Make commas not italicized inside a macro using textit

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I'm trying to set up a shortcut for writing semantic types. These are usually written inside $langle$ and $rangle$ delimiters, with italicized letters standing for each type and commas separating these. They should look something like this:



enter image description here



I've come up with a macro like the following:



newcommandtype[1]%
 $langle$textit#1$rangle$%



However, this of course results in the commas being italicized, too, which is not usually done in this context:



enter image description here



Is there a way to exclude commas from being italicized when using this command?



MWE:



documentclassarticle

newcommandtype[1]%
 $langle$textit#1$rangle$%


usepackage[T1]fontenc
usepackagetimes

begindocument
 typee, t % Don't want comma italicized
 $langle e, trangle$ % Don't want math typeface for letters
 $langle$textite, textitt$rangle$ % Desired result, but cumbersome
enddocument


Edit:



To clarify, the reason I don't want to just do $langle#1#rangle$ is because I want the semantic types to be set in the same typeface as the main text, not the math mode typeface. I've updated the MWE to reflect this, and here's the comparison:



enter image description here






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    it seems logically wrong to use the text face here, for textit will pick up tje current text style eg bold, you seem to be just useing the deprecated times package so using times roman text with computer modern math, if you used compatible math and text types it may look better to use the math font here.
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I'm trying to set up a shortcut for writing semantic types. These are usually written inside $langle$ and $rangle$ delimiters, with italicized letters standing for each type and commas separating these. They should look something like this:



enter image description here



I've come up with a macro like the following:



newcommandtype[1]%
 $langle$textit#1$rangle$%



However, this of course results in the commas being italicized, too, which is not usually done in this context:



enter image description here



Is there a way to exclude commas from being italicized when using this command?



MWE:



documentclassarticle

newcommandtype[1]%
 $langle$textit#1$rangle$%


usepackage[T1]fontenc
usepackagetimes

begindocument
 typee, t % Don't want comma italicized
 $langle e, trangle$ % Don't want math typeface for letters
 $langle$textite, textitt$rangle$ % Desired result, but cumbersome
enddocument


Edit:



To clarify, the reason I don't want to just do $langle#1#rangle$ is because I want the semantic types to be set in the same typeface as the main text, not the math mode typeface. I've updated the MWE to reflect this, and here's the comparison:



enter image description here






italic







share|improve this question



















  • 1




    it seems logically wrong to use the text face here, for textit will pick up tje current text style eg bold, you seem to be just useing the deprecated times package so using times roman text with computer modern math, if you used compatible math and text types it may look better to use the math font here.
    – David Carlisle
    36 mins ago












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I'm trying to set up a shortcut for writing semantic types. These are usually written inside $langle$ and $rangle$ delimiters, with italicized letters standing for each type and commas separating these. They should look something like this:



enter image description here



I've come up with a macro like the following:



newcommandtype[1]%
 $langle$textit#1$rangle$%



However, this of course results in the commas being italicized, too, which is not usually done in this context:



enter image description here



Is there a way to exclude commas from being italicized when using this command?



MWE:



documentclassarticle

newcommandtype[1]%
 $langle$textit#1$rangle$%


usepackage[T1]fontenc
usepackagetimes

begindocument
 typee, t % Don't want comma italicized
 $langle e, trangle$ % Don't want math typeface for letters
 $langle$textite, textitt$rangle$ % Desired result, but cumbersome
enddocument


Edit:



To clarify, the reason I don't want to just do $langle#1#rangle$ is because I want the semantic types to be set in the same typeface as the main text, not the math mode typeface. I've updated the MWE to reflect this, and here's the comparison:



enter image description here






italic







share|improve this question















I'm trying to set up a shortcut for writing semantic types. These are usually written inside $langle$ and $rangle$ delimiters, with italicized letters standing for each type and commas separating these. They should look something like this:



enter image description here



I've come up with a macro like the following:



newcommandtype[1]%
 $langle$textit#1$rangle$%



However, this of course results in the commas being italicized, too, which is not usually done in this context:



enter image description here



Is there a way to exclude commas from being italicized when using this command?



MWE:



documentclassarticle

newcommandtype[1]%
 $langle$textit#1$rangle$%


usepackage[T1]fontenc
usepackagetimes

begindocument
 typee, t % Don't want comma italicized
 $langle e, trangle$ % Don't want math typeface for letters
 $langle$textite, textitt$rangle$ % Desired result, but cumbersome
enddocument


Edit:



To clarify, the reason I don't want to just do $langle#1#rangle$ is because I want the semantic types to be set in the same typeface as the main text, not the math mode typeface. I've updated the MWE to reflect this, and here's the comparison:



enter image description here






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    it seems logically wrong to use the text face here, for textit will pick up tje current text style eg bold, you seem to be just useing the deprecated times package so using times roman text with computer modern math, if you used compatible math and text types it may look better to use the math font here.
    – David Carlisle
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  • 1




    it seems logically wrong to use the text face here, for textit will pick up tje current text style eg bold, you seem to be just useing the deprecated times package so using times roman text with computer modern math, if you used compatible math and text types it may look better to use the math font here.
    – David Carlisle
    36 mins ago







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it seems logically wrong to use the text face here, for textit will pick up tje current text style eg bold, you seem to be just useing the deprecated times package so using times roman text with computer modern math, if you used compatible math and text types it may look better to use the math font here.
– David Carlisle
36 mins ago




it seems logically wrong to use the text face here, for textit will pick up tje current text style eg bold, you seem to be just useing the deprecated times package so using times roman text with computer modern math, if you used compatible math and text types it may look better to use the math font here.
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You want the semantic types to be math variables. Note mathptmx below, not the long deprecated times package.



documentclassarticle
usepackage[T1]fontenc
usepackagemathptmx

newcommandtype[1]ensuremathlangle#1rangle

begindocument

typee, t

$langle$textite, textitt$rangle$

enddocument


enter image description here



As you see, the only difference is in the (excessive) spacing in the complicated version.



An even better version, because newtx provides for much richer Times-like fonts for math:



documentclassarticle
usepackage[T1]fontenc
usepackagenewtxtext,newtxmath

newcommandtype[1]ensuremathlangle#1rangle

begindocument

typee, t

$langle$textite, textitt$rangle$

enddocument


enter image description here



For XeLaTeX and text font set to TeX Gyre Pagella, use newpxmath; a small fix is needed, though.



documentclassarticle
usepackage[no-math]fontspec
usepackagenewpxmath
usepackageamsmath

setmainfontTeX Gyre Pagella

DeclareSymbolFontoperatorsOT1zpltlfmn
SetSymbolFontoperatorsboldOT1zpltlfbn

newcommandtype[1]ensuremathlangle#1rangle

begindocument

typee, t

enddocument





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    How about using:



    documentclassarticle

    deftype<#1,#2>$langle$textit#1, textit#2$rangle$

    begindocument
     type<e, t>
    enddocument


    to produce:



    enter image description here



    You could also drop the type and just use



    def<#1,#2>$langle$textit#1, textit#2$rangle$


    and then have <e,t> in your document.



    EDIT



    To allow for nesting you should explicitly typeset the comma in textrm:



    documentclassarticle

    def<#1,#2>$langle$textit#1textrm, textit#2$rangle$

    begindocument
     <e, t>

     <<e,t>,<e,t>>
    enddocument





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      You want the semantic types to be math variables. Note mathptmx below, not the long deprecated times package.



      documentclassarticle
      usepackage[T1]fontenc
      usepackagemathptmx

      newcommandtype[1]ensuremathlangle#1rangle

      begindocument

      typee, t

      $langle$textite, textitt$rangle$

      enddocument


      enter image description here



      As you see, the only difference is in the (excessive) spacing in the complicated version.



      An even better version, because newtx provides for much richer Times-like fonts for math:



      documentclassarticle
      usepackage[T1]fontenc
      usepackagenewtxtext,newtxmath

      newcommandtype[1]ensuremathlangle#1rangle

      begindocument

      typee, t

      $langle$textite, textitt$rangle$

      enddocument


      enter image description here



      For XeLaTeX and text font set to TeX Gyre Pagella, use newpxmath; a small fix is needed, though.



      documentclassarticle
      usepackage[no-math]fontspec
      usepackagenewpxmath
      usepackageamsmath

      setmainfontTeX Gyre Pagella

      DeclareSymbolFontoperatorsOT1zpltlfmn
      SetSymbolFontoperatorsboldOT1zpltlfbn

      newcommandtype[1]ensuremathlangle#1rangle

      begindocument

      typee, t

      enddocument





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        accepted










        You want the semantic types to be math variables. Note mathptmx below, not the long deprecated times package.



        documentclassarticle
        usepackage[T1]fontenc
        usepackagemathptmx

        newcommandtype[1]ensuremathlangle#1rangle

        begindocument

        typee, t

        $langle$textite, textitt$rangle$

        enddocument


        enter image description here



        As you see, the only difference is in the (excessive) spacing in the complicated version.



        An even better version, because newtx provides for much richer Times-like fonts for math:



        documentclassarticle
        usepackage[T1]fontenc
        usepackagenewtxtext,newtxmath

        newcommandtype[1]ensuremathlangle#1rangle

        begindocument

        typee, t

        $langle$textite, textitt$rangle$

        enddocument


        enter image description here



        For XeLaTeX and text font set to TeX Gyre Pagella, use newpxmath; a small fix is needed, though.



        documentclassarticle
        usepackage[no-math]fontspec
        usepackagenewpxmath
        usepackageamsmath

        setmainfontTeX Gyre Pagella

        DeclareSymbolFontoperatorsOT1zpltlfmn
        SetSymbolFontoperatorsboldOT1zpltlfbn

        newcommandtype[1]ensuremathlangle#1rangle

        begindocument

        typee, t

        enddocument





        share|improve this answer
























          up vote
          3
          down vote



          accepted







          up vote
          3
          down vote



          accepted






          You want the semantic types to be math variables. Note mathptmx below, not the long deprecated times package.



          documentclassarticle
          usepackage[T1]fontenc
          usepackagemathptmx

          newcommandtype[1]ensuremathlangle#1rangle

          begindocument

          typee, t

          $langle$textite, textitt$rangle$

          enddocument


          enter image description here



          As you see, the only difference is in the (excessive) spacing in the complicated version.



          An even better version, because newtx provides for much richer Times-like fonts for math:



          documentclassarticle
          usepackage[T1]fontenc
          usepackagenewtxtext,newtxmath

          newcommandtype[1]ensuremathlangle#1rangle

          begindocument

          typee, t

          $langle$textite, textitt$rangle$

          enddocument


          enter image description here



          For XeLaTeX and text font set to TeX Gyre Pagella, use newpxmath; a small fix is needed, though.



          documentclassarticle
          usepackage[no-math]fontspec
          usepackagenewpxmath
          usepackageamsmath

          setmainfontTeX Gyre Pagella

          DeclareSymbolFontoperatorsOT1zpltlfmn
          SetSymbolFontoperatorsboldOT1zpltlfbn

          newcommandtype[1]ensuremathlangle#1rangle

          begindocument

          typee, t

          enddocument





          share|improve this answer














          You want the semantic types to be math variables. Note mathptmx below, not the long deprecated times package.



          documentclassarticle
          usepackage[T1]fontenc
          usepackagemathptmx

          newcommandtype[1]ensuremathlangle#1rangle

          begindocument

          typee, t

          $langle$textite, textitt$rangle$

          enddocument


          enter image description here



          As you see, the only difference is in the (excessive) spacing in the complicated version.



          An even better version, because newtx provides for much richer Times-like fonts for math:



          documentclassarticle
          usepackage[T1]fontenc
          usepackagenewtxtext,newtxmath

          newcommandtype[1]ensuremathlangle#1rangle

          begindocument

          typee, t

          $langle$textite, textitt$rangle$

          enddocument


          enter image description here



          For XeLaTeX and text font set to TeX Gyre Pagella, use newpxmath; a small fix is needed, though.



          documentclassarticle
          usepackage[no-math]fontspec
          usepackagenewpxmath
          usepackageamsmath

          setmainfontTeX Gyre Pagella

          DeclareSymbolFontoperatorsOT1zpltlfmn
          SetSymbolFontoperatorsboldOT1zpltlfbn

          newcommandtype[1]ensuremathlangle#1rangle

          begindocument

          typee, t

          enddocument






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              How about using:



              documentclassarticle

              deftype<#1,#2>$langle$textit#1, textit#2$rangle$

              begindocument
               type<e, t>
              enddocument


              to produce:



              enter image description here



              You could also drop the type and just use



              def<#1,#2>$langle$textit#1, textit#2$rangle$


              and then have <e,t> in your document.



              EDIT



              To allow for nesting you should explicitly typeset the comma in textrm:



              documentclassarticle

              def<#1,#2>$langle$textit#1textrm, textit#2$rangle$

              begindocument
               <e, t>

               <<e,t>,<e,t>>
              enddocument





              share|improve this answer


























                up vote
                2
                down vote













                How about using:



                documentclassarticle

                deftype<#1,#2>$langle$textit#1, textit#2$rangle$

                begindocument
                 type<e, t>
                enddocument


                to produce:



                enter image description here



                You could also drop the type and just use



                def<#1,#2>$langle$textit#1, textit#2$rangle$


                and then have <e,t> in your document.



                EDIT



                To allow for nesting you should explicitly typeset the comma in textrm:



                documentclassarticle

                def<#1,#2>$langle$textit#1textrm, textit#2$rangle$

                begindocument
                 <e, t>

                 <<e,t>,<e,t>>
                enddocument





                share|improve this answer
























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                  How about using:



                  documentclassarticle

                  deftype<#1,#2>$langle$textit#1, textit#2$rangle$

                  begindocument
                   type<e, t>
                  enddocument


                  to produce:



                  enter image description here



                  You could also drop the type and just use



                  def<#1,#2>$langle$textit#1, textit#2$rangle$


                  and then have <e,t> in your document.



                  EDIT



                  To allow for nesting you should explicitly typeset the comma in textrm:



                  documentclassarticle

                  def<#1,#2>$langle$textit#1textrm, textit#2$rangle$

                  begindocument
                   <e, t>

                   <<e,t>,<e,t>>
                  enddocument





                  share|improve this answer














                  How about using:



                  documentclassarticle

                  deftype<#1,#2>$langle$textit#1, textit#2$rangle$

                  begindocument
                   type<e, t>
                  enddocument


                  to produce:



                  enter image description here



                  You could also drop the type and just use



                  def<#1,#2>$langle$textit#1, textit#2$rangle$


                  and then have <e,t> in your document.



                  EDIT



                  To allow for nesting you should explicitly typeset the comma in textrm:



                  documentclassarticle

                  def<#1,#2>$langle$textit#1textrm, textit#2$rangle$

                  begindocument
                   <e, t>

                   <<e,t>,<e,t>>
                  enddocument






                  share|improve this answer














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