Preparing lecture notes and references?

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I am a new teacher/lecturer in science, and I am preparing lecture notes for my module. I am putting together a lot of material coming from textbooks as well as borrowing material from other lecture notes I come across online. In the bibliography, I have included the main textbooks, as students are encouraged to read them and try some of the exercises in those books. However, I am not sure how, or if I should, include references to the material I am taking from other lecture notes. First, if I include too many references, it will be useless for the students. Second, the material in those lecture notes is not original either. What are some general rules and guidelines for citing material in your lecture notes?










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    I'm not sure how I see that "too many references...will be useless to students".
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    @Buffy In an ideal world, students would consult and have a quick look at the 50 references in your lecture notes. In real life, 99% will just ignore them as it is not condensed enough to consider the bibliography as teaching material.
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  • Is this an introductory or an upper division course?
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  • @anonymous Undergraduate course, at a university.
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  • @Totoro Of course, but what year are the students generally going to be when they take it? Is it required for their major or more of a "general interest" elective course that anyone could take? Depending upon the students attending it makes sense to tailor your approach a bit.
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I am a new teacher/lecturer in science, and I am preparing lecture notes for my module. I am putting together a lot of material coming from textbooks as well as borrowing material from other lecture notes I come across online. In the bibliography, I have included the main textbooks, as students are encouraged to read them and try some of the exercises in those books. However, I am not sure how, or if I should, include references to the material I am taking from other lecture notes. First, if I include too many references, it will be useless for the students. Second, the material in those lecture notes is not original either. What are some general rules and guidelines for citing material in your lecture notes?










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    I'm not sure how I see that "too many references...will be useless to students".
    – Buffy
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    @Buffy In an ideal world, students would consult and have a quick look at the 50 references in your lecture notes. In real life, 99% will just ignore them as it is not condensed enough to consider the bibliography as teaching material.
    – Totoro
    50 mins ago











  • Is this an introductory or an upper division course?
    – anonymous
    21 mins ago










  • @anonymous Undergraduate course, at a university.
    – Totoro
    19 mins ago










  • @Totoro Of course, but what year are the students generally going to be when they take it? Is it required for their major or more of a "general interest" elective course that anyone could take? Depending upon the students attending it makes sense to tailor your approach a bit.
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I am a new teacher/lecturer in science, and I am preparing lecture notes for my module. I am putting together a lot of material coming from textbooks as well as borrowing material from other lecture notes I come across online. In the bibliography, I have included the main textbooks, as students are encouraged to read them and try some of the exercises in those books. However, I am not sure how, or if I should, include references to the material I am taking from other lecture notes. First, if I include too many references, it will be useless for the students. Second, the material in those lecture notes is not original either. What are some general rules and guidelines for citing material in your lecture notes?







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  • 1




    I'm not sure how I see that "too many references...will be useless to students".
    – Buffy
    52 mins ago






  • 2




    @Buffy In an ideal world, students would consult and have a quick look at the 50 references in your lecture notes. In real life, 99% will just ignore them as it is not condensed enough to consider the bibliography as teaching material.
    – Totoro
    50 mins ago











  • Is this an introductory or an upper division course?
    – anonymous
    21 mins ago










  • @anonymous Undergraduate course, at a university.
    – Totoro
    19 mins ago










  • @Totoro Of course, but what year are the students generally going to be when they take it? Is it required for their major or more of a "general interest" elective course that anyone could take? Depending upon the students attending it makes sense to tailor your approach a bit.
    – anonymous
    18 mins ago












  • 1




    I'm not sure how I see that "too many references...will be useless to students".
    – Buffy
    52 mins ago






  • 2




    @Buffy In an ideal world, students would consult and have a quick look at the 50 references in your lecture notes. In real life, 99% will just ignore them as it is not condensed enough to consider the bibliography as teaching material.
    – Totoro
    50 mins ago











  • Is this an introductory or an upper division course?
    – anonymous
    21 mins ago










  • @anonymous Undergraduate course, at a university.
    – Totoro
    19 mins ago










  • @Totoro Of course, but what year are the students generally going to be when they take it? Is it required for their major or more of a "general interest" elective course that anyone could take? Depending upon the students attending it makes sense to tailor your approach a bit.
    – anonymous
    18 mins ago







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I'm not sure how I see that "too many references...will be useless to students".
– Buffy
52 mins ago




I'm not sure how I see that "too many references...will be useless to students".
– Buffy
52 mins ago




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@Buffy In an ideal world, students would consult and have a quick look at the 50 references in your lecture notes. In real life, 99% will just ignore them as it is not condensed enough to consider the bibliography as teaching material.
– Totoro
50 mins ago





@Buffy In an ideal world, students would consult and have a quick look at the 50 references in your lecture notes. In real life, 99% will just ignore them as it is not condensed enough to consider the bibliography as teaching material.
– Totoro
50 mins ago













Is this an introductory or an upper division course?
– anonymous
21 mins ago




Is this an introductory or an upper division course?
– anonymous
21 mins ago












@anonymous Undergraduate course, at a university.
– Totoro
19 mins ago




@anonymous Undergraduate course, at a university.
– Totoro
19 mins ago












@Totoro Of course, but what year are the students generally going to be when they take it? Is it required for their major or more of a "general interest" elective course that anyone could take? Depending upon the students attending it makes sense to tailor your approach a bit.
– anonymous
18 mins ago




@Totoro Of course, but what year are the students generally going to be when they take it? Is it required for their major or more of a "general interest" elective course that anyone could take? Depending upon the students attending it makes sense to tailor your approach a bit.
– anonymous
18 mins ago










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There are three different sorts of bibliographic entries in your situation, I think: suggestions for further reading (for the students), acknowledgement of your sources, and historical references. One should acknowledge one's sources, whether or not it "helps the students". I think it will help them in the larger sense of perhaps slightly better appreciating how human knowledge is advanced and organized. Including historical references helps people understand the timescale on which things happen.



Even with "well-known" relatively elementary results whose origins have faded into obscurity, you can note that you learned these things from various textbooks yourself... not that you came up with it all yourself, for example. You could tell the textbooks you studied from.



Even if that information is not "tested-on", I think it sets a good model for the students.






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I suggest putting attributions in-line, as pointers to a "References" section using whatever citation format your institution generally uses, and providing a separate "Reading List" which may include material also attributed in the notes.






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There are three different sorts of bibliographic entries in your situation, I think: suggestions for further reading (for the students), acknowledgement of your sources, and historical references. One should acknowledge one's sources, whether or not it "helps the students". I think it will help them in the larger sense of perhaps slightly better appreciating how human knowledge is advanced and organized. Including historical references helps people understand the timescale on which things happen.



Even with "well-known" relatively elementary results whose origins have faded into obscurity, you can note that you learned these things from various textbooks yourself... not that you came up with it all yourself, for example. You could tell the textbooks you studied from.



Even if that information is not "tested-on", I think it sets a good model for the students.






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There are three different sorts of bibliographic entries in your situation, I think: suggestions for further reading (for the students), acknowledgement of your sources, and historical references. One should acknowledge one's sources, whether or not it "helps the students". I think it will help them in the larger sense of perhaps slightly better appreciating how human knowledge is advanced and organized. Including historical references helps people understand the timescale on which things happen.



Even with "well-known" relatively elementary results whose origins have faded into obscurity, you can note that you learned these things from various textbooks yourself... not that you came up with it all yourself, for example. You could tell the textbooks you studied from.



Even if that information is not "tested-on", I think it sets a good model for the students.






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  • Those are useful suggestions. Thanks.
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There are three different sorts of bibliographic entries in your situation, I think: suggestions for further reading (for the students), acknowledgement of your sources, and historical references. One should acknowledge one's sources, whether or not it "helps the students". I think it will help them in the larger sense of perhaps slightly better appreciating how human knowledge is advanced and organized. Including historical references helps people understand the timescale on which things happen.



Even with "well-known" relatively elementary results whose origins have faded into obscurity, you can note that you learned these things from various textbooks yourself... not that you came up with it all yourself, for example. You could tell the textbooks you studied from.



Even if that information is not "tested-on", I think it sets a good model for the students.






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There are three different sorts of bibliographic entries in your situation, I think: suggestions for further reading (for the students), acknowledgement of your sources, and historical references. One should acknowledge one's sources, whether or not it "helps the students". I think it will help them in the larger sense of perhaps slightly better appreciating how human knowledge is advanced and organized. Including historical references helps people understand the timescale on which things happen.



Even with "well-known" relatively elementary results whose origins have faded into obscurity, you can note that you learned these things from various textbooks yourself... not that you came up with it all yourself, for example. You could tell the textbooks you studied from.



Even if that information is not "tested-on", I think it sets a good model for the students.







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  • Those are useful suggestions. Thanks.
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  • Those are useful suggestions. Thanks.
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Those are useful suggestions. Thanks.
– Totoro
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Those are useful suggestions. Thanks.
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I suggest putting attributions in-line, as pointers to a "References" section using whatever citation format your institution generally uses, and providing a separate "Reading List" which may include material also attributed in the notes.






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I suggest putting attributions in-line, as pointers to a "References" section using whatever citation format your institution generally uses, and providing a separate "Reading List" which may include material also attributed in the notes.






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I suggest putting attributions in-line, as pointers to a "References" section using whatever citation format your institution generally uses, and providing a separate "Reading List" which may include material also attributed in the notes.






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I suggest putting attributions in-line, as pointers to a "References" section using whatever citation format your institution generally uses, and providing a separate "Reading List" which may include material also attributed in the notes.







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  • Very useful advice, thanks.
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  • Very useful advice, thanks.
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Very useful advice, thanks.
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Very useful advice, thanks.
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