Is LaTeX3 ever going standalone or has this goal been abandoned?

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I recall that earlier (over 10 years ago), producing a standalone compiler of LaTeX3 code was a project's goal. Today, this goal is no more articulated. Instead, the developers stress today that LaTeX is "not a stand-alone typesetting program". While there may be valid technical reasons for either decision, it is not my question here. My question is whether the goal of producing a standalone LaTeX3 compiler (which works independently of TeX/LaTeX2e) has been given up.










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  • As far as I remember LaTeX3 was never intended to replace an engine (compiler) but only to be the successor of the LaTeX2e format. The developers still try to achieve the latter, i.e. producing a sensible "API" and when that is ready there shall be a format.
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I recall that earlier (over 10 years ago), producing a standalone compiler of LaTeX3 code was a project's goal. Today, this goal is no more articulated. Instead, the developers stress today that LaTeX is "not a stand-alone typesetting program". While there may be valid technical reasons for either decision, it is not my question here. My question is whether the goal of producing a standalone LaTeX3 compiler (which works independently of TeX/LaTeX2e) has been given up.










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  • As far as I remember LaTeX3 was never intended to replace an engine (compiler) but only to be the successor of the LaTeX2e format. The developers still try to achieve the latter, i.e. producing a sensible "API" and when that is ready there shall be a format.
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I recall that earlier (over 10 years ago), producing a standalone compiler of LaTeX3 code was a project's goal. Today, this goal is no more articulated. Instead, the developers stress today that LaTeX is "not a stand-alone typesetting program". While there may be valid technical reasons for either decision, it is not my question here. My question is whether the goal of producing a standalone LaTeX3 compiler (which works independently of TeX/LaTeX2e) has been given up.










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I recall that earlier (over 10 years ago), producing a standalone compiler of LaTeX3 code was a project's goal. Today, this goal is no more articulated. Instead, the developers stress today that LaTeX is "not a stand-alone typesetting program". While there may be valid technical reasons for either decision, it is not my question here. My question is whether the goal of producing a standalone LaTeX3 compiler (which works independently of TeX/LaTeX2e) has been given up.







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  • As far as I remember LaTeX3 was never intended to replace an engine (compiler) but only to be the successor of the LaTeX2e format. The developers still try to achieve the latter, i.e. producing a sensible "API" and when that is ready there shall be a format.
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  • As far as I remember LaTeX3 was never intended to replace an engine (compiler) but only to be the successor of the LaTeX2e format. The developers still try to achieve the latter, i.e. producing a sensible "API" and when that is ready there shall be a format.
    – TeXnician
    1 hour ago















As far as I remember LaTeX3 was never intended to replace an engine (compiler) but only to be the successor of the LaTeX2e format. The developers still try to achieve the latter, i.e. producing a sensible "API" and when that is ready there shall be a format.
– TeXnician
1 hour ago




As far as I remember LaTeX3 was never intended to replace an engine (compiler) but only to be the successor of the LaTeX2e format. The developers still try to achieve the latter, i.e. producing a sensible "API" and when that is ready there shall be a format.
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The LaTeX team are macro programmers, and the aim of LaTeX3 work has therefore always been in the form either of packages or a stand-alone TeX format. Work over many years suggests that to delivery for users today, creating code which is loadable as LaTeX2e packages is most productive. That does not mean a new format is ruled out. However, a lot of materials was is likely to be added in package mode first. For example, we are currently working on tagged PDF: this needs to work now, and thus has to integrate into LaTeX2e.



It is probably more likely/easy for the team to provide 'tools' (binaries or scripts) than was the case in the past: see for example l3build. That stems from the availability of Lua in all modern TeX systems as a scripting set up.






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    The LaTeX team are macro programmers, and the aim of LaTeX3 work has therefore always been in the form either of packages or a stand-alone TeX format. Work over many years suggests that to delivery for users today, creating code which is loadable as LaTeX2e packages is most productive. That does not mean a new format is ruled out. However, a lot of materials was is likely to be added in package mode first. For example, we are currently working on tagged PDF: this needs to work now, and thus has to integrate into LaTeX2e.



    It is probably more likely/easy for the team to provide 'tools' (binaries or scripts) than was the case in the past: see for example l3build. That stems from the availability of Lua in all modern TeX systems as a scripting set up.






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      The LaTeX team are macro programmers, and the aim of LaTeX3 work has therefore always been in the form either of packages or a stand-alone TeX format. Work over many years suggests that to delivery for users today, creating code which is loadable as LaTeX2e packages is most productive. That does not mean a new format is ruled out. However, a lot of materials was is likely to be added in package mode first. For example, we are currently working on tagged PDF: this needs to work now, and thus has to integrate into LaTeX2e.



      It is probably more likely/easy for the team to provide 'tools' (binaries or scripts) than was the case in the past: see for example l3build. That stems from the availability of Lua in all modern TeX systems as a scripting set up.






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        The LaTeX team are macro programmers, and the aim of LaTeX3 work has therefore always been in the form either of packages or a stand-alone TeX format. Work over many years suggests that to delivery for users today, creating code which is loadable as LaTeX2e packages is most productive. That does not mean a new format is ruled out. However, a lot of materials was is likely to be added in package mode first. For example, we are currently working on tagged PDF: this needs to work now, and thus has to integrate into LaTeX2e.



        It is probably more likely/easy for the team to provide 'tools' (binaries or scripts) than was the case in the past: see for example l3build. That stems from the availability of Lua in all modern TeX systems as a scripting set up.






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        The LaTeX team are macro programmers, and the aim of LaTeX3 work has therefore always been in the form either of packages or a stand-alone TeX format. Work over many years suggests that to delivery for users today, creating code which is loadable as LaTeX2e packages is most productive. That does not mean a new format is ruled out. However, a lot of materials was is likely to be added in package mode first. For example, we are currently working on tagged PDF: this needs to work now, and thus has to integrate into LaTeX2e.



        It is probably more likely/easy for the team to provide 'tools' (binaries or scripts) than was the case in the past: see for example l3build. That stems from the availability of Lua in all modern TeX systems as a scripting set up.







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