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While Rick was interrogating Luba Luft, she manages to call the fake police station and summon a cop who then let Rick use the phone too. He manages to reach the real police station and even talk with Inspector Bryant, but then the call is cut off and further calls to that number fail.
Bryant said, "Let me talk to him."
"Inspector Bryant wants to talk to you." Rick held out the vidphone receiver. The harness bull ceased questioning Miss Luft and came over to take it.
"Officer Crams," the harness bull said briskly. A pause. "Hello?" He listened, said hello several times more, waited, then turned to Rick. "There's nobody on the line. And nobody on the screen." He pointed to the vidphone screen and Rick saw nothing on it.
Taking the receiver from the harness bull Rick said, "Mr. Bryant?" He listened, waited; nothing. "I'll dial again." He hung up, waited, then redialed the familiar number. The phone rang, but no one answered it; the phone rang on and on.
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Chapter 9
How did this happen? How did the androids jam/disrupt the phone in such a way, and why did they even let Rick make that call to begin with?
(Note: book only probably, I did not watch the movie yet.)
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While Rick was interrogating Luba Luft, she manages to call the fake police station and summon a cop who then let Rick use the phone too. He manages to reach the real police station and even talk with Inspector Bryant, but then the call is cut off and further calls to that number fail.
Bryant said, "Let me talk to him."
"Inspector Bryant wants to talk to you." Rick held out the vidphone receiver. The harness bull ceased questioning Miss Luft and came over to take it.
"Officer Crams," the harness bull said briskly. A pause. "Hello?" He listened, said hello several times more, waited, then turned to Rick. "There's nobody on the line. And nobody on the screen." He pointed to the vidphone screen and Rick saw nothing on it.
Taking the receiver from the harness bull Rick said, "Mr. Bryant?" He listened, waited; nothing. "I'll dial again." He hung up, waited, then redialed the familiar number. The phone rang, but no one answered it; the phone rang on and on.
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Chapter 9
How did this happen? How did the androids jam/disrupt the phone in such a way, and why did they even let Rick make that call to begin with?
(Note: book only probably, I did not watch the movie yet.)
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@TheLethalCarrot thanks! That may be. Still, wonder if anyone can find something explaining it. The phone line wasn't dead, it just "kept ringing" without getting a response. (Those who read should remember/know, so I didn't mention the full details. :-))
– Shadow Wizard
3 hours ago
I've edited in the relevant passage, the implication appears to be that the androids and humans have two separate phone lines, and the androids are blocking out all human activity. I only read that passage and some of the surrounding text though.
– TheLethalCarrot
2 hours ago
Thanks again, didn't think to look for transcript. Well, guess you can shape that into an answer, it does make some sense. Though in other similar case (Rick calling his wife while inside fake police station and reach a stranger) this is fully explained in the book, so I kind of expected that one to be explained too at some point, which it wasn't. :)
– Shadow Wizard
2 hours ago
Reading further on and seeing the explanation for him calling his wife I think my assumption was correct. The only thing I'm unsure of is how Crams manages to block the call initially. Everything else appears to make sense.
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2 hours ago
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While Rick was interrogating Luba Luft, she manages to call the fake police station and summon a cop who then let Rick use the phone too. He manages to reach the real police station and even talk with Inspector Bryant, but then the call is cut off and further calls to that number fail.
Bryant said, "Let me talk to him."
"Inspector Bryant wants to talk to you." Rick held out the vidphone receiver. The harness bull ceased questioning Miss Luft and came over to take it.
"Officer Crams," the harness bull said briskly. A pause. "Hello?" He listened, said hello several times more, waited, then turned to Rick. "There's nobody on the line. And nobody on the screen." He pointed to the vidphone screen and Rick saw nothing on it.
Taking the receiver from the harness bull Rick said, "Mr. Bryant?" He listened, waited; nothing. "I'll dial again." He hung up, waited, then redialed the familiar number. The phone rang, but no one answered it; the phone rang on and on.
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Chapter 9
How did this happen? How did the androids jam/disrupt the phone in such a way, and why did they even let Rick make that call to begin with?
(Note: book only probably, I did not watch the movie yet.)
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While Rick was interrogating Luba Luft, she manages to call the fake police station and summon a cop who then let Rick use the phone too. He manages to reach the real police station and even talk with Inspector Bryant, but then the call is cut off and further calls to that number fail.
Bryant said, "Let me talk to him."
"Inspector Bryant wants to talk to you." Rick held out the vidphone receiver. The harness bull ceased questioning Miss Luft and came over to take it.
"Officer Crams," the harness bull said briskly. A pause. "Hello?" He listened, said hello several times more, waited, then turned to Rick. "There's nobody on the line. And nobody on the screen." He pointed to the vidphone screen and Rick saw nothing on it.
Taking the receiver from the harness bull Rick said, "Mr. Bryant?" He listened, waited; nothing. "I'll dial again." He hung up, waited, then redialed the familiar number. The phone rang, but no one answered it; the phone rang on and on.
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Chapter 9
How did this happen? How did the androids jam/disrupt the phone in such a way, and why did they even let Rick make that call to begin with?
(Note: book only probably, I did not watch the movie yet.)
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@TheLethalCarrot thanks! That may be. Still, wonder if anyone can find something explaining it. The phone line wasn't dead, it just "kept ringing" without getting a response. (Those who read should remember/know, so I didn't mention the full details. :-))
– Shadow Wizard
3 hours ago
I've edited in the relevant passage, the implication appears to be that the androids and humans have two separate phone lines, and the androids are blocking out all human activity. I only read that passage and some of the surrounding text though.
– TheLethalCarrot
2 hours ago
Thanks again, didn't think to look for transcript. Well, guess you can shape that into an answer, it does make some sense. Though in other similar case (Rick calling his wife while inside fake police station and reach a stranger) this is fully explained in the book, so I kind of expected that one to be explained too at some point, which it wasn't. :)
– Shadow Wizard
2 hours ago
Reading further on and seeing the explanation for him calling his wife I think my assumption was correct. The only thing I'm unsure of is how Crams manages to block the call initially. Everything else appears to make sense.
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@TheLethalCarrot thanks! That may be. Still, wonder if anyone can find something explaining it. The phone line wasn't dead, it just "kept ringing" without getting a response. (Those who read should remember/know, so I didn't mention the full details. :-))
– Shadow Wizard
3 hours ago
I've edited in the relevant passage, the implication appears to be that the androids and humans have two separate phone lines, and the androids are blocking out all human activity. I only read that passage and some of the surrounding text though.
– TheLethalCarrot
2 hours ago
Thanks again, didn't think to look for transcript. Well, guess you can shape that into an answer, it does make some sense. Though in other similar case (Rick calling his wife while inside fake police station and reach a stranger) this is fully explained in the book, so I kind of expected that one to be explained too at some point, which it wasn't. :)
– Shadow Wizard
2 hours ago
Reading further on and seeing the explanation for him calling his wife I think my assumption was correct. The only thing I'm unsure of is how Crams manages to block the call initially. Everything else appears to make sense.
– TheLethalCarrot
2 hours ago
@TheLethalCarrot thanks! That may be. Still, wonder if anyone can find something explaining it. The phone line wasn't dead, it just "kept ringing" without getting a response. (Those who read should remember/know, so I didn't mention the full details. :-))
– Shadow Wizard
3 hours ago
@TheLethalCarrot thanks! That may be. Still, wonder if anyone can find something explaining it. The phone line wasn't dead, it just "kept ringing" without getting a response. (Those who read should remember/know, so I didn't mention the full details. :-))
– Shadow Wizard
3 hours ago
I've edited in the relevant passage, the implication appears to be that the androids and humans have two separate phone lines, and the androids are blocking out all human activity. I only read that passage and some of the surrounding text though.
– TheLethalCarrot
2 hours ago
I've edited in the relevant passage, the implication appears to be that the androids and humans have two separate phone lines, and the androids are blocking out all human activity. I only read that passage and some of the surrounding text though.
– TheLethalCarrot
2 hours ago
Thanks again, didn't think to look for transcript. Well, guess you can shape that into an answer, it does make some sense. Though in other similar case (Rick calling his wife while inside fake police station and reach a stranger) this is fully explained in the book, so I kind of expected that one to be explained too at some point, which it wasn't. :)
– Shadow Wizard
2 hours ago
Thanks again, didn't think to look for transcript. Well, guess you can shape that into an answer, it does make some sense. Though in other similar case (Rick calling his wife while inside fake police station and reach a stranger) this is fully explained in the book, so I kind of expected that one to be explained too at some point, which it wasn't. :)
– Shadow Wizard
2 hours ago
Reading further on and seeing the explanation for him calling his wife I think my assumption was correct. The only thing I'm unsure of is how Crams manages to block the call initially. Everything else appears to make sense.
– TheLethalCarrot
2 hours ago
Reading further on and seeing the explanation for him calling his wife I think my assumption was correct. The only thing I'm unsure of is how Crams manages to block the call initially. Everything else appears to make sense.
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How they did it I'm unsure, but it appears to be that he changes the phone line over to use the android lines. We know that the androids are operating what essentially boils down to a parallel and hidden community to the humans. This can be seen when Garland explains it to Deckard. Deckard had already started to work it out before this of course but it is made explicit here.
"When I phoned my apartment," Rick said, "why didn't I get my wife?"
"All our vidphone lines here are trapped. They recirculate the call to other offices within the building. This is a homeostatic enterprise we're operating here, Deckard. We're a closed loop, cut off from the rest of San Francisco. We know about them but they don't know about us. Sometimes an isolated person such as yourself wanders in here or, as in your case, is brought here — for our protection."
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Chapter 11
It would appear that whatever Crams did to the phone when he initially touches it then blocks it from working later on. As we see Deckard can no longer ring out but Crams can easily.
Taking the receiver from the harness bull Rick said, "Mr. Bryant?" He listened, waited;
nothing. "I'll dial again." He hung up, waited, then redialed the familiar number. The phone
rang, but no one answered it; the phone rang on and on.
"Let me try," Officer Crams said, taking the receiver away from Rick. "You must have
misdialed "He dialed. "The number is 842 — "
"I know the number," Rick said.
"Officer Crams calling in," the harness bull said into the Phone receiver. "Is there an
Inspector Bryant connected with the department?" A short pause. "Well, what about a bounty hunter named Rick Deckard?" Again a pause. "You're sure? Could he have recently — oh, I see; okay, thanks. No, I have it under control." Officer Crams rang off, turned toward Rick.
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Chapter 9
Note that we also never hear the end of the number Crams rings so it is entirely possible it starts the same but is different.
As far as I'm aware there is no explicit mention of how Crams manages to do what he did to the phone line only that he somehow changes it over to use the android one.
As @Shadow Wizard mentions in the comments we know that Roy Baty took some electronic equipment from the ship which he uses to rig up an alarm system and a two way bug. It's possible that Crams could have used some of this equipment to hack into the phone lines and activate it when he wanted to later on but nothing is made explicit.
I've got some electronic components in my car, junk I ripped off the ship. I'll install a two-way bug so Pris you can hear us and we can hear you, and I'll rig up an alarm system that any of the four of us can set off.
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Chapter 14
However, we know Luba managed to ring through to the android police station too so it's possible that the device to hack the phone line is on there persons.
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Another point of wonder is that the Opera House (where the calls are made from) is not taken over by androids, so the phone lines should be clean and untampered with.
– Shadow Wizard
55 mins ago
@ShadowWizard They are clean initially as we see Deckard get though to Bryant. It is only after Crams touches the phone that the change happens.
– TheLethalCarrot
54 mins ago
True. Thinking about it, Roy Batty mentions "bringing electronic equipment" from the ship, so likely something from that equipment was used.
– Shadow Wizard
48 mins ago
@ShadowWizard Good point edited in but again nothing explicit here.
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39 mins ago
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How they did it I'm unsure, but it appears to be that he changes the phone line over to use the android lines. We know that the androids are operating what essentially boils down to a parallel and hidden community to the humans. This can be seen when Garland explains it to Deckard. Deckard had already started to work it out before this of course but it is made explicit here.
"When I phoned my apartment," Rick said, "why didn't I get my wife?"
"All our vidphone lines here are trapped. They recirculate the call to other offices within the building. This is a homeostatic enterprise we're operating here, Deckard. We're a closed loop, cut off from the rest of San Francisco. We know about them but they don't know about us. Sometimes an isolated person such as yourself wanders in here or, as in your case, is brought here — for our protection."
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Chapter 11
It would appear that whatever Crams did to the phone when he initially touches it then blocks it from working later on. As we see Deckard can no longer ring out but Crams can easily.
Taking the receiver from the harness bull Rick said, "Mr. Bryant?" He listened, waited;
nothing. "I'll dial again." He hung up, waited, then redialed the familiar number. The phone
rang, but no one answered it; the phone rang on and on.
"Let me try," Officer Crams said, taking the receiver away from Rick. "You must have
misdialed "He dialed. "The number is 842 — "
"I know the number," Rick said.
"Officer Crams calling in," the harness bull said into the Phone receiver. "Is there an
Inspector Bryant connected with the department?" A short pause. "Well, what about a bounty hunter named Rick Deckard?" Again a pause. "You're sure? Could he have recently — oh, I see; okay, thanks. No, I have it under control." Officer Crams rang off, turned toward Rick.
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Chapter 9
Note that we also never hear the end of the number Crams rings so it is entirely possible it starts the same but is different.
As far as I'm aware there is no explicit mention of how Crams manages to do what he did to the phone line only that he somehow changes it over to use the android one.
As @Shadow Wizard mentions in the comments we know that Roy Baty took some electronic equipment from the ship which he uses to rig up an alarm system and a two way bug. It's possible that Crams could have used some of this equipment to hack into the phone lines and activate it when he wanted to later on but nothing is made explicit.
I've got some electronic components in my car, junk I ripped off the ship. I'll install a two-way bug so Pris you can hear us and we can hear you, and I'll rig up an alarm system that any of the four of us can set off.
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Chapter 14
However, we know Luba managed to ring through to the android police station too so it's possible that the device to hack the phone line is on there persons.
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Another point of wonder is that the Opera House (where the calls are made from) is not taken over by androids, so the phone lines should be clean and untampered with.
– Shadow Wizard
55 mins ago
@ShadowWizard They are clean initially as we see Deckard get though to Bryant. It is only after Crams touches the phone that the change happens.
– TheLethalCarrot
54 mins ago
True. Thinking about it, Roy Batty mentions "bringing electronic equipment" from the ship, so likely something from that equipment was used.
– Shadow Wizard
48 mins ago
@ShadowWizard Good point edited in but again nothing explicit here.
– TheLethalCarrot
39 mins ago
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How they did it I'm unsure, but it appears to be that he changes the phone line over to use the android lines. We know that the androids are operating what essentially boils down to a parallel and hidden community to the humans. This can be seen when Garland explains it to Deckard. Deckard had already started to work it out before this of course but it is made explicit here.
"When I phoned my apartment," Rick said, "why didn't I get my wife?"
"All our vidphone lines here are trapped. They recirculate the call to other offices within the building. This is a homeostatic enterprise we're operating here, Deckard. We're a closed loop, cut off from the rest of San Francisco. We know about them but they don't know about us. Sometimes an isolated person such as yourself wanders in here or, as in your case, is brought here — for our protection."
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Chapter 11
It would appear that whatever Crams did to the phone when he initially touches it then blocks it from working later on. As we see Deckard can no longer ring out but Crams can easily.
Taking the receiver from the harness bull Rick said, "Mr. Bryant?" He listened, waited;
nothing. "I'll dial again." He hung up, waited, then redialed the familiar number. The phone
rang, but no one answered it; the phone rang on and on.
"Let me try," Officer Crams said, taking the receiver away from Rick. "You must have
misdialed "He dialed. "The number is 842 — "
"I know the number," Rick said.
"Officer Crams calling in," the harness bull said into the Phone receiver. "Is there an
Inspector Bryant connected with the department?" A short pause. "Well, what about a bounty hunter named Rick Deckard?" Again a pause. "You're sure? Could he have recently — oh, I see; okay, thanks. No, I have it under control." Officer Crams rang off, turned toward Rick.
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Chapter 9
Note that we also never hear the end of the number Crams rings so it is entirely possible it starts the same but is different.
As far as I'm aware there is no explicit mention of how Crams manages to do what he did to the phone line only that he somehow changes it over to use the android one.
As @Shadow Wizard mentions in the comments we know that Roy Baty took some electronic equipment from the ship which he uses to rig up an alarm system and a two way bug. It's possible that Crams could have used some of this equipment to hack into the phone lines and activate it when he wanted to later on but nothing is made explicit.
I've got some electronic components in my car, junk I ripped off the ship. I'll install a two-way bug so Pris you can hear us and we can hear you, and I'll rig up an alarm system that any of the four of us can set off.
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Chapter 14
However, we know Luba managed to ring through to the android police station too so it's possible that the device to hack the phone line is on there persons.
answered 1 hour ago
TheLethalCarrot
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Another point of wonder is that the Opera House (where the calls are made from) is not taken over by androids, so the phone lines should be clean and untampered with.
– Shadow Wizard
55 mins ago
@ShadowWizard They are clean initially as we see Deckard get though to Bryant. It is only after Crams touches the phone that the change happens.
– TheLethalCarrot
54 mins ago
True. Thinking about it, Roy Batty mentions "bringing electronic equipment" from the ship, so likely something from that equipment was used.
– Shadow Wizard
48 mins ago
@ShadowWizard Good point edited in but again nothing explicit here.
– TheLethalCarrot
39 mins ago
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How they did it I'm unsure, but it appears to be that he changes the phone line over to use the android lines. We know that the androids are operating what essentially boils down to a parallel and hidden community to the humans. This can be seen when Garland explains it to Deckard. Deckard had already started to work it out before this of course but it is made explicit here.
"When I phoned my apartment," Rick said, "why didn't I get my wife?"
"All our vidphone lines here are trapped. They recirculate the call to other offices within the building. This is a homeostatic enterprise we're operating here, Deckard. We're a closed loop, cut off from the rest of San Francisco. We know about them but they don't know about us. Sometimes an isolated person such as yourself wanders in here or, as in your case, is brought here — for our protection."
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Chapter 11
It would appear that whatever Crams did to the phone when he initially touches it then blocks it from working later on. As we see Deckard can no longer ring out but Crams can easily.
Taking the receiver from the harness bull Rick said, "Mr. Bryant?" He listened, waited;
nothing. "I'll dial again." He hung up, waited, then redialed the familiar number. The phone
rang, but no one answered it; the phone rang on and on.
"Let me try," Officer Crams said, taking the receiver away from Rick. "You must have
misdialed "He dialed. "The number is 842 — "
"I know the number," Rick said.
"Officer Crams calling in," the harness bull said into the Phone receiver. "Is there an
Inspector Bryant connected with the department?" A short pause. "Well, what about a bounty hunter named Rick Deckard?" Again a pause. "You're sure? Could he have recently — oh, I see; okay, thanks. No, I have it under control." Officer Crams rang off, turned toward Rick.
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Chapter 9
Note that we also never hear the end of the number Crams rings so it is entirely possible it starts the same but is different.
As far as I'm aware there is no explicit mention of how Crams manages to do what he did to the phone line only that he somehow changes it over to use the android one.
As @Shadow Wizard mentions in the comments we know that Roy Baty took some electronic equipment from the ship which he uses to rig up an alarm system and a two way bug. It's possible that Crams could have used some of this equipment to hack into the phone lines and activate it when he wanted to later on but nothing is made explicit.
I've got some electronic components in my car, junk I ripped off the ship. I'll install a two-way bug so Pris you can hear us and we can hear you, and I'll rig up an alarm system that any of the four of us can set off.
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Chapter 14
However, we know Luba managed to ring through to the android police station too so it's possible that the device to hack the phone line is on there persons.
answered 1 hour ago
TheLethalCarrot
34.9k14191233
How they did it I'm unsure, but it appears to be that he changes the phone line over to use the android lines. We know that the androids are operating what essentially boils down to a parallel and hidden community to the humans. This can be seen when Garland explains it to Deckard. Deckard had already started to work it out before this of course but it is made explicit here.
"When I phoned my apartment," Rick said, "why didn't I get my wife?"
"All our vidphone lines here are trapped. They recirculate the call to other offices within the building. This is a homeostatic enterprise we're operating here, Deckard. We're a closed loop, cut off from the rest of San Francisco. We know about them but they don't know about us. Sometimes an isolated person such as yourself wanders in here or, as in your case, is brought here — for our protection."
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Chapter 11
It would appear that whatever Crams did to the phone when he initially touches it then blocks it from working later on. As we see Deckard can no longer ring out but Crams can easily.
Taking the receiver from the harness bull Rick said, "Mr. Bryant?" He listened, waited;
nothing. "I'll dial again." He hung up, waited, then redialed the familiar number. The phone
rang, but no one answered it; the phone rang on and on.
"Let me try," Officer Crams said, taking the receiver away from Rick. "You must have
misdialed "He dialed. "The number is 842 — "
"I know the number," Rick said.
"Officer Crams calling in," the harness bull said into the Phone receiver. "Is there an
Inspector Bryant connected with the department?" A short pause. "Well, what about a bounty hunter named Rick Deckard?" Again a pause. "You're sure? Could he have recently — oh, I see; okay, thanks. No, I have it under control." Officer Crams rang off, turned toward Rick.
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Chapter 9
Note that we also never hear the end of the number Crams rings so it is entirely possible it starts the same but is different.
As far as I'm aware there is no explicit mention of how Crams manages to do what he did to the phone line only that he somehow changes it over to use the android one.
As @Shadow Wizard mentions in the comments we know that Roy Baty took some electronic equipment from the ship which he uses to rig up an alarm system and a two way bug. It's possible that Crams could have used some of this equipment to hack into the phone lines and activate it when he wanted to later on but nothing is made explicit.
I've got some electronic components in my car, junk I ripped off the ship. I'll install a two-way bug so Pris you can hear us and we can hear you, and I'll rig up an alarm system that any of the four of us can set off.
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Chapter 14
However, we know Luba managed to ring through to the android police station too so it's possible that the device to hack the phone line is on there persons.
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Another point of wonder is that the Opera House (where the calls are made from) is not taken over by androids, so the phone lines should be clean and untampered with.
– Shadow Wizard
55 mins ago
@ShadowWizard They are clean initially as we see Deckard get though to Bryant. It is only after Crams touches the phone that the change happens.
– TheLethalCarrot
54 mins ago
True. Thinking about it, Roy Batty mentions "bringing electronic equipment" from the ship, so likely something from that equipment was used.
– Shadow Wizard
48 mins ago
@ShadowWizard Good point edited in but again nothing explicit here.
– TheLethalCarrot
39 mins ago
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Another point of wonder is that the Opera House (where the calls are made from) is not taken over by androids, so the phone lines should be clean and untampered with.
– Shadow Wizard
55 mins ago
@ShadowWizard They are clean initially as we see Deckard get though to Bryant. It is only after Crams touches the phone that the change happens.
– TheLethalCarrot
54 mins ago
True. Thinking about it, Roy Batty mentions "bringing electronic equipment" from the ship, so likely something from that equipment was used.
– Shadow Wizard
48 mins ago
@ShadowWizard Good point edited in but again nothing explicit here.
– TheLethalCarrot
39 mins ago
Another point of wonder is that the Opera House (where the calls are made from) is not taken over by androids, so the phone lines should be clean and untampered with.
– Shadow Wizard
55 mins ago
Another point of wonder is that the Opera House (where the calls are made from) is not taken over by androids, so the phone lines should be clean and untampered with.
– Shadow Wizard
55 mins ago
@ShadowWizard They are clean initially as we see Deckard get though to Bryant. It is only after Crams touches the phone that the change happens.
– TheLethalCarrot
54 mins ago
@ShadowWizard They are clean initially as we see Deckard get though to Bryant. It is only after Crams touches the phone that the change happens.
– TheLethalCarrot
54 mins ago
True. Thinking about it, Roy Batty mentions "bringing electronic equipment" from the ship, so likely something from that equipment was used.
– Shadow Wizard
48 mins ago
True. Thinking about it, Roy Batty mentions "bringing electronic equipment" from the ship, so likely something from that equipment was used.
– Shadow Wizard
48 mins ago
@ShadowWizard Good point edited in but again nothing explicit here.
– TheLethalCarrot
39 mins ago
@ShadowWizard Good point edited in but again nothing explicit here.
– TheLethalCarrot
39 mins ago
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@TheLethalCarrot thanks! That may be. Still, wonder if anyone can find something explaining it. The phone line wasn't dead, it just "kept ringing" without getting a response. (Those who read should remember/know, so I didn't mention the full details. :-))
– Shadow Wizard
3 hours ago
I've edited in the relevant passage, the implication appears to be that the androids and humans have two separate phone lines, and the androids are blocking out all human activity. I only read that passage and some of the surrounding text though.
– TheLethalCarrot
2 hours ago
Thanks again, didn't think to look for transcript. Well, guess you can shape that into an answer, it does make some sense. Though in other similar case (Rick calling his wife while inside fake police station and reach a stranger) this is fully explained in the book, so I kind of expected that one to be explained too at some point, which it wasn't. :)
– Shadow Wizard
2 hours ago
Reading further on and seeing the explanation for him calling his wife I think my assumption was correct. The only thing I'm unsure of is how Crams manages to block the call initially. Everything else appears to make sense.
– TheLethalCarrot
2 hours ago