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Why are cambions unable to reproduce amongst each other?
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There is an ancient, satanical practice that is performed in this society called the sabbatical. This ritual takes the form of a festival, in which witches get together and discuss recent events, spells, and other business. It concludes with a ritual that summons a number of demons from hell to take part of the festivities and fornication with the witches. The result of this night of passion is a cambion.
A cambion is a demon/human hybrid with magical abilities. They can be male or female and make up the population of witches and warlocks in this society. Because of their demon blood, they are unable to reproduce with normal humans. However, they are also unable to reproduce with each other, effectively making then sterile. This forces them to have to repeat this ritual every generation to increase their numbers. Why would this be the case?
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There is an ancient, satanical practice that is performed in this society called the sabbatical. This ritual takes the form of a festival, in which witches get together and discuss recent events, spells, and other business. It concludes with a ritual that summons a number of demons from hell to take part of the festivities and fornication with the witches. The result of this night of passion is a cambion.
A cambion is a demon/human hybrid with magical abilities. They can be male or female and make up the population of witches and warlocks in this society. Because of their demon blood, they are unable to reproduce with normal humans. However, they are also unable to reproduce with each other, effectively making then sterile. This forces them to have to repeat this ritual every generation to increase their numbers. Why would this be the case?
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Hi Incognito - can you clarify something, please? When I initially read this question, I thought the witches involved in the ritual were fully human. But this bit of your question: "They can be male or female and make up the population of witches and warlocks in this society." ...implies that the witches involved are, in fact, cambions. Is this correct?
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There is an ancient, satanical practice that is performed in this society called the sabbatical. This ritual takes the form of a festival, in which witches get together and discuss recent events, spells, and other business. It concludes with a ritual that summons a number of demons from hell to take part of the festivities and fornication with the witches. The result of this night of passion is a cambion.
A cambion is a demon/human hybrid with magical abilities. They can be male or female and make up the population of witches and warlocks in this society. Because of their demon blood, they are unable to reproduce with normal humans. However, they are also unable to reproduce with each other, effectively making then sterile. This forces them to have to repeat this ritual every generation to increase their numbers. Why would this be the case?
society reproduction
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Incognito
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There is an ancient, satanical practice that is performed in this society called the sabbatical. This ritual takes the form of a festival, in which witches get together and discuss recent events, spells, and other business. It concludes with a ritual that summons a number of demons from hell to take part of the festivities and fornication with the witches. The result of this night of passion is a cambion.
A cambion is a demon/human hybrid with magical abilities. They can be male or female and make up the population of witches and warlocks in this society. Because of their demon blood, they are unable to reproduce with normal humans. However, they are also unable to reproduce with each other, effectively making then sterile. This forces them to have to repeat this ritual every generation to increase their numbers. Why would this be the case?
society reproduction
society reproduction
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asked 3 hours ago
Incognito
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Incognito
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asked 3 hours ago
Incognito
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asked 3 hours ago
Incognito
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Hi Incognito - can you clarify something, please? When I initially read this question, I thought the witches involved in the ritual were fully human. But this bit of your question: "They can be male or female and make up the population of witches and warlocks in this society." ...implies that the witches involved are, in fact, cambions. Is this correct?
– Qami
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Hi Incognito - can you clarify something, please? When I initially read this question, I thought the witches involved in the ritual were fully human. But this bit of your question: "They can be male or female and make up the population of witches and warlocks in this society." ...implies that the witches involved are, in fact, cambions. Is this correct?
– Qami
34 mins ago
Hi Incognito - can you clarify something, please? When I initially read this question, I thought the witches involved in the ritual were fully human. But this bit of your question: "They can be male or female and make up the population of witches and warlocks in this society." ...implies that the witches involved are, in fact, cambions. Is this correct?
– Qami
34 mins ago
Hi Incognito - can you clarify something, please? When I initially read this question, I thought the witches involved in the ritual were fully human. But this bit of your question: "They can be male or female and make up the population of witches and warlocks in this society." ...implies that the witches involved are, in fact, cambions. Is this correct?
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They have a mismatched number of chromosomes from their father/mother.
This is already the situation with mules:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mule#Fertility
Mules and hinnies (female mules) have 63 chromosomes, a mixture of the
horse's 64 and the donkey's 62. The different structure and number
usually prevents the chromosomes from pairing up properly and creating
successful embryos, rendering most mules infertile.
Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes, so your cambion inherits 23 chromosomes from its mother. Give the demon a very different number of chromosome pairs...say 66. Now your cambion has 89 chromosomes; many of which have no proper pairing.
I don't know if we have any mathematical models for predicting the chances of two cambions successfully reproducing given this situation, but if 1 chromosome difference is enough for mule offspring to be so rare, it seems like only a tiny bit of hand-waving to call it impossible for a cambion with a much larger difference between their paternal and maternal chromosome sets. (Most of the hand-waving would probably be that a cambion would be viable in the first place.)
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Qami
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Once again you nicked my first thought for an answer. +1
– Joe Bloggs
2 hours ago
I'll try to leave some questions for you! ;)
– Qami
2 hours ago
I wouldn’t sweat it, answer away!
– Joe Bloggs
2 hours ago
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This doesn't work, since the witches are themselves Cambions and this would mean they have a chromosomal mismatch with the demons as well.
– A Simmons
1 hour ago
@ASimmons - I think you may be right! I missed that detail. I'll ask the author for clarification.
– Qami
37 mins ago
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Humans are blessed by some sort of god, granting them the ability to generate new life.
Demons have the dark ability of creating new life, too, mocking the god's ability.
Witches and warlords don't have any creative ability, and since they have demon blood they cannot rely on god's help.
Therefore the only option is to mate with a demon and let the demon half do the creative part.
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Magic? You are talking about a creature that exists as a half-daemon as the result of a human reproducing with a daemon. Maybe these Cambions can't harness the same level of energy required to produce a daemon seed. Or perhaps the Cambions are not born of Human Mothers. Maybe the only way a Cambion can be born is by Daemon mothers.
I suppose this does not answer the specific question of why can't Cambions reproduce at all? I would be interested in the premise where they can reproduce but their offspring would be human and devoid of the daemon magics. Though this could alter the entire premise of the setting. Maybe the satanic society intentionally sterilizes all of the Cambion babies and it is a huge secret to prevent the Cambions from realizing offspring (to maintain control, or something?).
It could be as simple as the half daemon part of them mutates their biology to not resemble a humans. Maybe their reproductive organs don't work or they don't have them 'per say' in the way normal humans have them.
Just spit-balling here. If your world is more magical I say lean into the magic. If your world has a strong science aspect where daemon magic can be studied and understood by science then I would say lean into that.
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They have a mismatched number of chromosomes from their father/mother.
This is already the situation with mules:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mule#Fertility
Mules and hinnies (female mules) have 63 chromosomes, a mixture of the
horse's 64 and the donkey's 62. The different structure and number
usually prevents the chromosomes from pairing up properly and creating
successful embryos, rendering most mules infertile.
Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes, so your cambion inherits 23 chromosomes from its mother. Give the demon a very different number of chromosome pairs...say 66. Now your cambion has 89 chromosomes; many of which have no proper pairing.
I don't know if we have any mathematical models for predicting the chances of two cambions successfully reproducing given this situation, but if 1 chromosome difference is enough for mule offspring to be so rare, it seems like only a tiny bit of hand-waving to call it impossible for a cambion with a much larger difference between their paternal and maternal chromosome sets. (Most of the hand-waving would probably be that a cambion would be viable in the first place.)
answered 2 hours ago
Qami
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Once again you nicked my first thought for an answer. +1
– Joe Bloggs
2 hours ago
I'll try to leave some questions for you! ;)
– Qami
2 hours ago
I wouldn’t sweat it, answer away!
– Joe Bloggs
2 hours ago
1
This doesn't work, since the witches are themselves Cambions and this would mean they have a chromosomal mismatch with the demons as well.
– A Simmons
1 hour ago
@ASimmons - I think you may be right! I missed that detail. I'll ask the author for clarification.
– Qami
37 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
10
down vote
They have a mismatched number of chromosomes from their father/mother.
This is already the situation with mules:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mule#Fertility
Mules and hinnies (female mules) have 63 chromosomes, a mixture of the
horse's 64 and the donkey's 62. The different structure and number
usually prevents the chromosomes from pairing up properly and creating
successful embryos, rendering most mules infertile.
Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes, so your cambion inherits 23 chromosomes from its mother. Give the demon a very different number of chromosome pairs...say 66. Now your cambion has 89 chromosomes; many of which have no proper pairing.
I don't know if we have any mathematical models for predicting the chances of two cambions successfully reproducing given this situation, but if 1 chromosome difference is enough for mule offspring to be so rare, it seems like only a tiny bit of hand-waving to call it impossible for a cambion with a much larger difference between their paternal and maternal chromosome sets. (Most of the hand-waving would probably be that a cambion would be viable in the first place.)
answered 2 hours ago
Qami
1,092112
2
Once again you nicked my first thought for an answer. +1
– Joe Bloggs
2 hours ago
I'll try to leave some questions for you! ;)
– Qami
2 hours ago
I wouldn’t sweat it, answer away!
– Joe Bloggs
2 hours ago
1
This doesn't work, since the witches are themselves Cambions and this would mean they have a chromosomal mismatch with the demons as well.
– A Simmons
1 hour ago
@ASimmons - I think you may be right! I missed that detail. I'll ask the author for clarification.
– Qami
37 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
10
down vote
up vote
10
down vote
They have a mismatched number of chromosomes from their father/mother.
This is already the situation with mules:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mule#Fertility
Mules and hinnies (female mules) have 63 chromosomes, a mixture of the
horse's 64 and the donkey's 62. The different structure and number
usually prevents the chromosomes from pairing up properly and creating
successful embryos, rendering most mules infertile.
Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes, so your cambion inherits 23 chromosomes from its mother. Give the demon a very different number of chromosome pairs...say 66. Now your cambion has 89 chromosomes; many of which have no proper pairing.
I don't know if we have any mathematical models for predicting the chances of two cambions successfully reproducing given this situation, but if 1 chromosome difference is enough for mule offspring to be so rare, it seems like only a tiny bit of hand-waving to call it impossible for a cambion with a much larger difference between their paternal and maternal chromosome sets. (Most of the hand-waving would probably be that a cambion would be viable in the first place.)
answered 2 hours ago
Qami
1,092112
They have a mismatched number of chromosomes from their father/mother.
This is already the situation with mules:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mule#Fertility
Mules and hinnies (female mules) have 63 chromosomes, a mixture of the
horse's 64 and the donkey's 62. The different structure and number
usually prevents the chromosomes from pairing up properly and creating
successful embryos, rendering most mules infertile.
Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes, so your cambion inherits 23 chromosomes from its mother. Give the demon a very different number of chromosome pairs...say 66. Now your cambion has 89 chromosomes; many of which have no proper pairing.
I don't know if we have any mathematical models for predicting the chances of two cambions successfully reproducing given this situation, but if 1 chromosome difference is enough for mule offspring to be so rare, it seems like only a tiny bit of hand-waving to call it impossible for a cambion with a much larger difference between their paternal and maternal chromosome sets. (Most of the hand-waving would probably be that a cambion would be viable in the first place.)
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Qami
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Qami
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Once again you nicked my first thought for an answer. +1
– Joe Bloggs
2 hours ago
I'll try to leave some questions for you! ;)
– Qami
2 hours ago
I wouldn’t sweat it, answer away!
– Joe Bloggs
2 hours ago
1
This doesn't work, since the witches are themselves Cambions and this would mean they have a chromosomal mismatch with the demons as well.
– A Simmons
1 hour ago
@ASimmons - I think you may be right! I missed that detail. I'll ask the author for clarification.
– Qami
37 mins ago
add a comment |Â
2
Once again you nicked my first thought for an answer. +1
– Joe Bloggs
2 hours ago
I'll try to leave some questions for you! ;)
– Qami
2 hours ago
I wouldn’t sweat it, answer away!
– Joe Bloggs
2 hours ago
1
This doesn't work, since the witches are themselves Cambions and this would mean they have a chromosomal mismatch with the demons as well.
– A Simmons
1 hour ago
@ASimmons - I think you may be right! I missed that detail. I'll ask the author for clarification.
– Qami
37 mins ago
2
2
Once again you nicked my first thought for an answer. +1
– Joe Bloggs
2 hours ago
Once again you nicked my first thought for an answer. +1
– Joe Bloggs
2 hours ago
I'll try to leave some questions for you! ;)
– Qami
2 hours ago
I'll try to leave some questions for you! ;)
– Qami
2 hours ago
I wouldn’t sweat it, answer away!
– Joe Bloggs
2 hours ago
I wouldn’t sweat it, answer away!
– Joe Bloggs
2 hours ago
1
1
This doesn't work, since the witches are themselves Cambions and this would mean they have a chromosomal mismatch with the demons as well.
– A Simmons
1 hour ago
This doesn't work, since the witches are themselves Cambions and this would mean they have a chromosomal mismatch with the demons as well.
– A Simmons
1 hour ago
@ASimmons - I think you may be right! I missed that detail. I'll ask the author for clarification.
– Qami
37 mins ago
@ASimmons - I think you may be right! I missed that detail. I'll ask the author for clarification.
– Qami
37 mins ago
add a comment |Â
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1
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Humans are blessed by some sort of god, granting them the ability to generate new life.
Demons have the dark ability of creating new life, too, mocking the god's ability.
Witches and warlords don't have any creative ability, and since they have demon blood they cannot rely on god's help.
Therefore the only option is to mate with a demon and let the demon half do the creative part.
answered 1 hour ago
L.Dutch♦
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Humans are blessed by some sort of god, granting them the ability to generate new life.
Demons have the dark ability of creating new life, too, mocking the god's ability.
Witches and warlords don't have any creative ability, and since they have demon blood they cannot rely on god's help.
Therefore the only option is to mate with a demon and let the demon half do the creative part.
answered 1 hour ago
L.Dutch♦
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up vote
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Humans are blessed by some sort of god, granting them the ability to generate new life.
Demons have the dark ability of creating new life, too, mocking the god's ability.
Witches and warlords don't have any creative ability, and since they have demon blood they cannot rely on god's help.
Therefore the only option is to mate with a demon and let the demon half do the creative part.
answered 1 hour ago
L.Dutch♦
62.2k18144291
Humans are blessed by some sort of god, granting them the ability to generate new life.
Demons have the dark ability of creating new life, too, mocking the god's ability.
Witches and warlords don't have any creative ability, and since they have demon blood they cannot rely on god's help.
Therefore the only option is to mate with a demon and let the demon half do the creative part.
answered 1 hour ago
L.Dutch♦
62.2k18144291
answered 1 hour ago
L.Dutch♦
62.2k18144291
answered 1 hour ago
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answered 1 hour ago
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Magic? You are talking about a creature that exists as a half-daemon as the result of a human reproducing with a daemon. Maybe these Cambions can't harness the same level of energy required to produce a daemon seed. Or perhaps the Cambions are not born of Human Mothers. Maybe the only way a Cambion can be born is by Daemon mothers.
I suppose this does not answer the specific question of why can't Cambions reproduce at all? I would be interested in the premise where they can reproduce but their offspring would be human and devoid of the daemon magics. Though this could alter the entire premise of the setting. Maybe the satanic society intentionally sterilizes all of the Cambion babies and it is a huge secret to prevent the Cambions from realizing offspring (to maintain control, or something?).
It could be as simple as the half daemon part of them mutates their biology to not resemble a humans. Maybe their reproductive organs don't work or they don't have them 'per say' in the way normal humans have them.
Just spit-balling here. If your world is more magical I say lean into the magic. If your world has a strong science aspect where daemon magic can be studied and understood by science then I would say lean into that.
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Magic? You are talking about a creature that exists as a half-daemon as the result of a human reproducing with a daemon. Maybe these Cambions can't harness the same level of energy required to produce a daemon seed. Or perhaps the Cambions are not born of Human Mothers. Maybe the only way a Cambion can be born is by Daemon mothers.
I suppose this does not answer the specific question of why can't Cambions reproduce at all? I would be interested in the premise where they can reproduce but their offspring would be human and devoid of the daemon magics. Though this could alter the entire premise of the setting. Maybe the satanic society intentionally sterilizes all of the Cambion babies and it is a huge secret to prevent the Cambions from realizing offspring (to maintain control, or something?).
It could be as simple as the half daemon part of them mutates their biology to not resemble a humans. Maybe their reproductive organs don't work or they don't have them 'per say' in the way normal humans have them.
Just spit-balling here. If your world is more magical I say lean into the magic. If your world has a strong science aspect where daemon magic can be studied and understood by science then I would say lean into that.
answered 1 hour ago
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Magic? You are talking about a creature that exists as a half-daemon as the result of a human reproducing with a daemon. Maybe these Cambions can't harness the same level of energy required to produce a daemon seed. Or perhaps the Cambions are not born of Human Mothers. Maybe the only way a Cambion can be born is by Daemon mothers.
I suppose this does not answer the specific question of why can't Cambions reproduce at all? I would be interested in the premise where they can reproduce but their offspring would be human and devoid of the daemon magics. Though this could alter the entire premise of the setting. Maybe the satanic society intentionally sterilizes all of the Cambion babies and it is a huge secret to prevent the Cambions from realizing offspring (to maintain control, or something?).
It could be as simple as the half daemon part of them mutates their biology to not resemble a humans. Maybe their reproductive organs don't work or they don't have them 'per say' in the way normal humans have them.
Just spit-balling here. If your world is more magical I say lean into the magic. If your world has a strong science aspect where daemon magic can be studied and understood by science then I would say lean into that.
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Magic? You are talking about a creature that exists as a half-daemon as the result of a human reproducing with a daemon. Maybe these Cambions can't harness the same level of energy required to produce a daemon seed. Or perhaps the Cambions are not born of Human Mothers. Maybe the only way a Cambion can be born is by Daemon mothers.
I suppose this does not answer the specific question of why can't Cambions reproduce at all? I would be interested in the premise where they can reproduce but their offspring would be human and devoid of the daemon magics. Though this could alter the entire premise of the setting. Maybe the satanic society intentionally sterilizes all of the Cambion babies and it is a huge secret to prevent the Cambions from realizing offspring (to maintain control, or something?).
It could be as simple as the half daemon part of them mutates their biology to not resemble a humans. Maybe their reproductive organs don't work or they don't have them 'per say' in the way normal humans have them.
Just spit-balling here. If your world is more magical I say lean into the magic. If your world has a strong science aspect where daemon magic can be studied and understood by science then I would say lean into that.
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Hi Incognito - can you clarify something, please? When I initially read this question, I thought the witches involved in the ritual were fully human. But this bit of your question: "They can be male or female and make up the population of witches and warlocks in this society." ...implies that the witches involved are, in fact, cambions. Is this correct?
– Qami
34 mins ago