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Arcane Eye requires Stealth checks?
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TL;DR: DM keeps calling for Stealth checks for Arcane Eye claiming it can 'be run into by creatures' or 'bump into things and accidentally make noise'. Correct or incorrect?
Long version: My DM really doesn't like Arcane Eye. He feels that it 'ruins the suspense' of dungeon crawling. At one point he tried to nerf it to 10 minutes instead of 1 hour but I got him to back down on it. One concession I have let him make is that the doors in the Princes of the Apocalypse dungeons don't have an opening 1 inch or more, which is fine, so I can't scout the entire dungeon in most cases. That's fair. But since then he's been calling for Stealth checks with Advantage pretty frequently for the Eye. When one of the monsters eventually succeeds he has them attack it without allowing any reaction on my part or entering rounds, it just 'suddenly disappears'.
As far as I can tell, unless something can see Invisible creatures through some means, they shouldn't even get a Perception check to notice it. It flies, so it leaves no tracks. It's literally just eyeball, so it cannot make any noise.
I went so far as breaking down the Invisible > Heavily Obscured > Blinded connection for him. As far as I can tell he is objectively wrong and is trying to nerf the spell because he doesn't like it. What say you?
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TL;DR: DM keeps calling for Stealth checks for Arcane Eye claiming it can 'be run into by creatures' or 'bump into things and accidentally make noise'. Correct or incorrect?
Long version: My DM really doesn't like Arcane Eye. He feels that it 'ruins the suspense' of dungeon crawling. At one point he tried to nerf it to 10 minutes instead of 1 hour but I got him to back down on it. One concession I have let him make is that the doors in the Princes of the Apocalypse dungeons don't have an opening 1 inch or more, which is fine, so I can't scout the entire dungeon in most cases. That's fair. But since then he's been calling for Stealth checks with Advantage pretty frequently for the Eye. When one of the monsters eventually succeeds he has them attack it without allowing any reaction on my part or entering rounds, it just 'suddenly disappears'.
As far as I can tell, unless something can see Invisible creatures through some means, they shouldn't even get a Perception check to notice it. It flies, so it leaves no tracks. It's literally just eyeball, so it cannot make any noise.
I went so far as breaking down the Invisible > Heavily Obscured > Blinded connection for him. As far as I can tell he is objectively wrong and is trying to nerf the spell because he doesn't like it. What say you?
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And what happens when the caster fails the check? The invisible eye makes noise accidentally, and?...
– enkryptor
1 hour ago
He's having creatures attack it, presumably with disadvantage, despite the fact that it's floating 15 feet up, isn't a creature with stats. Doesn't even make it enter rounds, it just 'suddenly disappears'.
– Kevin B
1 hour ago
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Is your question, "What do you have to say to this anecdote?" or "Does arcane eye require stealth checks to avoid notice?" The former question is off topic as it is primarily opinion based. The latter is a good question.
– David Coffron
55 mins ago
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TL;DR: DM keeps calling for Stealth checks for Arcane Eye claiming it can 'be run into by creatures' or 'bump into things and accidentally make noise'. Correct or incorrect?
Long version: My DM really doesn't like Arcane Eye. He feels that it 'ruins the suspense' of dungeon crawling. At one point he tried to nerf it to 10 minutes instead of 1 hour but I got him to back down on it. One concession I have let him make is that the doors in the Princes of the Apocalypse dungeons don't have an opening 1 inch or more, which is fine, so I can't scout the entire dungeon in most cases. That's fair. But since then he's been calling for Stealth checks with Advantage pretty frequently for the Eye. When one of the monsters eventually succeeds he has them attack it without allowing any reaction on my part or entering rounds, it just 'suddenly disappears'.
As far as I can tell, unless something can see Invisible creatures through some means, they shouldn't even get a Perception check to notice it. It flies, so it leaves no tracks. It's literally just eyeball, so it cannot make any noise.
I went so far as breaking down the Invisible > Heavily Obscured > Blinded connection for him. As far as I can tell he is objectively wrong and is trying to nerf the spell because he doesn't like it. What say you?
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TL;DR: DM keeps calling for Stealth checks for Arcane Eye claiming it can 'be run into by creatures' or 'bump into things and accidentally make noise'. Correct or incorrect?
Long version: My DM really doesn't like Arcane Eye. He feels that it 'ruins the suspense' of dungeon crawling. At one point he tried to nerf it to 10 minutes instead of 1 hour but I got him to back down on it. One concession I have let him make is that the doors in the Princes of the Apocalypse dungeons don't have an opening 1 inch or more, which is fine, so I can't scout the entire dungeon in most cases. That's fair. But since then he's been calling for Stealth checks with Advantage pretty frequently for the Eye. When one of the monsters eventually succeeds he has them attack it without allowing any reaction on my part or entering rounds, it just 'suddenly disappears'.
As far as I can tell, unless something can see Invisible creatures through some means, they shouldn't even get a Perception check to notice it. It flies, so it leaves no tracks. It's literally just eyeball, so it cannot make any noise.
I went so far as breaking down the Invisible > Heavily Obscured > Blinded connection for him. As far as I can tell he is objectively wrong and is trying to nerf the spell because he doesn't like it. What say you?
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dnd-5e spells rules-as-written
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And what happens when the caster fails the check? The invisible eye makes noise accidentally, and?...
– enkryptor
1 hour ago
He's having creatures attack it, presumably with disadvantage, despite the fact that it's floating 15 feet up, isn't a creature with stats. Doesn't even make it enter rounds, it just 'suddenly disappears'.
– Kevin B
1 hour ago
1
Is your question, "What do you have to say to this anecdote?" or "Does arcane eye require stealth checks to avoid notice?" The former question is off topic as it is primarily opinion based. The latter is a good question.
– David Coffron
55 mins ago
Do not answer in comments.
– mxyzplk♦
31 mins ago
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And what happens when the caster fails the check? The invisible eye makes noise accidentally, and?...
– enkryptor
1 hour ago
He's having creatures attack it, presumably with disadvantage, despite the fact that it's floating 15 feet up, isn't a creature with stats. Doesn't even make it enter rounds, it just 'suddenly disappears'.
– Kevin B
1 hour ago
1
Is your question, "What do you have to say to this anecdote?" or "Does arcane eye require stealth checks to avoid notice?" The former question is off topic as it is primarily opinion based. The latter is a good question.
– David Coffron
55 mins ago
Do not answer in comments.
– mxyzplk♦
31 mins ago
And what happens when the caster fails the check? The invisible eye makes noise accidentally, and?...
– enkryptor
1 hour ago
And what happens when the caster fails the check? The invisible eye makes noise accidentally, and?...
– enkryptor
1 hour ago
He's having creatures attack it, presumably with disadvantage, despite the fact that it's floating 15 feet up, isn't a creature with stats. Doesn't even make it enter rounds, it just 'suddenly disappears'.
– Kevin B
1 hour ago
He's having creatures attack it, presumably with disadvantage, despite the fact that it's floating 15 feet up, isn't a creature with stats. Doesn't even make it enter rounds, it just 'suddenly disappears'.
– Kevin B
1 hour ago
1
1
Is your question, "What do you have to say to this anecdote?" or "Does arcane eye require stealth checks to avoid notice?" The former question is off topic as it is primarily opinion based. The latter is a good question.
– David Coffron
55 mins ago
Is your question, "What do you have to say to this anecdote?" or "Does arcane eye require stealth checks to avoid notice?" The former question is off topic as it is primarily opinion based. The latter is a good question.
– David Coffron
55 mins ago
Do not answer in comments.
– mxyzplk♦
31 mins ago
Do not answer in comments.
– mxyzplk♦
31 mins ago
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Arcane Eye creates a spell effect, not a creature, nor an object. Only creatures make Dexterity checks. If the eye is detected by something like a creature with truesight, the eye cannot be damaged any more than one could damage a fireball or magic missile, but it could be dispelled.
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Arcane Eye creates a spell effect, not a creature, nor an object. Only creatures make Dexterity checks. If the eye is detected by something like a creature with truesight, the eye cannot be damaged any more than one could damage a fireball or magic missile, but it could be dispelled.
answered 59 mins ago
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Arcane Eye creates a spell effect, not a creature, nor an object. Only creatures make Dexterity checks. If the eye is detected by something like a creature with truesight, the eye cannot be damaged any more than one could damage a fireball or magic missile, but it could be dispelled.
answered 59 mins ago
Derek Stucki
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up vote
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Arcane Eye creates a spell effect, not a creature, nor an object. Only creatures make Dexterity checks. If the eye is detected by something like a creature with truesight, the eye cannot be damaged any more than one could damage a fireball or magic missile, but it could be dispelled.
answered 59 mins ago
Derek Stucki
20k665105
Arcane Eye creates a spell effect, not a creature, nor an object. Only creatures make Dexterity checks. If the eye is detected by something like a creature with truesight, the eye cannot be damaged any more than one could damage a fireball or magic missile, but it could be dispelled.
answered 59 mins ago
Derek Stucki
20k665105
answered 59 mins ago
Derek Stucki
20k665105
answered 59 mins ago
Derek Stucki
20k665105
answered 59 mins ago
Derek Stucki
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20k665105
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And what happens when the caster fails the check? The invisible eye makes noise accidentally, and?...
– enkryptor
1 hour ago
He's having creatures attack it, presumably with disadvantage, despite the fact that it's floating 15 feet up, isn't a creature with stats. Doesn't even make it enter rounds, it just 'suddenly disappears'.
– Kevin B
1 hour ago
1
Is your question, "What do you have to say to this anecdote?" or "Does arcane eye require stealth checks to avoid notice?" The former question is off topic as it is primarily opinion based. The latter is a good question.
– David Coffron
55 mins ago
Do not answer in comments.
– mxyzplk♦
31 mins ago