Are pies considered to be improvised weapons when thrown?

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I have recently seen a character in a comic who used pies as an improvised weapon in order to deal damage. Is this actually possible to do?










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    Have you seen the rules on improvised weapons? Is anything unclear about them? What makes you think this doesn't work? This question is a bit low on context right now.
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  • Are you asking about throwing the pie for an in-the-face hit of custardy goodness, or throwing them like a frisbee and hitting with the tin?
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    Have you seen the rules on improvised weapons? Is anything unclear about them? What makes you think this doesn't work? This question is a bit low on context right now.
    – Erik
    1 hour ago










  • Are you asking about throwing the pie for an in-the-face hit of custardy goodness, or throwing them like a frisbee and hitting with the tin?
    – NautArch
    52 mins ago










  • Old tins used to be thicker than these modern grocery store bought thin aluminum ones.
    – XAQT78
    32 mins ago












  • 3




    Have you seen the rules on improvised weapons? Is anything unclear about them? What makes you think this doesn't work? This question is a bit low on context right now.
    – Erik
    1 hour ago










  • Are you asking about throwing the pie for an in-the-face hit of custardy goodness, or throwing them like a frisbee and hitting with the tin?
    – NautArch
    52 mins ago










  • Old tins used to be thicker than these modern grocery store bought thin aluminum ones.
    – XAQT78
    32 mins ago







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Have you seen the rules on improvised weapons? Is anything unclear about them? What makes you think this doesn't work? This question is a bit low on context right now.
– Erik
1 hour ago




Have you seen the rules on improvised weapons? Is anything unclear about them? What makes you think this doesn't work? This question is a bit low on context right now.
– Erik
1 hour ago












Are you asking about throwing the pie for an in-the-face hit of custardy goodness, or throwing them like a frisbee and hitting with the tin?
– NautArch
52 mins ago




Are you asking about throwing the pie for an in-the-face hit of custardy goodness, or throwing them like a frisbee and hitting with the tin?
– NautArch
52 mins ago












Old tins used to be thicker than these modern grocery store bought thin aluminum ones.
– XAQT78
32 mins ago




Old tins used to be thicker than these modern grocery store bought thin aluminum ones.
– XAQT78
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You're going to have to ask your DM, but don't be surprised if you get pie in your face.



An Improvised Weapon:




includes any object you can wield in one or two hands, such as broken glass, a table leg, a frying pan, a wagon wheel, or a dead goblin.




While a pie absolutely falls in that category, it is well within a DM's purview to say they have no idea how this would actually hurt someone and tell you that you can't use it as such. A DM could logically state that not every object can deliver meaningful damage.



For those interested, a brief history on Pieing.






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  • The trick is to hit the enemy with the edge of the pie, not the comedy classic 'pie-inna-face' way.
    – GreySage
    54 mins ago










  • @GreySage I was not thinking of this as an OddJob style attack. I asked OP to clarify, but if that's the concept, then it definitely is fine as an improvised weapon.
    – NautArch
    38 mins ago

















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Yes; The Improvised Weapon rules cover this



In the Player's Handbook, Chapter 5, Section Weapons, under the header "Improvised Weapons", the following rule is given to improvised weapons which do not otherwise resemble a regular weapon (according to the DM's whims):




An object that bears no resemblance to a weapon deals 1d4 damage (the DM assigns a damage type appropriate to the object). If a character uses a ranged weapon to make a melee attack, or throws a melee weapon that does not have the thrown property, it also deals 1d4 damage. An improvised thrown weapon has a normal range of 20 feet and a long range of 60 feet.




In this case, a pie being thrown at an opponent would have a damage dice of 1d4 (+the Strength modifier of the thrower) and have a range of 20 feet, or 60 feet with Disadvantage on the Attack Roll.



As DM, I'd probably put a negative modifier of 1 or 2 on the damage of the pie (the pie itself would probably cushion some of the blow), but that's up to DM fiat and not something inherent to the rules.






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    Others have already covered the rules for Improvised Weapons as they relate to pie throwing so I will leave that alone.



    An alternative take on pies



    There is a show called Critical Role. On one episode, Chris Hardwick makes a guest appearance playing the necromantic Wizard Gern Blanston, a candle maker who enchants candles and sends them as attacks via undead puppets. Rather than dealing improvised weapons damage, if a character's main attack was pie throwing an alternative might be this approach of enchanting pies with spells.



    Reference: https://criticalrole.fandom.com/wiki/Gern_Blanston






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    • So are you suggesting playing a spellcaster and refluffing casting a spell as throwing an enchanted pie?
      – divibisan
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    • Was Gern casting Animate Objects?
      – NautArch
      1 hour ago






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      Answers are still expected to directly answer the question (even if it's a fun-oriented question, sorry), but also I don't understand entirely what the approach is you're alluding to. If it's “enchant a pie with a spell, then throw it” that isn't an answer to the mechanical question.
      – doppelgreener♦
      51 mins ago











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    You're going to have to ask your DM, but don't be surprised if you get pie in your face.



    An Improvised Weapon:




    includes any object you can wield in one or two hands, such as broken glass, a table leg, a frying pan, a wagon wheel, or a dead goblin.




    While a pie absolutely falls in that category, it is well within a DM's purview to say they have no idea how this would actually hurt someone and tell you that you can't use it as such. A DM could logically state that not every object can deliver meaningful damage.



    For those interested, a brief history on Pieing.






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    • The trick is to hit the enemy with the edge of the pie, not the comedy classic 'pie-inna-face' way.
      – GreySage
      54 mins ago










    • @GreySage I was not thinking of this as an OddJob style attack. I asked OP to clarify, but if that's the concept, then it definitely is fine as an improvised weapon.
      – NautArch
      38 mins ago














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    You're going to have to ask your DM, but don't be surprised if you get pie in your face.



    An Improvised Weapon:




    includes any object you can wield in one or two hands, such as broken glass, a table leg, a frying pan, a wagon wheel, or a dead goblin.




    While a pie absolutely falls in that category, it is well within a DM's purview to say they have no idea how this would actually hurt someone and tell you that you can't use it as such. A DM could logically state that not every object can deliver meaningful damage.



    For those interested, a brief history on Pieing.






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    • The trick is to hit the enemy with the edge of the pie, not the comedy classic 'pie-inna-face' way.
      – GreySage
      54 mins ago










    • @GreySage I was not thinking of this as an OddJob style attack. I asked OP to clarify, but if that's the concept, then it definitely is fine as an improvised weapon.
      – NautArch
      38 mins ago












    up vote
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    up vote
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    You're going to have to ask your DM, but don't be surprised if you get pie in your face.



    An Improvised Weapon:




    includes any object you can wield in one or two hands, such as broken glass, a table leg, a frying pan, a wagon wheel, or a dead goblin.




    While a pie absolutely falls in that category, it is well within a DM's purview to say they have no idea how this would actually hurt someone and tell you that you can't use it as such. A DM could logically state that not every object can deliver meaningful damage.



    For those interested, a brief history on Pieing.






    share|improve this answer














    You're going to have to ask your DM, but don't be surprised if you get pie in your face.



    An Improvised Weapon:




    includes any object you can wield in one or two hands, such as broken glass, a table leg, a frying pan, a wagon wheel, or a dead goblin.




    While a pie absolutely falls in that category, it is well within a DM's purview to say they have no idea how this would actually hurt someone and tell you that you can't use it as such. A DM could logically state that not every object can deliver meaningful damage.



    For those interested, a brief history on Pieing.







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    • The trick is to hit the enemy with the edge of the pie, not the comedy classic 'pie-inna-face' way.
      – GreySage
      54 mins ago










    • @GreySage I was not thinking of this as an OddJob style attack. I asked OP to clarify, but if that's the concept, then it definitely is fine as an improvised weapon.
      – NautArch
      38 mins ago
















    • The trick is to hit the enemy with the edge of the pie, not the comedy classic 'pie-inna-face' way.
      – GreySage
      54 mins ago










    • @GreySage I was not thinking of this as an OddJob style attack. I asked OP to clarify, but if that's the concept, then it definitely is fine as an improvised weapon.
      – NautArch
      38 mins ago















    The trick is to hit the enemy with the edge of the pie, not the comedy classic 'pie-inna-face' way.
    – GreySage
    54 mins ago




    The trick is to hit the enemy with the edge of the pie, not the comedy classic 'pie-inna-face' way.
    – GreySage
    54 mins ago












    @GreySage I was not thinking of this as an OddJob style attack. I asked OP to clarify, but if that's the concept, then it definitely is fine as an improvised weapon.
    – NautArch
    38 mins ago




    @GreySage I was not thinking of this as an OddJob style attack. I asked OP to clarify, but if that's the concept, then it definitely is fine as an improvised weapon.
    – NautArch
    38 mins ago












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    Yes; The Improvised Weapon rules cover this



    In the Player's Handbook, Chapter 5, Section Weapons, under the header "Improvised Weapons", the following rule is given to improvised weapons which do not otherwise resemble a regular weapon (according to the DM's whims):




    An object that bears no resemblance to a weapon deals 1d4 damage (the DM assigns a damage type appropriate to the object). If a character uses a ranged weapon to make a melee attack, or throws a melee weapon that does not have the thrown property, it also deals 1d4 damage. An improvised thrown weapon has a normal range of 20 feet and a long range of 60 feet.




    In this case, a pie being thrown at an opponent would have a damage dice of 1d4 (+the Strength modifier of the thrower) and have a range of 20 feet, or 60 feet with Disadvantage on the Attack Roll.



    As DM, I'd probably put a negative modifier of 1 or 2 on the damage of the pie (the pie itself would probably cushion some of the blow), but that's up to DM fiat and not something inherent to the rules.






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      Yes; The Improvised Weapon rules cover this



      In the Player's Handbook, Chapter 5, Section Weapons, under the header "Improvised Weapons", the following rule is given to improvised weapons which do not otherwise resemble a regular weapon (according to the DM's whims):




      An object that bears no resemblance to a weapon deals 1d4 damage (the DM assigns a damage type appropriate to the object). If a character uses a ranged weapon to make a melee attack, or throws a melee weapon that does not have the thrown property, it also deals 1d4 damage. An improvised thrown weapon has a normal range of 20 feet and a long range of 60 feet.




      In this case, a pie being thrown at an opponent would have a damage dice of 1d4 (+the Strength modifier of the thrower) and have a range of 20 feet, or 60 feet with Disadvantage on the Attack Roll.



      As DM, I'd probably put a negative modifier of 1 or 2 on the damage of the pie (the pie itself would probably cushion some of the blow), but that's up to DM fiat and not something inherent to the rules.






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        Yes; The Improvised Weapon rules cover this



        In the Player's Handbook, Chapter 5, Section Weapons, under the header "Improvised Weapons", the following rule is given to improvised weapons which do not otherwise resemble a regular weapon (according to the DM's whims):




        An object that bears no resemblance to a weapon deals 1d4 damage (the DM assigns a damage type appropriate to the object). If a character uses a ranged weapon to make a melee attack, or throws a melee weapon that does not have the thrown property, it also deals 1d4 damage. An improvised thrown weapon has a normal range of 20 feet and a long range of 60 feet.




        In this case, a pie being thrown at an opponent would have a damage dice of 1d4 (+the Strength modifier of the thrower) and have a range of 20 feet, or 60 feet with Disadvantage on the Attack Roll.



        As DM, I'd probably put a negative modifier of 1 or 2 on the damage of the pie (the pie itself would probably cushion some of the blow), but that's up to DM fiat and not something inherent to the rules.






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        Yes; The Improvised Weapon rules cover this



        In the Player's Handbook, Chapter 5, Section Weapons, under the header "Improvised Weapons", the following rule is given to improvised weapons which do not otherwise resemble a regular weapon (according to the DM's whims):




        An object that bears no resemblance to a weapon deals 1d4 damage (the DM assigns a damage type appropriate to the object). If a character uses a ranged weapon to make a melee attack, or throws a melee weapon that does not have the thrown property, it also deals 1d4 damage. An improvised thrown weapon has a normal range of 20 feet and a long range of 60 feet.




        In this case, a pie being thrown at an opponent would have a damage dice of 1d4 (+the Strength modifier of the thrower) and have a range of 20 feet, or 60 feet with Disadvantage on the Attack Roll.



        As DM, I'd probably put a negative modifier of 1 or 2 on the damage of the pie (the pie itself would probably cushion some of the blow), but that's up to DM fiat and not something inherent to the rules.







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            Others have already covered the rules for Improvised Weapons as they relate to pie throwing so I will leave that alone.



            An alternative take on pies



            There is a show called Critical Role. On one episode, Chris Hardwick makes a guest appearance playing the necromantic Wizard Gern Blanston, a candle maker who enchants candles and sends them as attacks via undead puppets. Rather than dealing improvised weapons damage, if a character's main attack was pie throwing an alternative might be this approach of enchanting pies with spells.



            Reference: https://criticalrole.fandom.com/wiki/Gern_Blanston






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            • So are you suggesting playing a spellcaster and refluffing casting a spell as throwing an enchanted pie?
              – divibisan
              1 hour ago











            • Was Gern casting Animate Objects?
              – NautArch
              1 hour ago






            • 2




              Answers are still expected to directly answer the question (even if it's a fun-oriented question, sorry), but also I don't understand entirely what the approach is you're alluding to. If it's “enchant a pie with a spell, then throw it” that isn't an answer to the mechanical question.
              – doppelgreener♦
              51 mins ago















            up vote
            -2
            down vote













            Others have already covered the rules for Improvised Weapons as they relate to pie throwing so I will leave that alone.



            An alternative take on pies



            There is a show called Critical Role. On one episode, Chris Hardwick makes a guest appearance playing the necromantic Wizard Gern Blanston, a candle maker who enchants candles and sends them as attacks via undead puppets. Rather than dealing improvised weapons damage, if a character's main attack was pie throwing an alternative might be this approach of enchanting pies with spells.



            Reference: https://criticalrole.fandom.com/wiki/Gern_Blanston






            share|improve this answer




















            • So are you suggesting playing a spellcaster and refluffing casting a spell as throwing an enchanted pie?
              – divibisan
              1 hour ago











            • Was Gern casting Animate Objects?
              – NautArch
              1 hour ago






            • 2




              Answers are still expected to directly answer the question (even if it's a fun-oriented question, sorry), but also I don't understand entirely what the approach is you're alluding to. If it's “enchant a pie with a spell, then throw it” that isn't an answer to the mechanical question.
              – doppelgreener♦
              51 mins ago













            up vote
            -2
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            up vote
            -2
            down vote









            Others have already covered the rules for Improvised Weapons as they relate to pie throwing so I will leave that alone.



            An alternative take on pies



            There is a show called Critical Role. On one episode, Chris Hardwick makes a guest appearance playing the necromantic Wizard Gern Blanston, a candle maker who enchants candles and sends them as attacks via undead puppets. Rather than dealing improvised weapons damage, if a character's main attack was pie throwing an alternative might be this approach of enchanting pies with spells.



            Reference: https://criticalrole.fandom.com/wiki/Gern_Blanston






            share|improve this answer












            Others have already covered the rules for Improvised Weapons as they relate to pie throwing so I will leave that alone.



            An alternative take on pies



            There is a show called Critical Role. On one episode, Chris Hardwick makes a guest appearance playing the necromantic Wizard Gern Blanston, a candle maker who enchants candles and sends them as attacks via undead puppets. Rather than dealing improvised weapons damage, if a character's main attack was pie throwing an alternative might be this approach of enchanting pies with spells.



            Reference: https://criticalrole.fandom.com/wiki/Gern_Blanston







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            • So are you suggesting playing a spellcaster and refluffing casting a spell as throwing an enchanted pie?
              – divibisan
              1 hour ago











            • Was Gern casting Animate Objects?
              – NautArch
              1 hour ago






            • 2




              Answers are still expected to directly answer the question (even if it's a fun-oriented question, sorry), but also I don't understand entirely what the approach is you're alluding to. If it's “enchant a pie with a spell, then throw it” that isn't an answer to the mechanical question.
              – doppelgreener♦
              51 mins ago

















            • So are you suggesting playing a spellcaster and refluffing casting a spell as throwing an enchanted pie?
              – divibisan
              1 hour ago











            • Was Gern casting Animate Objects?
              – NautArch
              1 hour ago






            • 2




              Answers are still expected to directly answer the question (even if it's a fun-oriented question, sorry), but also I don't understand entirely what the approach is you're alluding to. If it's “enchant a pie with a spell, then throw it” that isn't an answer to the mechanical question.
              – doppelgreener♦
              51 mins ago
















            So are you suggesting playing a spellcaster and refluffing casting a spell as throwing an enchanted pie?
            – divibisan
            1 hour ago





            So are you suggesting playing a spellcaster and refluffing casting a spell as throwing an enchanted pie?
            – divibisan
            1 hour ago













            Was Gern casting Animate Objects?
            – NautArch
            1 hour ago




            Was Gern casting Animate Objects?
            – NautArch
            1 hour ago




            2




            2




            Answers are still expected to directly answer the question (even if it's a fun-oriented question, sorry), but also I don't understand entirely what the approach is you're alluding to. If it's “enchant a pie with a spell, then throw it” that isn't an answer to the mechanical question.
            – doppelgreener♦
            51 mins ago





            Answers are still expected to directly answer the question (even if it's a fun-oriented question, sorry), but also I don't understand entirely what the approach is you're alluding to. If it's “enchant a pie with a spell, then throw it” that isn't an answer to the mechanical question.
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            51 mins ago


















             

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