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I am a teacher assistant for a big course and I am expected to conduct weekly quizzes. Last week, my bag containing a week's worth of quizzes got stolen. My question is what should I tell my students and is there a fair way to make it up to them?
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I am a teacher assistant for a big course and I am expected to conduct weekly quizzes. Last week, my bag containing a week's worth of quizzes got stolen. My question is what should I tell my students and is there a fair way to make it up to them?
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I am a teacher assistant for a big course and I am expected to conduct weekly quizzes. Last week, my bag containing a week's worth of quizzes got stolen. My question is what should I tell my students and is there a fair way to make it up to them?
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I am a teacher assistant for a big course and I am expected to conduct weekly quizzes. Last week, my bag containing a week's worth of quizzes got stolen. My question is what should I tell my students and is there a fair way to make it up to them?
ethics exams
ethics exams
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Report it to the police. Report it to the department.
You don't have anything that requires making up to the students. Of course you should be fair to them and not let this hurt them (e.g., no grade for this quiz, but allow students to take an optional alternative assignment to take its place).
answered 1 hour ago
Austin Henley
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Student time is not valueless. A difficult quiz to a large class can amount to 100+ hours loss. At the very least they need an apology.
– famargar
6 mins ago
@famargar just because they didn’t get a grade doesn’t make it valueless. They hopefully learned a lot while preparing for it. You aren’t obligated to provide a grade for everything (though feedback is certainly helpful when possible).
– Austin Henley
3 mins ago
I agree with first part and strongly disagree with the other: what is a quiz without a grade? A graded quiz is a mutual agreement that the student puts the completion work and the teacher the grading work.
– famargar
1 min ago
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Ups - that doesn't sound good. You should definitely report it to your administration and maybe there are established procedures for such cases.
Furthermore, you should not re-use any of the questions in this test in this or later courses.
One could assume, that one of the students stole the bag to avoid a bad grade, but I would recommend to assume some random person stole it - it helps in keeping a good relationship to your students.
To come to your relevant question: Is there a fair way to make it up to them? - Maybe not. If you just don't count the test, a good result of student A would not count towards the final grade. On the other hand, if you force them to repeat the test, student A might perform worse then before, and student B might perform better - which would be unfair as well.
I would do the following: Tell the students about the situation. Tell them, if the bag returns (maybe the thief throws the exams away since they are worthless), wou will return the results as soon as possible. Otherwise, don't include the test in the final grade.
If you want to give a bonus: Offer them that they may repeat the test if they want, but if they don't, it just does not count.
answered 1 hour ago
OBu
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As an undergraduate I had a professor who kept a rather messy office, with papers piled everywhere. One day he came into lecture looking quite embarrassed. It was a day to turn back the graded homework from the previous week.
Well, it turns out that his desk was so messy that the only 'open' place to put the pile of graded homework to give back to us was to stack it on the edge of his office trash can. You can guess what happened - yup, the helpful janitor folk came by and took out the trash, including the stack of homework.
He took the blame (and a little ribbing), and gave us all an A for the assignment. He also cleaned up his office a bit...
In your case, it isn't your fault, but I would just punt on the quiz and give everyone either an A, or don't count it.
answered 33 mins ago
Jon Custer
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Not had a bag stolen, but lost a quiz (online system), best thing is tell the students directly that it happened and you will deal with the grades appropriately.
What is "appropriate" may need to be checked with the dept. head etc but once the students know you are on the case and are fair to all, it works out fine...
answered 40 mins ago
Solar Mike
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Report it to the department. Apologise to the students.
You don’t do much harm to collect one less data point on their score - unless there is a very small number of quizzes - all it does is to reduce the variability of the data.
In other words, a bad student can make one or two very good quizzes, not ten. Say you have ten quizzes. If you loose one the precision of your algorithm is reduced by sqrt(10/9) that is almost nothing.
The students will not understand this and will feel cheated because their 2-hour effort vanished in the wind. All you can do is to apologise.
answered 35 mins ago
famargar
2,3011423
their 2-hour effort --- Since these are WEEKLY quizzes, I would imagine the effort is more along the lines of 10 minutes, unless you're counting preparation time, in which case your assessment of how long students spend preparing for a short weekly quiz is longer by a factor of 3 or 4 than has been my experience.
– Dave L Renfro
30 mins ago
The size of apologies should be proportional to the time they put into it (and that does not include preparation). Mine were between one and two hours
– famargar
13 mins ago
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5 Answers
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oldest
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5 Answers
5
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
6
down vote
Report it to the police. Report it to the department.
You don't have anything that requires making up to the students. Of course you should be fair to them and not let this hurt them (e.g., no grade for this quiz, but allow students to take an optional alternative assignment to take its place).
answered 1 hour ago
Austin Henley
15.4k84990
Student time is not valueless. A difficult quiz to a large class can amount to 100+ hours loss. At the very least they need an apology.
– famargar
6 mins ago
@famargar just because they didn’t get a grade doesn’t make it valueless. They hopefully learned a lot while preparing for it. You aren’t obligated to provide a grade for everything (though feedback is certainly helpful when possible).
– Austin Henley
3 mins ago
I agree with first part and strongly disagree with the other: what is a quiz without a grade? A graded quiz is a mutual agreement that the student puts the completion work and the teacher the grading work.
– famargar
1 min ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
6
down vote
Report it to the police. Report it to the department.
You don't have anything that requires making up to the students. Of course you should be fair to them and not let this hurt them (e.g., no grade for this quiz, but allow students to take an optional alternative assignment to take its place).
answered 1 hour ago
Austin Henley
15.4k84990
Student time is not valueless. A difficult quiz to a large class can amount to 100+ hours loss. At the very least they need an apology.
– famargar
6 mins ago
@famargar just because they didn’t get a grade doesn’t make it valueless. They hopefully learned a lot while preparing for it. You aren’t obligated to provide a grade for everything (though feedback is certainly helpful when possible).
– Austin Henley
3 mins ago
I agree with first part and strongly disagree with the other: what is a quiz without a grade? A graded quiz is a mutual agreement that the student puts the completion work and the teacher the grading work.
– famargar
1 min ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
6
down vote
up vote
6
down vote
Report it to the police. Report it to the department.
You don't have anything that requires making up to the students. Of course you should be fair to them and not let this hurt them (e.g., no grade for this quiz, but allow students to take an optional alternative assignment to take its place).
answered 1 hour ago
Austin Henley
15.4k84990
Report it to the police. Report it to the department.
You don't have anything that requires making up to the students. Of course you should be fair to them and not let this hurt them (e.g., no grade for this quiz, but allow students to take an optional alternative assignment to take its place).
answered 1 hour ago
Austin Henley
15.4k84990
answered 1 hour ago
Austin Henley
15.4k84990
answered 1 hour ago
Austin Henley
15.4k84990
answered 1 hour ago
Austin Henley
15.4k84990
15.4k84990
Student time is not valueless. A difficult quiz to a large class can amount to 100+ hours loss. At the very least they need an apology.
– famargar
6 mins ago
@famargar just because they didn’t get a grade doesn’t make it valueless. They hopefully learned a lot while preparing for it. You aren’t obligated to provide a grade for everything (though feedback is certainly helpful when possible).
– Austin Henley
3 mins ago
I agree with first part and strongly disagree with the other: what is a quiz without a grade? A graded quiz is a mutual agreement that the student puts the completion work and the teacher the grading work.
– famargar
1 min ago
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Student time is not valueless. A difficult quiz to a large class can amount to 100+ hours loss. At the very least they need an apology.
– famargar
6 mins ago
@famargar just because they didn’t get a grade doesn’t make it valueless. They hopefully learned a lot while preparing for it. You aren’t obligated to provide a grade for everything (though feedback is certainly helpful when possible).
– Austin Henley
3 mins ago
I agree with first part and strongly disagree with the other: what is a quiz without a grade? A graded quiz is a mutual agreement that the student puts the completion work and the teacher the grading work.
– famargar
1 min ago
Student time is not valueless. A difficult quiz to a large class can amount to 100+ hours loss. At the very least they need an apology.
– famargar
6 mins ago
Student time is not valueless. A difficult quiz to a large class can amount to 100+ hours loss. At the very least they need an apology.
– famargar
6 mins ago
@famargar just because they didn’t get a grade doesn’t make it valueless. They hopefully learned a lot while preparing for it. You aren’t obligated to provide a grade for everything (though feedback is certainly helpful when possible).
– Austin Henley
3 mins ago
@famargar just because they didn’t get a grade doesn’t make it valueless. They hopefully learned a lot while preparing for it. You aren’t obligated to provide a grade for everything (though feedback is certainly helpful when possible).
– Austin Henley
3 mins ago
I agree with first part and strongly disagree with the other: what is a quiz without a grade? A graded quiz is a mutual agreement that the student puts the completion work and the teacher the grading work.
– famargar
1 min ago
I agree with first part and strongly disagree with the other: what is a quiz without a grade? A graded quiz is a mutual agreement that the student puts the completion work and the teacher the grading work.
– famargar
1 min ago
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up vote
4
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Ups - that doesn't sound good. You should definitely report it to your administration and maybe there are established procedures for such cases.
Furthermore, you should not re-use any of the questions in this test in this or later courses.
One could assume, that one of the students stole the bag to avoid a bad grade, but I would recommend to assume some random person stole it - it helps in keeping a good relationship to your students.
To come to your relevant question: Is there a fair way to make it up to them? - Maybe not. If you just don't count the test, a good result of student A would not count towards the final grade. On the other hand, if you force them to repeat the test, student A might perform worse then before, and student B might perform better - which would be unfair as well.
I would do the following: Tell the students about the situation. Tell them, if the bag returns (maybe the thief throws the exams away since they are worthless), wou will return the results as soon as possible. Otherwise, don't include the test in the final grade.
If you want to give a bonus: Offer them that they may repeat the test if they want, but if they don't, it just does not count.
answered 1 hour ago
OBu
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up vote
4
down vote
Ups - that doesn't sound good. You should definitely report it to your administration and maybe there are established procedures for such cases.
Furthermore, you should not re-use any of the questions in this test in this or later courses.
One could assume, that one of the students stole the bag to avoid a bad grade, but I would recommend to assume some random person stole it - it helps in keeping a good relationship to your students.
To come to your relevant question: Is there a fair way to make it up to them? - Maybe not. If you just don't count the test, a good result of student A would not count towards the final grade. On the other hand, if you force them to repeat the test, student A might perform worse then before, and student B might perform better - which would be unfair as well.
I would do the following: Tell the students about the situation. Tell them, if the bag returns (maybe the thief throws the exams away since they are worthless), wou will return the results as soon as possible. Otherwise, don't include the test in the final grade.
If you want to give a bonus: Offer them that they may repeat the test if they want, but if they don't, it just does not count.
answered 1 hour ago
OBu
7,95921940
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
up vote
4
down vote
Ups - that doesn't sound good. You should definitely report it to your administration and maybe there are established procedures for such cases.
Furthermore, you should not re-use any of the questions in this test in this or later courses.
One could assume, that one of the students stole the bag to avoid a bad grade, but I would recommend to assume some random person stole it - it helps in keeping a good relationship to your students.
To come to your relevant question: Is there a fair way to make it up to them? - Maybe not. If you just don't count the test, a good result of student A would not count towards the final grade. On the other hand, if you force them to repeat the test, student A might perform worse then before, and student B might perform better - which would be unfair as well.
I would do the following: Tell the students about the situation. Tell them, if the bag returns (maybe the thief throws the exams away since they are worthless), wou will return the results as soon as possible. Otherwise, don't include the test in the final grade.
If you want to give a bonus: Offer them that they may repeat the test if they want, but if they don't, it just does not count.
answered 1 hour ago
OBu
7,95921940
Ups - that doesn't sound good. You should definitely report it to your administration and maybe there are established procedures for such cases.
Furthermore, you should not re-use any of the questions in this test in this or later courses.
One could assume, that one of the students stole the bag to avoid a bad grade, but I would recommend to assume some random person stole it - it helps in keeping a good relationship to your students.
To come to your relevant question: Is there a fair way to make it up to them? - Maybe not. If you just don't count the test, a good result of student A would not count towards the final grade. On the other hand, if you force them to repeat the test, student A might perform worse then before, and student B might perform better - which would be unfair as well.
I would do the following: Tell the students about the situation. Tell them, if the bag returns (maybe the thief throws the exams away since they are worthless), wou will return the results as soon as possible. Otherwise, don't include the test in the final grade.
If you want to give a bonus: Offer them that they may repeat the test if they want, but if they don't, it just does not count.
answered 1 hour ago
OBu
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answered 1 hour ago
OBu
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answered 1 hour ago
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As an undergraduate I had a professor who kept a rather messy office, with papers piled everywhere. One day he came into lecture looking quite embarrassed. It was a day to turn back the graded homework from the previous week.
Well, it turns out that his desk was so messy that the only 'open' place to put the pile of graded homework to give back to us was to stack it on the edge of his office trash can. You can guess what happened - yup, the helpful janitor folk came by and took out the trash, including the stack of homework.
He took the blame (and a little ribbing), and gave us all an A for the assignment. He also cleaned up his office a bit...
In your case, it isn't your fault, but I would just punt on the quiz and give everyone either an A, or don't count it.
answered 33 mins ago
Jon Custer
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up vote
2
down vote
As an undergraduate I had a professor who kept a rather messy office, with papers piled everywhere. One day he came into lecture looking quite embarrassed. It was a day to turn back the graded homework from the previous week.
Well, it turns out that his desk was so messy that the only 'open' place to put the pile of graded homework to give back to us was to stack it on the edge of his office trash can. You can guess what happened - yup, the helpful janitor folk came by and took out the trash, including the stack of homework.
He took the blame (and a little ribbing), and gave us all an A for the assignment. He also cleaned up his office a bit...
In your case, it isn't your fault, but I would just punt on the quiz and give everyone either an A, or don't count it.
answered 33 mins ago
Jon Custer
2,70621121
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
As an undergraduate I had a professor who kept a rather messy office, with papers piled everywhere. One day he came into lecture looking quite embarrassed. It was a day to turn back the graded homework from the previous week.
Well, it turns out that his desk was so messy that the only 'open' place to put the pile of graded homework to give back to us was to stack it on the edge of his office trash can. You can guess what happened - yup, the helpful janitor folk came by and took out the trash, including the stack of homework.
He took the blame (and a little ribbing), and gave us all an A for the assignment. He also cleaned up his office a bit...
In your case, it isn't your fault, but I would just punt on the quiz and give everyone either an A, or don't count it.
answered 33 mins ago
Jon Custer
2,70621121
As an undergraduate I had a professor who kept a rather messy office, with papers piled everywhere. One day he came into lecture looking quite embarrassed. It was a day to turn back the graded homework from the previous week.
Well, it turns out that his desk was so messy that the only 'open' place to put the pile of graded homework to give back to us was to stack it on the edge of his office trash can. You can guess what happened - yup, the helpful janitor folk came by and took out the trash, including the stack of homework.
He took the blame (and a little ribbing), and gave us all an A for the assignment. He also cleaned up his office a bit...
In your case, it isn't your fault, but I would just punt on the quiz and give everyone either an A, or don't count it.
answered 33 mins ago
Jon Custer
2,70621121
answered 33 mins ago
Jon Custer
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answered 33 mins ago
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Not had a bag stolen, but lost a quiz (online system), best thing is tell the students directly that it happened and you will deal with the grades appropriately.
What is "appropriate" may need to be checked with the dept. head etc but once the students know you are on the case and are fair to all, it works out fine...
answered 40 mins ago
Solar Mike
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up vote
1
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Not had a bag stolen, but lost a quiz (online system), best thing is tell the students directly that it happened and you will deal with the grades appropriately.
What is "appropriate" may need to be checked with the dept. head etc but once the students know you are on the case and are fair to all, it works out fine...
answered 40 mins ago
Solar Mike
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up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
Not had a bag stolen, but lost a quiz (online system), best thing is tell the students directly that it happened and you will deal with the grades appropriately.
What is "appropriate" may need to be checked with the dept. head etc but once the students know you are on the case and are fair to all, it works out fine...
answered 40 mins ago
Solar Mike
9,28432040
Not had a bag stolen, but lost a quiz (online system), best thing is tell the students directly that it happened and you will deal with the grades appropriately.
What is "appropriate" may need to be checked with the dept. head etc but once the students know you are on the case and are fair to all, it works out fine...
answered 40 mins ago
Solar Mike
9,28432040
answered 40 mins ago
Solar Mike
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answered 40 mins ago
Solar Mike
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answered 40 mins ago
Solar Mike
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Report it to the department. Apologise to the students.
You don’t do much harm to collect one less data point on their score - unless there is a very small number of quizzes - all it does is to reduce the variability of the data.
In other words, a bad student can make one or two very good quizzes, not ten. Say you have ten quizzes. If you loose one the precision of your algorithm is reduced by sqrt(10/9) that is almost nothing.
The students will not understand this and will feel cheated because their 2-hour effort vanished in the wind. All you can do is to apologise.
answered 35 mins ago
famargar
2,3011423
their 2-hour effort --- Since these are WEEKLY quizzes, I would imagine the effort is more along the lines of 10 minutes, unless you're counting preparation time, in which case your assessment of how long students spend preparing for a short weekly quiz is longer by a factor of 3 or 4 than has been my experience.
– Dave L Renfro
30 mins ago
The size of apologies should be proportional to the time they put into it (and that does not include preparation). Mine were between one and two hours
– famargar
13 mins ago
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up vote
1
down vote
Report it to the department. Apologise to the students.
You don’t do much harm to collect one less data point on their score - unless there is a very small number of quizzes - all it does is to reduce the variability of the data.
In other words, a bad student can make one or two very good quizzes, not ten. Say you have ten quizzes. If you loose one the precision of your algorithm is reduced by sqrt(10/9) that is almost nothing.
The students will not understand this and will feel cheated because their 2-hour effort vanished in the wind. All you can do is to apologise.
answered 35 mins ago
famargar
2,3011423
their 2-hour effort --- Since these are WEEKLY quizzes, I would imagine the effort is more along the lines of 10 minutes, unless you're counting preparation time, in which case your assessment of how long students spend preparing for a short weekly quiz is longer by a factor of 3 or 4 than has been my experience.
– Dave L Renfro
30 mins ago
The size of apologies should be proportional to the time they put into it (and that does not include preparation). Mine were between one and two hours
– famargar
13 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
Report it to the department. Apologise to the students.
You don’t do much harm to collect one less data point on their score - unless there is a very small number of quizzes - all it does is to reduce the variability of the data.
In other words, a bad student can make one or two very good quizzes, not ten. Say you have ten quizzes. If you loose one the precision of your algorithm is reduced by sqrt(10/9) that is almost nothing.
The students will not understand this and will feel cheated because their 2-hour effort vanished in the wind. All you can do is to apologise.
answered 35 mins ago
famargar
2,3011423
Report it to the department. Apologise to the students.
You don’t do much harm to collect one less data point on their score - unless there is a very small number of quizzes - all it does is to reduce the variability of the data.
In other words, a bad student can make one or two very good quizzes, not ten. Say you have ten quizzes. If you loose one the precision of your algorithm is reduced by sqrt(10/9) that is almost nothing.
The students will not understand this and will feel cheated because their 2-hour effort vanished in the wind. All you can do is to apologise.
answered 35 mins ago
famargar
2,3011423
answered 35 mins ago
famargar
2,3011423
answered 35 mins ago
famargar
2,3011423
answered 35 mins ago
famargar
2,3011423
2,3011423
their 2-hour effort --- Since these are WEEKLY quizzes, I would imagine the effort is more along the lines of 10 minutes, unless you're counting preparation time, in which case your assessment of how long students spend preparing for a short weekly quiz is longer by a factor of 3 or 4 than has been my experience.
– Dave L Renfro
30 mins ago
The size of apologies should be proportional to the time they put into it (and that does not include preparation). Mine were between one and two hours
– famargar
13 mins ago
add a comment |Â
their 2-hour effort --- Since these are WEEKLY quizzes, I would imagine the effort is more along the lines of 10 minutes, unless you're counting preparation time, in which case your assessment of how long students spend preparing for a short weekly quiz is longer by a factor of 3 or 4 than has been my experience.
– Dave L Renfro
30 mins ago
The size of apologies should be proportional to the time they put into it (and that does not include preparation). Mine were between one and two hours
– famargar
13 mins ago
their 2-hour effort --- Since these are WEEKLY quizzes, I would imagine the effort is more along the lines of 10 minutes, unless you're counting preparation time, in which case your assessment of how long students spend preparing for a short weekly quiz is longer by a factor of 3 or 4 than has been my experience.
– Dave L Renfro
30 mins ago
their 2-hour effort --- Since these are WEEKLY quizzes, I would imagine the effort is more along the lines of 10 minutes, unless you're counting preparation time, in which case your assessment of how long students spend preparing for a short weekly quiz is longer by a factor of 3 or 4 than has been my experience.
– Dave L Renfro
30 mins ago
The size of apologies should be proportional to the time they put into it (and that does not include preparation). Mine were between one and two hours
– famargar
13 mins ago
The size of apologies should be proportional to the time they put into it (and that does not include preparation). Mine were between one and two hours
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