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I would be camping in temperatures between 0 - 32 Fahrenheit (-17 - 0 degrees Celsius).



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      I have a 4-season tent and a 0-degree synth bag that is old so more like a 30-degree bag.










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      I would be camping in temperatures between 0 - 32 Fahrenheit (-17 - 0 degrees Celsius).



      I have a 4-season tent and a 0-degree synth bag that is old so more like a 30-degree bag.







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          Some common mistakes, definitely nothing close to exhaustive, so feel free to edit (I'll make it a community wiki if appropriate). If the point is about what you should do, the mistake is not doing it ;)



          • Underestimate the sleeping pad: You need a well insulated pad. There are various designs, but while R-Value isn't an absolute measure, it still is a good starting pointer: What is a good R value for a four-season sleeping pad?

            With a too thin pad you will be miserably cold on the bottom (well all over with time) no matter how good your sleeping bag is.


          • Forgetting to bring a second set of (under)clothing: Bring a second set of your baselayer clothing and store them completely watertight.


          • Have different gloves for different purposes and use them accordingly. Working gloves (mostly for digging the shelter) will get drenched eventually. Very warm gloves when you are "not doing anything", i.e. you don't need to touch snow (well, not more than occasionally) and you don't sweat. They are your backup gloves and should never ever get wet. Then I usually bring even a third pair that is used in between: I am not building stuff, but maybe cooking, walking, ... - they might get a bit wet, but not like when working.


          • Not using layering for clothing. I mean you should always do this outdoors, but in the cold it's just a necessity. You will need to adjust your clothing often due to activity level and/or temp/wind changes. You can't get cold but you also can't sweat, because you will get cold - so adjust early and often.


          • Forgetting to check their cooking gear at such conditions. Gas might not work or very badly at such low temps. I even had issues once lighting the gasoline when preheating the stove at ~-20degC. There's solutions, that's not really the point I want to make here, the point is, you don't want to find out whether it works when you are hours away from a warm place in the dark.






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            Common mistakes, some of which I've made:



            • Unfamiliarity with equipment - this isn't specific to winter camping of course, but if you've used all the gear before in milder conditions, then there's obviously less that's new to you. So if you're using a different tent to summer, make sure you've spent a night in it before the winter, so that you know where all the internal pockets are by feel, for example. Or use it in winter, but close to home/transport, so that you have an escape when you realise you're missing something vital.


            • Equipment freezing - if you usually leave your boots in the tent porch, you might want to bring a carrier-bag to keep them warm in the tent (inside your sleeping bag in extremis!) without smearing mud everywhere. Similarly, you probably want to keep water in your inner tent.


            • Cooking fuel - you'll need up to twice as much fuel as summer - even more if you need to melt snow or ice to obtain drinking/cooking water. Make sure you take plenty; it's pretty miserable in winter without hot food. If you're using gas, avoid butane (which completely liquefies at around -0.5°C, depending on altitude) - butane/propane mix is a better choice.


            • Snow - depending on your tent design, snow may settle on it, and cause the outer to touch the inner; in very heavy, wet, snow, it could even collapse your tent. In such conditions, you might need to get up every few hours to clear it. Snow can also reduce ventilation under the flysheet, leading to problems with condensation, and (at least theoretically) with CO₂ build-up.


            • Ground conditions - frozen ground can be hard to get pegs into, or deep snow might require broad pegs ("sand pegs") if you can't clear it to ground level. Make sure you know what kind of ground to expect, or take a selection of pegs for different conditions. Use a sleeping mat; in cold conditions, I've even used an ordinary closed-cell mat underneath the tray groundsheet and an inflatable pad inside the tent.


            • Daylight - depending on your latitude, days may be much shorter than they are in summer, so you'll have less time to reach your destination, or will have to make camp by torchlight. Make sure you have plenty of batteries or fuel for your light!






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              If you have the luxury, take a bunch of stuff you're not sure you'll need. A winter hat can be great for sleeping, especially if that bag is not a mummy. An extra fleece blanket is very nice, or even just a big dry towell if nothing else is available. A warm sweater that's not getting wet during the day is nice, and some extra layer between you and the ground. It's mostly the night I would worry about. You probably know roughly what to expect from the day, and you can always find ways to warm up. But barely sleeping because you keep waking up cold is just really uncomfortable. So try to overestimate what you'll need, stay on the safe side.



              Anything else is probably pretty dependent on what you're thinking of trying. Do you have any details about the trip in your head?






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              • The question is what are common mistakes. Do you mean that take a bunch of stuff you're not sure you'll need is a mistake that people commonly make? I'm not sure what you're saying!
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              • I just took it as "what should I think about going winter camping the first time?" I would say staying warm at night is the most important thing that's easy to underestimate.
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              Some common mistakes, definitely nothing close to exhaustive, so feel free to edit (I'll make it a community wiki if appropriate). If the point is about what you should do, the mistake is not doing it ;)



              • Underestimate the sleeping pad: You need a well insulated pad. There are various designs, but while R-Value isn't an absolute measure, it still is a good starting pointer: What is a good R value for a four-season sleeping pad?

                With a too thin pad you will be miserably cold on the bottom (well all over with time) no matter how good your sleeping bag is.


              • Forgetting to bring a second set of (under)clothing: Bring a second set of your baselayer clothing and store them completely watertight.


              • Have different gloves for different purposes and use them accordingly. Working gloves (mostly for digging the shelter) will get drenched eventually. Very warm gloves when you are "not doing anything", i.e. you don't need to touch snow (well, not more than occasionally) and you don't sweat. They are your backup gloves and should never ever get wet. Then I usually bring even a third pair that is used in between: I am not building stuff, but maybe cooking, walking, ... - they might get a bit wet, but not like when working.


              • Not using layering for clothing. I mean you should always do this outdoors, but in the cold it's just a necessity. You will need to adjust your clothing often due to activity level and/or temp/wind changes. You can't get cold but you also can't sweat, because you will get cold - so adjust early and often.


              • Forgetting to check their cooking gear at such conditions. Gas might not work or very badly at such low temps. I even had issues once lighting the gasoline when preheating the stove at ~-20degC. There's solutions, that's not really the point I want to make here, the point is, you don't want to find out whether it works when you are hours away from a warm place in the dark.






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                Some common mistakes, definitely nothing close to exhaustive, so feel free to edit (I'll make it a community wiki if appropriate). If the point is about what you should do, the mistake is not doing it ;)



                • Underestimate the sleeping pad: You need a well insulated pad. There are various designs, but while R-Value isn't an absolute measure, it still is a good starting pointer: What is a good R value for a four-season sleeping pad?

                  With a too thin pad you will be miserably cold on the bottom (well all over with time) no matter how good your sleeping bag is.


                • Forgetting to bring a second set of (under)clothing: Bring a second set of your baselayer clothing and store them completely watertight.


                • Have different gloves for different purposes and use them accordingly. Working gloves (mostly for digging the shelter) will get drenched eventually. Very warm gloves when you are "not doing anything", i.e. you don't need to touch snow (well, not more than occasionally) and you don't sweat. They are your backup gloves and should never ever get wet. Then I usually bring even a third pair that is used in between: I am not building stuff, but maybe cooking, walking, ... - they might get a bit wet, but not like when working.


                • Not using layering for clothing. I mean you should always do this outdoors, but in the cold it's just a necessity. You will need to adjust your clothing often due to activity level and/or temp/wind changes. You can't get cold but you also can't sweat, because you will get cold - so adjust early and often.


                • Forgetting to check their cooking gear at such conditions. Gas might not work or very badly at such low temps. I even had issues once lighting the gasoline when preheating the stove at ~-20degC. There's solutions, that's not really the point I want to make here, the point is, you don't want to find out whether it works when you are hours away from a warm place in the dark.






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                  Some common mistakes, definitely nothing close to exhaustive, so feel free to edit (I'll make it a community wiki if appropriate). If the point is about what you should do, the mistake is not doing it ;)



                  • Underestimate the sleeping pad: You need a well insulated pad. There are various designs, but while R-Value isn't an absolute measure, it still is a good starting pointer: What is a good R value for a four-season sleeping pad?

                    With a too thin pad you will be miserably cold on the bottom (well all over with time) no matter how good your sleeping bag is.


                  • Forgetting to bring a second set of (under)clothing: Bring a second set of your baselayer clothing and store them completely watertight.


                  • Have different gloves for different purposes and use them accordingly. Working gloves (mostly for digging the shelter) will get drenched eventually. Very warm gloves when you are "not doing anything", i.e. you don't need to touch snow (well, not more than occasionally) and you don't sweat. They are your backup gloves and should never ever get wet. Then I usually bring even a third pair that is used in between: I am not building stuff, but maybe cooking, walking, ... - they might get a bit wet, but not like when working.


                  • Not using layering for clothing. I mean you should always do this outdoors, but in the cold it's just a necessity. You will need to adjust your clothing often due to activity level and/or temp/wind changes. You can't get cold but you also can't sweat, because you will get cold - so adjust early and often.


                  • Forgetting to check their cooking gear at such conditions. Gas might not work or very badly at such low temps. I even had issues once lighting the gasoline when preheating the stove at ~-20degC. There's solutions, that's not really the point I want to make here, the point is, you don't want to find out whether it works when you are hours away from a warm place in the dark.






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                  Some common mistakes, definitely nothing close to exhaustive, so feel free to edit (I'll make it a community wiki if appropriate). If the point is about what you should do, the mistake is not doing it ;)



                  • Underestimate the sleeping pad: You need a well insulated pad. There are various designs, but while R-Value isn't an absolute measure, it still is a good starting pointer: What is a good R value for a four-season sleeping pad?

                    With a too thin pad you will be miserably cold on the bottom (well all over with time) no matter how good your sleeping bag is.


                  • Forgetting to bring a second set of (under)clothing: Bring a second set of your baselayer clothing and store them completely watertight.


                  • Have different gloves for different purposes and use them accordingly. Working gloves (mostly for digging the shelter) will get drenched eventually. Very warm gloves when you are "not doing anything", i.e. you don't need to touch snow (well, not more than occasionally) and you don't sweat. They are your backup gloves and should never ever get wet. Then I usually bring even a third pair that is used in between: I am not building stuff, but maybe cooking, walking, ... - they might get a bit wet, but not like when working.


                  • Not using layering for clothing. I mean you should always do this outdoors, but in the cold it's just a necessity. You will need to adjust your clothing often due to activity level and/or temp/wind changes. You can't get cold but you also can't sweat, because you will get cold - so adjust early and often.


                  • Forgetting to check their cooking gear at such conditions. Gas might not work or very badly at such low temps. I even had issues once lighting the gasoline when preheating the stove at ~-20degC. There's solutions, that's not really the point I want to make here, the point is, you don't want to find out whether it works when you are hours away from a warm place in the dark.







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                      Common mistakes, some of which I've made:



                      • Unfamiliarity with equipment - this isn't specific to winter camping of course, but if you've used all the gear before in milder conditions, then there's obviously less that's new to you. So if you're using a different tent to summer, make sure you've spent a night in it before the winter, so that you know where all the internal pockets are by feel, for example. Or use it in winter, but close to home/transport, so that you have an escape when you realise you're missing something vital.


                      • Equipment freezing - if you usually leave your boots in the tent porch, you might want to bring a carrier-bag to keep them warm in the tent (inside your sleeping bag in extremis!) without smearing mud everywhere. Similarly, you probably want to keep water in your inner tent.


                      • Cooking fuel - you'll need up to twice as much fuel as summer - even more if you need to melt snow or ice to obtain drinking/cooking water. Make sure you take plenty; it's pretty miserable in winter without hot food. If you're using gas, avoid butane (which completely liquefies at around -0.5°C, depending on altitude) - butane/propane mix is a better choice.


                      • Snow - depending on your tent design, snow may settle on it, and cause the outer to touch the inner; in very heavy, wet, snow, it could even collapse your tent. In such conditions, you might need to get up every few hours to clear it. Snow can also reduce ventilation under the flysheet, leading to problems with condensation, and (at least theoretically) with CO₂ build-up.


                      • Ground conditions - frozen ground can be hard to get pegs into, or deep snow might require broad pegs ("sand pegs") if you can't clear it to ground level. Make sure you know what kind of ground to expect, or take a selection of pegs for different conditions. Use a sleeping mat; in cold conditions, I've even used an ordinary closed-cell mat underneath the tray groundsheet and an inflatable pad inside the tent.


                      • Daylight - depending on your latitude, days may be much shorter than they are in summer, so you'll have less time to reach your destination, or will have to make camp by torchlight. Make sure you have plenty of batteries or fuel for your light!






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                        Common mistakes, some of which I've made:



                        • Unfamiliarity with equipment - this isn't specific to winter camping of course, but if you've used all the gear before in milder conditions, then there's obviously less that's new to you. So if you're using a different tent to summer, make sure you've spent a night in it before the winter, so that you know where all the internal pockets are by feel, for example. Or use it in winter, but close to home/transport, so that you have an escape when you realise you're missing something vital.


                        • Equipment freezing - if you usually leave your boots in the tent porch, you might want to bring a carrier-bag to keep them warm in the tent (inside your sleeping bag in extremis!) without smearing mud everywhere. Similarly, you probably want to keep water in your inner tent.


                        • Cooking fuel - you'll need up to twice as much fuel as summer - even more if you need to melt snow or ice to obtain drinking/cooking water. Make sure you take plenty; it's pretty miserable in winter without hot food. If you're using gas, avoid butane (which completely liquefies at around -0.5°C, depending on altitude) - butane/propane mix is a better choice.


                        • Snow - depending on your tent design, snow may settle on it, and cause the outer to touch the inner; in very heavy, wet, snow, it could even collapse your tent. In such conditions, you might need to get up every few hours to clear it. Snow can also reduce ventilation under the flysheet, leading to problems with condensation, and (at least theoretically) with CO₂ build-up.


                        • Ground conditions - frozen ground can be hard to get pegs into, or deep snow might require broad pegs ("sand pegs") if you can't clear it to ground level. Make sure you know what kind of ground to expect, or take a selection of pegs for different conditions. Use a sleeping mat; in cold conditions, I've even used an ordinary closed-cell mat underneath the tray groundsheet and an inflatable pad inside the tent.


                        • Daylight - depending on your latitude, days may be much shorter than they are in summer, so you'll have less time to reach your destination, or will have to make camp by torchlight. Make sure you have plenty of batteries or fuel for your light!






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                          Common mistakes, some of which I've made:



                          • Unfamiliarity with equipment - this isn't specific to winter camping of course, but if you've used all the gear before in milder conditions, then there's obviously less that's new to you. So if you're using a different tent to summer, make sure you've spent a night in it before the winter, so that you know where all the internal pockets are by feel, for example. Or use it in winter, but close to home/transport, so that you have an escape when you realise you're missing something vital.


                          • Equipment freezing - if you usually leave your boots in the tent porch, you might want to bring a carrier-bag to keep them warm in the tent (inside your sleeping bag in extremis!) without smearing mud everywhere. Similarly, you probably want to keep water in your inner tent.


                          • Cooking fuel - you'll need up to twice as much fuel as summer - even more if you need to melt snow or ice to obtain drinking/cooking water. Make sure you take plenty; it's pretty miserable in winter without hot food. If you're using gas, avoid butane (which completely liquefies at around -0.5°C, depending on altitude) - butane/propane mix is a better choice.


                          • Snow - depending on your tent design, snow may settle on it, and cause the outer to touch the inner; in very heavy, wet, snow, it could even collapse your tent. In such conditions, you might need to get up every few hours to clear it. Snow can also reduce ventilation under the flysheet, leading to problems with condensation, and (at least theoretically) with CO₂ build-up.


                          • Ground conditions - frozen ground can be hard to get pegs into, or deep snow might require broad pegs ("sand pegs") if you can't clear it to ground level. Make sure you know what kind of ground to expect, or take a selection of pegs for different conditions. Use a sleeping mat; in cold conditions, I've even used an ordinary closed-cell mat underneath the tray groundsheet and an inflatable pad inside the tent.


                          • Daylight - depending on your latitude, days may be much shorter than they are in summer, so you'll have less time to reach your destination, or will have to make camp by torchlight. Make sure you have plenty of batteries or fuel for your light!






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                          Common mistakes, some of which I've made:



                          • Unfamiliarity with equipment - this isn't specific to winter camping of course, but if you've used all the gear before in milder conditions, then there's obviously less that's new to you. So if you're using a different tent to summer, make sure you've spent a night in it before the winter, so that you know where all the internal pockets are by feel, for example. Or use it in winter, but close to home/transport, so that you have an escape when you realise you're missing something vital.


                          • Equipment freezing - if you usually leave your boots in the tent porch, you might want to bring a carrier-bag to keep them warm in the tent (inside your sleeping bag in extremis!) without smearing mud everywhere. Similarly, you probably want to keep water in your inner tent.


                          • Cooking fuel - you'll need up to twice as much fuel as summer - even more if you need to melt snow or ice to obtain drinking/cooking water. Make sure you take plenty; it's pretty miserable in winter without hot food. If you're using gas, avoid butane (which completely liquefies at around -0.5°C, depending on altitude) - butane/propane mix is a better choice.


                          • Snow - depending on your tent design, snow may settle on it, and cause the outer to touch the inner; in very heavy, wet, snow, it could even collapse your tent. In such conditions, you might need to get up every few hours to clear it. Snow can also reduce ventilation under the flysheet, leading to problems with condensation, and (at least theoretically) with CO₂ build-up.


                          • Ground conditions - frozen ground can be hard to get pegs into, or deep snow might require broad pegs ("sand pegs") if you can't clear it to ground level. Make sure you know what kind of ground to expect, or take a selection of pegs for different conditions. Use a sleeping mat; in cold conditions, I've even used an ordinary closed-cell mat underneath the tray groundsheet and an inflatable pad inside the tent.


                          • Daylight - depending on your latitude, days may be much shorter than they are in summer, so you'll have less time to reach your destination, or will have to make camp by torchlight. Make sure you have plenty of batteries or fuel for your light!







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                              If you have the luxury, take a bunch of stuff you're not sure you'll need. A winter hat can be great for sleeping, especially if that bag is not a mummy. An extra fleece blanket is very nice, or even just a big dry towell if nothing else is available. A warm sweater that's not getting wet during the day is nice, and some extra layer between you and the ground. It's mostly the night I would worry about. You probably know roughly what to expect from the day, and you can always find ways to warm up. But barely sleeping because you keep waking up cold is just really uncomfortable. So try to overestimate what you'll need, stay on the safe side.



                              Anything else is probably pretty dependent on what you're thinking of trying. Do you have any details about the trip in your head?






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                              • The question is what are common mistakes. Do you mean that take a bunch of stuff you're not sure you'll need is a mistake that people commonly make? I'm not sure what you're saying!
                                – gerrit
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                              • I just took it as "what should I think about going winter camping the first time?" I would say staying warm at night is the most important thing that's easy to underestimate.
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                              If you have the luxury, take a bunch of stuff you're not sure you'll need. A winter hat can be great for sleeping, especially if that bag is not a mummy. An extra fleece blanket is very nice, or even just a big dry towell if nothing else is available. A warm sweater that's not getting wet during the day is nice, and some extra layer between you and the ground. It's mostly the night I would worry about. You probably know roughly what to expect from the day, and you can always find ways to warm up. But barely sleeping because you keep waking up cold is just really uncomfortable. So try to overestimate what you'll need, stay on the safe side.



                              Anything else is probably pretty dependent on what you're thinking of trying. Do you have any details about the trip in your head?






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                              • The question is what are common mistakes. Do you mean that take a bunch of stuff you're not sure you'll need is a mistake that people commonly make? I'm not sure what you're saying!
                                – gerrit
                                1 hour ago











                              • I just took it as "what should I think about going winter camping the first time?" I would say staying warm at night is the most important thing that's easy to underestimate.
                                – Monster
                                18 mins ago












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                              If you have the luxury, take a bunch of stuff you're not sure you'll need. A winter hat can be great for sleeping, especially if that bag is not a mummy. An extra fleece blanket is very nice, or even just a big dry towell if nothing else is available. A warm sweater that's not getting wet during the day is nice, and some extra layer between you and the ground. It's mostly the night I would worry about. You probably know roughly what to expect from the day, and you can always find ways to warm up. But barely sleeping because you keep waking up cold is just really uncomfortable. So try to overestimate what you'll need, stay on the safe side.



                              Anything else is probably pretty dependent on what you're thinking of trying. Do you have any details about the trip in your head?






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                              If you have the luxury, take a bunch of stuff you're not sure you'll need. A winter hat can be great for sleeping, especially if that bag is not a mummy. An extra fleece blanket is very nice, or even just a big dry towell if nothing else is available. A warm sweater that's not getting wet during the day is nice, and some extra layer between you and the ground. It's mostly the night I would worry about. You probably know roughly what to expect from the day, and you can always find ways to warm up. But barely sleeping because you keep waking up cold is just really uncomfortable. So try to overestimate what you'll need, stay on the safe side.



                              Anything else is probably pretty dependent on what you're thinking of trying. Do you have any details about the trip in your head?







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                              • The question is what are common mistakes. Do you mean that take a bunch of stuff you're not sure you'll need is a mistake that people commonly make? I'm not sure what you're saying!
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                              • I just took it as "what should I think about going winter camping the first time?" I would say staying warm at night is the most important thing that's easy to underestimate.
                                – Monster
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                              • The question is what are common mistakes. Do you mean that take a bunch of stuff you're not sure you'll need is a mistake that people commonly make? I'm not sure what you're saying!
                                – gerrit
                                1 hour ago











                              • I just took it as "what should I think about going winter camping the first time?" I would say staying warm at night is the most important thing that's easy to underestimate.
                                – Monster
                                18 mins ago















                              The question is what are common mistakes. Do you mean that take a bunch of stuff you're not sure you'll need is a mistake that people commonly make? I'm not sure what you're saying!
                              – gerrit
                              1 hour ago





                              The question is what are common mistakes. Do you mean that take a bunch of stuff you're not sure you'll need is a mistake that people commonly make? I'm not sure what you're saying!
                              – gerrit
                              1 hour ago













                              I just took it as "what should I think about going winter camping the first time?" I would say staying warm at night is the most important thing that's easy to underestimate.
                              – Monster
                              18 mins ago




                              I just took it as "what should I think about going winter camping the first time?" I would say staying warm at night is the most important thing that's easy to underestimate.
                              – Monster
                              18 mins ago










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