Manager makes the work more difficult. How to inform him respectfully?

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Our team just received a new manager, and we feel he has completely unrealistic expectations for us. Here are some of the issues:



  1. Frequent scope creep. He's asking a non-programmer to develop a software project, and constantly interrupts him while he's working on the project, to implement a new feature that causes the project to become exponentially more difficult. And the deadline for the project stays the same. He then gets upset when the project release is constantly delayed. Lots of different issues continually pop up which need to be solved before the product can work.

  2. Frequently comes in to work late, with red eyes, and is often irrationally paranoid.

  3. Expects people to "get it" when there's a considerable amount of documentation lacking.

  4. Pulls people off urgent projects to work on things they have almost no experience with, and expects them to get up to speed quickly, leaving the entire team spread too thin to be effective in any area, or get anything done.

  5. Information overload. He constantly provides too much information and context about issues, such that we are temporarily pulled off other projects for up to several hours while we follow him down the rabbit hole.

  6. Excessive meetings where we discuss the same things we discuss throughout the day.

None of us are actually developers, nor does our job description entail it.



We've tried informing him about these issues, but it's right back to square one after a few days. I'm just not sure if my expectations for this role are realistic or not, but I've only been here for 6 months and I'm starting to feel pulled apart like putty.



He's a nice guy, and usually he agrees, but as said before he's usually back to the same way of doing things within a few days. How can we approach him and inform him that he's hurting, rather than helping us?










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  • This is very broad, you can;t tackle all those problems at once, you'll need to approach each individually and with care. Except the "red eyes" issue, leave that one alone.
    – solarflare
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    Just find a new job.
    – SmallChess
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    None of us are actually developers, nor does our job description entail it. Is the issue that your company doesn't have any developers and he's making you do this rather than hire people or do you have developers that he refuses to use? He's a nice guy Is he though?
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Our team just received a new manager, and we feel he has completely unrealistic expectations for us. Here are some of the issues:



  1. Frequent scope creep. He's asking a non-programmer to develop a software project, and constantly interrupts him while he's working on the project, to implement a new feature that causes the project to become exponentially more difficult. And the deadline for the project stays the same. He then gets upset when the project release is constantly delayed. Lots of different issues continually pop up which need to be solved before the product can work.

  2. Frequently comes in to work late, with red eyes, and is often irrationally paranoid.

  3. Expects people to "get it" when there's a considerable amount of documentation lacking.

  4. Pulls people off urgent projects to work on things they have almost no experience with, and expects them to get up to speed quickly, leaving the entire team spread too thin to be effective in any area, or get anything done.

  5. Information overload. He constantly provides too much information and context about issues, such that we are temporarily pulled off other projects for up to several hours while we follow him down the rabbit hole.

  6. Excessive meetings where we discuss the same things we discuss throughout the day.

None of us are actually developers, nor does our job description entail it.



We've tried informing him about these issues, but it's right back to square one after a few days. I'm just not sure if my expectations for this role are realistic or not, but I've only been here for 6 months and I'm starting to feel pulled apart like putty.



He's a nice guy, and usually he agrees, but as said before he's usually back to the same way of doing things within a few days. How can we approach him and inform him that he's hurting, rather than helping us?










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  • This is very broad, you can;t tackle all those problems at once, you'll need to approach each individually and with care. Except the "red eyes" issue, leave that one alone.
    – solarflare
    5 hours ago






  • 1




    Just find a new job.
    – SmallChess
    4 hours ago






  • 1




    None of us are actually developers, nor does our job description entail it. Is the issue that your company doesn't have any developers and he's making you do this rather than hire people or do you have developers that he refuses to use? He's a nice guy Is he though?
    – BSMP
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Our team just received a new manager, and we feel he has completely unrealistic expectations for us. Here are some of the issues:



  1. Frequent scope creep. He's asking a non-programmer to develop a software project, and constantly interrupts him while he's working on the project, to implement a new feature that causes the project to become exponentially more difficult. And the deadline for the project stays the same. He then gets upset when the project release is constantly delayed. Lots of different issues continually pop up which need to be solved before the product can work.

  2. Frequently comes in to work late, with red eyes, and is often irrationally paranoid.

  3. Expects people to "get it" when there's a considerable amount of documentation lacking.

  4. Pulls people off urgent projects to work on things they have almost no experience with, and expects them to get up to speed quickly, leaving the entire team spread too thin to be effective in any area, or get anything done.

  5. Information overload. He constantly provides too much information and context about issues, such that we are temporarily pulled off other projects for up to several hours while we follow him down the rabbit hole.

  6. Excessive meetings where we discuss the same things we discuss throughout the day.

None of us are actually developers, nor does our job description entail it.



We've tried informing him about these issues, but it's right back to square one after a few days. I'm just not sure if my expectations for this role are realistic or not, but I've only been here for 6 months and I'm starting to feel pulled apart like putty.



He's a nice guy, and usually he agrees, but as said before he's usually back to the same way of doing things within a few days. How can we approach him and inform him that he's hurting, rather than helping us?










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Our team just received a new manager, and we feel he has completely unrealistic expectations for us. Here are some of the issues:



  1. Frequent scope creep. He's asking a non-programmer to develop a software project, and constantly interrupts him while he's working on the project, to implement a new feature that causes the project to become exponentially more difficult. And the deadline for the project stays the same. He then gets upset when the project release is constantly delayed. Lots of different issues continually pop up which need to be solved before the product can work.

  2. Frequently comes in to work late, with red eyes, and is often irrationally paranoid.

  3. Expects people to "get it" when there's a considerable amount of documentation lacking.

  4. Pulls people off urgent projects to work on things they have almost no experience with, and expects them to get up to speed quickly, leaving the entire team spread too thin to be effective in any area, or get anything done.

  5. Information overload. He constantly provides too much information and context about issues, such that we are temporarily pulled off other projects for up to several hours while we follow him down the rabbit hole.

  6. Excessive meetings where we discuss the same things we discuss throughout the day.

None of us are actually developers, nor does our job description entail it.



We've tried informing him about these issues, but it's right back to square one after a few days. I'm just not sure if my expectations for this role are realistic or not, but I've only been here for 6 months and I'm starting to feel pulled apart like putty.



He's a nice guy, and usually he agrees, but as said before he's usually back to the same way of doing things within a few days. How can we approach him and inform him that he's hurting, rather than helping us?







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  • This is very broad, you can;t tackle all those problems at once, you'll need to approach each individually and with care. Except the "red eyes" issue, leave that one alone.
    – solarflare
    5 hours ago






  • 1




    Just find a new job.
    – SmallChess
    4 hours ago






  • 1




    None of us are actually developers, nor does our job description entail it. Is the issue that your company doesn't have any developers and he's making you do this rather than hire people or do you have developers that he refuses to use? He's a nice guy Is he though?
    – BSMP
    3 hours ago
















  • This is very broad, you can;t tackle all those problems at once, you'll need to approach each individually and with care. Except the "red eyes" issue, leave that one alone.
    – solarflare
    5 hours ago






  • 1




    Just find a new job.
    – SmallChess
    4 hours ago






  • 1




    None of us are actually developers, nor does our job description entail it. Is the issue that your company doesn't have any developers and he's making you do this rather than hire people or do you have developers that he refuses to use? He's a nice guy Is he though?
    – BSMP
    3 hours ago















This is very broad, you can;t tackle all those problems at once, you'll need to approach each individually and with care. Except the "red eyes" issue, leave that one alone.
– solarflare
5 hours ago




This is very broad, you can;t tackle all those problems at once, you'll need to approach each individually and with care. Except the "red eyes" issue, leave that one alone.
– solarflare
5 hours ago




1




1




Just find a new job.
– SmallChess
4 hours ago




Just find a new job.
– SmallChess
4 hours ago




1




1




None of us are actually developers, nor does our job description entail it. Is the issue that your company doesn't have any developers and he's making you do this rather than hire people or do you have developers that he refuses to use? He's a nice guy Is he though?
– BSMP
3 hours ago




None of us are actually developers, nor does our job description entail it. Is the issue that your company doesn't have any developers and he's making you do this rather than hire people or do you have developers that he refuses to use? He's a nice guy Is he though?
– BSMP
3 hours ago










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Given that you've already attempted informing your manager about these issues before, only for him to revert back to it after a few days, I think you need to find a different way of telling him about it.



Tell him in a direct manner about all points except for number 2 (because that might be brought on by personal issues rather than work-related stress), have someone more experienced, someone who's been in the team for long to let him know how he might be getting the wrong impression on what kind of team he's handling.



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If that still doesn't work then you either start taking it to the higher ups before the misfit manifests into a bad look for the company (if it hasn't already), or you just start looking for another job to get out of that working environment that is just bound to get worse.






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    Given that you've already attempted informing your manager about these issues before, only for him to revert back to it after a few days, I think you need to find a different way of telling him about it.



    Tell him in a direct manner about all points except for number 2 (because that might be brought on by personal issues rather than work-related stress), have someone more experienced, someone who's been in the team for long to let him know how he might be getting the wrong impression on what kind of team he's handling.



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    If that still doesn't work then you either start taking it to the higher ups before the misfit manifests into a bad look for the company (if it hasn't already), or you just start looking for another job to get out of that working environment that is just bound to get worse.






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      Given that you've already attempted informing your manager about these issues before, only for him to revert back to it after a few days, I think you need to find a different way of telling him about it.



      Tell him in a direct manner about all points except for number 2 (because that might be brought on by personal issues rather than work-related stress), have someone more experienced, someone who's been in the team for long to let him know how he might be getting the wrong impression on what kind of team he's handling.



      Edit:
      If that still doesn't work then you either start taking it to the higher ups before the misfit manifests into a bad look for the company (if it hasn't already), or you just start looking for another job to get out of that working environment that is just bound to get worse.






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        Given that you've already attempted informing your manager about these issues before, only for him to revert back to it after a few days, I think you need to find a different way of telling him about it.



        Tell him in a direct manner about all points except for number 2 (because that might be brought on by personal issues rather than work-related stress), have someone more experienced, someone who's been in the team for long to let him know how he might be getting the wrong impression on what kind of team he's handling.



        Edit:
        If that still doesn't work then you either start taking it to the higher ups before the misfit manifests into a bad look for the company (if it hasn't already), or you just start looking for another job to get out of that working environment that is just bound to get worse.






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        Given that you've already attempted informing your manager about these issues before, only for him to revert back to it after a few days, I think you need to find a different way of telling him about it.



        Tell him in a direct manner about all points except for number 2 (because that might be brought on by personal issues rather than work-related stress), have someone more experienced, someone who's been in the team for long to let him know how he might be getting the wrong impression on what kind of team he's handling.



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        If that still doesn't work then you either start taking it to the higher ups before the misfit manifests into a bad look for the company (if it hasn't already), or you just start looking for another job to get out of that working environment that is just bound to get worse.







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