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How can I test to find the continent's “best†young mages?
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Some background
The gods who have watched over us for so long are clearly angry. They've sent us this terrible trial in the form of a giant dungeon and told us if we can't complete it they'll wipe out our continent and start over (our intel says the other continents have gotten much the same message with their own trials, but hell if we'll help them--this'll be hard enough for us alone). We're told it won't open for another 18 years and for Young Adult fiction reason #57, the only people who can enter are those under the age of 20.
After many discussions and much analysis, we (the "government") have decided that we're limiting the number of kids we'll let enter to 1,000 and we've made it known that in 15 years we'll begin searching for those chosen 1,000 (this'll give us a year to search and 2 years to train them before the dungeon opens).
Needless to say the whole schooling system is getting a major overhaul--every school wants the prestige of teaching one of the chosen thousand. Not to mention birth rates are at an all time high. Everyone wants to be able to say that their kid was one of the few that helped save us all. Or they may be interested in the rewards we're offering those chosen. Who knows.
Thanks to some recent breakthroughs from the Mage's Guild, we're able to generate a spell to put about 1,000 people in a compressed time space where time will move at 1/10'th the rate as outside. Because of this, we're able to realistically test in groups of 1,000 kids for 8 hours with 20 proctors.
Our problem
But here's the problem: how on earth do we test these kids to narrow down from the almost million kids in our age range? We want those who have strong physical attributes, so that they can go toe-to-toe physically with whatever they find in the dungeon. We need them to be quick rational thinkers and problem solvers--who knows what kind of puzzles the gods have chosen to employ. And we also need those with a strong aptitude for magic1.
We've discussed the idea of holding standardized written tests with our own proctors, but with how corrupt the nobility can be, we imagine that they'll bribe a test taker in a neighboring town (or maybe one even further) to get the test early.
The facts broken down...
- We need to narrow down from almost a million kids (ages 14-16) to 1,000
- We have the ability to test groups of about 1,000 kids at a time for 8 hours with 20 proctors
- We're judging children by the following criteria:
- Physical prowess
- Ability to think and act logically/rationally under pressure
- "Magic ability" (or out of universe: programmer/math ability)
- Ability to work well in a team is a plus (but we're willing to send in kids who prefer going solo)
- The search will begin in 15 years, so we have that long to prepare
- The location of the testing can be changed to whatever is needed--from a classroom to a coliseum. Nothing will be spared to ensure we find the best of the best.
- We've thought long and hard, but we have no other magic that will practically3 help us test the children besides the time spaces.
- We are aware that the nobles will try to bribe and cheat their way to getting their children chosen and want to actively combat that4
- It's safe to assume none of our proctors or magicians can be bribed or corrupted.
How can we effectively find the top 1,000 potential mages on the continent between the ages of 14-16?
1. Out of universe explanation: magic is similar to a mix of our world's programming and math. There is a congenital limit to how much energy one can hold at a time, but especially at the higher levels magic is more limited by your fluidity and skill with wielding it. As such, you can assume those who would be good programmers in our world would make excellent mages.
2. For example, if my 5 mages erect a compressed time space for 2 hours real world time, it will feel like 10 hours to them and they'll need to rest for 4 hours before erecting another compressed time space.
3. Teleportation magic is far too costly, and our emotion reading magics are both expensive energy-wise and far too inaccurate.
4. Note: cheating from the kids is perfectly fine (and may even be encouraged). A clever kid who can find holes in rules is something we'd love. What we don't want is for the system to be cheated by those outside the test not during the test.
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Some background
The gods who have watched over us for so long are clearly angry. They've sent us this terrible trial in the form of a giant dungeon and told us if we can't complete it they'll wipe out our continent and start over (our intel says the other continents have gotten much the same message with their own trials, but hell if we'll help them--this'll be hard enough for us alone). We're told it won't open for another 18 years and for Young Adult fiction reason #57, the only people who can enter are those under the age of 20.
After many discussions and much analysis, we (the "government") have decided that we're limiting the number of kids we'll let enter to 1,000 and we've made it known that in 15 years we'll begin searching for those chosen 1,000 (this'll give us a year to search and 2 years to train them before the dungeon opens).
Needless to say the whole schooling system is getting a major overhaul--every school wants the prestige of teaching one of the chosen thousand. Not to mention birth rates are at an all time high. Everyone wants to be able to say that their kid was one of the few that helped save us all. Or they may be interested in the rewards we're offering those chosen. Who knows.
Thanks to some recent breakthroughs from the Mage's Guild, we're able to generate a spell to put about 1,000 people in a compressed time space where time will move at 1/10'th the rate as outside. Because of this, we're able to realistically test in groups of 1,000 kids for 8 hours with 20 proctors.
Our problem
But here's the problem: how on earth do we test these kids to narrow down from the almost million kids in our age range? We want those who have strong physical attributes, so that they can go toe-to-toe physically with whatever they find in the dungeon. We need them to be quick rational thinkers and problem solvers--who knows what kind of puzzles the gods have chosen to employ. And we also need those with a strong aptitude for magic1.
We've discussed the idea of holding standardized written tests with our own proctors, but with how corrupt the nobility can be, we imagine that they'll bribe a test taker in a neighboring town (or maybe one even further) to get the test early.
The facts broken down...
- We need to narrow down from almost a million kids (ages 14-16) to 1,000
- We have the ability to test groups of about 1,000 kids at a time for 8 hours with 20 proctors
- We're judging children by the following criteria:
- Physical prowess
- Ability to think and act logically/rationally under pressure
- "Magic ability" (or out of universe: programmer/math ability)
- Ability to work well in a team is a plus (but we're willing to send in kids who prefer going solo)
- The search will begin in 15 years, so we have that long to prepare
- The location of the testing can be changed to whatever is needed--from a classroom to a coliseum. Nothing will be spared to ensure we find the best of the best.
- We've thought long and hard, but we have no other magic that will practically3 help us test the children besides the time spaces.
- We are aware that the nobles will try to bribe and cheat their way to getting their children chosen and want to actively combat that4
- It's safe to assume none of our proctors or magicians can be bribed or corrupted.
How can we effectively find the top 1,000 potential mages on the continent between the ages of 14-16?
1. Out of universe explanation: magic is similar to a mix of our world's programming and math. There is a congenital limit to how much energy one can hold at a time, but especially at the higher levels magic is more limited by your fluidity and skill with wielding it. As such, you can assume those who would be good programmers in our world would make excellent mages.
2. For example, if my 5 mages erect a compressed time space for 2 hours real world time, it will feel like 10 hours to them and they'll need to rest for 4 hours before erecting another compressed time space.
3. Teleportation magic is far too costly, and our emotion reading magics are both expensive energy-wise and far too inaccurate.
4. Note: cheating from the kids is perfectly fine (and may even be encouraged). A clever kid who can find holes in rules is something we'd love. What we don't want is for the system to be cheated by those outside the test not during the test.
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How willing are you to kill off an entire generation of children Battle Royale style?
– Separatrix
2 hours ago
You can train them kids to join the marines, for the physical and mental part. The magic part of the question is still kinda fuzzy though.
– Renan
2 hours ago
@Separatrix the fate of us all hangs in the balance so we're not super focused on the future past this at the moment. If that's the best chance we have at survival, we'll take it. (also we're only talking kids ages 14-16, so it wouldn't quite be the whole generation)
– scohe001
2 hours ago
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@Renan I tried to explain in the question, but magic aptitude is almost one for one what programming/math aptitude is here for us.
– scohe001
2 hours ago
@Separatrix Though the idea might work, I think you would have significant side effects depending on the scenario and what is forcing the Battle Royale Event on them.
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Some background
The gods who have watched over us for so long are clearly angry. They've sent us this terrible trial in the form of a giant dungeon and told us if we can't complete it they'll wipe out our continent and start over (our intel says the other continents have gotten much the same message with their own trials, but hell if we'll help them--this'll be hard enough for us alone). We're told it won't open for another 18 years and for Young Adult fiction reason #57, the only people who can enter are those under the age of 20.
After many discussions and much analysis, we (the "government") have decided that we're limiting the number of kids we'll let enter to 1,000 and we've made it known that in 15 years we'll begin searching for those chosen 1,000 (this'll give us a year to search and 2 years to train them before the dungeon opens).
Needless to say the whole schooling system is getting a major overhaul--every school wants the prestige of teaching one of the chosen thousand. Not to mention birth rates are at an all time high. Everyone wants to be able to say that their kid was one of the few that helped save us all. Or they may be interested in the rewards we're offering those chosen. Who knows.
Thanks to some recent breakthroughs from the Mage's Guild, we're able to generate a spell to put about 1,000 people in a compressed time space where time will move at 1/10'th the rate as outside. Because of this, we're able to realistically test in groups of 1,000 kids for 8 hours with 20 proctors.
Our problem
But here's the problem: how on earth do we test these kids to narrow down from the almost million kids in our age range? We want those who have strong physical attributes, so that they can go toe-to-toe physically with whatever they find in the dungeon. We need them to be quick rational thinkers and problem solvers--who knows what kind of puzzles the gods have chosen to employ. And we also need those with a strong aptitude for magic1.
We've discussed the idea of holding standardized written tests with our own proctors, but with how corrupt the nobility can be, we imagine that they'll bribe a test taker in a neighboring town (or maybe one even further) to get the test early.
The facts broken down...
- We need to narrow down from almost a million kids (ages 14-16) to 1,000
- We have the ability to test groups of about 1,000 kids at a time for 8 hours with 20 proctors
- We're judging children by the following criteria:
- Physical prowess
- Ability to think and act logically/rationally under pressure
- "Magic ability" (or out of universe: programmer/math ability)
- Ability to work well in a team is a plus (but we're willing to send in kids who prefer going solo)
- The search will begin in 15 years, so we have that long to prepare
- The location of the testing can be changed to whatever is needed--from a classroom to a coliseum. Nothing will be spared to ensure we find the best of the best.
- We've thought long and hard, but we have no other magic that will practically3 help us test the children besides the time spaces.
- We are aware that the nobles will try to bribe and cheat their way to getting their children chosen and want to actively combat that4
- It's safe to assume none of our proctors or magicians can be bribed or corrupted.
How can we effectively find the top 1,000 potential mages on the continent between the ages of 14-16?
1. Out of universe explanation: magic is similar to a mix of our world's programming and math. There is a congenital limit to how much energy one can hold at a time, but especially at the higher levels magic is more limited by your fluidity and skill with wielding it. As such, you can assume those who would be good programmers in our world would make excellent mages.
2. For example, if my 5 mages erect a compressed time space for 2 hours real world time, it will feel like 10 hours to them and they'll need to rest for 4 hours before erecting another compressed time space.
3. Teleportation magic is far too costly, and our emotion reading magics are both expensive energy-wise and far too inaccurate.
4. Note: cheating from the kids is perfectly fine (and may even be encouraged). A clever kid who can find holes in rules is something we'd love. What we don't want is for the system to be cheated by those outside the test not during the test.
society humans earth-like industrial-age
asked 2 hours ago
scohe001
5161413
Some background
The gods who have watched over us for so long are clearly angry. They've sent us this terrible trial in the form of a giant dungeon and told us if we can't complete it they'll wipe out our continent and start over (our intel says the other continents have gotten much the same message with their own trials, but hell if we'll help them--this'll be hard enough for us alone). We're told it won't open for another 18 years and for Young Adult fiction reason #57, the only people who can enter are those under the age of 20.
After many discussions and much analysis, we (the "government") have decided that we're limiting the number of kids we'll let enter to 1,000 and we've made it known that in 15 years we'll begin searching for those chosen 1,000 (this'll give us a year to search and 2 years to train them before the dungeon opens).
Needless to say the whole schooling system is getting a major overhaul--every school wants the prestige of teaching one of the chosen thousand. Not to mention birth rates are at an all time high. Everyone wants to be able to say that their kid was one of the few that helped save us all. Or they may be interested in the rewards we're offering those chosen. Who knows.
Thanks to some recent breakthroughs from the Mage's Guild, we're able to generate a spell to put about 1,000 people in a compressed time space where time will move at 1/10'th the rate as outside. Because of this, we're able to realistically test in groups of 1,000 kids for 8 hours with 20 proctors.
Our problem
But here's the problem: how on earth do we test these kids to narrow down from the almost million kids in our age range? We want those who have strong physical attributes, so that they can go toe-to-toe physically with whatever they find in the dungeon. We need them to be quick rational thinkers and problem solvers--who knows what kind of puzzles the gods have chosen to employ. And we also need those with a strong aptitude for magic1.
We've discussed the idea of holding standardized written tests with our own proctors, but with how corrupt the nobility can be, we imagine that they'll bribe a test taker in a neighboring town (or maybe one even further) to get the test early.
The facts broken down...
- We need to narrow down from almost a million kids (ages 14-16) to 1,000
- We have the ability to test groups of about 1,000 kids at a time for 8 hours with 20 proctors
- We're judging children by the following criteria:
- Physical prowess
- Ability to think and act logically/rationally under pressure
- "Magic ability" (or out of universe: programmer/math ability)
- Ability to work well in a team is a plus (but we're willing to send in kids who prefer going solo)
- The search will begin in 15 years, so we have that long to prepare
- The location of the testing can be changed to whatever is needed--from a classroom to a coliseum. Nothing will be spared to ensure we find the best of the best.
- We've thought long and hard, but we have no other magic that will practically3 help us test the children besides the time spaces.
- We are aware that the nobles will try to bribe and cheat their way to getting their children chosen and want to actively combat that4
- It's safe to assume none of our proctors or magicians can be bribed or corrupted.
How can we effectively find the top 1,000 potential mages on the continent between the ages of 14-16?
1. Out of universe explanation: magic is similar to a mix of our world's programming and math. There is a congenital limit to how much energy one can hold at a time, but especially at the higher levels magic is more limited by your fluidity and skill with wielding it. As such, you can assume those who would be good programmers in our world would make excellent mages.
2. For example, if my 5 mages erect a compressed time space for 2 hours real world time, it will feel like 10 hours to them and they'll need to rest for 4 hours before erecting another compressed time space.
3. Teleportation magic is far too costly, and our emotion reading magics are both expensive energy-wise and far too inaccurate.
4. Note: cheating from the kids is perfectly fine (and may even be encouraged). A clever kid who can find holes in rules is something we'd love. What we don't want is for the system to be cheated by those outside the test not during the test.
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How willing are you to kill off an entire generation of children Battle Royale style?
– Separatrix
2 hours ago
You can train them kids to join the marines, for the physical and mental part. The magic part of the question is still kinda fuzzy though.
– Renan
2 hours ago
@Separatrix the fate of us all hangs in the balance so we're not super focused on the future past this at the moment. If that's the best chance we have at survival, we'll take it. (also we're only talking kids ages 14-16, so it wouldn't quite be the whole generation)
– scohe001
2 hours ago
1
@Renan I tried to explain in the question, but magic aptitude is almost one for one what programming/math aptitude is here for us.
– scohe001
2 hours ago
@Separatrix Though the idea might work, I think you would have significant side effects depending on the scenario and what is forcing the Battle Royale Event on them.
– ArtificialSoul
2 hours ago
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How willing are you to kill off an entire generation of children Battle Royale style?
– Separatrix
2 hours ago
You can train them kids to join the marines, for the physical and mental part. The magic part of the question is still kinda fuzzy though.
– Renan
2 hours ago
@Separatrix the fate of us all hangs in the balance so we're not super focused on the future past this at the moment. If that's the best chance we have at survival, we'll take it. (also we're only talking kids ages 14-16, so it wouldn't quite be the whole generation)
– scohe001
2 hours ago
1
@Renan I tried to explain in the question, but magic aptitude is almost one for one what programming/math aptitude is here for us.
– scohe001
2 hours ago
@Separatrix Though the idea might work, I think you would have significant side effects depending on the scenario and what is forcing the Battle Royale Event on them.
– ArtificialSoul
2 hours ago
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How willing are you to kill off an entire generation of children Battle Royale style?
– Separatrix
2 hours ago
How willing are you to kill off an entire generation of children Battle Royale style?
– Separatrix
2 hours ago
You can train them kids to join the marines, for the physical and mental part. The magic part of the question is still kinda fuzzy though.
– Renan
2 hours ago
You can train them kids to join the marines, for the physical and mental part. The magic part of the question is still kinda fuzzy though.
– Renan
2 hours ago
@Separatrix the fate of us all hangs in the balance so we're not super focused on the future past this at the moment. If that's the best chance we have at survival, we'll take it. (also we're only talking kids ages 14-16, so it wouldn't quite be the whole generation)
– scohe001
2 hours ago
@Separatrix the fate of us all hangs in the balance so we're not super focused on the future past this at the moment. If that's the best chance we have at survival, we'll take it. (also we're only talking kids ages 14-16, so it wouldn't quite be the whole generation)
– scohe001
2 hours ago
1
1
@Renan I tried to explain in the question, but magic aptitude is almost one for one what programming/math aptitude is here for us.
– scohe001
2 hours ago
@Renan I tried to explain in the question, but magic aptitude is almost one for one what programming/math aptitude is here for us.
– scohe001
2 hours ago
@Separatrix Though the idea might work, I think you would have significant side effects depending on the scenario and what is forcing the Battle Royale Event on them.
– ArtificialSoul
2 hours ago
@Separatrix Though the idea might work, I think you would have significant side effects depending on the scenario and what is forcing the Battle Royale Event on them.
– ArtificialSoul
2 hours ago
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You start now, not in 15 years. You set up schools that have only one thing in mind. After 3 years kids have first test, then second after another 3 years and so on. The kids with best results are send to better schools. You don't narrow it by much. 1 million to 1k in 5 stages is just 25% at each step.
Each school level is harder in training those kids. And after 12 years when you have narrowed those few millions to 4 thousands you send them to super Uber BEst training camp there is.
You know, just like we do now with all those who are send to Olympics.
And rich people bribing their kids? You ever seen a rich parent bribing their kid way up to Olympics? And the kids will die in this dungeon. Why risk the possibility of losing heir when somebody else can do that job? Donnie didn't done bone spurs because they would look good on him. He did that to not die and have fun.
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This may sound a bit odd but... Crossword Puzzles?
This is actually how Bletchly Park, the british intelligence base that broke the enigma code looked for people with the correct sort of problem solving skills.
They put a load of Crosswords in the national papers with an advert saying soemthing similar to "Can you beat this in 5 minutes? if so write to us at [insert address] to hear about an exciting job offer" then once all those had written in they shipped them to a meeting and were sat down to do another one against the clock to identify the cheaters, and those that really were that good.
http://www.alaricstephen.com/main-featured/2016/9/18/the-cryptic-crossword-that-recruited-for-bletchley-park
You could easily sort out some form of trial that tests the basic abilities you are looking for and then whittle them down with another test then another, these days this could all be done online and realtively easily linking from facebook!
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Or (maybe) Cicada-3301 if you believe it's a recruitment tool for a Modern Day puzzle.
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Make dungeoneering a sport
Professional sports is an existing, effective model for finding the best of the best and making them even better. Start the National Mages League, which is a televised competition of dungeoneering skills, with a fixed schedule of matches, high pay for mage all-stars, and local teams with fan bases. 18 years is plenty of time to build a culture around the NML, with all young mages dreaming of making it to the big leagues. The best performers get to the highest levels in an organic, distributed way, without the need for intensive testing over a short period of time.
As a bonus, children who grow up aspiring to the NML will practice from a young age. There's no need to wait for 15 years before starting the selection or training process. It makes no sense to do nothing about this issue until 2 years before the deadline! Professional athletes pick up their sports at a young age, I imagine it's uncommon to start a sport at 16 and make it as a professional after only a couple of years.
Furthermore, the NML will build an upper eschelon of mages now, who can pass on their learnings for years to come. I expect that on average, modern sports teams would be able to beat sports teams from 100 years ago, due to improvements in training, diet, equipment, strategy, etc. You should start finding the best mages now, so that the next crop of mages are even better.
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This is definitely a fun solution that would allow me to build a lot more awesome characters ("Johnny always looked up to Hector, his NML hero and the holder of the #1 spot for 3 years in a row now. He used to rush to get the paper the day after Hector would play to study how he'd cunningly won this time."). Not to mention this will help ease tensions between the generations just before those that are able to enter the dungeon by letting them play some part in saving everyone as well. That being said, televising may be difficult in the industrial age ;)
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You start now, not in 15 years. You set up schools that have only one thing in mind. After 3 years kids have first test, then second after another 3 years and so on. The kids with best results are send to better schools. You don't narrow it by much. 1 million to 1k in 5 stages is just 25% at each step.
Each school level is harder in training those kids. And after 12 years when you have narrowed those few millions to 4 thousands you send them to super Uber BEst training camp there is.
You know, just like we do now with all those who are send to Olympics.
And rich people bribing their kids? You ever seen a rich parent bribing their kid way up to Olympics? And the kids will die in this dungeon. Why risk the possibility of losing heir when somebody else can do that job? Donnie didn't done bone spurs because they would look good on him. He did that to not die and have fun.
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You start now, not in 15 years. You set up schools that have only one thing in mind. After 3 years kids have first test, then second after another 3 years and so on. The kids with best results are send to better schools. You don't narrow it by much. 1 million to 1k in 5 stages is just 25% at each step.
Each school level is harder in training those kids. And after 12 years when you have narrowed those few millions to 4 thousands you send them to super Uber BEst training camp there is.
You know, just like we do now with all those who are send to Olympics.
And rich people bribing their kids? You ever seen a rich parent bribing their kid way up to Olympics? And the kids will die in this dungeon. Why risk the possibility of losing heir when somebody else can do that job? Donnie didn't done bone spurs because they would look good on him. He did that to not die and have fun.
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You start now, not in 15 years. You set up schools that have only one thing in mind. After 3 years kids have first test, then second after another 3 years and so on. The kids with best results are send to better schools. You don't narrow it by much. 1 million to 1k in 5 stages is just 25% at each step.
Each school level is harder in training those kids. And after 12 years when you have narrowed those few millions to 4 thousands you send them to super Uber BEst training camp there is.
You know, just like we do now with all those who are send to Olympics.
And rich people bribing their kids? You ever seen a rich parent bribing their kid way up to Olympics? And the kids will die in this dungeon. Why risk the possibility of losing heir when somebody else can do that job? Donnie didn't done bone spurs because they would look good on him. He did that to not die and have fun.
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SZCZERZO KÃ…ÂY
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You start now, not in 15 years. You set up schools that have only one thing in mind. After 3 years kids have first test, then second after another 3 years and so on. The kids with best results are send to better schools. You don't narrow it by much. 1 million to 1k in 5 stages is just 25% at each step.
Each school level is harder in training those kids. And after 12 years when you have narrowed those few millions to 4 thousands you send them to super Uber BEst training camp there is.
You know, just like we do now with all those who are send to Olympics.
And rich people bribing their kids? You ever seen a rich parent bribing their kid way up to Olympics? And the kids will die in this dungeon. Why risk the possibility of losing heir when somebody else can do that job? Donnie didn't done bone spurs because they would look good on him. He did that to not die and have fun.
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This may sound a bit odd but... Crossword Puzzles?
This is actually how Bletchly Park, the british intelligence base that broke the enigma code looked for people with the correct sort of problem solving skills.
They put a load of Crosswords in the national papers with an advert saying soemthing similar to "Can you beat this in 5 minutes? if so write to us at [insert address] to hear about an exciting job offer" then once all those had written in they shipped them to a meeting and were sat down to do another one against the clock to identify the cheaters, and those that really were that good.
http://www.alaricstephen.com/main-featured/2016/9/18/the-cryptic-crossword-that-recruited-for-bletchley-park
You could easily sort out some form of trial that tests the basic abilities you are looking for and then whittle them down with another test then another, these days this could all be done online and realtively easily linking from facebook!
answered 1 hour ago
Blade Wraith
6,8951139
Or (maybe) Cicada-3301 if you believe it's a recruitment tool for a Modern Day puzzle.
– hszmv
1 hour ago
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This may sound a bit odd but... Crossword Puzzles?
This is actually how Bletchly Park, the british intelligence base that broke the enigma code looked for people with the correct sort of problem solving skills.
They put a load of Crosswords in the national papers with an advert saying soemthing similar to "Can you beat this in 5 minutes? if so write to us at [insert address] to hear about an exciting job offer" then once all those had written in they shipped them to a meeting and were sat down to do another one against the clock to identify the cheaters, and those that really were that good.
http://www.alaricstephen.com/main-featured/2016/9/18/the-cryptic-crossword-that-recruited-for-bletchley-park
You could easily sort out some form of trial that tests the basic abilities you are looking for and then whittle them down with another test then another, these days this could all be done online and realtively easily linking from facebook!
answered 1 hour ago
Blade Wraith
6,8951139
Or (maybe) Cicada-3301 if you believe it's a recruitment tool for a Modern Day puzzle.
– hszmv
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
This may sound a bit odd but... Crossword Puzzles?
This is actually how Bletchly Park, the british intelligence base that broke the enigma code looked for people with the correct sort of problem solving skills.
They put a load of Crosswords in the national papers with an advert saying soemthing similar to "Can you beat this in 5 minutes? if so write to us at [insert address] to hear about an exciting job offer" then once all those had written in they shipped them to a meeting and were sat down to do another one against the clock to identify the cheaters, and those that really were that good.
http://www.alaricstephen.com/main-featured/2016/9/18/the-cryptic-crossword-that-recruited-for-bletchley-park
You could easily sort out some form of trial that tests the basic abilities you are looking for and then whittle them down with another test then another, these days this could all be done online and realtively easily linking from facebook!
answered 1 hour ago
Blade Wraith
6,8951139
This may sound a bit odd but... Crossword Puzzles?
This is actually how Bletchly Park, the british intelligence base that broke the enigma code looked for people with the correct sort of problem solving skills.
They put a load of Crosswords in the national papers with an advert saying soemthing similar to "Can you beat this in 5 minutes? if so write to us at [insert address] to hear about an exciting job offer" then once all those had written in they shipped them to a meeting and were sat down to do another one against the clock to identify the cheaters, and those that really were that good.
http://www.alaricstephen.com/main-featured/2016/9/18/the-cryptic-crossword-that-recruited-for-bletchley-park
You could easily sort out some form of trial that tests the basic abilities you are looking for and then whittle them down with another test then another, these days this could all be done online and realtively easily linking from facebook!
answered 1 hour ago
Blade Wraith
6,8951139
answered 1 hour ago
Blade Wraith
6,8951139
answered 1 hour ago
Blade Wraith
6,8951139
answered 1 hour ago
Blade Wraith
6,8951139
6,8951139
Or (maybe) Cicada-3301 if you believe it's a recruitment tool for a Modern Day puzzle.
– hszmv
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
Or (maybe) Cicada-3301 if you believe it's a recruitment tool for a Modern Day puzzle.
– hszmv
1 hour ago
Or (maybe) Cicada-3301 if you believe it's a recruitment tool for a Modern Day puzzle.
– hszmv
1 hour ago
Or (maybe) Cicada-3301 if you believe it's a recruitment tool for a Modern Day puzzle.
– hszmv
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
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Make dungeoneering a sport
Professional sports is an existing, effective model for finding the best of the best and making them even better. Start the National Mages League, which is a televised competition of dungeoneering skills, with a fixed schedule of matches, high pay for mage all-stars, and local teams with fan bases. 18 years is plenty of time to build a culture around the NML, with all young mages dreaming of making it to the big leagues. The best performers get to the highest levels in an organic, distributed way, without the need for intensive testing over a short period of time.
As a bonus, children who grow up aspiring to the NML will practice from a young age. There's no need to wait for 15 years before starting the selection or training process. It makes no sense to do nothing about this issue until 2 years before the deadline! Professional athletes pick up their sports at a young age, I imagine it's uncommon to start a sport at 16 and make it as a professional after only a couple of years.
Furthermore, the NML will build an upper eschelon of mages now, who can pass on their learnings for years to come. I expect that on average, modern sports teams would be able to beat sports teams from 100 years ago, due to improvements in training, diet, equipment, strategy, etc. You should start finding the best mages now, so that the next crop of mages are even better.
answered 1 hour ago
Nuclear Wang
1,2452610
This is definitely a fun solution that would allow me to build a lot more awesome characters ("Johnny always looked up to Hector, his NML hero and the holder of the #1 spot for 3 years in a row now. He used to rush to get the paper the day after Hector would play to study how he'd cunningly won this time."). Not to mention this will help ease tensions between the generations just before those that are able to enter the dungeon by letting them play some part in saving everyone as well. That being said, televising may be difficult in the industrial age ;)
– scohe001
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
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Make dungeoneering a sport
Professional sports is an existing, effective model for finding the best of the best and making them even better. Start the National Mages League, which is a televised competition of dungeoneering skills, with a fixed schedule of matches, high pay for mage all-stars, and local teams with fan bases. 18 years is plenty of time to build a culture around the NML, with all young mages dreaming of making it to the big leagues. The best performers get to the highest levels in an organic, distributed way, without the need for intensive testing over a short period of time.
As a bonus, children who grow up aspiring to the NML will practice from a young age. There's no need to wait for 15 years before starting the selection or training process. It makes no sense to do nothing about this issue until 2 years before the deadline! Professional athletes pick up their sports at a young age, I imagine it's uncommon to start a sport at 16 and make it as a professional after only a couple of years.
Furthermore, the NML will build an upper eschelon of mages now, who can pass on their learnings for years to come. I expect that on average, modern sports teams would be able to beat sports teams from 100 years ago, due to improvements in training, diet, equipment, strategy, etc. You should start finding the best mages now, so that the next crop of mages are even better.
answered 1 hour ago
Nuclear Wang
1,2452610
This is definitely a fun solution that would allow me to build a lot more awesome characters ("Johnny always looked up to Hector, his NML hero and the holder of the #1 spot for 3 years in a row now. He used to rush to get the paper the day after Hector would play to study how he'd cunningly won this time."). Not to mention this will help ease tensions between the generations just before those that are able to enter the dungeon by letting them play some part in saving everyone as well. That being said, televising may be difficult in the industrial age ;)
– scohe001
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
Make dungeoneering a sport
Professional sports is an existing, effective model for finding the best of the best and making them even better. Start the National Mages League, which is a televised competition of dungeoneering skills, with a fixed schedule of matches, high pay for mage all-stars, and local teams with fan bases. 18 years is plenty of time to build a culture around the NML, with all young mages dreaming of making it to the big leagues. The best performers get to the highest levels in an organic, distributed way, without the need for intensive testing over a short period of time.
As a bonus, children who grow up aspiring to the NML will practice from a young age. There's no need to wait for 15 years before starting the selection or training process. It makes no sense to do nothing about this issue until 2 years before the deadline! Professional athletes pick up their sports at a young age, I imagine it's uncommon to start a sport at 16 and make it as a professional after only a couple of years.
Furthermore, the NML will build an upper eschelon of mages now, who can pass on their learnings for years to come. I expect that on average, modern sports teams would be able to beat sports teams from 100 years ago, due to improvements in training, diet, equipment, strategy, etc. You should start finding the best mages now, so that the next crop of mages are even better.
answered 1 hour ago
Nuclear Wang
1,2452610
Make dungeoneering a sport
Professional sports is an existing, effective model for finding the best of the best and making them even better. Start the National Mages League, which is a televised competition of dungeoneering skills, with a fixed schedule of matches, high pay for mage all-stars, and local teams with fan bases. 18 years is plenty of time to build a culture around the NML, with all young mages dreaming of making it to the big leagues. The best performers get to the highest levels in an organic, distributed way, without the need for intensive testing over a short period of time.
As a bonus, children who grow up aspiring to the NML will practice from a young age. There's no need to wait for 15 years before starting the selection or training process. It makes no sense to do nothing about this issue until 2 years before the deadline! Professional athletes pick up their sports at a young age, I imagine it's uncommon to start a sport at 16 and make it as a professional after only a couple of years.
Furthermore, the NML will build an upper eschelon of mages now, who can pass on their learnings for years to come. I expect that on average, modern sports teams would be able to beat sports teams from 100 years ago, due to improvements in training, diet, equipment, strategy, etc. You should start finding the best mages now, so that the next crop of mages are even better.
answered 1 hour ago
Nuclear Wang
1,2452610
answered 1 hour ago
Nuclear Wang
1,2452610
answered 1 hour ago
Nuclear Wang
1,2452610
answered 1 hour ago
Nuclear Wang
1,2452610
1,2452610
This is definitely a fun solution that would allow me to build a lot more awesome characters ("Johnny always looked up to Hector, his NML hero and the holder of the #1 spot for 3 years in a row now. He used to rush to get the paper the day after Hector would play to study how he'd cunningly won this time."). Not to mention this will help ease tensions between the generations just before those that are able to enter the dungeon by letting them play some part in saving everyone as well. That being said, televising may be difficult in the industrial age ;)
– scohe001
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
This is definitely a fun solution that would allow me to build a lot more awesome characters ("Johnny always looked up to Hector, his NML hero and the holder of the #1 spot for 3 years in a row now. He used to rush to get the paper the day after Hector would play to study how he'd cunningly won this time."). Not to mention this will help ease tensions between the generations just before those that are able to enter the dungeon by letting them play some part in saving everyone as well. That being said, televising may be difficult in the industrial age ;)
– scohe001
1 hour ago
This is definitely a fun solution that would allow me to build a lot more awesome characters ("Johnny always looked up to Hector, his NML hero and the holder of the #1 spot for 3 years in a row now. He used to rush to get the paper the day after Hector would play to study how he'd cunningly won this time."). Not to mention this will help ease tensions between the generations just before those that are able to enter the dungeon by letting them play some part in saving everyone as well. That being said, televising may be difficult in the industrial age ;)
– scohe001
1 hour ago
This is definitely a fun solution that would allow me to build a lot more awesome characters ("Johnny always looked up to Hector, his NML hero and the holder of the #1 spot for 3 years in a row now. He used to rush to get the paper the day after Hector would play to study how he'd cunningly won this time."). Not to mention this will help ease tensions between the generations just before those that are able to enter the dungeon by letting them play some part in saving everyone as well. That being said, televising may be difficult in the industrial age ;)
– scohe001
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
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How willing are you to kill off an entire generation of children Battle Royale style?
– Separatrix
2 hours ago
You can train them kids to join the marines, for the physical and mental part. The magic part of the question is still kinda fuzzy though.
– Renan
2 hours ago
@Separatrix the fate of us all hangs in the balance so we're not super focused on the future past this at the moment. If that's the best chance we have at survival, we'll take it. (also we're only talking kids ages 14-16, so it wouldn't quite be the whole generation)
– scohe001
2 hours ago
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@Renan I tried to explain in the question, but magic aptitude is almost one for one what programming/math aptitude is here for us.
– scohe001
2 hours ago
@Separatrix Though the idea might work, I think you would have significant side effects depending on the scenario and what is forcing the Battle Royale Event on them.
– ArtificialSoul
2 hours ago