How similar have terms to be to connect them with èÂÂ, èÂÂå ¶ï¼ÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶ï¼Â
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I often want to make my sentences short in order to pass our classroom exercise of writing a ç°¡é« abstract from memory in under 5 minutes. The biggest problem seems to be that I use èÂÂï¼ÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶ï¼ÂèÂÂå ¶ï¼Âin inadmissible places.
The info we were given says, è can be used to connect nominal, adjectival and verbal phrases, with the first ones being the norm.
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Some people accepted
- å¾Â該æ¥起å¨æ¤屠ä½ÂèÂÂå¸æ¸ãÂÂ
others wanted to replace è with 並ãÂÂ
The following was rejected explicitly on the grounds of the terms of ç¾Âå and ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂæ¿治æ¹泠being ä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂé¡ÂãÂÂ
2a.該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂèÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ
Would it be better to use this?
2b. 該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ
On youdao there are sentences such as:
2c. æÂÂ们å¾Âä¹ÂæÂÂ为è¿ÂæÂÂæ¿åÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶åºÂé¢æÂÂç §ãÂÂ
Which I would assume to be exactly the type of 2b, particularly regarding similarity of terms (which I perhaps misunderstand). What about this?
3a. è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人èÂÂ堶課ç¨ÂãÂÂ
What about replacing èÂÂå ¶ with Ã¥ÂÂå ¶?
3b. è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人åÂÂ堶課ç¨ÂãÂÂ
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I often want to make my sentences short in order to pass our classroom exercise of writing a ç°¡é« abstract from memory in under 5 minutes. The biggest problem seems to be that I use èÂÂï¼ÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶ï¼ÂèÂÂå ¶ï¼Âin inadmissible places.
The info we were given says, è can be used to connect nominal, adjectival and verbal phrases, with the first ones being the norm.
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形容è¯Âæ§è¯Âè¯Âï¼Âå¤Âç¨äºÂ书é¢è¯Âï¼Â书åÂÂãÂÂæ Âé¢Âä¸Â常è§ÂãÂÂ
Some people accepted
- å¾Â該æ¥起å¨æ¤屠ä½ÂèÂÂå¸æ¸ãÂÂ
others wanted to replace è with 並ãÂÂ
The following was rejected explicitly on the grounds of the terms of ç¾Âå and ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂæ¿治æ¹泠being ä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂé¡ÂãÂÂ
2a.該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂèÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ
Would it be better to use this?
2b. 該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ
On youdao there are sentences such as:
2c. æÂÂ们å¾Âä¹ÂæÂÂ为è¿ÂæÂÂæ¿åÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶åºÂé¢æÂÂç §ãÂÂ
Which I would assume to be exactly the type of 2b, particularly regarding similarity of terms (which I perhaps misunderstand). What about this?
3a. è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人èÂÂ堶課ç¨ÂãÂÂ
What about replacing èÂÂå ¶ with Ã¥ÂÂå ¶?
3b. è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人åÂÂ堶課ç¨ÂãÂÂ
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I often want to make my sentences short in order to pass our classroom exercise of writing a ç°¡é« abstract from memory in under 5 minutes. The biggest problem seems to be that I use èÂÂï¼ÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶ï¼ÂèÂÂå ¶ï¼Âin inadmissible places.
The info we were given says, è can be used to connect nominal, adjectival and verbal phrases, with the first ones being the norm.
âÂÂä¸ÂâÂÂè¾Âå¤Âè¿ÂæÂ¥åÂÂè¯Âæ§è¯Âè¯Âï¼Âä¹Âå¯è¿ÂæÂ¥å¨è¯Âæ§ãÂÂ
形容è¯Âæ§è¯Âè¯Âï¼Âå¤Âç¨äºÂ书é¢è¯Âï¼Â书åÂÂãÂÂæ Âé¢Âä¸Â常è§ÂãÂÂ
Some people accepted
- å¾Â該æ¥起å¨æ¤屠ä½ÂèÂÂå¸æ¸ãÂÂ
others wanted to replace è with 並ãÂÂ
The following was rejected explicitly on the grounds of the terms of ç¾Âå and ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂæ¿治æ¹泠being ä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂé¡ÂãÂÂ
2a.該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂèÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ
Would it be better to use this?
2b. 該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ
On youdao there are sentences such as:
2c. æÂÂ们å¾Âä¹ÂæÂÂ为è¿ÂæÂÂæ¿åÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶åºÂé¢æÂÂç §ãÂÂ
Which I would assume to be exactly the type of 2b, particularly regarding similarity of terms (which I perhaps misunderstand). What about this?
3a. è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人èÂÂ堶課ç¨ÂãÂÂ
What about replacing èÂÂå ¶ with Ã¥ÂÂå ¶?
3b. è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人åÂÂ堶課ç¨ÂãÂÂ
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I often want to make my sentences short in order to pass our classroom exercise of writing a ç°¡é« abstract from memory in under 5 minutes. The biggest problem seems to be that I use èÂÂï¼ÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶ï¼ÂèÂÂå ¶ï¼Âin inadmissible places.
The info we were given says, è can be used to connect nominal, adjectival and verbal phrases, with the first ones being the norm.
âÂÂä¸ÂâÂÂè¾Âå¤Âè¿ÂæÂ¥åÂÂè¯Âæ§è¯Âè¯Âï¼Âä¹Âå¯è¿ÂæÂ¥å¨è¯Âæ§ãÂÂ
形容è¯Âæ§è¯Âè¯Âï¼Âå¤Âç¨äºÂ书é¢è¯Âï¼Â书åÂÂãÂÂæ Âé¢Âä¸Â常è§ÂãÂÂ
Some people accepted
- å¾Â該æ¥起å¨æ¤屠ä½ÂèÂÂå¸æ¸ãÂÂ
others wanted to replace è with 並ãÂÂ
The following was rejected explicitly on the grounds of the terms of ç¾Âå and ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂæ¿治æ¹泠being ä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂé¡ÂãÂÂ
2a.該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂèÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ
Would it be better to use this?
2b. 該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ
On youdao there are sentences such as:
2c. æÂÂ们å¾Âä¹ÂæÂÂ为è¿ÂæÂÂæ¿åÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶åºÂé¢æÂÂç §ãÂÂ
Which I would assume to be exactly the type of 2b, particularly regarding similarity of terms (which I perhaps misunderstand). What about this?
3a. è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人èÂÂ堶課ç¨ÂãÂÂ
What about replacing èÂÂå ¶ with Ã¥ÂÂå ¶?
3b. è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人åÂÂ堶課ç¨ÂãÂÂ
conjunction
conjunction
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èÂÂï¼ åÂÂï¼Âand;
èÂÂ堶@åÂÂä»ÂçÂÂï¼ and one's;
Ã¥ÂÂ堶@è¿ÂæÂÂä»ÂçÂÂï¼Âand also one's;
Back to your examples:
- å¾Â該æ¥起å¨æ¤屠ä½ÂèÂÂå¸æ¸ãÂÂ// fine
2a.該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂèÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ// wrong as the reason you said
2b. 該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ// fine, [research on America and its methodology of politics].
2c. æÂÂ们å¾Âä¹ÂæÂÂ为è¿ÂæÂÂæ¿åÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶åºÂé¢æÂÂç §ã // fine, [take pictures for this house and also its courtyard.]
3a. è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人èÂÂ堶課ç¨ÂãÂÂ// wrong, the same reason as 2a
3b. è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人åÂÂ堶課ç¨ÂãÂÂ// fine, [disagree/disapprove the leader of ... and also his courses.]
So it seems Ã¥ÂÂå ¶ can be applied much broadly! So basically èÂÂå ¶ is only for cases like é»Â大人èÂÂ堶太太ï¼Â
â Ludi
5 hours ago
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@Ludi, I think so. èÂÂå ¶ is used less than Ã¥ÂÂå ¶ from my experience. Maybe, it's a different case for people from other regions. For é»ÂæÂÂ人èÂÂ堶太太, we usually just say: é»ÂæÂÂ人åÂÂä»ÂçÂÂ太太.
â dan
4 hours ago
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èÂÂå ¶ cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/words/1885 has other meaning in different context, when it's placement is different : rather than... / èÂÂå ¶ A ä¸Â妠B (rather than A, better to B)
â Tang Ho
3 hours ago
yes, "èÂÂå ¶" should be translated as "rather than"
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"èÂÂå ¶" ought to be translated as "rather than".
this term was used since classical chinese times, together with "ä¸Âå¦Â", "ä¸ÂèÂÂ¥", "寧" or "寧å¯". it's usage in modern vernacular Chinese should be similar.
i don't think that "èÂÂå ¶" means "and it's / one's".
http://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/cgi-bin/cbdic/gsweb.cgi?o=dcbdic&searchid=Z00000163825
about some of your sentences:
å¾Â該æ¥起å¨æ¤屠ä½ÂèÂÂå¸æ¸
èª該æ¥起å¨æ¤çÂÂå¸
"çÂÂå¸" - å± ç & å¸ç¿Â
該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³Â
"æ¿治æ¹æ³Â", imo, is odd, i would prefer "æ¿å¶" or "æ¿治å¶度" (political system)
btw, "該ç Â究" is also odd, does it mean "such research"?
è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人åÂÂ堶課ç¨Â
è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂéÂÂé¦ÂÃ¥ÂÂ堶課ç¨Â
http://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/cgi-bin/cbdic/gsweb.cgi?ccd=RvYdcM&o=e0&sec=sec1&op=v&view=1-1
i hate "çÂÂ".
Many thanks! 該 was supposed to mean æÂÂ該ãÂÂI cut out a lot of characters, so that I can write the entire thing in under 5 minutes. The teachers sentence was: è¡é©說ï¼Âä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂä»Â麼é½æ²ÂæÂÂ西æ¹好ï¼ÂæÂÂ以ä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂä¸Âå®Âä¸Âå¯以åÂÂéÂÂ樣äºÂãÂÂè¦Âå¸ç¿Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼Âä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂå¿ é Âç¨ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¿治çÂÂ辦æ³Âï¼Âå çºï¼Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¿治çÂÂ辦æ³ÂæÂÂ好ï¼ÂMy attempt of a summary in written Chinese was: ä»ÂèªÂçºä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¹é¢é½ä¸Âå¦Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼Â該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ
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@ludi, i would try something like: è¡é©èªÂçºä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¯Âä¸Âä¸Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼ÂæÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶å¸ç¿Âï¼Âç Â究堶æ¿å¶ :)
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èÂÂï¼ åÂÂï¼Âand;
èÂÂ堶@åÂÂä»ÂçÂÂï¼ and one's;
Ã¥ÂÂ堶@è¿ÂæÂÂä»ÂçÂÂï¼Âand also one's;
Back to your examples:
- å¾Â該æ¥起å¨æ¤屠ä½ÂèÂÂå¸æ¸ãÂÂ// fine
2a.該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂèÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ// wrong as the reason you said
2b. 該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ// fine, [research on America and its methodology of politics].
2c. æÂÂ们å¾Âä¹ÂæÂÂ为è¿ÂæÂÂæ¿åÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶åºÂé¢æÂÂç §ã // fine, [take pictures for this house and also its courtyard.]
3a. è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人èÂÂ堶課ç¨ÂãÂÂ// wrong, the same reason as 2a
3b. è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人åÂÂ堶課ç¨ÂãÂÂ// fine, [disagree/disapprove the leader of ... and also his courses.]
So it seems Ã¥ÂÂå ¶ can be applied much broadly! So basically èÂÂå ¶ is only for cases like é»Â大人èÂÂ堶太太ï¼Â
â Ludi
5 hours ago
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@Ludi, I think so. èÂÂå ¶ is used less than Ã¥ÂÂå ¶ from my experience. Maybe, it's a different case for people from other regions. For é»ÂæÂÂ人èÂÂ堶太太, we usually just say: é»ÂæÂÂ人åÂÂä»ÂçÂÂ太太.
â dan
4 hours ago
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èÂÂå ¶ cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/words/1885 has other meaning in different context, when it's placement is different : rather than... / èÂÂå ¶ A ä¸Â妠B (rather than A, better to B)
â Tang Ho
3 hours ago
yes, "èÂÂå ¶" should be translated as "rather than"
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èÂÂï¼ åÂÂï¼Âand;
èÂÂ堶@åÂÂä»ÂçÂÂï¼ and one's;
Ã¥ÂÂ堶@è¿ÂæÂÂä»ÂçÂÂï¼Âand also one's;
Back to your examples:
- å¾Â該æ¥起å¨æ¤屠ä½ÂèÂÂå¸æ¸ãÂÂ// fine
2a.該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂèÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ// wrong as the reason you said
2b. 該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ// fine, [research on America and its methodology of politics].
2c. æÂÂ们å¾Âä¹ÂæÂÂ为è¿ÂæÂÂæ¿åÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶åºÂé¢æÂÂç §ã // fine, [take pictures for this house and also its courtyard.]
3a. è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人èÂÂ堶課ç¨ÂãÂÂ// wrong, the same reason as 2a
3b. è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人åÂÂ堶課ç¨ÂãÂÂ// fine, [disagree/disapprove the leader of ... and also his courses.]
So it seems Ã¥ÂÂå ¶ can be applied much broadly! So basically èÂÂå ¶ is only for cases like é»Â大人èÂÂ堶太太ï¼Â
â Ludi
5 hours ago
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@Ludi, I think so. èÂÂå ¶ is used less than Ã¥ÂÂå ¶ from my experience. Maybe, it's a different case for people from other regions. For é»ÂæÂÂ人èÂÂ堶太太, we usually just say: é»ÂæÂÂ人åÂÂä»ÂçÂÂ太太.
â dan
4 hours ago
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èÂÂå ¶ cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/words/1885 has other meaning in different context, when it's placement is different : rather than... / èÂÂå ¶ A ä¸Â妠B (rather than A, better to B)
â Tang Ho
3 hours ago
yes, "èÂÂå ¶" should be translated as "rather than"
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èÂÂï¼ åÂÂï¼Âand;
èÂÂ堶@åÂÂä»ÂçÂÂï¼ and one's;
Ã¥ÂÂ堶@è¿ÂæÂÂä»ÂçÂÂï¼Âand also one's;
Back to your examples:
- å¾Â該æ¥起å¨æ¤屠ä½ÂèÂÂå¸æ¸ãÂÂ// fine
2a.該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂèÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ// wrong as the reason you said
2b. 該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ// fine, [research on America and its methodology of politics].
2c. æÂÂ们å¾Âä¹ÂæÂÂ为è¿ÂæÂÂæ¿åÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶åºÂé¢æÂÂç §ã // fine, [take pictures for this house and also its courtyard.]
3a. è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人èÂÂ堶課ç¨ÂãÂÂ// wrong, the same reason as 2a
3b. è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人åÂÂ堶課ç¨ÂãÂÂ// fine, [disagree/disapprove the leader of ... and also his courses.]
èÂÂï¼ åÂÂï¼Âand;
èÂÂ堶@åÂÂä»ÂçÂÂï¼ and one's;
Ã¥ÂÂ堶@è¿ÂæÂÂä»ÂçÂÂï¼Âand also one's;
Back to your examples:
- å¾Â該æ¥起å¨æ¤屠ä½ÂèÂÂå¸æ¸ãÂÂ// fine
2a.該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂèÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ// wrong as the reason you said
2b. 該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ// fine, [research on America and its methodology of politics].
2c. æÂÂ们å¾Âä¹ÂæÂÂ为è¿ÂæÂÂæ¿åÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶åºÂé¢æÂÂç §ã // fine, [take pictures for this house and also its courtyard.]
3a. è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人èÂÂ堶課ç¨ÂãÂÂ// wrong, the same reason as 2a
3b. è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人åÂÂ堶課ç¨ÂãÂÂ// fine, [disagree/disapprove the leader of ... and also his courses.]
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So it seems Ã¥ÂÂå ¶ can be applied much broadly! So basically èÂÂå ¶ is only for cases like é»Â大人èÂÂ堶太太ï¼Â
â Ludi
5 hours ago
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@Ludi, I think so. èÂÂå ¶ is used less than Ã¥ÂÂå ¶ from my experience. Maybe, it's a different case for people from other regions. For é»ÂæÂÂ人èÂÂ堶太太, we usually just say: é»ÂæÂÂ人åÂÂä»ÂçÂÂ太太.
â dan
4 hours ago
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èÂÂå ¶ cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/words/1885 has other meaning in different context, when it's placement is different : rather than... / èÂÂå ¶ A ä¸Â妠B (rather than A, better to B)
â Tang Ho
3 hours ago
yes, "èÂÂå ¶" should be translated as "rather than"
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So it seems Ã¥ÂÂå ¶ can be applied much broadly! So basically èÂÂå ¶ is only for cases like é»Â大人èÂÂ堶太太ï¼Â
â Ludi
5 hours ago
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@Ludi, I think so. èÂÂå ¶ is used less than Ã¥ÂÂå ¶ from my experience. Maybe, it's a different case for people from other regions. For é»ÂæÂÂ人èÂÂ堶太太, we usually just say: é»ÂæÂÂ人åÂÂä»ÂçÂÂ太太.
â dan
4 hours ago
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èÂÂå ¶ cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/words/1885 has other meaning in different context, when it's placement is different : rather than... / èÂÂå ¶ A ä¸Â妠B (rather than A, better to B)
â Tang Ho
3 hours ago
yes, "èÂÂå ¶" should be translated as "rather than"
â æ°´å··åÂÂè »
40 mins ago
So it seems Ã¥ÂÂå ¶ can be applied much broadly! So basically èÂÂå ¶ is only for cases like é»Â大人èÂÂ堶太太ï¼Â
â Ludi
5 hours ago
So it seems Ã¥ÂÂå ¶ can be applied much broadly! So basically èÂÂå ¶ is only for cases like é»Â大人èÂÂ堶太太ï¼Â
â Ludi
5 hours ago
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@Ludi, I think so. èÂÂå ¶ is used less than Ã¥ÂÂå ¶ from my experience. Maybe, it's a different case for people from other regions. For é»ÂæÂÂ人èÂÂ堶太太, we usually just say: é»ÂæÂÂ人åÂÂä»ÂçÂÂ太太.
â dan
4 hours ago
@Ludi, I think so. èÂÂå ¶ is used less than Ã¥ÂÂå ¶ from my experience. Maybe, it's a different case for people from other regions. For é»ÂæÂÂ人èÂÂ堶太太, we usually just say: é»ÂæÂÂ人åÂÂä»ÂçÂÂ太太.
â dan
4 hours ago
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èÂÂå ¶ cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/words/1885 has other meaning in different context, when it's placement is different : rather than... / èÂÂå ¶ A ä¸Â妠B (rather than A, better to B)
â Tang Ho
3 hours ago
èÂÂå ¶ cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/words/1885 has other meaning in different context, when it's placement is different : rather than... / èÂÂå ¶ A ä¸Â妠B (rather than A, better to B)
â Tang Ho
3 hours ago
yes, "èÂÂå ¶" should be translated as "rather than"
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yes, "èÂÂå ¶" should be translated as "rather than"
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"èÂÂå ¶" ought to be translated as "rather than".
this term was used since classical chinese times, together with "ä¸Âå¦Â", "ä¸ÂèÂÂ¥", "寧" or "寧å¯". it's usage in modern vernacular Chinese should be similar.
i don't think that "èÂÂå ¶" means "and it's / one's".
http://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/cgi-bin/cbdic/gsweb.cgi?o=dcbdic&searchid=Z00000163825
about some of your sentences:
å¾Â該æ¥起å¨æ¤屠ä½ÂèÂÂå¸æ¸
èª該æ¥起å¨æ¤çÂÂå¸
"çÂÂå¸" - å± ç & å¸ç¿Â
該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³Â
"æ¿治æ¹æ³Â", imo, is odd, i would prefer "æ¿å¶" or "æ¿治å¶度" (political system)
btw, "該ç Â究" is also odd, does it mean "such research"?
è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人åÂÂ堶課ç¨Â
è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂéÂÂé¦ÂÃ¥ÂÂ堶課ç¨Â
http://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/cgi-bin/cbdic/gsweb.cgi?ccd=RvYdcM&o=e0&sec=sec1&op=v&view=1-1
i hate "çÂÂ".
Many thanks! 該 was supposed to mean æÂÂ該ãÂÂI cut out a lot of characters, so that I can write the entire thing in under 5 minutes. The teachers sentence was: è¡é©說ï¼Âä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂä»Â麼é½æ²ÂæÂÂ西æ¹好ï¼ÂæÂÂ以ä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂä¸Âå®Âä¸Âå¯以åÂÂéÂÂ樣äºÂãÂÂè¦Âå¸ç¿Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼Âä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂå¿ é Âç¨ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¿治çÂÂ辦æ³Âï¼Âå çºï¼Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¿治çÂÂ辦æ³ÂæÂÂ好ï¼ÂMy attempt of a summary in written Chinese was: ä»ÂèªÂçºä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¹é¢é½ä¸Âå¦Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼Â該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ
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26 mins ago
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@ludi, i would try something like: è¡é©èªÂçºä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¯Âä¸Âä¸Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼ÂæÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶å¸ç¿Âï¼Âç Â究堶æ¿å¶ :)
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"èÂÂå ¶" ought to be translated as "rather than".
this term was used since classical chinese times, together with "ä¸Âå¦Â", "ä¸ÂèÂÂ¥", "寧" or "寧å¯". it's usage in modern vernacular Chinese should be similar.
i don't think that "èÂÂå ¶" means "and it's / one's".
http://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/cgi-bin/cbdic/gsweb.cgi?o=dcbdic&searchid=Z00000163825
about some of your sentences:
å¾Â該æ¥起å¨æ¤屠ä½ÂèÂÂå¸æ¸
èª該æ¥起å¨æ¤çÂÂå¸
"çÂÂå¸" - å± ç & å¸ç¿Â
該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³Â
"æ¿治æ¹æ³Â", imo, is odd, i would prefer "æ¿å¶" or "æ¿治å¶度" (political system)
btw, "該ç Â究" is also odd, does it mean "such research"?
è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人åÂÂ堶課ç¨Â
è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂéÂÂé¦ÂÃ¥ÂÂ堶課ç¨Â
http://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/cgi-bin/cbdic/gsweb.cgi?ccd=RvYdcM&o=e0&sec=sec1&op=v&view=1-1
i hate "çÂÂ".
Many thanks! 該 was supposed to mean æÂÂ該ãÂÂI cut out a lot of characters, so that I can write the entire thing in under 5 minutes. The teachers sentence was: è¡é©說ï¼Âä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂä»Â麼é½æ²ÂæÂÂ西æ¹好ï¼ÂæÂÂ以ä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂä¸Âå®Âä¸Âå¯以åÂÂéÂÂ樣äºÂãÂÂè¦Âå¸ç¿Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼Âä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂå¿ é Âç¨ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¿治çÂÂ辦æ³Âï¼Âå çºï¼Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¿治çÂÂ辦æ³ÂæÂÂ好ï¼ÂMy attempt of a summary in written Chinese was: ä»ÂèªÂçºä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¹é¢é½ä¸Âå¦Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼Â該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ
â Ludi
26 mins ago
1
@ludi, i would try something like: è¡é©èªÂçºä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¯Âä¸Âä¸Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼ÂæÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶å¸ç¿Âï¼Âç Â究堶æ¿å¶ :)
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15 mins ago
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up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
"èÂÂå ¶" ought to be translated as "rather than".
this term was used since classical chinese times, together with "ä¸Âå¦Â", "ä¸ÂèÂÂ¥", "寧" or "寧å¯". it's usage in modern vernacular Chinese should be similar.
i don't think that "èÂÂå ¶" means "and it's / one's".
http://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/cgi-bin/cbdic/gsweb.cgi?o=dcbdic&searchid=Z00000163825
about some of your sentences:
å¾Â該æ¥起å¨æ¤屠ä½ÂèÂÂå¸æ¸
èª該æ¥起å¨æ¤çÂÂå¸
"çÂÂå¸" - å± ç & å¸ç¿Â
該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³Â
"æ¿治æ¹æ³Â", imo, is odd, i would prefer "æ¿å¶" or "æ¿治å¶度" (political system)
btw, "該ç Â究" is also odd, does it mean "such research"?
è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人åÂÂ堶課ç¨Â
è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂéÂÂé¦ÂÃ¥ÂÂ堶課ç¨Â
http://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/cgi-bin/cbdic/gsweb.cgi?ccd=RvYdcM&o=e0&sec=sec1&op=v&view=1-1
i hate "çÂÂ".
"èÂÂå ¶" ought to be translated as "rather than".
this term was used since classical chinese times, together with "ä¸Âå¦Â", "ä¸ÂèÂÂ¥", "寧" or "寧å¯". it's usage in modern vernacular Chinese should be similar.
i don't think that "èÂÂå ¶" means "and it's / one's".
http://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/cgi-bin/cbdic/gsweb.cgi?o=dcbdic&searchid=Z00000163825
about some of your sentences:
å¾Â該æ¥起å¨æ¤屠ä½ÂèÂÂå¸æ¸
èª該æ¥起å¨æ¤çÂÂå¸
"çÂÂå¸" - å± ç & å¸ç¿Â
該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³Â
"æ¿治æ¹æ³Â", imo, is odd, i would prefer "æ¿å¶" or "æ¿治å¶度" (political system)
btw, "該ç Â究" is also odd, does it mean "such research"?
è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂçÂÂ帶é Â人åÂÂ堶課ç¨Â
è¾Âé´»éÂÂä¸ÂèªÂå¯è¡é©éÂÂä½Âæ°æÂÂÃ¥ÂÂéÂÂé¦ÂÃ¥ÂÂ堶課ç¨Â
http://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/cgi-bin/cbdic/gsweb.cgi?ccd=RvYdcM&o=e0&sec=sec1&op=v&view=1-1
i hate "çÂÂ".
answered 40 mins ago
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Many thanks! 該 was supposed to mean æÂÂ該ãÂÂI cut out a lot of characters, so that I can write the entire thing in under 5 minutes. The teachers sentence was: è¡é©說ï¼Âä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂä»Â麼é½æ²ÂæÂÂ西æ¹好ï¼ÂæÂÂ以ä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂä¸Âå®Âä¸Âå¯以åÂÂéÂÂ樣äºÂãÂÂè¦Âå¸ç¿Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼Âä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂå¿ é Âç¨ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¿治çÂÂ辦æ³Âï¼Âå çºï¼Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¿治çÂÂ辦æ³ÂæÂÂ好ï¼ÂMy attempt of a summary in written Chinese was: ä»ÂèªÂçºä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¹é¢é½ä¸Âå¦Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼Â該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ
â Ludi
26 mins ago
1
@ludi, i would try something like: è¡é©èªÂçºä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¯Âä¸Âä¸Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼ÂæÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶å¸ç¿Âï¼Âç Â究堶æ¿å¶ :)
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15 mins ago
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Many thanks! 該 was supposed to mean æÂÂ該ãÂÂI cut out a lot of characters, so that I can write the entire thing in under 5 minutes. The teachers sentence was: è¡é©說ï¼Âä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂä»Â麼é½æ²ÂæÂÂ西æ¹好ï¼ÂæÂÂ以ä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂä¸Âå®Âä¸Âå¯以åÂÂéÂÂ樣äºÂãÂÂè¦Âå¸ç¿Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼Âä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂå¿ é Âç¨ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¿治çÂÂ辦æ³Âï¼Âå çºï¼Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¿治çÂÂ辦æ³ÂæÂÂ好ï¼ÂMy attempt of a summary in written Chinese was: ä»ÂèªÂçºä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¹é¢é½ä¸Âå¦Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼Â該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ
â Ludi
26 mins ago
1
@ludi, i would try something like: è¡é©èªÂçºä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¯Âä¸Âä¸Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼ÂæÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶å¸ç¿Âï¼Âç Â究堶æ¿å¶ :)
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15 mins ago
Many thanks! 該 was supposed to mean æÂÂ該ãÂÂI cut out a lot of characters, so that I can write the entire thing in under 5 minutes. The teachers sentence was: è¡é©說ï¼Âä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂä»Â麼é½æ²ÂæÂÂ西æ¹好ï¼ÂæÂÂ以ä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂä¸Âå®Âä¸Âå¯以åÂÂéÂÂ樣äºÂãÂÂè¦Âå¸ç¿Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼Âä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂå¿ é Âç¨ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¿治çÂÂ辦æ³Âï¼Âå çºï¼Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¿治çÂÂ辦æ³ÂæÂÂ好ï¼ÂMy attempt of a summary in written Chinese was: ä»ÂèªÂçºä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¹é¢é½ä¸Âå¦Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼Â該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ
â Ludi
26 mins ago
Many thanks! 該 was supposed to mean æÂÂ該ãÂÂI cut out a lot of characters, so that I can write the entire thing in under 5 minutes. The teachers sentence was: è¡é©說ï¼Âä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂä»Â麼é½æ²ÂæÂÂ西æ¹好ï¼ÂæÂÂ以ä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂä¸Âå®Âä¸Âå¯以åÂÂéÂÂ樣äºÂãÂÂè¦Âå¸ç¿Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼Âä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂå¿ é Âç¨ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¿治çÂÂ辦æ³Âï¼Âå çºï¼Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¿治çÂÂ辦æ³ÂæÂÂ好ï¼ÂMy attempt of a summary in written Chinese was: ä»ÂèªÂçºä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¹é¢é½ä¸Âå¦Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼Â該ç Â究ç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶æ¿治æ¹æ³ÂãÂÂ
â Ludi
26 mins ago
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@ludi, i would try something like: è¡é©èªÂçºä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¯Âä¸Âä¸Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼ÂæÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶å¸ç¿Âï¼Âç Â究堶æ¿å¶ :)
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15 mins ago
@ludi, i would try something like: è¡é©èªÂçºä¸ÂÃ¥ÂÂæ¯Âä¸Âä¸Âç¾ÂÃ¥ÂÂï¼ÂæÂÂÃ¥ÂÂå ¶å¸ç¿Âï¼Âç Â究堶æ¿å¶ :)
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