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How can I let my boss know I currently put out the effort for a different job title/salary level?
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I work my ass off at work and my boss sees I'm driven and appreciates it. How can I ask for a title that will get me from 60k a year to 100k a year (AVP, Principal Systems Architect, ect) while also letting him know I would like to be closer to 100k than 70k?
Too Long version: My company is going through a phase of massive growth. We've built multiple buildings and just purchased two blocks downtown to build a high rise with retail areas and such in it to lease out because we've already grown too big for the building we build 3 years ago. When I was hired we had 200 employees, at the last company meeting they said we have 286 now.
I previously was working in a brokerage firm in Boston and attained the AVP title (no matter what anyone says, corporate titles mean something in finance. Just because "everyone" has one doesn't mean your pay won't go up substantially once you get it). I was making over 100k a year including various bonuses. My pay now is closer to 60k which I expected moving to the south, but I'm trying to get back to where I was in regards to salary.
I just got hired 13 months ago. I'm in IT and right now we are very under staffed, but our new CIO has plans to actually build out the org chart and bring in the PMO/BA groups under IT, ect. My manager just got promoted to VP and reports directly to the CIO. My manager was hired the same day I was.
I was hired as basically an application operations support engineer but I do zero of the things that were in my position description. I build new systems, support the entire suite of applications across the company, and now I've been given change management/release management duties. I'm automating workflows for our finance department and hitting the arbitrary and capricious deadlines they set even if it means doing my day to day work on the weekends. My boss knows how hard I work and has expressed how he sees I have ambition.
I feel that I am doing the work of a director at my last firm and my VP (boss) knows I'm rocking it and has mentioned that any time a position opens up they will offer it to me first to see if I'm interested. I actually really like my job and I like working on the weekends and putting in my time because I feel like it is helping me climb the ladder, and I don't have kids yet so I might as well do what I can now because they will be my focus when I have them.
I would like to bring up to my boss that I would like the title of AVP of IT (he is the VP of IT) and the salary that goes along with it (100-110k/yr from what I've seen online). I do all the things AVPs do, not only in my previous company, but from what I read online. I document implement and document processes, I create documentation on systems as I build them or as I support them (when I started we had zero documentation), I've build several automations . But I would even be willing to take a title like Principal System Architect or something similar.
How can I bring this up to my boss without sounding like I am going to leave if I don't get xyz salary or title? I just don't want to get fired for being too forward. I also feel like I've read so many things that say don't talk about salary with your boss because s/he'll just think you're in it for the money, but I would love to let him know at least what I would like, so he doesn't go work to get approval for 10k+ more a year and what I want is 20-30k. I would rather have the conversation to set both of our expectations but I don't know how to do it.
Thanks for reading this.
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I work my ass off at work and my boss sees I'm driven and appreciates it. How can I ask for a title that will get me from 60k a year to 100k a year (AVP, Principal Systems Architect, ect) while also letting him know I would like to be closer to 100k than 70k?
Too Long version: My company is going through a phase of massive growth. We've built multiple buildings and just purchased two blocks downtown to build a high rise with retail areas and such in it to lease out because we've already grown too big for the building we build 3 years ago. When I was hired we had 200 employees, at the last company meeting they said we have 286 now.
I previously was working in a brokerage firm in Boston and attained the AVP title (no matter what anyone says, corporate titles mean something in finance. Just because "everyone" has one doesn't mean your pay won't go up substantially once you get it). I was making over 100k a year including various bonuses. My pay now is closer to 60k which I expected moving to the south, but I'm trying to get back to where I was in regards to salary.
I just got hired 13 months ago. I'm in IT and right now we are very under staffed, but our new CIO has plans to actually build out the org chart and bring in the PMO/BA groups under IT, ect. My manager just got promoted to VP and reports directly to the CIO. My manager was hired the same day I was.
I was hired as basically an application operations support engineer but I do zero of the things that were in my position description. I build new systems, support the entire suite of applications across the company, and now I've been given change management/release management duties. I'm automating workflows for our finance department and hitting the arbitrary and capricious deadlines they set even if it means doing my day to day work on the weekends. My boss knows how hard I work and has expressed how he sees I have ambition.
I feel that I am doing the work of a director at my last firm and my VP (boss) knows I'm rocking it and has mentioned that any time a position opens up they will offer it to me first to see if I'm interested. I actually really like my job and I like working on the weekends and putting in my time because I feel like it is helping me climb the ladder, and I don't have kids yet so I might as well do what I can now because they will be my focus when I have them.
I would like to bring up to my boss that I would like the title of AVP of IT (he is the VP of IT) and the salary that goes along with it (100-110k/yr from what I've seen online). I do all the things AVPs do, not only in my previous company, but from what I read online. I document implement and document processes, I create documentation on systems as I build them or as I support them (when I started we had zero documentation), I've build several automations . But I would even be willing to take a title like Principal System Architect or something similar.
How can I bring this up to my boss without sounding like I am going to leave if I don't get xyz salary or title? I just don't want to get fired for being too forward. I also feel like I've read so many things that say don't talk about salary with your boss because s/he'll just think you're in it for the money, but I would love to let him know at least what I would like, so he doesn't go work to get approval for 10k+ more a year and what I want is 20-30k. I would rather have the conversation to set both of our expectations but I don't know how to do it.
Thanks for reading this.
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I work my ass off at work and my boss sees I'm driven and appreciates it. How can I ask for a title that will get me from 60k a year to 100k a year (AVP, Principal Systems Architect, ect) while also letting him know I would like to be closer to 100k than 70k?
Too Long version: My company is going through a phase of massive growth. We've built multiple buildings and just purchased two blocks downtown to build a high rise with retail areas and such in it to lease out because we've already grown too big for the building we build 3 years ago. When I was hired we had 200 employees, at the last company meeting they said we have 286 now.
I previously was working in a brokerage firm in Boston and attained the AVP title (no matter what anyone says, corporate titles mean something in finance. Just because "everyone" has one doesn't mean your pay won't go up substantially once you get it). I was making over 100k a year including various bonuses. My pay now is closer to 60k which I expected moving to the south, but I'm trying to get back to where I was in regards to salary.
I just got hired 13 months ago. I'm in IT and right now we are very under staffed, but our new CIO has plans to actually build out the org chart and bring in the PMO/BA groups under IT, ect. My manager just got promoted to VP and reports directly to the CIO. My manager was hired the same day I was.
I was hired as basically an application operations support engineer but I do zero of the things that were in my position description. I build new systems, support the entire suite of applications across the company, and now I've been given change management/release management duties. I'm automating workflows for our finance department and hitting the arbitrary and capricious deadlines they set even if it means doing my day to day work on the weekends. My boss knows how hard I work and has expressed how he sees I have ambition.
I feel that I am doing the work of a director at my last firm and my VP (boss) knows I'm rocking it and has mentioned that any time a position opens up they will offer it to me first to see if I'm interested. I actually really like my job and I like working on the weekends and putting in my time because I feel like it is helping me climb the ladder, and I don't have kids yet so I might as well do what I can now because they will be my focus when I have them.
I would like to bring up to my boss that I would like the title of AVP of IT (he is the VP of IT) and the salary that goes along with it (100-110k/yr from what I've seen online). I do all the things AVPs do, not only in my previous company, but from what I read online. I document implement and document processes, I create documentation on systems as I build them or as I support them (when I started we had zero documentation), I've build several automations . But I would even be willing to take a title like Principal System Architect or something similar.
How can I bring this up to my boss without sounding like I am going to leave if I don't get xyz salary or title? I just don't want to get fired for being too forward. I also feel like I've read so many things that say don't talk about salary with your boss because s/he'll just think you're in it for the money, but I would love to let him know at least what I would like, so he doesn't go work to get approval for 10k+ more a year and what I want is 20-30k. I would rather have the conversation to set both of our expectations but I don't know how to do it.
Thanks for reading this.
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tl;dr
I work my ass off at work and my boss sees I'm driven and appreciates it. How can I ask for a title that will get me from 60k a year to 100k a year (AVP, Principal Systems Architect, ect) while also letting him know I would like to be closer to 100k than 70k?
Too Long version: My company is going through a phase of massive growth. We've built multiple buildings and just purchased two blocks downtown to build a high rise with retail areas and such in it to lease out because we've already grown too big for the building we build 3 years ago. When I was hired we had 200 employees, at the last company meeting they said we have 286 now.
I previously was working in a brokerage firm in Boston and attained the AVP title (no matter what anyone says, corporate titles mean something in finance. Just because "everyone" has one doesn't mean your pay won't go up substantially once you get it). I was making over 100k a year including various bonuses. My pay now is closer to 60k which I expected moving to the south, but I'm trying to get back to where I was in regards to salary.
I just got hired 13 months ago. I'm in IT and right now we are very under staffed, but our new CIO has plans to actually build out the org chart and bring in the PMO/BA groups under IT, ect. My manager just got promoted to VP and reports directly to the CIO. My manager was hired the same day I was.
I was hired as basically an application operations support engineer but I do zero of the things that were in my position description. I build new systems, support the entire suite of applications across the company, and now I've been given change management/release management duties. I'm automating workflows for our finance department and hitting the arbitrary and capricious deadlines they set even if it means doing my day to day work on the weekends. My boss knows how hard I work and has expressed how he sees I have ambition.
I feel that I am doing the work of a director at my last firm and my VP (boss) knows I'm rocking it and has mentioned that any time a position opens up they will offer it to me first to see if I'm interested. I actually really like my job and I like working on the weekends and putting in my time because I feel like it is helping me climb the ladder, and I don't have kids yet so I might as well do what I can now because they will be my focus when I have them.
I would like to bring up to my boss that I would like the title of AVP of IT (he is the VP of IT) and the salary that goes along with it (100-110k/yr from what I've seen online). I do all the things AVPs do, not only in my previous company, but from what I read online. I document implement and document processes, I create documentation on systems as I build them or as I support them (when I started we had zero documentation), I've build several automations . But I would even be willing to take a title like Principal System Architect or something similar.
How can I bring this up to my boss without sounding like I am going to leave if I don't get xyz salary or title? I just don't want to get fired for being too forward. I also feel like I've read so many things that say don't talk about salary with your boss because s/he'll just think you're in it for the money, but I would love to let him know at least what I would like, so he doesn't go work to get approval for 10k+ more a year and what I want is 20-30k. I would rather have the conversation to set both of our expectations but I don't know how to do it.
Thanks for reading this.
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