Is a Subgroup Characteristic in its Normalizer?

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Let $G$ be a finite group and $H subseteq G$. Is it true that $H$ is a characteristic subgroup of $N_G(H)$? Knowing that "the something" subgroup must be characteristic, I believe it must be true.
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  • Note that $H$ is not "the something" subgroup of $N_G(H)$ here...
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Let $G$ be a finite group and $H subseteq G$. Is it true that $H$ is a characteristic subgroup of $N_G(H)$? Knowing that "the something" subgroup must be characteristic, I believe it must be true.
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Let $G$ be a finite group and $H subseteq G$. Is it true that $H$ is a characteristic subgroup of $N_G(H)$? Knowing that "the something" subgroup must be characteristic, I believe it must be true.
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Let $G$ be a finite group and $H subseteq G$. Is it true that $H$ is a characteristic subgroup of $N_G(H)$? Knowing that "the something" subgroup must be characteristic, I believe it must be true.
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  • Note that $H$ is not "the something" subgroup of $N_G(H)$ here...
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  • Note that $H$ is not "the something" subgroup of $N_G(H)$ here...
    – verret
    3 hours ago















Note that $H$ is not "the something" subgroup of $N_G(H)$ here...
– verret
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Note that $H$ is not "the something" subgroup of $N_G(H)$ here...
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Let $G=C_ptimes C_p$ and $H$ any subgroup of order $p$. Then $N_G(H)=G$
but $H$ is not characteristic in $G$.






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  • Nice example! thank you1
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The normalizer of any subgroup of an abelian group is the whole group, but there are subgroups of abelian groups that are not characteristic.






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  • Thank you for the counterexample!
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Let $G=C_ptimes C_p$ and $H$ any subgroup of order $p$. Then $N_G(H)=G$
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Let $G=C_ptimes C_p$ and $H$ any subgroup of order $p$. Then $N_G(H)=G$
but $H$ is not characteristic in $G$.






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  • Nice example! thank you1
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Let $G=C_ptimes C_p$ and $H$ any subgroup of order $p$. Then $N_G(H)=G$
but $H$ is not characteristic in $G$.






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Let $G=C_ptimes C_p$ and $H$ any subgroup of order $p$. Then $N_G(H)=G$
but $H$ is not characteristic in $G$.







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  • Nice example! thank you1
    – Sean
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  • Nice example! thank you1
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Nice example! thank you1
– Sean
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Nice example! thank you1
– Sean
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The normalizer of any subgroup of an abelian group is the whole group, but there are subgroups of abelian groups that are not characteristic.






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  • Thank you for the counterexample!
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  • @Sean No problem.
    – Matt Samuel
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The normalizer of any subgroup of an abelian group is the whole group, but there are subgroups of abelian groups that are not characteristic.






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  • @Sean No problem.
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The normalizer of any subgroup of an abelian group is the whole group, but there are subgroups of abelian groups that are not characteristic.






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The normalizer of any subgroup of an abelian group is the whole group, but there are subgroups of abelian groups that are not characteristic.







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  • Thank you for the counterexample!
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  • @Sean No problem.
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  • Thank you for the counterexample!
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  • @Sean No problem.
    – Matt Samuel
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Thank you for the counterexample!
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Thank you for the counterexample!
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@Sean No problem.
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@Sean No problem.
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