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Does the fighter brute subclass extra damage die work with the Monk martial arts and flurry of blows?
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I am considering a build that would start with Monk then multiclass to Fighter up to level 3 to get the archetype brute. Would the extra damage die from the brute subclass still get added to the monks martial arts and flurry of blows?
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I am considering a build that would start with Monk then multiclass to Fighter up to level 3 to get the archetype brute. Would the extra damage die from the brute subclass still get added to the monks martial arts and flurry of blows?
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Where is this fighter subclass from? UA?
– Szega
1 hour ago
@Szega Yes
– NathanS
1 hour ago
Please note that Unearthed Arcana is not tuned for Multiclassing.
– NautArch
1 hour ago
in a home campaign I can multiclass with unearthed arcana features if I wish or am I wrong?
– Eternallord66
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@Eternallord66 You definitely can. NautArch was just advising that it may not be perfectly balanced as Unearthed Arcana is playtest material and still undergoing changes.
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I am considering a build that would start with Monk then multiclass to Fighter up to level 3 to get the archetype brute. Would the extra damage die from the brute subclass still get added to the monks martial arts and flurry of blows?
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I am considering a build that would start with Monk then multiclass to Fighter up to level 3 to get the archetype brute. Would the extra damage die from the brute subclass still get added to the monks martial arts and flurry of blows?
dnd-5e monk fighter unearthed-arcana fighting-style
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Where is this fighter subclass from? UA?
– Szega
1 hour ago
@Szega Yes
– NathanS
1 hour ago
Please note that Unearthed Arcana is not tuned for Multiclassing.
– NautArch
1 hour ago
in a home campaign I can multiclass with unearthed arcana features if I wish or am I wrong?
– Eternallord66
59 mins ago
@Eternallord66 You definitely can. NautArch was just advising that it may not be perfectly balanced as Unearthed Arcana is playtest material and still undergoing changes.
– David Coffron
40 mins ago
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Where is this fighter subclass from? UA?
– Szega
1 hour ago
@Szega Yes
– NathanS
1 hour ago
Please note that Unearthed Arcana is not tuned for Multiclassing.
– NautArch
1 hour ago
in a home campaign I can multiclass with unearthed arcana features if I wish or am I wrong?
– Eternallord66
59 mins ago
@Eternallord66 You definitely can. NautArch was just advising that it may not be perfectly balanced as Unearthed Arcana is playtest material and still undergoing changes.
– David Coffron
40 mins ago
Where is this fighter subclass from? UA?
– Szega
1 hour ago
Where is this fighter subclass from? UA?
– Szega
1 hour ago
@Szega Yes
– NathanS
1 hour ago
@Szega Yes
– NathanS
1 hour ago
Please note that Unearthed Arcana is not tuned for Multiclassing.
– NautArch
1 hour ago
Please note that Unearthed Arcana is not tuned for Multiclassing.
– NautArch
1 hour ago
in a home campaign I can multiclass with unearthed arcana features if I wish or am I wrong?
– Eternallord66
59 mins ago
in a home campaign I can multiclass with unearthed arcana features if I wish or am I wrong?
– Eternallord66
59 mins ago
@Eternallord66 You definitely can. NautArch was just advising that it may not be perfectly balanced as Unearthed Arcana is playtest material and still undergoing changes.
– David Coffron
40 mins ago
@Eternallord66 You definitely can. NautArch was just advising that it may not be perfectly balanced as Unearthed Arcana is playtest material and still undergoing changes.
– David Coffron
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Not with unarmed strikes
As of the first Player's Handbook errata unarmed strikes no longer count as weapons.
Instead of using a weapon to make a melee weapon attack, you can use an un-armed [sic] strike: a punch, kick, head-butt, or similar forceful blow (none of which count as weapons).
The Brute Damage requires a weapon:
Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon's damage increases
This means that flurry of blows can never use Brute Damage as it only uses unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action.
You could use a Monk Weapon with Martial Arts
Martial Arts affects certain weapons in addition to unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
You can use Dexterity instead of Strength for the attack and damage rolls of your unarmed strikes and monk weapons.
You can roll a d4 in place of the normal damage of your unarmed strike or monk weapon.
If using a monk weapon, the Brute Damage would apply.
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Since the question specifically calls it out, you should mention that "Flurry of Blows" does NOT use monk weapons, only unarmed strikes so those would not stack. "Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action."
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The Brute's Damage is not added to unarmed strikes
The Brute archetype says:
Brute Force
Starting at 3rd level, you’re able to strike with your weapons with especially brutal force. Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon’s damage increases by an amount based on your level in this class, as shown on the Brute Bonus Damage table.
Even though unarmed strike is considered a weapon attack, it is not considered a weapon, so the extra damage from Brute Force would not be added to it as it specifically says "hit with a weapon" rather than "make a melee weapon attack" like most features do, although it would of course still be added to any weapon attacks you make with a weapon.
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2 Answers
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Not with unarmed strikes
As of the first Player's Handbook errata unarmed strikes no longer count as weapons.
Instead of using a weapon to make a melee weapon attack, you can use an un-armed [sic] strike: a punch, kick, head-butt, or similar forceful blow (none of which count as weapons).
The Brute Damage requires a weapon:
Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon's damage increases
This means that flurry of blows can never use Brute Damage as it only uses unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action.
You could use a Monk Weapon with Martial Arts
Martial Arts affects certain weapons in addition to unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
You can use Dexterity instead of Strength for the attack and damage rolls of your unarmed strikes and monk weapons.
You can roll a d4 in place of the normal damage of your unarmed strike or monk weapon.
If using a monk weapon, the Brute Damage would apply.
answered 1 hour ago
David Coffron
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Since the question specifically calls it out, you should mention that "Flurry of Blows" does NOT use monk weapons, only unarmed strikes so those would not stack. "Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action."
– MivaScott
21 mins ago
@MivaScott added. Thanks
– David Coffron
15 mins ago
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up vote
5
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Not with unarmed strikes
As of the first Player's Handbook errata unarmed strikes no longer count as weapons.
Instead of using a weapon to make a melee weapon attack, you can use an un-armed [sic] strike: a punch, kick, head-butt, or similar forceful blow (none of which count as weapons).
The Brute Damage requires a weapon:
Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon's damage increases
This means that flurry of blows can never use Brute Damage as it only uses unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action.
You could use a Monk Weapon with Martial Arts
Martial Arts affects certain weapons in addition to unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
You can use Dexterity instead of Strength for the attack and damage rolls of your unarmed strikes and monk weapons.
You can roll a d4 in place of the normal damage of your unarmed strike or monk weapon.
If using a monk weapon, the Brute Damage would apply.
answered 1 hour ago
David Coffron
29.9k2103203
1
Since the question specifically calls it out, you should mention that "Flurry of Blows" does NOT use monk weapons, only unarmed strikes so those would not stack. "Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action."
– MivaScott
21 mins ago
@MivaScott added. Thanks
– David Coffron
15 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
5
down vote
up vote
5
down vote
Not with unarmed strikes
As of the first Player's Handbook errata unarmed strikes no longer count as weapons.
Instead of using a weapon to make a melee weapon attack, you can use an un-armed [sic] strike: a punch, kick, head-butt, or similar forceful blow (none of which count as weapons).
The Brute Damage requires a weapon:
Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon's damage increases
This means that flurry of blows can never use Brute Damage as it only uses unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action.
You could use a Monk Weapon with Martial Arts
Martial Arts affects certain weapons in addition to unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
You can use Dexterity instead of Strength for the attack and damage rolls of your unarmed strikes and monk weapons.
You can roll a d4 in place of the normal damage of your unarmed strike or monk weapon.
If using a monk weapon, the Brute Damage would apply.
answered 1 hour ago
David Coffron
29.9k2103203
Not with unarmed strikes
As of the first Player's Handbook errata unarmed strikes no longer count as weapons.
Instead of using a weapon to make a melee weapon attack, you can use an un-armed [sic] strike: a punch, kick, head-butt, or similar forceful blow (none of which count as weapons).
The Brute Damage requires a weapon:
Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon's damage increases
This means that flurry of blows can never use Brute Damage as it only uses unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action.
You could use a Monk Weapon with Martial Arts
Martial Arts affects certain weapons in addition to unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
You can use Dexterity instead of Strength for the attack and damage rolls of your unarmed strikes and monk weapons.
You can roll a d4 in place of the normal damage of your unarmed strike or monk weapon.
If using a monk weapon, the Brute Damage would apply.
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Since the question specifically calls it out, you should mention that "Flurry of Blows" does NOT use monk weapons, only unarmed strikes so those would not stack. "Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action."
– MivaScott
21 mins ago
@MivaScott added. Thanks
– David Coffron
15 mins ago
add a comment |Â
1
Since the question specifically calls it out, you should mention that "Flurry of Blows" does NOT use monk weapons, only unarmed strikes so those would not stack. "Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action."
– MivaScott
21 mins ago
@MivaScott added. Thanks
– David Coffron
15 mins ago
1
1
Since the question specifically calls it out, you should mention that "Flurry of Blows" does NOT use monk weapons, only unarmed strikes so those would not stack. "Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action."
– MivaScott
21 mins ago
Since the question specifically calls it out, you should mention that "Flurry of Blows" does NOT use monk weapons, only unarmed strikes so those would not stack. "Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action."
– MivaScott
21 mins ago
@MivaScott added. Thanks
– David Coffron
15 mins ago
@MivaScott added. Thanks
– David Coffron
15 mins ago
add a comment |Â
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The Brute's Damage is not added to unarmed strikes
The Brute archetype says:
Brute Force
Starting at 3rd level, you’re able to strike with your weapons with especially brutal force. Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon’s damage increases by an amount based on your level in this class, as shown on the Brute Bonus Damage table.
Even though unarmed strike is considered a weapon attack, it is not considered a weapon, so the extra damage from Brute Force would not be added to it as it specifically says "hit with a weapon" rather than "make a melee weapon attack" like most features do, although it would of course still be added to any weapon attacks you make with a weapon.
answered 1 hour ago
NathanS
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up vote
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The Brute's Damage is not added to unarmed strikes
The Brute archetype says:
Brute Force
Starting at 3rd level, you’re able to strike with your weapons with especially brutal force. Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon’s damage increases by an amount based on your level in this class, as shown on the Brute Bonus Damage table.
Even though unarmed strike is considered a weapon attack, it is not considered a weapon, so the extra damage from Brute Force would not be added to it as it specifically says "hit with a weapon" rather than "make a melee weapon attack" like most features do, although it would of course still be added to any weapon attacks you make with a weapon.
answered 1 hour ago
NathanS
18.2k675193
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The Brute's Damage is not added to unarmed strikes
The Brute archetype says:
Brute Force
Starting at 3rd level, you’re able to strike with your weapons with especially brutal force. Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon’s damage increases by an amount based on your level in this class, as shown on the Brute Bonus Damage table.
Even though unarmed strike is considered a weapon attack, it is not considered a weapon, so the extra damage from Brute Force would not be added to it as it specifically says "hit with a weapon" rather than "make a melee weapon attack" like most features do, although it would of course still be added to any weapon attacks you make with a weapon.
answered 1 hour ago
NathanS
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The Brute's Damage is not added to unarmed strikes
The Brute archetype says:
Brute Force
Starting at 3rd level, you’re able to strike with your weapons with especially brutal force. Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon’s damage increases by an amount based on your level in this class, as shown on the Brute Bonus Damage table.
Even though unarmed strike is considered a weapon attack, it is not considered a weapon, so the extra damage from Brute Force would not be added to it as it specifically says "hit with a weapon" rather than "make a melee weapon attack" like most features do, although it would of course still be added to any weapon attacks you make with a weapon.
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Where is this fighter subclass from? UA?
– Szega
1 hour ago
@Szega Yes
– NathanS
1 hour ago
Please note that Unearthed Arcana is not tuned for Multiclassing.
– NautArch
1 hour ago
in a home campaign I can multiclass with unearthed arcana features if I wish or am I wrong?
– Eternallord66
59 mins ago
@Eternallord66 You definitely can. NautArch was just advising that it may not be perfectly balanced as Unearthed Arcana is playtest material and still undergoing changes.
– David Coffron
40 mins ago