. Abroad, it can be used to relay messages to fellow captives, a conversation that is silent to all but the initiated. In Backeye, guards can use it as a shibboleth to readily identify foreigners. And in team sports such as volleyball it can be used to coordinate strategy without the need for a team huddle.
My question is: is such a method of communication possible? If not, then why? If it is possible, what kind of training would be required to speak Pasgas?
language communication
language communication
asked 4 hours ago
Renan
38.3k1186193
asked 4 hours ago
Renan
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asked 4 hours ago
Renan
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asked 4 hours ago
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Aside from the possibility of formulating the message, I believe one major problem would be to have it reach destination. Except on very short distances, how to make sure the wind will not turn? Even if that's solved, conversations would be difficult because you would have to wait for the wind to turn back and forth for exchanges.
– Alexis
4 hours ago
So, they're whistling?
– Alexander von Wernherr
1 hour ago
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Aside from the possibility of formulating the message, I believe one major problem would be to have it reach destination. Except on very short distances, how to make sure the wind will not turn? Even if that's solved, conversations would be difficult because you would have to wait for the wind to turn back and forth for exchanges.
– Alexis
4 hours ago
So, they're whistling?
– Alexander von Wernherr
1 hour ago
Aside from the possibility of formulating the message, I believe one major problem would be to have it reach destination. Except on very short distances, how to make sure the wind will not turn? Even if that's solved, conversations would be difficult because you would have to wait for the wind to turn back and forth for exchanges.
– Alexis
4 hours ago
Aside from the possibility of formulating the message, I believe one major problem would be to have it reach destination. Except on very short distances, how to make sure the wind will not turn? Even if that's solved, conversations would be difficult because you would have to wait for the wind to turn back and forth for exchanges.
– Alexis
4 hours ago
So, they're whistling?
– Alexander von Wernherr
1 hour ago
So, they're whistling?
– Alexander von Wernherr
1 hour ago
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a conversation that is silent to all but the initiated
I would argue about the silent... anyway...
This looks like a variant of the Silbo Gomero
Silbo Gomero (Spanish: silbo gomero [ˈsilβo ɣoˈmeɾo], 'Gomeran whistle'), also known as el silbo ('the whistle'), is a whistled register of Spanish used by inhabitants of La Gomera in the Canary Islands to communicate across the deep ravines and narrow valleys that radiate through the island. It enables messages to be exchanged over a distance of up to 5 kilometres. Due to this loud nature, Silbo Gomero is generally used in circumstances of public communication.
The main problem with your proposed approach is that the rectum lacks most of the structures that in the mouth allow for sound modulation: on one side you have, among others, throat, tongue, teeth, cheeks to help tune the sound emission, while on the other side you have the sphincter and the gluteus. I see it as possible to control the duration of the emission and to some extent the pitch.
However, with some training it should be possible to achieve some modulation capabilities, like Le Petomane did:
Le Pétomane (/ləˈpɛtəmeɪn/, French pronunciation: ​[ləpetɔˈman]) was the stage name of the French flatulist (professional farter) and entertainer Joseph Pujol (June 1, 1857 – 1945). He was famous for his remarkable control of the abdominal muscles, which enabled him to seemingly fart at will. His stage name combines the French verb péter, "to fart" with the -mane, "-maniac" suffix, which translates to "fartomaniac". The profession is also referred to as "flatulist", "farteur", or "fartiste".
It is a common misconception that Joseph Pujol actually passed intestinal gas as part of his stage performance. Rather, Pujol was able to "inhale" or move air into his rectum and then control the release of that air with his anal sphincter muscles. Evidence of his ability to control those muscles was seen in the early accounts of demonstrations of his abilities to fellow soldiers.
Some of the highlights of his stage act involved sound effects of cannon fire and thunderstorms, as well as playing "'O Sole Mio" and "La Marseillaise" on an ocarina through a rubber tube in his anus. He could also blow out a candle from several yards away.
Still, such communication would be short distance, with no way to reach the km range of the Silbo Gomero.
Also, I doubt that an untrained listener would consider normal a continued farting of the type needed for some sort of communication, unless it was spread over time to look as much as possible as "natural".
Summarizing:
- Is it possible to learn this ability?: almost surely yes.
- Can be used for communicating?: yes on short distances and for concise messages.
- Can it be secretive?: only if used at low fart, ahem, Baud rate. Prolonged and sustained vocalization would draw attention.
answered 4 hours ago
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+1, but the summary probably should include a mention of how secretive it would be as it seemed fairly central to the idea, ie. a part of the "such" in "is such communication possible". That said any answer that mentions Le Pétomane is obviously awesome.
– Ville Niemi
2 hours ago
@VilleNiemi, added
– L.Dutch♦
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1 Answer
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active
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active
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up vote
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a conversation that is silent to all but the initiated
I would argue about the silent... anyway...
This looks like a variant of the Silbo Gomero
Silbo Gomero (Spanish: silbo gomero [ˈsilβo ɣoˈmeɾo], 'Gomeran whistle'), also known as el silbo ('the whistle'), is a whistled register of Spanish used by inhabitants of La Gomera in the Canary Islands to communicate across the deep ravines and narrow valleys that radiate through the island. It enables messages to be exchanged over a distance of up to 5 kilometres. Due to this loud nature, Silbo Gomero is generally used in circumstances of public communication.
The main problem with your proposed approach is that the rectum lacks most of the structures that in the mouth allow for sound modulation: on one side you have, among others, throat, tongue, teeth, cheeks to help tune the sound emission, while on the other side you have the sphincter and the gluteus. I see it as possible to control the duration of the emission and to some extent the pitch.
However, with some training it should be possible to achieve some modulation capabilities, like Le Petomane did:
Le Pétomane (/ləˈpɛtəmeɪn/, French pronunciation: ​[ləpetɔˈman]) was the stage name of the French flatulist (professional farter) and entertainer Joseph Pujol (June 1, 1857 – 1945). He was famous for his remarkable control of the abdominal muscles, which enabled him to seemingly fart at will. His stage name combines the French verb péter, "to fart" with the -mane, "-maniac" suffix, which translates to "fartomaniac". The profession is also referred to as "flatulist", "farteur", or "fartiste".
It is a common misconception that Joseph Pujol actually passed intestinal gas as part of his stage performance. Rather, Pujol was able to "inhale" or move air into his rectum and then control the release of that air with his anal sphincter muscles. Evidence of his ability to control those muscles was seen in the early accounts of demonstrations of his abilities to fellow soldiers.
Some of the highlights of his stage act involved sound effects of cannon fire and thunderstorms, as well as playing "'O Sole Mio" and "La Marseillaise" on an ocarina through a rubber tube in his anus. He could also blow out a candle from several yards away.
Still, such communication would be short distance, with no way to reach the km range of the Silbo Gomero.
Also, I doubt that an untrained listener would consider normal a continued farting of the type needed for some sort of communication, unless it was spread over time to look as much as possible as "natural".
Summarizing:
- Is it possible to learn this ability?: almost surely yes.
- Can be used for communicating?: yes on short distances and for concise messages.
- Can it be secretive?: only if used at low fart, ahem, Baud rate. Prolonged and sustained vocalization would draw attention.
answered 4 hours ago
L.Dutch♦
67.1k20161315
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+1, but the summary probably should include a mention of how secretive it would be as it seemed fairly central to the idea, ie. a part of the "such" in "is such communication possible". That said any answer that mentions Le Pétomane is obviously awesome.
– Ville Niemi
2 hours ago
@VilleNiemi, added
– L.Dutch♦
2 hours ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
6
down vote
a conversation that is silent to all but the initiated
I would argue about the silent... anyway...
This looks like a variant of the Silbo Gomero
Silbo Gomero (Spanish: silbo gomero [ˈsilβo ɣoˈmeɾo], 'Gomeran whistle'), also known as el silbo ('the whistle'), is a whistled register of Spanish used by inhabitants of La Gomera in the Canary Islands to communicate across the deep ravines and narrow valleys that radiate through the island. It enables messages to be exchanged over a distance of up to 5 kilometres. Due to this loud nature, Silbo Gomero is generally used in circumstances of public communication.
The main problem with your proposed approach is that the rectum lacks most of the structures that in the mouth allow for sound modulation: on one side you have, among others, throat, tongue, teeth, cheeks to help tune the sound emission, while on the other side you have the sphincter and the gluteus. I see it as possible to control the duration of the emission and to some extent the pitch.
However, with some training it should be possible to achieve some modulation capabilities, like Le Petomane did:
Le Pétomane (/ləˈpɛtəmeɪn/, French pronunciation: ​[ləpetɔˈman]) was the stage name of the French flatulist (professional farter) and entertainer Joseph Pujol (June 1, 1857 – 1945). He was famous for his remarkable control of the abdominal muscles, which enabled him to seemingly fart at will. His stage name combines the French verb péter, "to fart" with the -mane, "-maniac" suffix, which translates to "fartomaniac". The profession is also referred to as "flatulist", "farteur", or "fartiste".
It is a common misconception that Joseph Pujol actually passed intestinal gas as part of his stage performance. Rather, Pujol was able to "inhale" or move air into his rectum and then control the release of that air with his anal sphincter muscles. Evidence of his ability to control those muscles was seen in the early accounts of demonstrations of his abilities to fellow soldiers.
Some of the highlights of his stage act involved sound effects of cannon fire and thunderstorms, as well as playing "'O Sole Mio" and "La Marseillaise" on an ocarina through a rubber tube in his anus. He could also blow out a candle from several yards away.
Still, such communication would be short distance, with no way to reach the km range of the Silbo Gomero.
Also, I doubt that an untrained listener would consider normal a continued farting of the type needed for some sort of communication, unless it was spread over time to look as much as possible as "natural".
Summarizing:
- Is it possible to learn this ability?: almost surely yes.
- Can be used for communicating?: yes on short distances and for concise messages.
- Can it be secretive?: only if used at low fart, ahem, Baud rate. Prolonged and sustained vocalization would draw attention.
answered 4 hours ago
L.Dutch♦
67.1k20161315
1
+1, but the summary probably should include a mention of how secretive it would be as it seemed fairly central to the idea, ie. a part of the "such" in "is such communication possible". That said any answer that mentions Le Pétomane is obviously awesome.
– Ville Niemi
2 hours ago
@VilleNiemi, added
– L.Dutch♦
2 hours ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
6
down vote
up vote
6
down vote
a conversation that is silent to all but the initiated
I would argue about the silent... anyway...
This looks like a variant of the Silbo Gomero
Silbo Gomero (Spanish: silbo gomero [ˈsilβo ɣoˈmeɾo], 'Gomeran whistle'), also known as el silbo ('the whistle'), is a whistled register of Spanish used by inhabitants of La Gomera in the Canary Islands to communicate across the deep ravines and narrow valleys that radiate through the island. It enables messages to be exchanged over a distance of up to 5 kilometres. Due to this loud nature, Silbo Gomero is generally used in circumstances of public communication.
The main problem with your proposed approach is that the rectum lacks most of the structures that in the mouth allow for sound modulation: on one side you have, among others, throat, tongue, teeth, cheeks to help tune the sound emission, while on the other side you have the sphincter and the gluteus. I see it as possible to control the duration of the emission and to some extent the pitch.
However, with some training it should be possible to achieve some modulation capabilities, like Le Petomane did:
Le Pétomane (/ləˈpɛtəmeɪn/, French pronunciation: ​[ləpetɔˈman]) was the stage name of the French flatulist (professional farter) and entertainer Joseph Pujol (June 1, 1857 – 1945). He was famous for his remarkable control of the abdominal muscles, which enabled him to seemingly fart at will. His stage name combines the French verb péter, "to fart" with the -mane, "-maniac" suffix, which translates to "fartomaniac". The profession is also referred to as "flatulist", "farteur", or "fartiste".
It is a common misconception that Joseph Pujol actually passed intestinal gas as part of his stage performance. Rather, Pujol was able to "inhale" or move air into his rectum and then control the release of that air with his anal sphincter muscles. Evidence of his ability to control those muscles was seen in the early accounts of demonstrations of his abilities to fellow soldiers.
Some of the highlights of his stage act involved sound effects of cannon fire and thunderstorms, as well as playing "'O Sole Mio" and "La Marseillaise" on an ocarina through a rubber tube in his anus. He could also blow out a candle from several yards away.
Still, such communication would be short distance, with no way to reach the km range of the Silbo Gomero.
Also, I doubt that an untrained listener would consider normal a continued farting of the type needed for some sort of communication, unless it was spread over time to look as much as possible as "natural".
Summarizing:
- Is it possible to learn this ability?: almost surely yes.
- Can be used for communicating?: yes on short distances and for concise messages.
- Can it be secretive?: only if used at low fart, ahem, Baud rate. Prolonged and sustained vocalization would draw attention.
answered 4 hours ago
L.Dutch♦
67.1k20161315
a conversation that is silent to all but the initiated
I would argue about the silent... anyway...
This looks like a variant of the Silbo Gomero
Silbo Gomero (Spanish: silbo gomero [ˈsilβo ɣoˈmeɾo], 'Gomeran whistle'), also known as el silbo ('the whistle'), is a whistled register of Spanish used by inhabitants of La Gomera in the Canary Islands to communicate across the deep ravines and narrow valleys that radiate through the island. It enables messages to be exchanged over a distance of up to 5 kilometres. Due to this loud nature, Silbo Gomero is generally used in circumstances of public communication.
The main problem with your proposed approach is that the rectum lacks most of the structures that in the mouth allow for sound modulation: on one side you have, among others, throat, tongue, teeth, cheeks to help tune the sound emission, while on the other side you have the sphincter and the gluteus. I see it as possible to control the duration of the emission and to some extent the pitch.
However, with some training it should be possible to achieve some modulation capabilities, like Le Petomane did:
Le Pétomane (/ləˈpɛtəmeɪn/, French pronunciation: ​[ləpetɔˈman]) was the stage name of the French flatulist (professional farter) and entertainer Joseph Pujol (June 1, 1857 – 1945). He was famous for his remarkable control of the abdominal muscles, which enabled him to seemingly fart at will. His stage name combines the French verb péter, "to fart" with the -mane, "-maniac" suffix, which translates to "fartomaniac". The profession is also referred to as "flatulist", "farteur", or "fartiste".
It is a common misconception that Joseph Pujol actually passed intestinal gas as part of his stage performance. Rather, Pujol was able to "inhale" or move air into his rectum and then control the release of that air with his anal sphincter muscles. Evidence of his ability to control those muscles was seen in the early accounts of demonstrations of his abilities to fellow soldiers.
Some of the highlights of his stage act involved sound effects of cannon fire and thunderstorms, as well as playing "'O Sole Mio" and "La Marseillaise" on an ocarina through a rubber tube in his anus. He could also blow out a candle from several yards away.
Still, such communication would be short distance, with no way to reach the km range of the Silbo Gomero.
Also, I doubt that an untrained listener would consider normal a continued farting of the type needed for some sort of communication, unless it was spread over time to look as much as possible as "natural".
Summarizing:
- Is it possible to learn this ability?: almost surely yes.
- Can be used for communicating?: yes on short distances and for concise messages.
- Can it be secretive?: only if used at low fart, ahem, Baud rate. Prolonged and sustained vocalization would draw attention.
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+1, but the summary probably should include a mention of how secretive it would be as it seemed fairly central to the idea, ie. a part of the "such" in "is such communication possible". That said any answer that mentions Le Pétomane is obviously awesome.
– Ville Niemi
2 hours ago
@VilleNiemi, added
– L.Dutch♦
2 hours ago
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+1, but the summary probably should include a mention of how secretive it would be as it seemed fairly central to the idea, ie. a part of the "such" in "is such communication possible". That said any answer that mentions Le Pétomane is obviously awesome.
– Ville Niemi
2 hours ago
@VilleNiemi, added
– L.Dutch♦
2 hours ago
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+1, but the summary probably should include a mention of how secretive it would be as it seemed fairly central to the idea, ie. a part of the "such" in "is such communication possible". That said any answer that mentions Le Pétomane is obviously awesome.
– Ville Niemi
2 hours ago
+1, but the summary probably should include a mention of how secretive it would be as it seemed fairly central to the idea, ie. a part of the "such" in "is such communication possible". That said any answer that mentions Le Pétomane is obviously awesome.
– Ville Niemi
2 hours ago
@VilleNiemi, added
– L.Dutch♦
2 hours ago
@VilleNiemi, added
– L.Dutch♦
2 hours ago
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Aside from the possibility of formulating the message, I believe one major problem would be to have it reach destination. Except on very short distances, how to make sure the wind will not turn? Even if that's solved, conversations would be difficult because you would have to wait for the wind to turn back and forth for exchanges.
– Alexis
4 hours ago
So, they're whistling?
– Alexander von Wernherr
1 hour ago