Radius of a circle touching a rectangle both of which are inside a square

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Given this configuration :



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We're given that the rectangle is of the dimensions 20 cm by 10 cm, and we have to find the radius of the circle.



If we somehow know the distance between the circle and the corner of the square then we can easily find the radius. (It's equal to $ sqrt2times R-R$)



I really can't understand how to solve it. Any help appreciated.










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    The information you have is $R(1-cosalpha) = 2a$ and $R(1-sinalpha) = a$, where $a = 10$. From there it follows that $R^2 = (R-2a)^2+(R-a)^2$.
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  • If you set the upper left corner to be the origin $O(0,0)$, then the center of this circle has coordinates $(R,-R)$, so the circle is given by the equation $(x-R)^2+(y+R)^2=R^2$. Now note that the circle contains the point $(20,-10)$, and calculate $R$ from this.
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Given this configuration :



enter image description here



We're given that the rectangle is of the dimensions 20 cm by 10 cm, and we have to find the radius of the circle.



If we somehow know the distance between the circle and the corner of the square then we can easily find the radius. (It's equal to $ sqrt2times R-R$)



I really can't understand how to solve it. Any help appreciated.










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  • This is fascinating, provided it is written correctly. At first it seems there is not enough information, but at the moment, I feel confident that there is. I will mess around with this.
    – The Count
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    The information you have is $R(1-cosalpha) = 2a$ and $R(1-sinalpha) = a$, where $a = 10$. From there it follows that $R^2 = (R-2a)^2+(R-a)^2$.
    – amsmath
    1 hour ago







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    @amsmath juuuusssssttt beat me to it. Nice!
    – The Count
    1 hour ago










  • If you set the upper left corner to be the origin $O(0,0)$, then the center of this circle has coordinates $(R,-R)$, so the circle is given by the equation $(x-R)^2+(y+R)^2=R^2$. Now note that the circle contains the point $(20,-10)$, and calculate $R$ from this.
    – SMM
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  • @SMM I deleted my comment because I saw that you had another approach (which I actually like more).
    – amsmath
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Given this configuration :



enter image description here



We're given that the rectangle is of the dimensions 20 cm by 10 cm, and we have to find the radius of the circle.



If we somehow know the distance between the circle and the corner of the square then we can easily find the radius. (It's equal to $ sqrt2times R-R$)



I really can't understand how to solve it. Any help appreciated.










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Given this configuration :



enter image description here



We're given that the rectangle is of the dimensions 20 cm by 10 cm, and we have to find the radius of the circle.



If we somehow know the distance between the circle and the corner of the square then we can easily find the radius. (It's equal to $ sqrt2times R-R$)



I really can't understand how to solve it. Any help appreciated.







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  • This is fascinating, provided it is written correctly. At first it seems there is not enough information, but at the moment, I feel confident that there is. I will mess around with this.
    – The Count
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    The information you have is $R(1-cosalpha) = 2a$ and $R(1-sinalpha) = a$, where $a = 10$. From there it follows that $R^2 = (R-2a)^2+(R-a)^2$.
    – amsmath
    1 hour ago







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    @amsmath juuuusssssttt beat me to it. Nice!
    – The Count
    1 hour ago










  • If you set the upper left corner to be the origin $O(0,0)$, then the center of this circle has coordinates $(R,-R)$, so the circle is given by the equation $(x-R)^2+(y+R)^2=R^2$. Now note that the circle contains the point $(20,-10)$, and calculate $R$ from this.
    – SMM
    1 hour ago











  • @SMM I deleted my comment because I saw that you had another approach (which I actually like more).
    – amsmath
    1 hour ago
















  • This is fascinating, provided it is written correctly. At first it seems there is not enough information, but at the moment, I feel confident that there is. I will mess around with this.
    – The Count
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    The information you have is $R(1-cosalpha) = 2a$ and $R(1-sinalpha) = a$, where $a = 10$. From there it follows that $R^2 = (R-2a)^2+(R-a)^2$.
    – amsmath
    1 hour ago







  • 1




    @amsmath juuuusssssttt beat me to it. Nice!
    – The Count
    1 hour ago










  • If you set the upper left corner to be the origin $O(0,0)$, then the center of this circle has coordinates $(R,-R)$, so the circle is given by the equation $(x-R)^2+(y+R)^2=R^2$. Now note that the circle contains the point $(20,-10)$, and calculate $R$ from this.
    – SMM
    1 hour ago











  • @SMM I deleted my comment because I saw that you had another approach (which I actually like more).
    – amsmath
    1 hour ago















This is fascinating, provided it is written correctly. At first it seems there is not enough information, but at the moment, I feel confident that there is. I will mess around with this.
– The Count
1 hour ago




This is fascinating, provided it is written correctly. At first it seems there is not enough information, but at the moment, I feel confident that there is. I will mess around with this.
– The Count
1 hour ago




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The information you have is $R(1-cosalpha) = 2a$ and $R(1-sinalpha) = a$, where $a = 10$. From there it follows that $R^2 = (R-2a)^2+(R-a)^2$.
– amsmath
1 hour ago





The information you have is $R(1-cosalpha) = 2a$ and $R(1-sinalpha) = a$, where $a = 10$. From there it follows that $R^2 = (R-2a)^2+(R-a)^2$.
– amsmath
1 hour ago





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@amsmath juuuusssssttt beat me to it. Nice!
– The Count
1 hour ago




@amsmath juuuusssssttt beat me to it. Nice!
– The Count
1 hour ago












If you set the upper left corner to be the origin $O(0,0)$, then the center of this circle has coordinates $(R,-R)$, so the circle is given by the equation $(x-R)^2+(y+R)^2=R^2$. Now note that the circle contains the point $(20,-10)$, and calculate $R$ from this.
– SMM
1 hour ago





If you set the upper left corner to be the origin $O(0,0)$, then the center of this circle has coordinates $(R,-R)$, so the circle is given by the equation $(x-R)^2+(y+R)^2=R^2$. Now note that the circle contains the point $(20,-10)$, and calculate $R$ from this.
– SMM
1 hour ago













@SMM I deleted my comment because I saw that you had another approach (which I actually like more).
– amsmath
1 hour ago




@SMM I deleted my comment because I saw that you had another approach (which I actually like more).
– amsmath
1 hour ago










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It is just using the pythagorean theorem:
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    Place the center of the cricle at $O.$



    Let the radius be $R$



    The corner of the square is $(R,R)$ I have made a small alteration to the picture to create fewer negative numbers.



    Offsetting by the rectange, the corer of the rectangle is $(R-20, R-10)$



    And the distance from this point equals the $R.$



    That should put you on your way to the solution.






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      $(x, y) = (R-20, R-10)$ as a point on the circle $y = sqrtR^2 - x^2$



      $R - 10 = sqrtR^2 - (R-20)^2$



      $(R- 10)^2 = R^2 - (R-20)^2$



      $R^2 - 20R + 100 = R^2 - (R^2 - 40R + 400)$



      $R^2 - 60R + 500 = 0$



      $(R - 50)(R-10) = 0$



      $R = 50$ is the only sensible option.






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        It is just using the pythagorean theorem:
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            It is just using the pythagorean theorem:
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            It is just using the pythagorean theorem:
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                Place the center of the cricle at $O.$



                Let the radius be $R$



                The corner of the square is $(R,R)$ I have made a small alteration to the picture to create fewer negative numbers.



                Offsetting by the rectange, the corer of the rectangle is $(R-20, R-10)$



                And the distance from this point equals the $R.$



                That should put you on your way to the solution.






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                  Place the center of the cricle at $O.$



                  Let the radius be $R$



                  The corner of the square is $(R,R)$ I have made a small alteration to the picture to create fewer negative numbers.



                  Offsetting by the rectange, the corer of the rectangle is $(R-20, R-10)$



                  And the distance from this point equals the $R.$



                  That should put you on your way to the solution.






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                    up vote
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                    Place the center of the cricle at $O.$



                    Let the radius be $R$



                    The corner of the square is $(R,R)$ I have made a small alteration to the picture to create fewer negative numbers.



                    Offsetting by the rectange, the corer of the rectangle is $(R-20, R-10)$



                    And the distance from this point equals the $R.$



                    That should put you on your way to the solution.






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                    Place the center of the cricle at $O.$



                    Let the radius be $R$



                    The corner of the square is $(R,R)$ I have made a small alteration to the picture to create fewer negative numbers.



                    Offsetting by the rectange, the corer of the rectangle is $(R-20, R-10)$



                    And the distance from this point equals the $R.$



                    That should put you on your way to the solution.







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                        $(x, y) = (R-20, R-10)$ as a point on the circle $y = sqrtR^2 - x^2$



                        $R - 10 = sqrtR^2 - (R-20)^2$



                        $(R- 10)^2 = R^2 - (R-20)^2$



                        $R^2 - 20R + 100 = R^2 - (R^2 - 40R + 400)$



                        $R^2 - 60R + 500 = 0$



                        $(R - 50)(R-10) = 0$



                        $R = 50$ is the only sensible option.






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                          $(x, y) = (R-20, R-10)$ as a point on the circle $y = sqrtR^2 - x^2$



                          $R - 10 = sqrtR^2 - (R-20)^2$



                          $(R- 10)^2 = R^2 - (R-20)^2$



                          $R^2 - 20R + 100 = R^2 - (R^2 - 40R + 400)$



                          $R^2 - 60R + 500 = 0$



                          $(R - 50)(R-10) = 0$



                          $R = 50$ is the only sensible option.






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                            $(x, y) = (R-20, R-10)$ as a point on the circle $y = sqrtR^2 - x^2$



                            $R - 10 = sqrtR^2 - (R-20)^2$



                            $(R- 10)^2 = R^2 - (R-20)^2$



                            $R^2 - 20R + 100 = R^2 - (R^2 - 40R + 400)$



                            $R^2 - 60R + 500 = 0$



                            $(R - 50)(R-10) = 0$



                            $R = 50$ is the only sensible option.






                            share|cite|improve this answer












                            $(x, y) = (R-20, R-10)$ as a point on the circle $y = sqrtR^2 - x^2$



                            $R - 10 = sqrtR^2 - (R-20)^2$



                            $(R- 10)^2 = R^2 - (R-20)^2$



                            $R^2 - 20R + 100 = R^2 - (R^2 - 40R + 400)$



                            $R^2 - 60R + 500 = 0$



                            $(R - 50)(R-10) = 0$



                            $R = 50$ is the only sensible option.







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