What is a spell slot in-lore, and how does it justify the limits on casting spells?

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Spell slots are something that we, as players, expend when we want our spellcasting PCs to cast a spell. It is a resource to limit how many powerful spells we can cast in a day. But for our characters in-game, they don't exist. So what are they?



The best way I can think of to illustrate my question is via an example involving a Kenku.



Background



I was going to ask the question "Can a (non-spellcaster) Kenku cast a Verbal-component-only spell that they have heard a spellcaster cast via Mimicry?" I knew the answer would be that they can't, but I was wondering what the in-game justification is for this.



Out-of-game, the answer is that they do not have the Spellcasting (or Pact Magic) class feature, and therefore do not have spell slots to expend to cast the spell, but that just replaced one question with another; what is a spell slot in-game? Knowing the answer to this would justify why the Kenku perfectly mimicking the Verbal component of a spell doesn't work in-game.



Comparison



There are other terms we use: HP, AC, XP; these terms do not exist in-game. My PC won't know what "HP" is. HP has an in-game description, as explained further in this question: What does HP represent?



In short, from the PHB, pg. 196:




Hit points represent a combination of physical and mental durability, the will to live, and luck.




So those are things that my PC might know about and understand; luck, the will to live, etc. They make sense in-game and are something my character could talk about.



What I've Looked Up



A Wizard's Spellcasting class feature (PHB, pg. 114) only describes the mechanics of what a spell slot is to the player (I didn't check the Spellcasting class feature for all the other classes), and the Spell Slots section (PHB, pg. 201) simply says (regarding flavour):




Manipulating the fabric of magic and channeling its energy into even a simple spell is physically and mentally taxing, and higher-level spells are even more so.




But that doesn't explain why, say, a Kenku who has learned to mimic a Wizard's spell's Verbal components couldn't cast a spell (without being a spellcaster class themselves; i.e. they have no spell slots).



Sure, it might "tax" them, but surely they'd be able to pull it off at least once that day? Or is it so taxing to even say that specific word or phrase that they wouldn't actually be able to even finish saying it "without the proper training" (e.g. being a Wizard), and thus cannot "complete" the spell? (NB: This isn't my question, it's just included to show my train of thought.)



Question



So what are spell slots in-game? What in-game "thing" do they represent? Is there an in-game justification for why a character who has spell slots can cast a spell in-game, whereas a different character without spell slots could not (even if they can satisfy the spell's components; i.e. a Kenku perfectly mimicking the Verbal component)?




If the flavour of certain spellcasting classes would influence the answer such that all classes cannot be explained by one explanation (i.e. because Warlocks have Patrons, Sorcerers have "a spark of magic within them", divine casters have gods or ideals, etc) then this question can just focus on Wizards specifically and what their spell slots mean, since a Wizard's relationship with magic (i.e. "learning") is closer to how a Kenku "learns" the Verbal component via mimicry.



Also, I'm not particularly interested in settings-specific answer, but if a specific setting would influence an answer, let's assume the Forgotten Realms (as it is the default setting of 5e).



Just to clarify: I don't think the Kenku should be able to do this (e.g. a level 1 Kenku overhears a high level Wizard cast wish, uh... no), my question is why not from an in-game/lore perspective.










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  • I was agonising over the wording of this question for over an hour; if anyone has any suggestions to improve it, I'm all ears. I want to focus on the "what is a spell slot" aspect of this question, but I know this is an X-Y question; hopefully by being up-front about that in the question, it should still be answerable, since I do want to know the answer to "Y" as well. Of course, this is all assuming Y is actually the answer to X (I might be wrong about my assumption, although currently I'm convinced that I'm not).
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    I wonder (I'm not sure either way) if it might be better to limit this question to just Wizards (i.e. a Kenku copying the casting of a Wizard spell by a Wizard)? Other classes may be easier to dismiss and sidestep the real question (Warlocks - the Kenku doesn't have a patron, Sorcerer - the Kenku doesn't have the necessary magic inside themselves, Cleric / Paladin the Kenku doesn't have the necessary devotion/ relationship to an ideal/deity)
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    To close-voters; please let me know what can be done to make this less broad, etc. I'd like to keep this open, and close votes are primarily to fix a question to a more answerable state.
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    Related Q&A about vancian magic which was D&D's original model; 5e has vestiges of it though it's not as "pure" as some previous editions. Reading them may help you rephrase or tighten the scope of your question. The (1) problem you are asking about "in re justification" and (2) the example you use, limited to a verbal component, seem to pull this question in two different directions. Pick one.
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Spell slots are something that we, as players, expend when we want our spellcasting PCs to cast a spell. It is a resource to limit how many powerful spells we can cast in a day. But for our characters in-game, they don't exist. So what are they?



The best way I can think of to illustrate my question is via an example involving a Kenku.



Background



I was going to ask the question "Can a (non-spellcaster) Kenku cast a Verbal-component-only spell that they have heard a spellcaster cast via Mimicry?" I knew the answer would be that they can't, but I was wondering what the in-game justification is for this.



Out-of-game, the answer is that they do not have the Spellcasting (or Pact Magic) class feature, and therefore do not have spell slots to expend to cast the spell, but that just replaced one question with another; what is a spell slot in-game? Knowing the answer to this would justify why the Kenku perfectly mimicking the Verbal component of a spell doesn't work in-game.



Comparison



There are other terms we use: HP, AC, XP; these terms do not exist in-game. My PC won't know what "HP" is. HP has an in-game description, as explained further in this question: What does HP represent?



In short, from the PHB, pg. 196:




Hit points represent a combination of physical and mental durability, the will to live, and luck.




So those are things that my PC might know about and understand; luck, the will to live, etc. They make sense in-game and are something my character could talk about.



What I've Looked Up



A Wizard's Spellcasting class feature (PHB, pg. 114) only describes the mechanics of what a spell slot is to the player (I didn't check the Spellcasting class feature for all the other classes), and the Spell Slots section (PHB, pg. 201) simply says (regarding flavour):




Manipulating the fabric of magic and channeling its energy into even a simple spell is physically and mentally taxing, and higher-level spells are even more so.




But that doesn't explain why, say, a Kenku who has learned to mimic a Wizard's spell's Verbal components couldn't cast a spell (without being a spellcaster class themselves; i.e. they have no spell slots).



Sure, it might "tax" them, but surely they'd be able to pull it off at least once that day? Or is it so taxing to even say that specific word or phrase that they wouldn't actually be able to even finish saying it "without the proper training" (e.g. being a Wizard), and thus cannot "complete" the spell? (NB: This isn't my question, it's just included to show my train of thought.)



Question



So what are spell slots in-game? What in-game "thing" do they represent? Is there an in-game justification for why a character who has spell slots can cast a spell in-game, whereas a different character without spell slots could not (even if they can satisfy the spell's components; i.e. a Kenku perfectly mimicking the Verbal component)?




If the flavour of certain spellcasting classes would influence the answer such that all classes cannot be explained by one explanation (i.e. because Warlocks have Patrons, Sorcerers have "a spark of magic within them", divine casters have gods or ideals, etc) then this question can just focus on Wizards specifically and what their spell slots mean, since a Wizard's relationship with magic (i.e. "learning") is closer to how a Kenku "learns" the Verbal component via mimicry.



Also, I'm not particularly interested in settings-specific answer, but if a specific setting would influence an answer, let's assume the Forgotten Realms (as it is the default setting of 5e).



Just to clarify: I don't think the Kenku should be able to do this (e.g. a level 1 Kenku overhears a high level Wizard cast wish, uh... no), my question is why not from an in-game/lore perspective.










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  • I was agonising over the wording of this question for over an hour; if anyone has any suggestions to improve it, I'm all ears. I want to focus on the "what is a spell slot" aspect of this question, but I know this is an X-Y question; hopefully by being up-front about that in the question, it should still be answerable, since I do want to know the answer to "Y" as well. Of course, this is all assuming Y is actually the answer to X (I might be wrong about my assumption, although currently I'm convinced that I'm not).
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    I wonder (I'm not sure either way) if it might be better to limit this question to just Wizards (i.e. a Kenku copying the casting of a Wizard spell by a Wizard)? Other classes may be easier to dismiss and sidestep the real question (Warlocks - the Kenku doesn't have a patron, Sorcerer - the Kenku doesn't have the necessary magic inside themselves, Cleric / Paladin the Kenku doesn't have the necessary devotion/ relationship to an ideal/deity)
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    To close-voters; please let me know what can be done to make this less broad, etc. I'd like to keep this open, and close votes are primarily to fix a question to a more answerable state.
    – NathanS
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    Related Q&A about vancian magic which was D&D's original model; 5e has vestiges of it though it's not as "pure" as some previous editions. Reading them may help you rephrase or tighten the scope of your question. The (1) problem you are asking about "in re justification" and (2) the example you use, limited to a verbal component, seem to pull this question in two different directions. Pick one.
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Spell slots are something that we, as players, expend when we want our spellcasting PCs to cast a spell. It is a resource to limit how many powerful spells we can cast in a day. But for our characters in-game, they don't exist. So what are they?



The best way I can think of to illustrate my question is via an example involving a Kenku.



Background



I was going to ask the question "Can a (non-spellcaster) Kenku cast a Verbal-component-only spell that they have heard a spellcaster cast via Mimicry?" I knew the answer would be that they can't, but I was wondering what the in-game justification is for this.



Out-of-game, the answer is that they do not have the Spellcasting (or Pact Magic) class feature, and therefore do not have spell slots to expend to cast the spell, but that just replaced one question with another; what is a spell slot in-game? Knowing the answer to this would justify why the Kenku perfectly mimicking the Verbal component of a spell doesn't work in-game.



Comparison



There are other terms we use: HP, AC, XP; these terms do not exist in-game. My PC won't know what "HP" is. HP has an in-game description, as explained further in this question: What does HP represent?



In short, from the PHB, pg. 196:




Hit points represent a combination of physical and mental durability, the will to live, and luck.




So those are things that my PC might know about and understand; luck, the will to live, etc. They make sense in-game and are something my character could talk about.



What I've Looked Up



A Wizard's Spellcasting class feature (PHB, pg. 114) only describes the mechanics of what a spell slot is to the player (I didn't check the Spellcasting class feature for all the other classes), and the Spell Slots section (PHB, pg. 201) simply says (regarding flavour):




Manipulating the fabric of magic and channeling its energy into even a simple spell is physically and mentally taxing, and higher-level spells are even more so.




But that doesn't explain why, say, a Kenku who has learned to mimic a Wizard's spell's Verbal components couldn't cast a spell (without being a spellcaster class themselves; i.e. they have no spell slots).



Sure, it might "tax" them, but surely they'd be able to pull it off at least once that day? Or is it so taxing to even say that specific word or phrase that they wouldn't actually be able to even finish saying it "without the proper training" (e.g. being a Wizard), and thus cannot "complete" the spell? (NB: This isn't my question, it's just included to show my train of thought.)



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So what are spell slots in-game? What in-game "thing" do they represent? Is there an in-game justification for why a character who has spell slots can cast a spell in-game, whereas a different character without spell slots could not (even if they can satisfy the spell's components; i.e. a Kenku perfectly mimicking the Verbal component)?




If the flavour of certain spellcasting classes would influence the answer such that all classes cannot be explained by one explanation (i.e. because Warlocks have Patrons, Sorcerers have "a spark of magic within them", divine casters have gods or ideals, etc) then this question can just focus on Wizards specifically and what their spell slots mean, since a Wizard's relationship with magic (i.e. "learning") is closer to how a Kenku "learns" the Verbal component via mimicry.



Also, I'm not particularly interested in settings-specific answer, but if a specific setting would influence an answer, let's assume the Forgotten Realms (as it is the default setting of 5e).



Just to clarify: I don't think the Kenku should be able to do this (e.g. a level 1 Kenku overhears a high level Wizard cast wish, uh... no), my question is why not from an in-game/lore perspective.










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Spell slots are something that we, as players, expend when we want our spellcasting PCs to cast a spell. It is a resource to limit how many powerful spells we can cast in a day. But for our characters in-game, they don't exist. So what are they?



The best way I can think of to illustrate my question is via an example involving a Kenku.



Background



I was going to ask the question "Can a (non-spellcaster) Kenku cast a Verbal-component-only spell that they have heard a spellcaster cast via Mimicry?" I knew the answer would be that they can't, but I was wondering what the in-game justification is for this.



Out-of-game, the answer is that they do not have the Spellcasting (or Pact Magic) class feature, and therefore do not have spell slots to expend to cast the spell, but that just replaced one question with another; what is a spell slot in-game? Knowing the answer to this would justify why the Kenku perfectly mimicking the Verbal component of a spell doesn't work in-game.



Comparison



There are other terms we use: HP, AC, XP; these terms do not exist in-game. My PC won't know what "HP" is. HP has an in-game description, as explained further in this question: What does HP represent?



In short, from the PHB, pg. 196:




Hit points represent a combination of physical and mental durability, the will to live, and luck.




So those are things that my PC might know about and understand; luck, the will to live, etc. They make sense in-game and are something my character could talk about.



What I've Looked Up



A Wizard's Spellcasting class feature (PHB, pg. 114) only describes the mechanics of what a spell slot is to the player (I didn't check the Spellcasting class feature for all the other classes), and the Spell Slots section (PHB, pg. 201) simply says (regarding flavour):




Manipulating the fabric of magic and channeling its energy into even a simple spell is physically and mentally taxing, and higher-level spells are even more so.




But that doesn't explain why, say, a Kenku who has learned to mimic a Wizard's spell's Verbal components couldn't cast a spell (without being a spellcaster class themselves; i.e. they have no spell slots).



Sure, it might "tax" them, but surely they'd be able to pull it off at least once that day? Or is it so taxing to even say that specific word or phrase that they wouldn't actually be able to even finish saying it "without the proper training" (e.g. being a Wizard), and thus cannot "complete" the spell? (NB: This isn't my question, it's just included to show my train of thought.)



Question



So what are spell slots in-game? What in-game "thing" do they represent? Is there an in-game justification for why a character who has spell slots can cast a spell in-game, whereas a different character without spell slots could not (even if they can satisfy the spell's components; i.e. a Kenku perfectly mimicking the Verbal component)?




If the flavour of certain spellcasting classes would influence the answer such that all classes cannot be explained by one explanation (i.e. because Warlocks have Patrons, Sorcerers have "a spark of magic within them", divine casters have gods or ideals, etc) then this question can just focus on Wizards specifically and what their spell slots mean, since a Wizard's relationship with magic (i.e. "learning") is closer to how a Kenku "learns" the Verbal component via mimicry.



Also, I'm not particularly interested in settings-specific answer, but if a specific setting would influence an answer, let's assume the Forgotten Realms (as it is the default setting of 5e).



Just to clarify: I don't think the Kenku should be able to do this (e.g. a level 1 Kenku overhears a high level Wizard cast wish, uh... no), my question is why not from an in-game/lore perspective.







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  • I was agonising over the wording of this question for over an hour; if anyone has any suggestions to improve it, I'm all ears. I want to focus on the "what is a spell slot" aspect of this question, but I know this is an X-Y question; hopefully by being up-front about that in the question, it should still be answerable, since I do want to know the answer to "Y" as well. Of course, this is all assuming Y is actually the answer to X (I might be wrong about my assumption, although currently I'm convinced that I'm not).
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    I wonder (I'm not sure either way) if it might be better to limit this question to just Wizards (i.e. a Kenku copying the casting of a Wizard spell by a Wizard)? Other classes may be easier to dismiss and sidestep the real question (Warlocks - the Kenku doesn't have a patron, Sorcerer - the Kenku doesn't have the necessary magic inside themselves, Cleric / Paladin the Kenku doesn't have the necessary devotion/ relationship to an ideal/deity)
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    To close-voters; please let me know what can be done to make this less broad, etc. I'd like to keep this open, and close votes are primarily to fix a question to a more answerable state.
    – NathanS
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    Related Q&A about vancian magic which was D&D's original model; 5e has vestiges of it though it's not as "pure" as some previous editions. Reading them may help you rephrase or tighten the scope of your question. The (1) problem you are asking about "in re justification" and (2) the example you use, limited to a verbal component, seem to pull this question in two different directions. Pick one.
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  • I was agonising over the wording of this question for over an hour; if anyone has any suggestions to improve it, I'm all ears. I want to focus on the "what is a spell slot" aspect of this question, but I know this is an X-Y question; hopefully by being up-front about that in the question, it should still be answerable, since I do want to know the answer to "Y" as well. Of course, this is all assuming Y is actually the answer to X (I might be wrong about my assumption, although currently I'm convinced that I'm not).
    – NathanS
    yesterday






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    I wonder (I'm not sure either way) if it might be better to limit this question to just Wizards (i.e. a Kenku copying the casting of a Wizard spell by a Wizard)? Other classes may be easier to dismiss and sidestep the real question (Warlocks - the Kenku doesn't have a patron, Sorcerer - the Kenku doesn't have the necessary magic inside themselves, Cleric / Paladin the Kenku doesn't have the necessary devotion/ relationship to an ideal/deity)
    – Tiggerous
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    To close-voters; please let me know what can be done to make this less broad, etc. I'd like to keep this open, and close votes are primarily to fix a question to a more answerable state.
    – NathanS
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    Related Q&A about vancian magic which was D&D's original model; 5e has vestiges of it though it's not as "pure" as some previous editions. Reading them may help you rephrase or tighten the scope of your question. The (1) problem you are asking about "in re justification" and (2) the example you use, limited to a verbal component, seem to pull this question in two different directions. Pick one.
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I was agonising over the wording of this question for over an hour; if anyone has any suggestions to improve it, I'm all ears. I want to focus on the "what is a spell slot" aspect of this question, but I know this is an X-Y question; hopefully by being up-front about that in the question, it should still be answerable, since I do want to know the answer to "Y" as well. Of course, this is all assuming Y is actually the answer to X (I might be wrong about my assumption, although currently I'm convinced that I'm not).
– NathanS
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I was agonising over the wording of this question for over an hour; if anyone has any suggestions to improve it, I'm all ears. I want to focus on the "what is a spell slot" aspect of this question, but I know this is an X-Y question; hopefully by being up-front about that in the question, it should still be answerable, since I do want to know the answer to "Y" as well. Of course, this is all assuming Y is actually the answer to X (I might be wrong about my assumption, although currently I'm convinced that I'm not).
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I wonder (I'm not sure either way) if it might be better to limit this question to just Wizards (i.e. a Kenku copying the casting of a Wizard spell by a Wizard)? Other classes may be easier to dismiss and sidestep the real question (Warlocks - the Kenku doesn't have a patron, Sorcerer - the Kenku doesn't have the necessary magic inside themselves, Cleric / Paladin the Kenku doesn't have the necessary devotion/ relationship to an ideal/deity)
– Tiggerous
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I wonder (I'm not sure either way) if it might be better to limit this question to just Wizards (i.e. a Kenku copying the casting of a Wizard spell by a Wizard)? Other classes may be easier to dismiss and sidestep the real question (Warlocks - the Kenku doesn't have a patron, Sorcerer - the Kenku doesn't have the necessary magic inside themselves, Cleric / Paladin the Kenku doesn't have the necessary devotion/ relationship to an ideal/deity)
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To close-voters; please let me know what can be done to make this less broad, etc. I'd like to keep this open, and close votes are primarily to fix a question to a more answerable state.
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To close-voters; please let me know what can be done to make this less broad, etc. I'd like to keep this open, and close votes are primarily to fix a question to a more answerable state.
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Related Q&A about vancian magic which was D&D's original model; 5e has vestiges of it though it's not as "pure" as some previous editions. Reading them may help you rephrase or tighten the scope of your question. The (1) problem you are asking about "in re justification" and (2) the example you use, limited to a verbal component, seem to pull this question in two different directions. Pick one.
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Related Q&A about vancian magic which was D&D's original model; 5e has vestiges of it though it's not as "pure" as some previous editions. Reading them may help you rephrase or tighten the scope of your question. The (1) problem you are asking about "in re justification" and (2) the example you use, limited to a verbal component, seem to pull this question in two different directions. Pick one.
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Spell slots represent the caster's mental limits



D&D 5th edition's Player's Handbook, p. 201, under Spell Slots, describes them thusly:




Regardless of how many spells a caster knows or prepares, he or she can cast only a limited number of spells before resting. Manipulating the fabric of magic and channeling its energy into even a simple spell is physically and mentally taxing, and higher-level spells are even more so. ...



When a character casts a spell, he or she expends a slot of that spell's level or higher, effectively "filling" a slot with the spell. You can think of a spell slot as a groove of a certain size—small for a 1st-level slot, larger for a spell of higher level.




In the earliest editions of Dungeons & Dragons, a spell was "memorized" once, and actually disappeared from the caster's memory when cast. This comes from the stories of author Jack Vance, where magic works in a similar manner.



Under this system, a caster simply had a limit of how many spells he could memorize, with more skilled casters capable of memorizing more spells at a time. More powerful spells were harder to memorize.



In D&D 3rd edition, the lore changed significantly: casters only prepared spells, not memorized them. This means they cast most of the spell except for the final few words, which serve as the trigger. Incidentally, this is why you can't cast a spell by repeating the sounds a wizard makes: the words are merely a trigger for the prepared spells stored in the caster's mind, and unless you've actually prepared those spells, those words do nothing.



The limits to preparation were described in the third edition Player's Handbook, p. 178:




If a wizard has cast spells recently, the drain on her resources reduces her capacity to prepare new spells.




The wizard's intelligence is a limiting factor:




Preparing an arcane spell is an arduous mental task. To do so, the wizard must have an Intelligence score of at least 10 + the spell's level. ... To prepare her daily spells, a wizard must have a clear mind.




Casting a spell is also described as draining on a wizard, as fighting might be for a warrior:




Upon the casting of a spell, the spell's energy is expended and purged from the character, leaving her feeling a little tired.




It is similar for clerics, druids and paladins:




Divine casters prepare their spells in largely the same manner as wizards do, but with a few differences.




D&D 3rd edition opened up the idea of spontaneous casting with the Sorcerer class, who simply "knew" spells and cast them spontaneously using spell slots. Designer Monte Cook believed that the resulting increase in versatility actually made the class more powerful, because you are more likely to be able to cast the optimal spell in the right circumstance.



The limits of spontaneous casters were less clearly described. They have a limit because that's the best they can do until they gain a new level, but there's no discrete lore reason why.



According to those editions, spell slots represent the caster's mental stamina and capacity to hold magical energy in their mind. I recall a designer (Mearls, possibly?) saying that spell slots in a caster's mind are analogous to a quiver of arrows, which are discrete units of effect and one cannot fight when they are exhausted.



The 5th edition Player's Handbook also describes a spell slot as a mental container of magical energy, under the wizard section on p.115, under Arcane Recovery:




You have learned to regain some of your magical energy by studying your spellbook. Once per day when you finish a short rest, you can choose expended spell slots to recover.







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    You have my +1 for the historical point you bring over the most upvoted answer.
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  • Not sure if you want to fit this in, but the "prepared spell" analogy to "charging a capacitor" is one that is pretty easily understood in your section on the older editions and their limitations on spell slots.
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    Given that you can upcast but not use multiple same level slots at once, I'm not sure the bucket of magical energy holds up particularly well, unless we complicate things by adding multiple types of energy in that one bucket, which is sort of removing the point of an abstraction in the first place.
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  • @MichaelW. I was say that the bucket analogy does hold up, because its more difficult to channel energy from multiple sources simultaneously, but much easier to use more than the required minimum amount. If you want to drain power from two batteries at the same time, you need to duplicate the circuits (at least partially). Note that sorcerers can effectively use multiple same level slots at once, albeit with a bit of preparation time and inefficiency.
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As you noted, according to the PHB:




Regardless of how many spells a caster knows or prepares, he or she can cast only a limited number of spells before resting. Manipulating the fabric of magic and channeling its energy into even a simple spell is physically and mentally taxing....




So therefore, spell slots are an abstraction of arcane potential: how much magic a character can cast in a given day.



"Manipulating the fabric of magic" isn't just flavor; it's the abstract description of what is happening in-game.



There is therefore something, some source of arcane ability, that each caster has that allows them to manipulate the fabric of magic, something that non-casters do not have.



For different kinds of casters, that source of arcane ability is different. For some it is divine, or an otherworldly patron, or an innate magical gift, or the forces of nature.



You mentioned wizards specifically. Wizards have developed their arcane power after years of study:



From the PHB:




Though the casting of a typical spell requires merely the utterance of a few strange words, fleeting gestures, and sometimes a pinch or clump of exotic materials, these surface components barely hint at the expertise attained after years of apprenticeship and countless hours of study.




By definition, merely the verbal, somatic, and material components are insufficient, it is the mental expertise the wizard has gained over many years.



So, while the verbal, physical, and somatic components are (usually) a necessary component of casting a spell, they are not by themselves sufficient. There is something else, something internal, something attained in one way or another, perhaps by years of mental preparation, a divine or natural connection, an otherworldly patron, or some innate ability.



That's why merely mimicking the components isn't enough.






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  • On a side note, at least in Forgotten Realms lore, wizards take power not only from their study, but they also are attuned to the Weave. So there is quite a bit of practice within it, at synchronizing oneself with the weave, "feeling" it and accessing it, which is also a very big part of the mental weight of the task. If you look at character building tables, wizards are often quite older than most classes. A high level warrior may have 25 years, but wizards, they are usually very old - it takes a lot of time to train and learn this weave's connection and correctly use it at will when needed.
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This is setting-specific, which is why it is not spelled out in more detail in the rules and left as an abstraction. From Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide:




The Weave is an essential element of the universe, running through everything in unseen threads. Some creatures, objects, and locations have deep, intrinsic ties to the Weave and can perform extraordinary feats that come naturally to them (a beholder’s flight, a vampire’s charming gaze, a dragon’s breath weapon, and so forth). Creatures with the necessary talent and skill can also manipulate the Weave to perform magic by casting spells.




So, in Forgotten Realms, spells slots are some aspect of how the "Weave" is manipulated by characters or creatures with spellcasting ability. The details of how that exactly works is left to Mystra — the goddess of magic. In your example, your kenku mimic knows the sounds and motions, but does not know how to access the Weave.



I don't own the 5E Eberron material, but Keith Baker describes magic as being like a force of the universe where spellcasting is treated as a science (and slots are a consequence of the application of that science). In the post, Baker describes the possibility that magic missile was originally (in the fictitious history of the setting) a third-level spell but the application of research brought it down over time to a first level. This is less satisfying in the kenku mimic case, but... there it is.



In Dark Sun, magic draws from the lifeforce of living beings or of the planet itself. Again, spell-slots are the abstraction of how this works — and the kenku mimic is simply saying the words, not actually drawing that force.






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    The particular thing with "levels" seems very odd when trying to apply some sort of rationality to it, but, hey, electron shell energy levels in real-world physics kind of have the same thing.
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    I think a good source for ways to rationalize rules in fiction is going to the Forgotten Realms books, such as Elminster. Substitute with Dragonlance or whichever setting you use at the table.
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Mana



Each spell slot represents a set quantity of magical energy (commonly called Mana). Each spell requires the use of a set amount of a particular quality of Mana at the time of casting.



As a character gains experience, the available pool of Mana increases, and the number of spells that can be cast increases as a result.



The different levels of spell slots represent increasingly rich sources of Mana. Some spells have an increased effect when a richer Mana source is utilised for the casting (casting the spell at a different/higher level). Once again, as the character gains experience, increasingly rich sources become available.



The Kenku's lack of spellcasting ability can be explained by being unable to access a store of Mana. This may be a restriction based on profession, or possibly a hindrance suffered by the race as a whole. (I don't have any books to hand that might confirm or deny this, but I do remember Kenku being a playable race at one point, so professional limitation might be more accurate. As always, Rule 0 applies.)






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    Mana and its common use to fuel spells in, say, MtG, doesn't seem to jibe with D&D's notion of leveled slots--mana would seem to be a better model for the "spell points" variant in the DMG. Can you explain a bit more about this "richness" factor you see mana having and where in D&D publications this comes from?
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    Is this your personal interpretation, or is this actually how the game describes the system? I've not actually looked into 5e yet but back in 3.X that was very clearly NOT the case - D&D was using Vancian casting as per the writings of Jack Vance. Each wizard has to prepare spells in advance and can only prepare so many every day. There is no mana, instead casting the spell releases it and it cannot be recast unless prepared another time (whether prepared twice or prepared the next day).
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  • @nitsua60. I confess that I've made this up and have no publication reference to give. Perhaps I should make that clear? Although the OP seemed to be unsatisfied with the explanation given in the published material, so I felt the improvisation justified. I saw the "richness" as similar to density or a subtly different form of Mana, such that the Mana of one spell level is not interchangeable with another.
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    This answer would be a better answer to a question about spell points (which is a variant rule in D&D 5e) rather than the question about spell slots. Spell slots are not a mana pool; no way, now how. I've played both kinds of systems (and of course mana pools in computer games) and of all the analogies offered, this one is the least useful for an in universe explanation. See also previous edition D&D Psionics points for a spell point/mana system as you describe.
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    If this is something you made up, the answer should say so. The default assumption here is that when an answers say “X is Y” it’s saying that it’s true, not a suggestion or new idea. This answer seems therefore to be saying that spell slots are canonically Mana in D&D. If you don’t want the answer to be understood that way, it needs to say something to avoid that understanding. An edit would help towards that.
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Spell slots represent the caster's mental limits



D&D 5th edition's Player's Handbook, p. 201, under Spell Slots, describes them thusly:




Regardless of how many spells a caster knows or prepares, he or she can cast only a limited number of spells before resting. Manipulating the fabric of magic and channeling its energy into even a simple spell is physically and mentally taxing, and higher-level spells are even more so. ...



When a character casts a spell, he or she expends a slot of that spell's level or higher, effectively "filling" a slot with the spell. You can think of a spell slot as a groove of a certain size—small for a 1st-level slot, larger for a spell of higher level.




In the earliest editions of Dungeons & Dragons, a spell was "memorized" once, and actually disappeared from the caster's memory when cast. This comes from the stories of author Jack Vance, where magic works in a similar manner.



Under this system, a caster simply had a limit of how many spells he could memorize, with more skilled casters capable of memorizing more spells at a time. More powerful spells were harder to memorize.



In D&D 3rd edition, the lore changed significantly: casters only prepared spells, not memorized them. This means they cast most of the spell except for the final few words, which serve as the trigger. Incidentally, this is why you can't cast a spell by repeating the sounds a wizard makes: the words are merely a trigger for the prepared spells stored in the caster's mind, and unless you've actually prepared those spells, those words do nothing.



The limits to preparation were described in the third edition Player's Handbook, p. 178:




If a wizard has cast spells recently, the drain on her resources reduces her capacity to prepare new spells.




The wizard's intelligence is a limiting factor:




Preparing an arcane spell is an arduous mental task. To do so, the wizard must have an Intelligence score of at least 10 + the spell's level. ... To prepare her daily spells, a wizard must have a clear mind.




Casting a spell is also described as draining on a wizard, as fighting might be for a warrior:




Upon the casting of a spell, the spell's energy is expended and purged from the character, leaving her feeling a little tired.




It is similar for clerics, druids and paladins:




Divine casters prepare their spells in largely the same manner as wizards do, but with a few differences.




D&D 3rd edition opened up the idea of spontaneous casting with the Sorcerer class, who simply "knew" spells and cast them spontaneously using spell slots. Designer Monte Cook believed that the resulting increase in versatility actually made the class more powerful, because you are more likely to be able to cast the optimal spell in the right circumstance.



The limits of spontaneous casters were less clearly described. They have a limit because that's the best they can do until they gain a new level, but there's no discrete lore reason why.



According to those editions, spell slots represent the caster's mental stamina and capacity to hold magical energy in their mind. I recall a designer (Mearls, possibly?) saying that spell slots in a caster's mind are analogous to a quiver of arrows, which are discrete units of effect and one cannot fight when they are exhausted.



The 5th edition Player's Handbook also describes a spell slot as a mental container of magical energy, under the wizard section on p.115, under Arcane Recovery:




You have learned to regain some of your magical energy by studying your spellbook. Once per day when you finish a short rest, you can choose expended spell slots to recover.







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    You have my +1 for the historical point you bring over the most upvoted answer.
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  • Not sure if you want to fit this in, but the "prepared spell" analogy to "charging a capacitor" is one that is pretty easily understood in your section on the older editions and their limitations on spell slots.
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    Given that you can upcast but not use multiple same level slots at once, I'm not sure the bucket of magical energy holds up particularly well, unless we complicate things by adding multiple types of energy in that one bucket, which is sort of removing the point of an abstraction in the first place.
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  • @MichaelW. I was say that the bucket analogy does hold up, because its more difficult to channel energy from multiple sources simultaneously, but much easier to use more than the required minimum amount. If you want to drain power from two batteries at the same time, you need to duplicate the circuits (at least partially). Note that sorcerers can effectively use multiple same level slots at once, albeit with a bit of preparation time and inefficiency.
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Spell slots represent the caster's mental limits



D&D 5th edition's Player's Handbook, p. 201, under Spell Slots, describes them thusly:




Regardless of how many spells a caster knows or prepares, he or she can cast only a limited number of spells before resting. Manipulating the fabric of magic and channeling its energy into even a simple spell is physically and mentally taxing, and higher-level spells are even more so. ...



When a character casts a spell, he or she expends a slot of that spell's level or higher, effectively "filling" a slot with the spell. You can think of a spell slot as a groove of a certain size—small for a 1st-level slot, larger for a spell of higher level.




In the earliest editions of Dungeons & Dragons, a spell was "memorized" once, and actually disappeared from the caster's memory when cast. This comes from the stories of author Jack Vance, where magic works in a similar manner.



Under this system, a caster simply had a limit of how many spells he could memorize, with more skilled casters capable of memorizing more spells at a time. More powerful spells were harder to memorize.



In D&D 3rd edition, the lore changed significantly: casters only prepared spells, not memorized them. This means they cast most of the spell except for the final few words, which serve as the trigger. Incidentally, this is why you can't cast a spell by repeating the sounds a wizard makes: the words are merely a trigger for the prepared spells stored in the caster's mind, and unless you've actually prepared those spells, those words do nothing.



The limits to preparation were described in the third edition Player's Handbook, p. 178:




If a wizard has cast spells recently, the drain on her resources reduces her capacity to prepare new spells.




The wizard's intelligence is a limiting factor:




Preparing an arcane spell is an arduous mental task. To do so, the wizard must have an Intelligence score of at least 10 + the spell's level. ... To prepare her daily spells, a wizard must have a clear mind.




Casting a spell is also described as draining on a wizard, as fighting might be for a warrior:




Upon the casting of a spell, the spell's energy is expended and purged from the character, leaving her feeling a little tired.




It is similar for clerics, druids and paladins:




Divine casters prepare their spells in largely the same manner as wizards do, but with a few differences.




D&D 3rd edition opened up the idea of spontaneous casting with the Sorcerer class, who simply "knew" spells and cast them spontaneously using spell slots. Designer Monte Cook believed that the resulting increase in versatility actually made the class more powerful, because you are more likely to be able to cast the optimal spell in the right circumstance.



The limits of spontaneous casters were less clearly described. They have a limit because that's the best they can do until they gain a new level, but there's no discrete lore reason why.



According to those editions, spell slots represent the caster's mental stamina and capacity to hold magical energy in their mind. I recall a designer (Mearls, possibly?) saying that spell slots in a caster's mind are analogous to a quiver of arrows, which are discrete units of effect and one cannot fight when they are exhausted.



The 5th edition Player's Handbook also describes a spell slot as a mental container of magical energy, under the wizard section on p.115, under Arcane Recovery:




You have learned to regain some of your magical energy by studying your spellbook. Once per day when you finish a short rest, you can choose expended spell slots to recover.







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    You have my +1 for the historical point you bring over the most upvoted answer.
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  • Not sure if you want to fit this in, but the "prepared spell" analogy to "charging a capacitor" is one that is pretty easily understood in your section on the older editions and their limitations on spell slots.
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    Given that you can upcast but not use multiple same level slots at once, I'm not sure the bucket of magical energy holds up particularly well, unless we complicate things by adding multiple types of energy in that one bucket, which is sort of removing the point of an abstraction in the first place.
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  • @MichaelW. I was say that the bucket analogy does hold up, because its more difficult to channel energy from multiple sources simultaneously, but much easier to use more than the required minimum amount. If you want to drain power from two batteries at the same time, you need to duplicate the circuits (at least partially). Note that sorcerers can effectively use multiple same level slots at once, albeit with a bit of preparation time and inefficiency.
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Spell slots represent the caster's mental limits



D&D 5th edition's Player's Handbook, p. 201, under Spell Slots, describes them thusly:




Regardless of how many spells a caster knows or prepares, he or she can cast only a limited number of spells before resting. Manipulating the fabric of magic and channeling its energy into even a simple spell is physically and mentally taxing, and higher-level spells are even more so. ...



When a character casts a spell, he or she expends a slot of that spell's level or higher, effectively "filling" a slot with the spell. You can think of a spell slot as a groove of a certain size—small for a 1st-level slot, larger for a spell of higher level.




In the earliest editions of Dungeons & Dragons, a spell was "memorized" once, and actually disappeared from the caster's memory when cast. This comes from the stories of author Jack Vance, where magic works in a similar manner.



Under this system, a caster simply had a limit of how many spells he could memorize, with more skilled casters capable of memorizing more spells at a time. More powerful spells were harder to memorize.



In D&D 3rd edition, the lore changed significantly: casters only prepared spells, not memorized them. This means they cast most of the spell except for the final few words, which serve as the trigger. Incidentally, this is why you can't cast a spell by repeating the sounds a wizard makes: the words are merely a trigger for the prepared spells stored in the caster's mind, and unless you've actually prepared those spells, those words do nothing.



The limits to preparation were described in the third edition Player's Handbook, p. 178:




If a wizard has cast spells recently, the drain on her resources reduces her capacity to prepare new spells.




The wizard's intelligence is a limiting factor:




Preparing an arcane spell is an arduous mental task. To do so, the wizard must have an Intelligence score of at least 10 + the spell's level. ... To prepare her daily spells, a wizard must have a clear mind.




Casting a spell is also described as draining on a wizard, as fighting might be for a warrior:




Upon the casting of a spell, the spell's energy is expended and purged from the character, leaving her feeling a little tired.




It is similar for clerics, druids and paladins:




Divine casters prepare their spells in largely the same manner as wizards do, but with a few differences.




D&D 3rd edition opened up the idea of spontaneous casting with the Sorcerer class, who simply "knew" spells and cast them spontaneously using spell slots. Designer Monte Cook believed that the resulting increase in versatility actually made the class more powerful, because you are more likely to be able to cast the optimal spell in the right circumstance.



The limits of spontaneous casters were less clearly described. They have a limit because that's the best they can do until they gain a new level, but there's no discrete lore reason why.



According to those editions, spell slots represent the caster's mental stamina and capacity to hold magical energy in their mind. I recall a designer (Mearls, possibly?) saying that spell slots in a caster's mind are analogous to a quiver of arrows, which are discrete units of effect and one cannot fight when they are exhausted.



The 5th edition Player's Handbook also describes a spell slot as a mental container of magical energy, under the wizard section on p.115, under Arcane Recovery:




You have learned to regain some of your magical energy by studying your spellbook. Once per day when you finish a short rest, you can choose expended spell slots to recover.







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Spell slots represent the caster's mental limits



D&D 5th edition's Player's Handbook, p. 201, under Spell Slots, describes them thusly:




Regardless of how many spells a caster knows or prepares, he or she can cast only a limited number of spells before resting. Manipulating the fabric of magic and channeling its energy into even a simple spell is physically and mentally taxing, and higher-level spells are even more so. ...



When a character casts a spell, he or she expends a slot of that spell's level or higher, effectively "filling" a slot with the spell. You can think of a spell slot as a groove of a certain size—small for a 1st-level slot, larger for a spell of higher level.




In the earliest editions of Dungeons & Dragons, a spell was "memorized" once, and actually disappeared from the caster's memory when cast. This comes from the stories of author Jack Vance, where magic works in a similar manner.



Under this system, a caster simply had a limit of how many spells he could memorize, with more skilled casters capable of memorizing more spells at a time. More powerful spells were harder to memorize.



In D&D 3rd edition, the lore changed significantly: casters only prepared spells, not memorized them. This means they cast most of the spell except for the final few words, which serve as the trigger. Incidentally, this is why you can't cast a spell by repeating the sounds a wizard makes: the words are merely a trigger for the prepared spells stored in the caster's mind, and unless you've actually prepared those spells, those words do nothing.



The limits to preparation were described in the third edition Player's Handbook, p. 178:




If a wizard has cast spells recently, the drain on her resources reduces her capacity to prepare new spells.




The wizard's intelligence is a limiting factor:




Preparing an arcane spell is an arduous mental task. To do so, the wizard must have an Intelligence score of at least 10 + the spell's level. ... To prepare her daily spells, a wizard must have a clear mind.




Casting a spell is also described as draining on a wizard, as fighting might be for a warrior:




Upon the casting of a spell, the spell's energy is expended and purged from the character, leaving her feeling a little tired.




It is similar for clerics, druids and paladins:




Divine casters prepare their spells in largely the same manner as wizards do, but with a few differences.




D&D 3rd edition opened up the idea of spontaneous casting with the Sorcerer class, who simply "knew" spells and cast them spontaneously using spell slots. Designer Monte Cook believed that the resulting increase in versatility actually made the class more powerful, because you are more likely to be able to cast the optimal spell in the right circumstance.



The limits of spontaneous casters were less clearly described. They have a limit because that's the best they can do until they gain a new level, but there's no discrete lore reason why.



According to those editions, spell slots represent the caster's mental stamina and capacity to hold magical energy in their mind. I recall a designer (Mearls, possibly?) saying that spell slots in a caster's mind are analogous to a quiver of arrows, which are discrete units of effect and one cannot fight when they are exhausted.



The 5th edition Player's Handbook also describes a spell slot as a mental container of magical energy, under the wizard section on p.115, under Arcane Recovery:




You have learned to regain some of your magical energy by studying your spellbook. Once per day when you finish a short rest, you can choose expended spell slots to recover.








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    You have my +1 for the historical point you bring over the most upvoted answer.
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  • Not sure if you want to fit this in, but the "prepared spell" analogy to "charging a capacitor" is one that is pretty easily understood in your section on the older editions and their limitations on spell slots.
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    Given that you can upcast but not use multiple same level slots at once, I'm not sure the bucket of magical energy holds up particularly well, unless we complicate things by adding multiple types of energy in that one bucket, which is sort of removing the point of an abstraction in the first place.
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  • @MichaelW. I was say that the bucket analogy does hold up, because its more difficult to channel energy from multiple sources simultaneously, but much easier to use more than the required minimum amount. If you want to drain power from two batteries at the same time, you need to duplicate the circuits (at least partially). Note that sorcerers can effectively use multiple same level slots at once, albeit with a bit of preparation time and inefficiency.
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    You have my +1 for the historical point you bring over the most upvoted answer.
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  • Not sure if you want to fit this in, but the "prepared spell" analogy to "charging a capacitor" is one that is pretty easily understood in your section on the older editions and their limitations on spell slots.
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    Given that you can upcast but not use multiple same level slots at once, I'm not sure the bucket of magical energy holds up particularly well, unless we complicate things by adding multiple types of energy in that one bucket, which is sort of removing the point of an abstraction in the first place.
    – Michael W.
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  • @MichaelW. I was say that the bucket analogy does hold up, because its more difficult to channel energy from multiple sources simultaneously, but much easier to use more than the required minimum amount. If you want to drain power from two batteries at the same time, you need to duplicate the circuits (at least partially). Note that sorcerers can effectively use multiple same level slots at once, albeit with a bit of preparation time and inefficiency.
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You have my +1 for the historical point you bring over the most upvoted answer.
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You have my +1 for the historical point you bring over the most upvoted answer.
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Not sure if you want to fit this in, but the "prepared spell" analogy to "charging a capacitor" is one that is pretty easily understood in your section on the older editions and their limitations on spell slots.
– KorvinStarmast
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Not sure if you want to fit this in, but the "prepared spell" analogy to "charging a capacitor" is one that is pretty easily understood in your section on the older editions and their limitations on spell slots.
– KorvinStarmast
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Given that you can upcast but not use multiple same level slots at once, I'm not sure the bucket of magical energy holds up particularly well, unless we complicate things by adding multiple types of energy in that one bucket, which is sort of removing the point of an abstraction in the first place.
– Michael W.
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Given that you can upcast but not use multiple same level slots at once, I'm not sure the bucket of magical energy holds up particularly well, unless we complicate things by adding multiple types of energy in that one bucket, which is sort of removing the point of an abstraction in the first place.
– Michael W.
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@MichaelW. I was say that the bucket analogy does hold up, because its more difficult to channel energy from multiple sources simultaneously, but much easier to use more than the required minimum amount. If you want to drain power from two batteries at the same time, you need to duplicate the circuits (at least partially). Note that sorcerers can effectively use multiple same level slots at once, albeit with a bit of preparation time and inefficiency.
– sharur
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@MichaelW. I was say that the bucket analogy does hold up, because its more difficult to channel energy from multiple sources simultaneously, but much easier to use more than the required minimum amount. If you want to drain power from two batteries at the same time, you need to duplicate the circuits (at least partially). Note that sorcerers can effectively use multiple same level slots at once, albeit with a bit of preparation time and inefficiency.
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As you noted, according to the PHB:




Regardless of how many spells a caster knows or prepares, he or she can cast only a limited number of spells before resting. Manipulating the fabric of magic and channeling its energy into even a simple spell is physically and mentally taxing....




So therefore, spell slots are an abstraction of arcane potential: how much magic a character can cast in a given day.



"Manipulating the fabric of magic" isn't just flavor; it's the abstract description of what is happening in-game.



There is therefore something, some source of arcane ability, that each caster has that allows them to manipulate the fabric of magic, something that non-casters do not have.



For different kinds of casters, that source of arcane ability is different. For some it is divine, or an otherworldly patron, or an innate magical gift, or the forces of nature.



You mentioned wizards specifically. Wizards have developed their arcane power after years of study:



From the PHB:




Though the casting of a typical spell requires merely the utterance of a few strange words, fleeting gestures, and sometimes a pinch or clump of exotic materials, these surface components barely hint at the expertise attained after years of apprenticeship and countless hours of study.




By definition, merely the verbal, somatic, and material components are insufficient, it is the mental expertise the wizard has gained over many years.



So, while the verbal, physical, and somatic components are (usually) a necessary component of casting a spell, they are not by themselves sufficient. There is something else, something internal, something attained in one way or another, perhaps by years of mental preparation, a divine or natural connection, an otherworldly patron, or some innate ability.



That's why merely mimicking the components isn't enough.






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  • On a side note, at least in Forgotten Realms lore, wizards take power not only from their study, but they also are attuned to the Weave. So there is quite a bit of practice within it, at synchronizing oneself with the weave, "feeling" it and accessing it, which is also a very big part of the mental weight of the task. If you look at character building tables, wizards are often quite older than most classes. A high level warrior may have 25 years, but wizards, they are usually very old - it takes a lot of time to train and learn this weave's connection and correctly use it at will when needed.
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As you noted, according to the PHB:




Regardless of how many spells a caster knows or prepares, he or she can cast only a limited number of spells before resting. Manipulating the fabric of magic and channeling its energy into even a simple spell is physically and mentally taxing....




So therefore, spell slots are an abstraction of arcane potential: how much magic a character can cast in a given day.



"Manipulating the fabric of magic" isn't just flavor; it's the abstract description of what is happening in-game.



There is therefore something, some source of arcane ability, that each caster has that allows them to manipulate the fabric of magic, something that non-casters do not have.



For different kinds of casters, that source of arcane ability is different. For some it is divine, or an otherworldly patron, or an innate magical gift, or the forces of nature.



You mentioned wizards specifically. Wizards have developed their arcane power after years of study:



From the PHB:




Though the casting of a typical spell requires merely the utterance of a few strange words, fleeting gestures, and sometimes a pinch or clump of exotic materials, these surface components barely hint at the expertise attained after years of apprenticeship and countless hours of study.




By definition, merely the verbal, somatic, and material components are insufficient, it is the mental expertise the wizard has gained over many years.



So, while the verbal, physical, and somatic components are (usually) a necessary component of casting a spell, they are not by themselves sufficient. There is something else, something internal, something attained in one way or another, perhaps by years of mental preparation, a divine or natural connection, an otherworldly patron, or some innate ability.



That's why merely mimicking the components isn't enough.






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  • On a side note, at least in Forgotten Realms lore, wizards take power not only from their study, but they also are attuned to the Weave. So there is quite a bit of practice within it, at synchronizing oneself with the weave, "feeling" it and accessing it, which is also a very big part of the mental weight of the task. If you look at character building tables, wizards are often quite older than most classes. A high level warrior may have 25 years, but wizards, they are usually very old - it takes a lot of time to train and learn this weave's connection and correctly use it at will when needed.
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As you noted, according to the PHB:




Regardless of how many spells a caster knows or prepares, he or she can cast only a limited number of spells before resting. Manipulating the fabric of magic and channeling its energy into even a simple spell is physically and mentally taxing....




So therefore, spell slots are an abstraction of arcane potential: how much magic a character can cast in a given day.



"Manipulating the fabric of magic" isn't just flavor; it's the abstract description of what is happening in-game.



There is therefore something, some source of arcane ability, that each caster has that allows them to manipulate the fabric of magic, something that non-casters do not have.



For different kinds of casters, that source of arcane ability is different. For some it is divine, or an otherworldly patron, or an innate magical gift, or the forces of nature.



You mentioned wizards specifically. Wizards have developed their arcane power after years of study:



From the PHB:




Though the casting of a typical spell requires merely the utterance of a few strange words, fleeting gestures, and sometimes a pinch or clump of exotic materials, these surface components barely hint at the expertise attained after years of apprenticeship and countless hours of study.




By definition, merely the verbal, somatic, and material components are insufficient, it is the mental expertise the wizard has gained over many years.



So, while the verbal, physical, and somatic components are (usually) a necessary component of casting a spell, they are not by themselves sufficient. There is something else, something internal, something attained in one way or another, perhaps by years of mental preparation, a divine or natural connection, an otherworldly patron, or some innate ability.



That's why merely mimicking the components isn't enough.






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As you noted, according to the PHB:




Regardless of how many spells a caster knows or prepares, he or she can cast only a limited number of spells before resting. Manipulating the fabric of magic and channeling its energy into even a simple spell is physically and mentally taxing....




So therefore, spell slots are an abstraction of arcane potential: how much magic a character can cast in a given day.



"Manipulating the fabric of magic" isn't just flavor; it's the abstract description of what is happening in-game.



There is therefore something, some source of arcane ability, that each caster has that allows them to manipulate the fabric of magic, something that non-casters do not have.



For different kinds of casters, that source of arcane ability is different. For some it is divine, or an otherworldly patron, or an innate magical gift, or the forces of nature.



You mentioned wizards specifically. Wizards have developed their arcane power after years of study:



From the PHB:




Though the casting of a typical spell requires merely the utterance of a few strange words, fleeting gestures, and sometimes a pinch or clump of exotic materials, these surface components barely hint at the expertise attained after years of apprenticeship and countless hours of study.




By definition, merely the verbal, somatic, and material components are insufficient, it is the mental expertise the wizard has gained over many years.



So, while the verbal, physical, and somatic components are (usually) a necessary component of casting a spell, they are not by themselves sufficient. There is something else, something internal, something attained in one way or another, perhaps by years of mental preparation, a divine or natural connection, an otherworldly patron, or some innate ability.



That's why merely mimicking the components isn't enough.







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  • On a side note, at least in Forgotten Realms lore, wizards take power not only from their study, but they also are attuned to the Weave. So there is quite a bit of practice within it, at synchronizing oneself with the weave, "feeling" it and accessing it, which is also a very big part of the mental weight of the task. If you look at character building tables, wizards are often quite older than most classes. A high level warrior may have 25 years, but wizards, they are usually very old - it takes a lot of time to train and learn this weave's connection and correctly use it at will when needed.
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  • On a side note, at least in Forgotten Realms lore, wizards take power not only from their study, but they also are attuned to the Weave. So there is quite a bit of practice within it, at synchronizing oneself with the weave, "feeling" it and accessing it, which is also a very big part of the mental weight of the task. If you look at character building tables, wizards are often quite older than most classes. A high level warrior may have 25 years, but wizards, they are usually very old - it takes a lot of time to train and learn this weave's connection and correctly use it at will when needed.
    – Elindor
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On a side note, at least in Forgotten Realms lore, wizards take power not only from their study, but they also are attuned to the Weave. So there is quite a bit of practice within it, at synchronizing oneself with the weave, "feeling" it and accessing it, which is also a very big part of the mental weight of the task. If you look at character building tables, wizards are often quite older than most classes. A high level warrior may have 25 years, but wizards, they are usually very old - it takes a lot of time to train and learn this weave's connection and correctly use it at will when needed.
– Elindor
15 hours ago





On a side note, at least in Forgotten Realms lore, wizards take power not only from their study, but they also are attuned to the Weave. So there is quite a bit of practice within it, at synchronizing oneself with the weave, "feeling" it and accessing it, which is also a very big part of the mental weight of the task. If you look at character building tables, wizards are often quite older than most classes. A high level warrior may have 25 years, but wizards, they are usually very old - it takes a lot of time to train and learn this weave's connection and correctly use it at will when needed.
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This is setting-specific, which is why it is not spelled out in more detail in the rules and left as an abstraction. From Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide:




The Weave is an essential element of the universe, running through everything in unseen threads. Some creatures, objects, and locations have deep, intrinsic ties to the Weave and can perform extraordinary feats that come naturally to them (a beholder’s flight, a vampire’s charming gaze, a dragon’s breath weapon, and so forth). Creatures with the necessary talent and skill can also manipulate the Weave to perform magic by casting spells.




So, in Forgotten Realms, spells slots are some aspect of how the "Weave" is manipulated by characters or creatures with spellcasting ability. The details of how that exactly works is left to Mystra — the goddess of magic. In your example, your kenku mimic knows the sounds and motions, but does not know how to access the Weave.



I don't own the 5E Eberron material, but Keith Baker describes magic as being like a force of the universe where spellcasting is treated as a science (and slots are a consequence of the application of that science). In the post, Baker describes the possibility that magic missile was originally (in the fictitious history of the setting) a third-level spell but the application of research brought it down over time to a first level. This is less satisfying in the kenku mimic case, but... there it is.



In Dark Sun, magic draws from the lifeforce of living beings or of the planet itself. Again, spell-slots are the abstraction of how this works — and the kenku mimic is simply saying the words, not actually drawing that force.






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    The particular thing with "levels" seems very odd when trying to apply some sort of rationality to it, but, hey, electron shell energy levels in real-world physics kind of have the same thing.
    – mattdm
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  • Likewise with charging capacitors
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    I think a good source for ways to rationalize rules in fiction is going to the Forgotten Realms books, such as Elminster. Substitute with Dragonlance or whichever setting you use at the table.
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This is setting-specific, which is why it is not spelled out in more detail in the rules and left as an abstraction. From Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide:




The Weave is an essential element of the universe, running through everything in unseen threads. Some creatures, objects, and locations have deep, intrinsic ties to the Weave and can perform extraordinary feats that come naturally to them (a beholder’s flight, a vampire’s charming gaze, a dragon’s breath weapon, and so forth). Creatures with the necessary talent and skill can also manipulate the Weave to perform magic by casting spells.




So, in Forgotten Realms, spells slots are some aspect of how the "Weave" is manipulated by characters or creatures with spellcasting ability. The details of how that exactly works is left to Mystra — the goddess of magic. In your example, your kenku mimic knows the sounds and motions, but does not know how to access the Weave.



I don't own the 5E Eberron material, but Keith Baker describes magic as being like a force of the universe where spellcasting is treated as a science (and slots are a consequence of the application of that science). In the post, Baker describes the possibility that magic missile was originally (in the fictitious history of the setting) a third-level spell but the application of research brought it down over time to a first level. This is less satisfying in the kenku mimic case, but... there it is.



In Dark Sun, magic draws from the lifeforce of living beings or of the planet itself. Again, spell-slots are the abstraction of how this works — and the kenku mimic is simply saying the words, not actually drawing that force.






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    The particular thing with "levels" seems very odd when trying to apply some sort of rationality to it, but, hey, electron shell energy levels in real-world physics kind of have the same thing.
    – mattdm
    20 hours ago










  • Likewise with charging capacitors
    – KorvinStarmast
    20 hours ago






  • 2




    I think a good source for ways to rationalize rules in fiction is going to the Forgotten Realms books, such as Elminster. Substitute with Dragonlance or whichever setting you use at the table.
    – ShadowTiger
    12 hours ago













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up vote
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This is setting-specific, which is why it is not spelled out in more detail in the rules and left as an abstraction. From Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide:




The Weave is an essential element of the universe, running through everything in unseen threads. Some creatures, objects, and locations have deep, intrinsic ties to the Weave and can perform extraordinary feats that come naturally to them (a beholder’s flight, a vampire’s charming gaze, a dragon’s breath weapon, and so forth). Creatures with the necessary talent and skill can also manipulate the Weave to perform magic by casting spells.




So, in Forgotten Realms, spells slots are some aspect of how the "Weave" is manipulated by characters or creatures with spellcasting ability. The details of how that exactly works is left to Mystra — the goddess of magic. In your example, your kenku mimic knows the sounds and motions, but does not know how to access the Weave.



I don't own the 5E Eberron material, but Keith Baker describes magic as being like a force of the universe where spellcasting is treated as a science (and slots are a consequence of the application of that science). In the post, Baker describes the possibility that magic missile was originally (in the fictitious history of the setting) a third-level spell but the application of research brought it down over time to a first level. This is less satisfying in the kenku mimic case, but... there it is.



In Dark Sun, magic draws from the lifeforce of living beings or of the planet itself. Again, spell-slots are the abstraction of how this works — and the kenku mimic is simply saying the words, not actually drawing that force.






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This is setting-specific, which is why it is not spelled out in more detail in the rules and left as an abstraction. From Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide:




The Weave is an essential element of the universe, running through everything in unseen threads. Some creatures, objects, and locations have deep, intrinsic ties to the Weave and can perform extraordinary feats that come naturally to them (a beholder’s flight, a vampire’s charming gaze, a dragon’s breath weapon, and so forth). Creatures with the necessary talent and skill can also manipulate the Weave to perform magic by casting spells.




So, in Forgotten Realms, spells slots are some aspect of how the "Weave" is manipulated by characters or creatures with spellcasting ability. The details of how that exactly works is left to Mystra — the goddess of magic. In your example, your kenku mimic knows the sounds and motions, but does not know how to access the Weave.



I don't own the 5E Eberron material, but Keith Baker describes magic as being like a force of the universe where spellcasting is treated as a science (and slots are a consequence of the application of that science). In the post, Baker describes the possibility that magic missile was originally (in the fictitious history of the setting) a third-level spell but the application of research brought it down over time to a first level. This is less satisfying in the kenku mimic case, but... there it is.



In Dark Sun, magic draws from the lifeforce of living beings or of the planet itself. Again, spell-slots are the abstraction of how this works — and the kenku mimic is simply saying the words, not actually drawing that force.







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    The particular thing with "levels" seems very odd when trying to apply some sort of rationality to it, but, hey, electron shell energy levels in real-world physics kind of have the same thing.
    – mattdm
    20 hours ago










  • Likewise with charging capacitors
    – KorvinStarmast
    20 hours ago






  • 2




    I think a good source for ways to rationalize rules in fiction is going to the Forgotten Realms books, such as Elminster. Substitute with Dragonlance or whichever setting you use at the table.
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    The particular thing with "levels" seems very odd when trying to apply some sort of rationality to it, but, hey, electron shell energy levels in real-world physics kind of have the same thing.
    – mattdm
    20 hours ago










  • Likewise with charging capacitors
    – KorvinStarmast
    20 hours ago






  • 2




    I think a good source for ways to rationalize rules in fiction is going to the Forgotten Realms books, such as Elminster. Substitute with Dragonlance or whichever setting you use at the table.
    – ShadowTiger
    12 hours ago








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The particular thing with "levels" seems very odd when trying to apply some sort of rationality to it, but, hey, electron shell energy levels in real-world physics kind of have the same thing.
– mattdm
20 hours ago




The particular thing with "levels" seems very odd when trying to apply some sort of rationality to it, but, hey, electron shell energy levels in real-world physics kind of have the same thing.
– mattdm
20 hours ago












Likewise with charging capacitors
– KorvinStarmast
20 hours ago




Likewise with charging capacitors
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20 hours ago




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I think a good source for ways to rationalize rules in fiction is going to the Forgotten Realms books, such as Elminster. Substitute with Dragonlance or whichever setting you use at the table.
– ShadowTiger
12 hours ago





I think a good source for ways to rationalize rules in fiction is going to the Forgotten Realms books, such as Elminster. Substitute with Dragonlance or whichever setting you use at the table.
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Mana



Each spell slot represents a set quantity of magical energy (commonly called Mana). Each spell requires the use of a set amount of a particular quality of Mana at the time of casting.



As a character gains experience, the available pool of Mana increases, and the number of spells that can be cast increases as a result.



The different levels of spell slots represent increasingly rich sources of Mana. Some spells have an increased effect when a richer Mana source is utilised for the casting (casting the spell at a different/higher level). Once again, as the character gains experience, increasingly rich sources become available.



The Kenku's lack of spellcasting ability can be explained by being unable to access a store of Mana. This may be a restriction based on profession, or possibly a hindrance suffered by the race as a whole. (I don't have any books to hand that might confirm or deny this, but I do remember Kenku being a playable race at one point, so professional limitation might be more accurate. As always, Rule 0 applies.)






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    Mana and its common use to fuel spells in, say, MtG, doesn't seem to jibe with D&D's notion of leveled slots--mana would seem to be a better model for the "spell points" variant in the DMG. Can you explain a bit more about this "richness" factor you see mana having and where in D&D publications this comes from?
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    22 hours ago






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    Is this your personal interpretation, or is this actually how the game describes the system? I've not actually looked into 5e yet but back in 3.X that was very clearly NOT the case - D&D was using Vancian casting as per the writings of Jack Vance. Each wizard has to prepare spells in advance and can only prepare so many every day. There is no mana, instead casting the spell releases it and it cannot be recast unless prepared another time (whether prepared twice or prepared the next day).
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  • @nitsua60. I confess that I've made this up and have no publication reference to give. Perhaps I should make that clear? Although the OP seemed to be unsatisfied with the explanation given in the published material, so I felt the improvisation justified. I saw the "richness" as similar to density or a subtly different form of Mana, such that the Mana of one spell level is not interchangeable with another.
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    22 hours ago






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    This answer would be a better answer to a question about spell points (which is a variant rule in D&D 5e) rather than the question about spell slots. Spell slots are not a mana pool; no way, now how. I've played both kinds of systems (and of course mana pools in computer games) and of all the analogies offered, this one is the least useful for an in universe explanation. See also previous edition D&D Psionics points for a spell point/mana system as you describe.
    – KorvinStarmast
    20 hours ago







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    If this is something you made up, the answer should say so. The default assumption here is that when an answers say “X is Y” it’s saying that it’s true, not a suggestion or new idea. This answer seems therefore to be saying that spell slots are canonically Mana in D&D. If you don’t want the answer to be understood that way, it needs to say something to avoid that understanding. An edit would help towards that.
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Mana



Each spell slot represents a set quantity of magical energy (commonly called Mana). Each spell requires the use of a set amount of a particular quality of Mana at the time of casting.



As a character gains experience, the available pool of Mana increases, and the number of spells that can be cast increases as a result.



The different levels of spell slots represent increasingly rich sources of Mana. Some spells have an increased effect when a richer Mana source is utilised for the casting (casting the spell at a different/higher level). Once again, as the character gains experience, increasingly rich sources become available.



The Kenku's lack of spellcasting ability can be explained by being unable to access a store of Mana. This may be a restriction based on profession, or possibly a hindrance suffered by the race as a whole. (I don't have any books to hand that might confirm or deny this, but I do remember Kenku being a playable race at one point, so professional limitation might be more accurate. As always, Rule 0 applies.)






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    Mana and its common use to fuel spells in, say, MtG, doesn't seem to jibe with D&D's notion of leveled slots--mana would seem to be a better model for the "spell points" variant in the DMG. Can you explain a bit more about this "richness" factor you see mana having and where in D&D publications this comes from?
    – nitsua60♦
    22 hours ago






  • 6




    Is this your personal interpretation, or is this actually how the game describes the system? I've not actually looked into 5e yet but back in 3.X that was very clearly NOT the case - D&D was using Vancian casting as per the writings of Jack Vance. Each wizard has to prepare spells in advance and can only prepare so many every day. There is no mana, instead casting the spell releases it and it cannot be recast unless prepared another time (whether prepared twice or prepared the next day).
    – vlaz
    22 hours ago










  • @nitsua60. I confess that I've made this up and have no publication reference to give. Perhaps I should make that clear? Although the OP seemed to be unsatisfied with the explanation given in the published material, so I felt the improvisation justified. I saw the "richness" as similar to density or a subtly different form of Mana, such that the Mana of one spell level is not interchangeable with another.
    – leather_monkey
    22 hours ago






  • 3




    This answer would be a better answer to a question about spell points (which is a variant rule in D&D 5e) rather than the question about spell slots. Spell slots are not a mana pool; no way, now how. I've played both kinds of systems (and of course mana pools in computer games) and of all the analogies offered, this one is the least useful for an in universe explanation. See also previous edition D&D Psionics points for a spell point/mana system as you describe.
    – KorvinStarmast
    20 hours ago







  • 4




    If this is something you made up, the answer should say so. The default assumption here is that when an answers say “X is Y” it’s saying that it’s true, not a suggestion or new idea. This answer seems therefore to be saying that spell slots are canonically Mana in D&D. If you don’t want the answer to be understood that way, it needs to say something to avoid that understanding. An edit would help towards that.
    – SevenSidedDie♦
    19 hours ago













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up vote
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Mana



Each spell slot represents a set quantity of magical energy (commonly called Mana). Each spell requires the use of a set amount of a particular quality of Mana at the time of casting.



As a character gains experience, the available pool of Mana increases, and the number of spells that can be cast increases as a result.



The different levels of spell slots represent increasingly rich sources of Mana. Some spells have an increased effect when a richer Mana source is utilised for the casting (casting the spell at a different/higher level). Once again, as the character gains experience, increasingly rich sources become available.



The Kenku's lack of spellcasting ability can be explained by being unable to access a store of Mana. This may be a restriction based on profession, or possibly a hindrance suffered by the race as a whole. (I don't have any books to hand that might confirm or deny this, but I do remember Kenku being a playable race at one point, so professional limitation might be more accurate. As always, Rule 0 applies.)






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Mana



Each spell slot represents a set quantity of magical energy (commonly called Mana). Each spell requires the use of a set amount of a particular quality of Mana at the time of casting.



As a character gains experience, the available pool of Mana increases, and the number of spells that can be cast increases as a result.



The different levels of spell slots represent increasingly rich sources of Mana. Some spells have an increased effect when a richer Mana source is utilised for the casting (casting the spell at a different/higher level). Once again, as the character gains experience, increasingly rich sources become available.



The Kenku's lack of spellcasting ability can be explained by being unable to access a store of Mana. This may be a restriction based on profession, or possibly a hindrance suffered by the race as a whole. (I don't have any books to hand that might confirm or deny this, but I do remember Kenku being a playable race at one point, so professional limitation might be more accurate. As always, Rule 0 applies.)







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    Mana and its common use to fuel spells in, say, MtG, doesn't seem to jibe with D&D's notion of leveled slots--mana would seem to be a better model for the "spell points" variant in the DMG. Can you explain a bit more about this "richness" factor you see mana having and where in D&D publications this comes from?
    – nitsua60♦
    22 hours ago






  • 6




    Is this your personal interpretation, or is this actually how the game describes the system? I've not actually looked into 5e yet but back in 3.X that was very clearly NOT the case - D&D was using Vancian casting as per the writings of Jack Vance. Each wizard has to prepare spells in advance and can only prepare so many every day. There is no mana, instead casting the spell releases it and it cannot be recast unless prepared another time (whether prepared twice or prepared the next day).
    – vlaz
    22 hours ago










  • @nitsua60. I confess that I've made this up and have no publication reference to give. Perhaps I should make that clear? Although the OP seemed to be unsatisfied with the explanation given in the published material, so I felt the improvisation justified. I saw the "richness" as similar to density or a subtly different form of Mana, such that the Mana of one spell level is not interchangeable with another.
    – leather_monkey
    22 hours ago






  • 3




    This answer would be a better answer to a question about spell points (which is a variant rule in D&D 5e) rather than the question about spell slots. Spell slots are not a mana pool; no way, now how. I've played both kinds of systems (and of course mana pools in computer games) and of all the analogies offered, this one is the least useful for an in universe explanation. See also previous edition D&D Psionics points for a spell point/mana system as you describe.
    – KorvinStarmast
    20 hours ago







  • 4




    If this is something you made up, the answer should say so. The default assumption here is that when an answers say “X is Y” it’s saying that it’s true, not a suggestion or new idea. This answer seems therefore to be saying that spell slots are canonically Mana in D&D. If you don’t want the answer to be understood that way, it needs to say something to avoid that understanding. An edit would help towards that.
    – SevenSidedDie♦
    19 hours ago













  • 2




    Mana and its common use to fuel spells in, say, MtG, doesn't seem to jibe with D&D's notion of leveled slots--mana would seem to be a better model for the "spell points" variant in the DMG. Can you explain a bit more about this "richness" factor you see mana having and where in D&D publications this comes from?
    – nitsua60♦
    22 hours ago






  • 6




    Is this your personal interpretation, or is this actually how the game describes the system? I've not actually looked into 5e yet but back in 3.X that was very clearly NOT the case - D&D was using Vancian casting as per the writings of Jack Vance. Each wizard has to prepare spells in advance and can only prepare so many every day. There is no mana, instead casting the spell releases it and it cannot be recast unless prepared another time (whether prepared twice or prepared the next day).
    – vlaz
    22 hours ago










  • @nitsua60. I confess that I've made this up and have no publication reference to give. Perhaps I should make that clear? Although the OP seemed to be unsatisfied with the explanation given in the published material, so I felt the improvisation justified. I saw the "richness" as similar to density or a subtly different form of Mana, such that the Mana of one spell level is not interchangeable with another.
    – leather_monkey
    22 hours ago






  • 3




    This answer would be a better answer to a question about spell points (which is a variant rule in D&D 5e) rather than the question about spell slots. Spell slots are not a mana pool; no way, now how. I've played both kinds of systems (and of course mana pools in computer games) and of all the analogies offered, this one is the least useful for an in universe explanation. See also previous edition D&D Psionics points for a spell point/mana system as you describe.
    – KorvinStarmast
    20 hours ago







  • 4




    If this is something you made up, the answer should say so. The default assumption here is that when an answers say “X is Y” it’s saying that it’s true, not a suggestion or new idea. This answer seems therefore to be saying that spell slots are canonically Mana in D&D. If you don’t want the answer to be understood that way, it needs to say something to avoid that understanding. An edit would help towards that.
    – SevenSidedDie♦
    19 hours ago








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Mana and its common use to fuel spells in, say, MtG, doesn't seem to jibe with D&D's notion of leveled slots--mana would seem to be a better model for the "spell points" variant in the DMG. Can you explain a bit more about this "richness" factor you see mana having and where in D&D publications this comes from?
– nitsua60♦
22 hours ago




Mana and its common use to fuel spells in, say, MtG, doesn't seem to jibe with D&D's notion of leveled slots--mana would seem to be a better model for the "spell points" variant in the DMG. Can you explain a bit more about this "richness" factor you see mana having and where in D&D publications this comes from?
– nitsua60♦
22 hours ago




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Is this your personal interpretation, or is this actually how the game describes the system? I've not actually looked into 5e yet but back in 3.X that was very clearly NOT the case - D&D was using Vancian casting as per the writings of Jack Vance. Each wizard has to prepare spells in advance and can only prepare so many every day. There is no mana, instead casting the spell releases it and it cannot be recast unless prepared another time (whether prepared twice or prepared the next day).
– vlaz
22 hours ago




Is this your personal interpretation, or is this actually how the game describes the system? I've not actually looked into 5e yet but back in 3.X that was very clearly NOT the case - D&D was using Vancian casting as per the writings of Jack Vance. Each wizard has to prepare spells in advance and can only prepare so many every day. There is no mana, instead casting the spell releases it and it cannot be recast unless prepared another time (whether prepared twice or prepared the next day).
– vlaz
22 hours ago












@nitsua60. I confess that I've made this up and have no publication reference to give. Perhaps I should make that clear? Although the OP seemed to be unsatisfied with the explanation given in the published material, so I felt the improvisation justified. I saw the "richness" as similar to density or a subtly different form of Mana, such that the Mana of one spell level is not interchangeable with another.
– leather_monkey
22 hours ago




@nitsua60. I confess that I've made this up and have no publication reference to give. Perhaps I should make that clear? Although the OP seemed to be unsatisfied with the explanation given in the published material, so I felt the improvisation justified. I saw the "richness" as similar to density or a subtly different form of Mana, such that the Mana of one spell level is not interchangeable with another.
– leather_monkey
22 hours ago




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This answer would be a better answer to a question about spell points (which is a variant rule in D&D 5e) rather than the question about spell slots. Spell slots are not a mana pool; no way, now how. I've played both kinds of systems (and of course mana pools in computer games) and of all the analogies offered, this one is the least useful for an in universe explanation. See also previous edition D&D Psionics points for a spell point/mana system as you describe.
– KorvinStarmast
20 hours ago





This answer would be a better answer to a question about spell points (which is a variant rule in D&D 5e) rather than the question about spell slots. Spell slots are not a mana pool; no way, now how. I've played both kinds of systems (and of course mana pools in computer games) and of all the analogies offered, this one is the least useful for an in universe explanation. See also previous edition D&D Psionics points for a spell point/mana system as you describe.
– KorvinStarmast
20 hours ago





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If this is something you made up, the answer should say so. The default assumption here is that when an answers say “X is Y” it’s saying that it’s true, not a suggestion or new idea. This answer seems therefore to be saying that spell slots are canonically Mana in D&D. If you don’t want the answer to be understood that way, it needs to say something to avoid that understanding. An edit would help towards that.
– SevenSidedDie♦
19 hours ago





If this is something you made up, the answer should say so. The default assumption here is that when an answers say “X is Y” it’s saying that it’s true, not a suggestion or new idea. This answer seems therefore to be saying that spell slots are canonically Mana in D&D. If you don’t want the answer to be understood that way, it needs to say something to avoid that understanding. An edit would help towards that.
– SevenSidedDie♦
19 hours ago






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