Unitaries in Banach *-algebras

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We know that the norm of a unitary in a unital $C^*$-algebra is one. Also, in a unital Banach algebra A, $u in A$ is defined to be a unitary if $|u| = |u^-1| =1$. I tried to prove it for the unitaries in unital Banach $*$-algebra, but not able to get an answer. Is it true that a unitary in a unital Banach$*$-algebra has norm one? Is there some counter example?










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    We know that the norm of a unitary in a unital $C^*$-algebra is one. Also, in a unital Banach algebra A, $u in A$ is defined to be a unitary if $|u| = |u^-1| =1$. I tried to prove it for the unitaries in unital Banach $*$-algebra, but not able to get an answer. Is it true that a unitary in a unital Banach$*$-algebra has norm one? Is there some counter example?










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      We know that the norm of a unitary in a unital $C^*$-algebra is one. Also, in a unital Banach algebra A, $u in A$ is defined to be a unitary if $|u| = |u^-1| =1$. I tried to prove it for the unitaries in unital Banach $*$-algebra, but not able to get an answer. Is it true that a unitary in a unital Banach$*$-algebra has norm one? Is there some counter example?










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          The answer is no even for a particular unitisation of the algebra of compact operators. We consider the Banach algebra $widetildeK:= lambda Id + k: ktext is compact$, given with natural involution and norm $|lambda Id + k| := |lambda| + |k|_op$ (it's not equal to the operator norm!); it is a unital Banach $ast$-algebra. The element $left[beginarraycccc 0 & 1 & 0 & cdots \ 1 & 0 & 0 & cdots \ 0 & 0 & 1 & cdots \ vdots & vdots & vdots &ddots endarrayright]$ is unitary, but it's norm is equal to $3$.






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            If your question is:




            suppose that $u^* u=1$. Must $u$ have norm one?




            then no, as already the unit may be counterexample. Indeed, there exist non-unital semigroups $S$ whose semigroup algebras $ell_1(S)$ are unital but the the unit has norm greater than one.






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            The answer is no even for a particular unitisation of the algebra of compact operators. We consider the Banach algebra $widetildeK:= lambda Id + k: ktext is compact$, given with natural involution and norm $|lambda Id + k| := |lambda| + |k|_op$ (it's not equal to the operator norm!); it is a unital Banach $ast$-algebra. The element $left[beginarraycccc 0 & 1 & 0 & cdots \ 1 & 0 & 0 & cdots \ 0 & 0 & 1 & cdots \ vdots & vdots & vdots &ddots endarrayright]$ is unitary, but it's norm is equal to $3$.






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              The answer is no even for a particular unitisation of the algebra of compact operators. We consider the Banach algebra $widetildeK:= lambda Id + k: ktext is compact$, given with natural involution and norm $|lambda Id + k| := |lambda| + |k|_op$ (it's not equal to the operator norm!); it is a unital Banach $ast$-algebra. The element $left[beginarraycccc 0 & 1 & 0 & cdots \ 1 & 0 & 0 & cdots \ 0 & 0 & 1 & cdots \ vdots & vdots & vdots &ddots endarrayright]$ is unitary, but it's norm is equal to $3$.






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                The answer is no even for a particular unitisation of the algebra of compact operators. We consider the Banach algebra $widetildeK:= lambda Id + k: ktext is compact$, given with natural involution and norm $|lambda Id + k| := |lambda| + |k|_op$ (it's not equal to the operator norm!); it is a unital Banach $ast$-algebra. The element $left[beginarraycccc 0 & 1 & 0 & cdots \ 1 & 0 & 0 & cdots \ 0 & 0 & 1 & cdots \ vdots & vdots & vdots &ddots endarrayright]$ is unitary, but it's norm is equal to $3$.






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                The answer is no even for a particular unitisation of the algebra of compact operators. We consider the Banach algebra $widetildeK:= lambda Id + k: ktext is compact$, given with natural involution and norm $|lambda Id + k| := |lambda| + |k|_op$ (it's not equal to the operator norm!); it is a unital Banach $ast$-algebra. The element $left[beginarraycccc 0 & 1 & 0 & cdots \ 1 & 0 & 0 & cdots \ 0 & 0 & 1 & cdots \ vdots & vdots & vdots &ddots endarrayright]$ is unitary, but it's norm is equal to $3$.







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                    If your question is:




                    suppose that $u^* u=1$. Must $u$ have norm one?




                    then no, as already the unit may be counterexample. Indeed, there exist non-unital semigroups $S$ whose semigroup algebras $ell_1(S)$ are unital but the the unit has norm greater than one.






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                    • Thanks for the reply, but here we assume (in unital Banach $*$-algebras) that unit has norm 1
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                    If your question is:




                    suppose that $u^* u=1$. Must $u$ have norm one?




                    then no, as already the unit may be counterexample. Indeed, there exist non-unital semigroups $S$ whose semigroup algebras $ell_1(S)$ are unital but the the unit has norm greater than one.






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                    If your question is:




                    suppose that $u^* u=1$. Must $u$ have norm one?




                    then no, as already the unit may be counterexample. Indeed, there exist non-unital semigroups $S$ whose semigroup algebras $ell_1(S)$ are unital but the the unit has norm greater than one.






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                    If your question is:




                    suppose that $u^* u=1$. Must $u$ have norm one?




                    then no, as already the unit may be counterexample. Indeed, there exist non-unital semigroups $S$ whose semigroup algebras $ell_1(S)$ are unital but the the unit has norm greater than one.







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                    • Thanks for the reply, but here we assume (in unital Banach $*$-algebras) that unit has norm 1
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                    • Thanks for the reply, but here we assume (in unital Banach $*$-algebras) that unit has norm 1
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                    Thanks for the reply, but here we assume (in unital Banach $*$-algebras) that unit has norm 1
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                    Thanks for the reply, but here we assume (in unital Banach $*$-algebras) that unit has norm 1
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