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Does the Brute fighter's extra damage die get added to the monk's Martial Arts and Flurry of Blows attacks?
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I am considering a build that would start with monk, then multiclass to fighter up to level 3 to get the Brute archetype (from Unearthed Arcana: Three Subclasses).
Would the extra damage die from the Brute subclass still get added to the monk's Martial Arts and Flurry of Blows attacks?
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I am considering a build that would start with monk, then multiclass to fighter up to level 3 to get the Brute archetype (from Unearthed Arcana: Three Subclasses).
Would the extra damage die from the Brute subclass still get added to the monk's Martial Arts and Flurry of Blows attacks?
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Where is this fighter subclass from? UA?
– Szega
6 hours ago
@Szega Yes
– NathanS
6 hours ago
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Please note that Unearthed Arcana is not tuned for Multiclassing.
– NautArch
6 hours ago
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@Eternallord66 You definitely can. NautArch was just advising that it may not be perfectly balanced as Unearthed Arcana is playtest material and still undergoing changes.
– David Coffron
5 hours ago
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Yes, my apologies if that came off as a You Can Not Do This At All :) But did want to let it be known that there may be unknown interactions that can make multiclassing with UA problematic at times.
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I am considering a build that would start with monk, then multiclass to fighter up to level 3 to get the Brute archetype (from Unearthed Arcana: Three Subclasses).
Would the extra damage die from the Brute subclass still get added to the monk's Martial Arts and Flurry of Blows attacks?
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I am considering a build that would start with monk, then multiclass to fighter up to level 3 to get the Brute archetype (from Unearthed Arcana: Three Subclasses).
Would the extra damage die from the Brute subclass still get added to the monk's Martial Arts and Flurry of Blows attacks?
dnd-5e monk damage fighter unearthed-arcana
dnd-5e monk damage fighter unearthed-arcana
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Where is this fighter subclass from? UA?
– Szega
6 hours ago
@Szega Yes
– NathanS
6 hours ago
2
Please note that Unearthed Arcana is not tuned for Multiclassing.
– NautArch
6 hours ago
1
@Eternallord66 You definitely can. NautArch was just advising that it may not be perfectly balanced as Unearthed Arcana is playtest material and still undergoing changes.
– David Coffron
5 hours ago
1
Yes, my apologies if that came off as a You Can Not Do This At All :) But did want to let it be known that there may be unknown interactions that can make multiclassing with UA problematic at times.
– NautArch
5 hours ago
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Where is this fighter subclass from? UA?
– Szega
6 hours ago
@Szega Yes
– NathanS
6 hours ago
2
Please note that Unearthed Arcana is not tuned for Multiclassing.
– NautArch
6 hours ago
1
@Eternallord66 You definitely can. NautArch was just advising that it may not be perfectly balanced as Unearthed Arcana is playtest material and still undergoing changes.
– David Coffron
5 hours ago
1
Yes, my apologies if that came off as a You Can Not Do This At All :) But did want to let it be known that there may be unknown interactions that can make multiclassing with UA problematic at times.
– NautArch
5 hours ago
Where is this fighter subclass from? UA?
– Szega
6 hours ago
Where is this fighter subclass from? UA?
– Szega
6 hours ago
@Szega Yes
– NathanS
6 hours ago
@Szega Yes
– NathanS
6 hours ago
2
2
Please note that Unearthed Arcana is not tuned for Multiclassing.
– NautArch
6 hours ago
Please note that Unearthed Arcana is not tuned for Multiclassing.
– NautArch
6 hours ago
1
1
@Eternallord66 You definitely can. NautArch was just advising that it may not be perfectly balanced as Unearthed Arcana is playtest material and still undergoing changes.
– David Coffron
5 hours ago
@Eternallord66 You definitely can. NautArch was just advising that it may not be perfectly balanced as Unearthed Arcana is playtest material and still undergoing changes.
– David Coffron
5 hours ago
1
1
Yes, my apologies if that came off as a You Can Not Do This At All :) But did want to let it be known that there may be unknown interactions that can make multiclassing with UA problematic at times.
– NautArch
5 hours ago
Yes, my apologies if that came off as a You Can Not Do This At All :) But did want to let it be known that there may be unknown interactions that can make multiclassing with UA problematic at times.
– NautArch
5 hours ago
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Not with unarmed strikes
As of the first Player's Handbook errata unarmed strikes no longer count as weapons.
Instead of using a weapon to make a melee weapon attack, you can use an un-armed [sic] strike: a punch, kick, head-butt, or similar forceful blow (none of which count as weapons).
The Brute Damage requires a weapon:
Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon's damage increases
This means that Flurry of Blows can not use Brute Damage as it only uses unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action.
You could use a Monk Weapon with Martial Arts
Martial Arts affects certain weapons in addition to unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
You can use Dexterity instead of Strength for the attack and damage rolls of your unarmed strikes and monk weapons.
You can roll a d4 in place of the normal damage of your unarmed strike or monk weapon.
If using a monk weapon, the Brute Damage would apply.
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Since the question specifically calls it out, you should mention that "Flurry of Blows" does NOT use monk weapons, only unarmed strikes so those would not stack. "Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action."
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The Brute's Damage is not added to unarmed strikes
The Brute archetype says:
Brute Force
Starting at 3rd level, you’re able to strike with your weapons with especially brutal force. Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon’s damage increases by an amount based on your level in this class, as shown on the Brute Bonus Damage table.
Even though unarmed strike is considered a weapon attack, it is not considered a weapon, so the extra damage from Brute Force would not be added to it as it specifically says "hit with a weapon" rather than "make a melee weapon attack" like most features do, although it would of course still be added to any weapon attacks you make with a weapon.
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2 Answers
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up vote
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Not with unarmed strikes
As of the first Player's Handbook errata unarmed strikes no longer count as weapons.
Instead of using a weapon to make a melee weapon attack, you can use an un-armed [sic] strike: a punch, kick, head-butt, or similar forceful blow (none of which count as weapons).
The Brute Damage requires a weapon:
Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon's damage increases
This means that Flurry of Blows can not use Brute Damage as it only uses unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action.
You could use a Monk Weapon with Martial Arts
Martial Arts affects certain weapons in addition to unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
You can use Dexterity instead of Strength for the attack and damage rolls of your unarmed strikes and monk weapons.
You can roll a d4 in place of the normal damage of your unarmed strike or monk weapon.
If using a monk weapon, the Brute Damage would apply.
answered 6 hours ago
David Coffron
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Since the question specifically calls it out, you should mention that "Flurry of Blows" does NOT use monk weapons, only unarmed strikes so those would not stack. "Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action."
– MivaScott
5 hours ago
@MivaScott added. Thanks
– David Coffron
5 hours ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
10
down vote
Not with unarmed strikes
As of the first Player's Handbook errata unarmed strikes no longer count as weapons.
Instead of using a weapon to make a melee weapon attack, you can use an un-armed [sic] strike: a punch, kick, head-butt, or similar forceful blow (none of which count as weapons).
The Brute Damage requires a weapon:
Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon's damage increases
This means that Flurry of Blows can not use Brute Damage as it only uses unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action.
You could use a Monk Weapon with Martial Arts
Martial Arts affects certain weapons in addition to unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
You can use Dexterity instead of Strength for the attack and damage rolls of your unarmed strikes and monk weapons.
You can roll a d4 in place of the normal damage of your unarmed strike or monk weapon.
If using a monk weapon, the Brute Damage would apply.
answered 6 hours ago
David Coffron
30k2103204
1
Since the question specifically calls it out, you should mention that "Flurry of Blows" does NOT use monk weapons, only unarmed strikes so those would not stack. "Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action."
– MivaScott
5 hours ago
@MivaScott added. Thanks
– David Coffron
5 hours ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
10
down vote
up vote
10
down vote
Not with unarmed strikes
As of the first Player's Handbook errata unarmed strikes no longer count as weapons.
Instead of using a weapon to make a melee weapon attack, you can use an un-armed [sic] strike: a punch, kick, head-butt, or similar forceful blow (none of which count as weapons).
The Brute Damage requires a weapon:
Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon's damage increases
This means that Flurry of Blows can not use Brute Damage as it only uses unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action.
You could use a Monk Weapon with Martial Arts
Martial Arts affects certain weapons in addition to unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
You can use Dexterity instead of Strength for the attack and damage rolls of your unarmed strikes and monk weapons.
You can roll a d4 in place of the normal damage of your unarmed strike or monk weapon.
If using a monk weapon, the Brute Damage would apply.
answered 6 hours ago
David Coffron
30k2103204
Not with unarmed strikes
As of the first Player's Handbook errata unarmed strikes no longer count as weapons.
Instead of using a weapon to make a melee weapon attack, you can use an un-armed [sic] strike: a punch, kick, head-butt, or similar forceful blow (none of which count as weapons).
The Brute Damage requires a weapon:
Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon's damage increases
This means that Flurry of Blows can not use Brute Damage as it only uses unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action.
You could use a Monk Weapon with Martial Arts
Martial Arts affects certain weapons in addition to unarmed strikes (emphasis mine):
You can use Dexterity instead of Strength for the attack and damage rolls of your unarmed strikes and monk weapons.
You can roll a d4 in place of the normal damage of your unarmed strike or monk weapon.
If using a monk weapon, the Brute Damage would apply.
answered 6 hours ago
David Coffron
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David Coffron
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answered 6 hours ago
David Coffron
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answered 6 hours ago
David Coffron
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Since the question specifically calls it out, you should mention that "Flurry of Blows" does NOT use monk weapons, only unarmed strikes so those would not stack. "Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action."
– MivaScott
5 hours ago
@MivaScott added. Thanks
– David Coffron
5 hours ago
add a comment |Â
1
Since the question specifically calls it out, you should mention that "Flurry of Blows" does NOT use monk weapons, only unarmed strikes so those would not stack. "Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action."
– MivaScott
5 hours ago
@MivaScott added. Thanks
– David Coffron
5 hours ago
1
1
Since the question specifically calls it out, you should mention that "Flurry of Blows" does NOT use monk weapons, only unarmed strikes so those would not stack. "Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action."
– MivaScott
5 hours ago
Since the question specifically calls it out, you should mention that "Flurry of Blows" does NOT use monk weapons, only unarmed strikes so those would not stack. "Immediately after you take the Attack action on your turn, you can spend 1 ki point to make two unarmed strikes as a bonus action."
– MivaScott
5 hours ago
@MivaScott added. Thanks
– David Coffron
5 hours ago
@MivaScott added. Thanks
– David Coffron
5 hours ago
add a comment |Â
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5
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The Brute's Damage is not added to unarmed strikes
The Brute archetype says:
Brute Force
Starting at 3rd level, you’re able to strike with your weapons with especially brutal force. Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon’s damage increases by an amount based on your level in this class, as shown on the Brute Bonus Damage table.
Even though unarmed strike is considered a weapon attack, it is not considered a weapon, so the extra damage from Brute Force would not be added to it as it specifically says "hit with a weapon" rather than "make a melee weapon attack" like most features do, although it would of course still be added to any weapon attacks you make with a weapon.
answered 6 hours ago
NathanS
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up vote
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down vote
The Brute's Damage is not added to unarmed strikes
The Brute archetype says:
Brute Force
Starting at 3rd level, you’re able to strike with your weapons with especially brutal force. Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon’s damage increases by an amount based on your level in this class, as shown on the Brute Bonus Damage table.
Even though unarmed strike is considered a weapon attack, it is not considered a weapon, so the extra damage from Brute Force would not be added to it as it specifically says "hit with a weapon" rather than "make a melee weapon attack" like most features do, although it would of course still be added to any weapon attacks you make with a weapon.
answered 6 hours ago
NathanS
18.3k675194
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up vote
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up vote
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down vote
The Brute's Damage is not added to unarmed strikes
The Brute archetype says:
Brute Force
Starting at 3rd level, you’re able to strike with your weapons with especially brutal force. Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon’s damage increases by an amount based on your level in this class, as shown on the Brute Bonus Damage table.
Even though unarmed strike is considered a weapon attack, it is not considered a weapon, so the extra damage from Brute Force would not be added to it as it specifically says "hit with a weapon" rather than "make a melee weapon attack" like most features do, although it would of course still be added to any weapon attacks you make with a weapon.
answered 6 hours ago
NathanS
18.3k675194
The Brute's Damage is not added to unarmed strikes
The Brute archetype says:
Brute Force
Starting at 3rd level, you’re able to strike with your weapons with especially brutal force. Whenever you hit with a weapon that you’re proficient with and deal damage, the weapon’s damage increases by an amount based on your level in this class, as shown on the Brute Bonus Damage table.
Even though unarmed strike is considered a weapon attack, it is not considered a weapon, so the extra damage from Brute Force would not be added to it as it specifically says "hit with a weapon" rather than "make a melee weapon attack" like most features do, although it would of course still be added to any weapon attacks you make with a weapon.
answered 6 hours ago
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answered 6 hours ago
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Where is this fighter subclass from? UA?
– Szega
6 hours ago
@Szega Yes
– NathanS
6 hours ago
2
Please note that Unearthed Arcana is not tuned for Multiclassing.
– NautArch
6 hours ago
1
@Eternallord66 You definitely can. NautArch was just advising that it may not be perfectly balanced as Unearthed Arcana is playtest material and still undergoing changes.
– David Coffron
5 hours ago
1
Yes, my apologies if that came off as a You Can Not Do This At All :) But did want to let it be known that there may be unknown interactions that can make multiclassing with UA problematic at times.
– NautArch
5 hours ago