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Would scrying on a target with a gaze attack affect the caster?
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For example, a wizard casts scrying to peer into the big bad's lair, where his pet umber hulk happens to be lounging. Would you rule that the caster must deal with the effects of the umber hulk's gaze attack since his vantage point is within 30', or would he be safe from the umber hulk's confusion ability since he physically is still miles away?
I have a feeling it's the latter, taking the rules strictly as written, but I'm open to the possibility there was a clarification published somewhere that I'm not aware of.
I'm also curious if the answer would be any different for sound-based effects, such as a chasme's droning or a satyr's pipes.
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For example, a wizard casts scrying to peer into the big bad's lair, where his pet umber hulk happens to be lounging. Would you rule that the caster must deal with the effects of the umber hulk's gaze attack since his vantage point is within 30', or would he be safe from the umber hulk's confusion ability since he physically is still miles away?
I have a feeling it's the latter, taking the rules strictly as written, but I'm open to the possibility there was a clarification published somewhere that I'm not aware of.
I'm also curious if the answer would be any different for sound-based effects, such as a chasme's droning or a satyr's pipes.
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For example, a wizard casts scrying to peer into the big bad's lair, where his pet umber hulk happens to be lounging. Would you rule that the caster must deal with the effects of the umber hulk's gaze attack since his vantage point is within 30', or would he be safe from the umber hulk's confusion ability since he physically is still miles away?
I have a feeling it's the latter, taking the rules strictly as written, but I'm open to the possibility there was a clarification published somewhere that I'm not aware of.
I'm also curious if the answer would be any different for sound-based effects, such as a chasme's droning or a satyr's pipes.
dnd-5e spells monsters
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For example, a wizard casts scrying to peer into the big bad's lair, where his pet umber hulk happens to be lounging. Would you rule that the caster must deal with the effects of the umber hulk's gaze attack since his vantage point is within 30', or would he be safe from the umber hulk's confusion ability since he physically is still miles away?
I have a feeling it's the latter, taking the rules strictly as written, but I'm open to the possibility there was a clarification published somewhere that I'm not aware of.
I'm also curious if the answer would be any different for sound-based effects, such as a chasme's droning or a satyr's pipes.
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dnd-5e spells monsters
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RAW, no.
Umberhulk's Confusing Gaze specifies that it takes effect when "a creature starts its turn within 30 feet of the umber hulk and is able to see the umber hulk's eyes." Scrying an umber hulk would satisfy being able to see its eyes, but the wizard is well outside of 30 feet, and isn't starting their turn aside from that. A chasme has the same qualification. I can't find relevant information for satyrs online, but I'll crack open my monster manual when I get home. Gazes aren't recognized as separate types of attacks in fifth edition, so a blanket judgement can't be made.
However, this feels very silly to me, personally, and I feel this is a situation where the rules should bend to in-universe logic. In the case of the umber hulk, I wouldn't hit the wizard with confusing gaze unless the creature had see invisible and noticed them, but I would target them with a chasme's drone.
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RAW, no.
Umberhulk's Confusing Gaze specifies that it takes effect when "a creature starts its turn within 30 feet of the umber hulk and is able to see the umber hulk's eyes." Scrying an umber hulk would satisfy being able to see its eyes, but the wizard is well outside of 30 feet, and isn't starting their turn aside from that. A chasme has the same qualification. I can't find relevant information for satyrs online, but I'll crack open my monster manual when I get home. Gazes aren't recognized as separate types of attacks in fifth edition, so a blanket judgement can't be made.
However, this feels very silly to me, personally, and I feel this is a situation where the rules should bend to in-universe logic. In the case of the umber hulk, I wouldn't hit the wizard with confusing gaze unless the creature had see invisible and noticed them, but I would target them with a chasme's drone.
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Welcome to the site! Usually it's best to wait until you have all the information instead of including qualifiers for partial answers like "I'll crack open my monster manual [later]". This isn't a typical discussion forum, and we try focus on good questions and high quality answers (which yours could be with some refining). Take our tour for more details. Also, if you offer a house rule as an answer (your last paragraph) you should back it up with play experience or more detailed references for why your approach is a good one for the OP to use.
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RAW, no.
Umberhulk's Confusing Gaze specifies that it takes effect when "a creature starts its turn within 30 feet of the umber hulk and is able to see the umber hulk's eyes." Scrying an umber hulk would satisfy being able to see its eyes, but the wizard is well outside of 30 feet, and isn't starting their turn aside from that. A chasme has the same qualification. I can't find relevant information for satyrs online, but I'll crack open my monster manual when I get home. Gazes aren't recognized as separate types of attacks in fifth edition, so a blanket judgement can't be made.
However, this feels very silly to me, personally, and I feel this is a situation where the rules should bend to in-universe logic. In the case of the umber hulk, I wouldn't hit the wizard with confusing gaze unless the creature had see invisible and noticed them, but I would target them with a chasme's drone.
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Elizabeth Yohe
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Welcome to the site! Usually it's best to wait until you have all the information instead of including qualifiers for partial answers like "I'll crack open my monster manual [later]". This isn't a typical discussion forum, and we try focus on good questions and high quality answers (which yours could be with some refining). Take our tour for more details. Also, if you offer a house rule as an answer (your last paragraph) you should back it up with play experience or more detailed references for why your approach is a good one for the OP to use.
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RAW, no.
Umberhulk's Confusing Gaze specifies that it takes effect when "a creature starts its turn within 30 feet of the umber hulk and is able to see the umber hulk's eyes." Scrying an umber hulk would satisfy being able to see its eyes, but the wizard is well outside of 30 feet, and isn't starting their turn aside from that. A chasme has the same qualification. I can't find relevant information for satyrs online, but I'll crack open my monster manual when I get home. Gazes aren't recognized as separate types of attacks in fifth edition, so a blanket judgement can't be made.
However, this feels very silly to me, personally, and I feel this is a situation where the rules should bend to in-universe logic. In the case of the umber hulk, I wouldn't hit the wizard with confusing gaze unless the creature had see invisible and noticed them, but I would target them with a chasme's drone.
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Elizabeth Yohe
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RAW, no.
Umberhulk's Confusing Gaze specifies that it takes effect when "a creature starts its turn within 30 feet of the umber hulk and is able to see the umber hulk's eyes." Scrying an umber hulk would satisfy being able to see its eyes, but the wizard is well outside of 30 feet, and isn't starting their turn aside from that. A chasme has the same qualification. I can't find relevant information for satyrs online, but I'll crack open my monster manual when I get home. Gazes aren't recognized as separate types of attacks in fifth edition, so a blanket judgement can't be made.
However, this feels very silly to me, personally, and I feel this is a situation where the rules should bend to in-universe logic. In the case of the umber hulk, I wouldn't hit the wizard with confusing gaze unless the creature had see invisible and noticed them, but I would target them with a chasme's drone.
answered 3 hours ago
Elizabeth Yohe
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answered 3 hours ago
Elizabeth Yohe
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answered 3 hours ago
Elizabeth Yohe
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answered 3 hours ago
Elizabeth Yohe
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New contributor
Elizabeth Yohe is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
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Elizabeth Yohe is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
Welcome to the site! Usually it's best to wait until you have all the information instead of including qualifiers for partial answers like "I'll crack open my monster manual [later]". This isn't a typical discussion forum, and we try focus on good questions and high quality answers (which yours could be with some refining). Take our tour for more details. Also, if you offer a house rule as an answer (your last paragraph) you should back it up with play experience or more detailed references for why your approach is a good one for the OP to use.
– David Coffron
2 hours ago
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Welcome to the site! Usually it's best to wait until you have all the information instead of including qualifiers for partial answers like "I'll crack open my monster manual [later]". This isn't a typical discussion forum, and we try focus on good questions and high quality answers (which yours could be with some refining). Take our tour for more details. Also, if you offer a house rule as an answer (your last paragraph) you should back it up with play experience or more detailed references for why your approach is a good one for the OP to use.
– David Coffron
2 hours ago
Welcome to the site! Usually it's best to wait until you have all the information instead of including qualifiers for partial answers like "I'll crack open my monster manual [later]". This isn't a typical discussion forum, and we try focus on good questions and high quality answers (which yours could be with some refining). Take our tour for more details. Also, if you offer a house rule as an answer (your last paragraph) you should back it up with play experience or more detailed references for why your approach is a good one for the OP to use.
– David Coffron
2 hours ago
Welcome to the site! Usually it's best to wait until you have all the information instead of including qualifiers for partial answers like "I'll crack open my monster manual [later]". This isn't a typical discussion forum, and we try focus on good questions and high quality answers (which yours could be with some refining). Take our tour for more details. Also, if you offer a house rule as an answer (your last paragraph) you should back it up with play experience or more detailed references for why your approach is a good one for the OP to use.
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