Hole in subfloor under stove: Do I fix? If so do I put flooring over it?

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In preparation for porcelain tile installation in my kitchen I removed the vinyl stick-on squares the previous owner threw down before selling and the 1/4" plywood underneath those. When I pulled the stove forward to remove the rest of the vinyl and plywood I found this:



hole in subfloor under stove



The front feet of the stove rested on the existing floor with nothing but subfloor under the stove, well, subfloor and a hole. The piece of subfloor was inside the hole. Here's what's in the hole:



inside the hole



My questions:



  • Why does this hole exist and should I repair it? Now that the weather is turning I feel cold air coming from the hole but could there be a valid reason the subfloor wasn't repaired after work was done?

  • Should the new flooring (porcelain tile over cement board) extend under the stove? Currently the edge of the stove sits 1/2" below the countertop.

Now that I've written out my questions it seems the answers are "yes" and "yes". However I don't know what I don't know and maybe there's a good reason things were left as I found them, as janky as they seem.



Are "yes" and "yes" the correct answers?






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    In preparation for porcelain tile installation in my kitchen I removed the vinyl stick-on squares the previous owner threw down before selling and the 1/4" plywood underneath those. When I pulled the stove forward to remove the rest of the vinyl and plywood I found this:



    hole in subfloor under stove



    The front feet of the stove rested on the existing floor with nothing but subfloor under the stove, well, subfloor and a hole. The piece of subfloor was inside the hole. Here's what's in the hole:



    inside the hole



    My questions:



    • Why does this hole exist and should I repair it? Now that the weather is turning I feel cold air coming from the hole but could there be a valid reason the subfloor wasn't repaired after work was done?

    • Should the new flooring (porcelain tile over cement board) extend under the stove? Currently the edge of the stove sits 1/2" below the countertop.

    Now that I've written out my questions it seems the answers are "yes" and "yes". However I don't know what I don't know and maybe there's a good reason things were left as I found them, as janky as they seem.



    Are "yes" and "yes" the correct answers?






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      In preparation for porcelain tile installation in my kitchen I removed the vinyl stick-on squares the previous owner threw down before selling and the 1/4" plywood underneath those. When I pulled the stove forward to remove the rest of the vinyl and plywood I found this:



      hole in subfloor under stove



      The front feet of the stove rested on the existing floor with nothing but subfloor under the stove, well, subfloor and a hole. The piece of subfloor was inside the hole. Here's what's in the hole:



      inside the hole



      My questions:



      • Why does this hole exist and should I repair it? Now that the weather is turning I feel cold air coming from the hole but could there be a valid reason the subfloor wasn't repaired after work was done?

      • Should the new flooring (porcelain tile over cement board) extend under the stove? Currently the edge of the stove sits 1/2" below the countertop.

      Now that I've written out my questions it seems the answers are "yes" and "yes". However I don't know what I don't know and maybe there's a good reason things were left as I found them, as janky as they seem.



      Are "yes" and "yes" the correct answers?






      flooring subfloor







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      In preparation for porcelain tile installation in my kitchen I removed the vinyl stick-on squares the previous owner threw down before selling and the 1/4" plywood underneath those. When I pulled the stove forward to remove the rest of the vinyl and plywood I found this:



      hole in subfloor under stove



      The front feet of the stove rested on the existing floor with nothing but subfloor under the stove, well, subfloor and a hole. The piece of subfloor was inside the hole. Here's what's in the hole:



      inside the hole



      My questions:



      • Why does this hole exist and should I repair it? Now that the weather is turning I feel cold air coming from the hole but could there be a valid reason the subfloor wasn't repaired after work was done?

      • Should the new flooring (porcelain tile over cement board) extend under the stove? Currently the edge of the stove sits 1/2" below the countertop.

      Now that I've written out my questions it seems the answers are "yes" and "yes". However I don't know what I don't know and maybe there's a good reason things were left as I found them, as janky as they seem.



      Are "yes" and "yes" the correct answers?






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          I would replace the subfloor by floating some scrap lumber under two edges of the opening and screwing them in place. Then screw down the patch.



          I'd then run tile down both sides of the stove opening and halfway back from the front, but leave the patched area uncovered in case you need later access.



          This gives you the impression of a completed floor from the front and through any gaps along the sides of the stove.






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          • Great idea! I hadn't considered splitting the difference between floor and no floor. I like the idea of having access later just in case; the hole was cut for a reason. Probably. Thanks for the answer!
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          Personally, I would say no and no to both of your questions.



          I would run the tile up to and maybe slightly under the bottom edge of the stove - enough so you can't see the unfinished part underneath.



          If you want the stove to be flush or slightly higher than the level of the countertop, then you can just put another piece of plywood down over the subfloor (1/2" or 3/4") to raise the floor level and bring the stove up a bit higher. That would also serve to cover the hole in the subfloor.



          As for why the hole is there in the first place - I'd guess it was cut during a previous remodel to gain access to the plumbing/gas lines/wiring under the floor.






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          • As far as I know there was no previous remodel except for replacing sheet vinyl with vinyl tile. I bought the place (a 22 year old townhouse) from the original owner, a widower for 15 of those years. The place was little changed from when it was built; it still had the original wall-to-wall carpeting (which was as dirty and stretched out as you might imagine) for example. I don't see any evidence of repair or of bodies being stashed...I guess it will have to remain the mystery hole. Thanks for your answer!
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          I would replace the subfloor by floating some scrap lumber under two edges of the opening and screwing them in place. Then screw down the patch.



          I'd then run tile down both sides of the stove opening and halfway back from the front, but leave the patched area uncovered in case you need later access.



          This gives you the impression of a completed floor from the front and through any gaps along the sides of the stove.






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          • Great idea! I hadn't considered splitting the difference between floor and no floor. I like the idea of having access later just in case; the hole was cut for a reason. Probably. Thanks for the answer!
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          I would replace the subfloor by floating some scrap lumber under two edges of the opening and screwing them in place. Then screw down the patch.



          I'd then run tile down both sides of the stove opening and halfway back from the front, but leave the patched area uncovered in case you need later access.



          This gives you the impression of a completed floor from the front and through any gaps along the sides of the stove.






          share|improve this answer




















          • Great idea! I hadn't considered splitting the difference between floor and no floor. I like the idea of having access later just in case; the hole was cut for a reason. Probably. Thanks for the answer!
            – Paul
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          I would replace the subfloor by floating some scrap lumber under two edges of the opening and screwing them in place. Then screw down the patch.



          I'd then run tile down both sides of the stove opening and halfway back from the front, but leave the patched area uncovered in case you need later access.



          This gives you the impression of a completed floor from the front and through any gaps along the sides of the stove.






          share|improve this answer












          I would replace the subfloor by floating some scrap lumber under two edges of the opening and screwing them in place. Then screw down the patch.



          I'd then run tile down both sides of the stove opening and halfway back from the front, but leave the patched area uncovered in case you need later access.



          This gives you the impression of a completed floor from the front and through any gaps along the sides of the stove.







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          • Great idea! I hadn't considered splitting the difference between floor and no floor. I like the idea of having access later just in case; the hole was cut for a reason. Probably. Thanks for the answer!
            – Paul
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          • Great idea! I hadn't considered splitting the difference between floor and no floor. I like the idea of having access later just in case; the hole was cut for a reason. Probably. Thanks for the answer!
            – Paul
            1 hour ago















          Great idea! I hadn't considered splitting the difference between floor and no floor. I like the idea of having access later just in case; the hole was cut for a reason. Probably. Thanks for the answer!
          – Paul
          1 hour ago




          Great idea! I hadn't considered splitting the difference between floor and no floor. I like the idea of having access later just in case; the hole was cut for a reason. Probably. Thanks for the answer!
          – Paul
          1 hour ago












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          Personally, I would say no and no to both of your questions.



          I would run the tile up to and maybe slightly under the bottom edge of the stove - enough so you can't see the unfinished part underneath.



          If you want the stove to be flush or slightly higher than the level of the countertop, then you can just put another piece of plywood down over the subfloor (1/2" or 3/4") to raise the floor level and bring the stove up a bit higher. That would also serve to cover the hole in the subfloor.



          As for why the hole is there in the first place - I'd guess it was cut during a previous remodel to gain access to the plumbing/gas lines/wiring under the floor.






          share|improve this answer




















          • As far as I know there was no previous remodel except for replacing sheet vinyl with vinyl tile. I bought the place (a 22 year old townhouse) from the original owner, a widower for 15 of those years. The place was little changed from when it was built; it still had the original wall-to-wall carpeting (which was as dirty and stretched out as you might imagine) for example. I don't see any evidence of repair or of bodies being stashed...I guess it will have to remain the mystery hole. Thanks for your answer!
            – Paul
            2 hours ago














          up vote
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          Personally, I would say no and no to both of your questions.



          I would run the tile up to and maybe slightly under the bottom edge of the stove - enough so you can't see the unfinished part underneath.



          If you want the stove to be flush or slightly higher than the level of the countertop, then you can just put another piece of plywood down over the subfloor (1/2" or 3/4") to raise the floor level and bring the stove up a bit higher. That would also serve to cover the hole in the subfloor.



          As for why the hole is there in the first place - I'd guess it was cut during a previous remodel to gain access to the plumbing/gas lines/wiring under the floor.






          share|improve this answer




















          • As far as I know there was no previous remodel except for replacing sheet vinyl with vinyl tile. I bought the place (a 22 year old townhouse) from the original owner, a widower for 15 of those years. The place was little changed from when it was built; it still had the original wall-to-wall carpeting (which was as dirty and stretched out as you might imagine) for example. I don't see any evidence of repair or of bodies being stashed...I guess it will have to remain the mystery hole. Thanks for your answer!
            – Paul
            2 hours ago












          up vote
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          up vote
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          Personally, I would say no and no to both of your questions.



          I would run the tile up to and maybe slightly under the bottom edge of the stove - enough so you can't see the unfinished part underneath.



          If you want the stove to be flush or slightly higher than the level of the countertop, then you can just put another piece of plywood down over the subfloor (1/2" or 3/4") to raise the floor level and bring the stove up a bit higher. That would also serve to cover the hole in the subfloor.



          As for why the hole is there in the first place - I'd guess it was cut during a previous remodel to gain access to the plumbing/gas lines/wiring under the floor.






          share|improve this answer












          Personally, I would say no and no to both of your questions.



          I would run the tile up to and maybe slightly under the bottom edge of the stove - enough so you can't see the unfinished part underneath.



          If you want the stove to be flush or slightly higher than the level of the countertop, then you can just put another piece of plywood down over the subfloor (1/2" or 3/4") to raise the floor level and bring the stove up a bit higher. That would also serve to cover the hole in the subfloor.



          As for why the hole is there in the first place - I'd guess it was cut during a previous remodel to gain access to the plumbing/gas lines/wiring under the floor.







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          • As far as I know there was no previous remodel except for replacing sheet vinyl with vinyl tile. I bought the place (a 22 year old townhouse) from the original owner, a widower for 15 of those years. The place was little changed from when it was built; it still had the original wall-to-wall carpeting (which was as dirty and stretched out as you might imagine) for example. I don't see any evidence of repair or of bodies being stashed...I guess it will have to remain the mystery hole. Thanks for your answer!
            – Paul
            2 hours ago
















          • As far as I know there was no previous remodel except for replacing sheet vinyl with vinyl tile. I bought the place (a 22 year old townhouse) from the original owner, a widower for 15 of those years. The place was little changed from when it was built; it still had the original wall-to-wall carpeting (which was as dirty and stretched out as you might imagine) for example. I don't see any evidence of repair or of bodies being stashed...I guess it will have to remain the mystery hole. Thanks for your answer!
            – Paul
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          As far as I know there was no previous remodel except for replacing sheet vinyl with vinyl tile. I bought the place (a 22 year old townhouse) from the original owner, a widower for 15 of those years. The place was little changed from when it was built; it still had the original wall-to-wall carpeting (which was as dirty and stretched out as you might imagine) for example. I don't see any evidence of repair or of bodies being stashed...I guess it will have to remain the mystery hole. Thanks for your answer!
          – Paul
          2 hours ago




          As far as I know there was no previous remodel except for replacing sheet vinyl with vinyl tile. I bought the place (a 22 year old townhouse) from the original owner, a widower for 15 of those years. The place was little changed from when it was built; it still had the original wall-to-wall carpeting (which was as dirty and stretched out as you might imagine) for example. I don't see any evidence of repair or of bodies being stashed...I guess it will have to remain the mystery hole. Thanks for your answer!
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