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I applied for a visiting visa (priority) from Japan (where I currently live and work) to the UK for 5 days and it got it denied under provisions 4.2 (a, c, e). I am Ukrainian and before coming to the UK to visit my boyfriend, I planned on visiting my home country and departing directly from there.
The refusal letter says:
The decision
I have refused your application for a visit visa because I am not satisfied that you meet the requirements of paragraph(s) V4.2 of Appendix V: Immigration Rules for Visitors because:
- You have applied for a leave to enter to visit the UK for 5 days for tourism.
- In order to be able to make a decision on whether or not to grant you entry clearance in this category I have taken into account your stated circumstances in Japan, the reasons for your visit, and your proposed travel arrangements. You have declared that you are employed as a Business operations manager and that you earn 1745.00 GBP per month from all sources of employment after tax.
- In support of your application you have submitted a letter from [redacted]. You also submit an additional bank certification which shows a balance dated 2018.9.14. Bank letters only show the balance of an account on one day and do not show the financial commitment of an applicant nor do they show the source of any funds in an account. In the absence of evidence as to the source of these funds I cannot be satisfied that this bank statement is a true reflection of your current financial circumstances and that these funds will remain genuinely available to you for your exclusive use for the duration of your trip.
- I must take into account your personal and economic circumstances when coming to my decision. On the evidence provided I am not satisfied that you have established that your circumstances are as stated and that your economic ties to Japan have been demonstrated to ensure you intend a genuine visit or that you would seek to leave the UK at the end of the limited period stated by you. I am therefore not satisfied that you meet the requirements of Paragraph 4.2 (a) and (c) Nor am I satisfied that the statement presented represents a true reflection of your financial circumstances and that the funds seen will be available to you as stated 4.2 (e)
Future applications
Any future UK visa applications you make will be considered on their individual merits; however, you are likely to be refused unless the circumstances of your application change.
In relation to this decision there is no right of appeal or right to administrative review.
The documents I provided:
- my personal information and my boyfriend’s information, showing that he has a UK student visa;
- boyfriend’s invitation letter and explanation of our relationship (how he knows me, how long we have been together and who I am for him);
- proof of my residence in Japan (a rent contract) and my partner’s residence in the UK (his rent contract);
- my bank certificate with 2700£;
- pay-slips showing my monthly earnings of 1750£ (after tax) and one pay-slip with a bonus stated (monthly total: 3500£);
- employment certificate from January 2017 to June 2021 (when my Japanese work visa is expiring);
- letter of leave from work;
- tour plan;
- bought tickets to Ukraine and to Japan (from the 8th of October and to the 29th of October) and booked tickets for the UK (18th-22nd of October);
The thing that I planned on attaching to my application were my bank statements. I have applied to get them, but my bank (now over 3 weeks) still hasn’t sent them to me, this is why I applied without them. Which I absolutely understand the reason for visa denial.
Since I do not have time to apply from Japan, I plan on applying from Ukraine.
My question: since I doubt I will get my bank statements till then, I thought about stating my uncle as my sponsor, who has sufficient funds and bank statements. This is the quickest way to get the document that seems to be the reason of my denial.
Obviously I plan on explaining why I cannot provide my own bank statements.
Can anyone help me understand if this is a good way to go around this? Is what I plan on doing increase my chances of getting the visa? If so - what kind of documents do I need to show from my uncles side?
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I applied for a visiting visa (priority) from Japan (where I currently live and work) to the UK for 5 days and it got it denied under provisions 4.2 (a, c, e). I am Ukrainian and before coming to the UK to visit my boyfriend, I planned on visiting my home country and departing directly from there.
The refusal letter says:
The decision
I have refused your application for a visit visa because I am not satisfied that you meet the requirements of paragraph(s) V4.2 of Appendix V: Immigration Rules for Visitors because:
- You have applied for a leave to enter to visit the UK for 5 days for tourism.
- In order to be able to make a decision on whether or not to grant you entry clearance in this category I have taken into account your stated circumstances in Japan, the reasons for your visit, and your proposed travel arrangements. You have declared that you are employed as a Business operations manager and that you earn 1745.00 GBP per month from all sources of employment after tax.
- In support of your application you have submitted a letter from [redacted]. You also submit an additional bank certification which shows a balance dated 2018.9.14. Bank letters only show the balance of an account on one day and do not show the financial commitment of an applicant nor do they show the source of any funds in an account. In the absence of evidence as to the source of these funds I cannot be satisfied that this bank statement is a true reflection of your current financial circumstances and that these funds will remain genuinely available to you for your exclusive use for the duration of your trip.
- I must take into account your personal and economic circumstances when coming to my decision. On the evidence provided I am not satisfied that you have established that your circumstances are as stated and that your economic ties to Japan have been demonstrated to ensure you intend a genuine visit or that you would seek to leave the UK at the end of the limited period stated by you. I am therefore not satisfied that you meet the requirements of Paragraph 4.2 (a) and (c) Nor am I satisfied that the statement presented represents a true reflection of your financial circumstances and that the funds seen will be available to you as stated 4.2 (e)
Future applications
Any future UK visa applications you make will be considered on their individual merits; however, you are likely to be refused unless the circumstances of your application change.
In relation to this decision there is no right of appeal or right to administrative review.
The documents I provided:
- my personal information and my boyfriend’s information, showing that he has a UK student visa;
- boyfriend’s invitation letter and explanation of our relationship (how he knows me, how long we have been together and who I am for him);
- proof of my residence in Japan (a rent contract) and my partner’s residence in the UK (his rent contract);
- my bank certificate with 2700£;
- pay-slips showing my monthly earnings of 1750£ (after tax) and one pay-slip with a bonus stated (monthly total: 3500£);
- employment certificate from January 2017 to June 2021 (when my Japanese work visa is expiring);
- letter of leave from work;
- tour plan;
- bought tickets to Ukraine and to Japan (from the 8th of October and to the 29th of October) and booked tickets for the UK (18th-22nd of October);
The thing that I planned on attaching to my application were my bank statements. I have applied to get them, but my bank (now over 3 weeks) still hasn’t sent them to me, this is why I applied without them. Which I absolutely understand the reason for visa denial.
Since I do not have time to apply from Japan, I plan on applying from Ukraine.
My question: since I doubt I will get my bank statements till then, I thought about stating my uncle as my sponsor, who has sufficient funds and bank statements. This is the quickest way to get the document that seems to be the reason of my denial.
Obviously I plan on explaining why I cannot provide my own bank statements.
Can anyone help me understand if this is a good way to go around this? Is what I plan on doing increase my chances of getting the visa? If so - what kind of documents do I need to show from my uncles side?
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Thank you both for the reply! I might be able to get the statements in a few days, but, when reapplying, the bank statements will indicate, that it covers a period from January till the start of September. But I will already be applying in October. Would that be a problem? Because it will be impossible for me to provide them till then, given that I will be reapplying from Ukraine.
– Anna D
yesterday
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Please see this excellent question/answer for background information about why you should provide your bank statements and what they are looking for in those statememts.
– RedBaron
yesterday
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Does your bank allow you to access your account online? You might be able to print statements. Or perhaps visiting a branch and asking for the statements to be given to you immediately could speed up the process.
– Zach Lipton
yesterday
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Also, my bank doesn’t allow me to access my transactions online. I asked them to print them in front of me the same day, but they explained, that “because of procedures†it will take around 7 days.
– Anna D
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Possible duplicate of UK visa refusal on V 4.2 a + c (and sometimes 'e')
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I applied for a visiting visa (priority) from Japan (where I currently live and work) to the UK for 5 days and it got it denied under provisions 4.2 (a, c, e). I am Ukrainian and before coming to the UK to visit my boyfriend, I planned on visiting my home country and departing directly from there.
The refusal letter says:
The decision
I have refused your application for a visit visa because I am not satisfied that you meet the requirements of paragraph(s) V4.2 of Appendix V: Immigration Rules for Visitors because:
- You have applied for a leave to enter to visit the UK for 5 days for tourism.
- In order to be able to make a decision on whether or not to grant you entry clearance in this category I have taken into account your stated circumstances in Japan, the reasons for your visit, and your proposed travel arrangements. You have declared that you are employed as a Business operations manager and that you earn 1745.00 GBP per month from all sources of employment after tax.
- In support of your application you have submitted a letter from [redacted]. You also submit an additional bank certification which shows a balance dated 2018.9.14. Bank letters only show the balance of an account on one day and do not show the financial commitment of an applicant nor do they show the source of any funds in an account. In the absence of evidence as to the source of these funds I cannot be satisfied that this bank statement is a true reflection of your current financial circumstances and that these funds will remain genuinely available to you for your exclusive use for the duration of your trip.
- I must take into account your personal and economic circumstances when coming to my decision. On the evidence provided I am not satisfied that you have established that your circumstances are as stated and that your economic ties to Japan have been demonstrated to ensure you intend a genuine visit or that you would seek to leave the UK at the end of the limited period stated by you. I am therefore not satisfied that you meet the requirements of Paragraph 4.2 (a) and (c) Nor am I satisfied that the statement presented represents a true reflection of your financial circumstances and that the funds seen will be available to you as stated 4.2 (e)
Future applications
Any future UK visa applications you make will be considered on their individual merits; however, you are likely to be refused unless the circumstances of your application change.
In relation to this decision there is no right of appeal or right to administrative review.
The documents I provided:
- my personal information and my boyfriend’s information, showing that he has a UK student visa;
- boyfriend’s invitation letter and explanation of our relationship (how he knows me, how long we have been together and who I am for him);
- proof of my residence in Japan (a rent contract) and my partner’s residence in the UK (his rent contract);
- my bank certificate with 2700£;
- pay-slips showing my monthly earnings of 1750£ (after tax) and one pay-slip with a bonus stated (monthly total: 3500£);
- employment certificate from January 2017 to June 2021 (when my Japanese work visa is expiring);
- letter of leave from work;
- tour plan;
- bought tickets to Ukraine and to Japan (from the 8th of October and to the 29th of October) and booked tickets for the UK (18th-22nd of October);
The thing that I planned on attaching to my application were my bank statements. I have applied to get them, but my bank (now over 3 weeks) still hasn’t sent them to me, this is why I applied without them. Which I absolutely understand the reason for visa denial.
Since I do not have time to apply from Japan, I plan on applying from Ukraine.
My question: since I doubt I will get my bank statements till then, I thought about stating my uncle as my sponsor, who has sufficient funds and bank statements. This is the quickest way to get the document that seems to be the reason of my denial.
Obviously I plan on explaining why I cannot provide my own bank statements.
Can anyone help me understand if this is a good way to go around this? Is what I plan on doing increase my chances of getting the visa? If so - what kind of documents do I need to show from my uncles side?
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I applied for a visiting visa (priority) from Japan (where I currently live and work) to the UK for 5 days and it got it denied under provisions 4.2 (a, c, e). I am Ukrainian and before coming to the UK to visit my boyfriend, I planned on visiting my home country and departing directly from there.
The refusal letter says:
The decision
I have refused your application for a visit visa because I am not satisfied that you meet the requirements of paragraph(s) V4.2 of Appendix V: Immigration Rules for Visitors because:
- You have applied for a leave to enter to visit the UK for 5 days for tourism.
- In order to be able to make a decision on whether or not to grant you entry clearance in this category I have taken into account your stated circumstances in Japan, the reasons for your visit, and your proposed travel arrangements. You have declared that you are employed as a Business operations manager and that you earn 1745.00 GBP per month from all sources of employment after tax.
- In support of your application you have submitted a letter from [redacted]. You also submit an additional bank certification which shows a balance dated 2018.9.14. Bank letters only show the balance of an account on one day and do not show the financial commitment of an applicant nor do they show the source of any funds in an account. In the absence of evidence as to the source of these funds I cannot be satisfied that this bank statement is a true reflection of your current financial circumstances and that these funds will remain genuinely available to you for your exclusive use for the duration of your trip.
- I must take into account your personal and economic circumstances when coming to my decision. On the evidence provided I am not satisfied that you have established that your circumstances are as stated and that your economic ties to Japan have been demonstrated to ensure you intend a genuine visit or that you would seek to leave the UK at the end of the limited period stated by you. I am therefore not satisfied that you meet the requirements of Paragraph 4.2 (a) and (c) Nor am I satisfied that the statement presented represents a true reflection of your financial circumstances and that the funds seen will be available to you as stated 4.2 (e)
Future applications
Any future UK visa applications you make will be considered on their individual merits; however, you are likely to be refused unless the circumstances of your application change.
In relation to this decision there is no right of appeal or right to administrative review.
The documents I provided:
- my personal information and my boyfriend’s information, showing that he has a UK student visa;
- boyfriend’s invitation letter and explanation of our relationship (how he knows me, how long we have been together and who I am for him);
- proof of my residence in Japan (a rent contract) and my partner’s residence in the UK (his rent contract);
- my bank certificate with 2700£;
- pay-slips showing my monthly earnings of 1750£ (after tax) and one pay-slip with a bonus stated (monthly total: 3500£);
- employment certificate from January 2017 to June 2021 (when my Japanese work visa is expiring);
- letter of leave from work;
- tour plan;
- bought tickets to Ukraine and to Japan (from the 8th of October and to the 29th of October) and booked tickets for the UK (18th-22nd of October);
The thing that I planned on attaching to my application were my bank statements. I have applied to get them, but my bank (now over 3 weeks) still hasn’t sent them to me, this is why I applied without them. Which I absolutely understand the reason for visa denial.
Since I do not have time to apply from Japan, I plan on applying from Ukraine.
My question: since I doubt I will get my bank statements till then, I thought about stating my uncle as my sponsor, who has sufficient funds and bank statements. This is the quickest way to get the document that seems to be the reason of my denial.
Obviously I plan on explaining why I cannot provide my own bank statements.
Can anyone help me understand if this is a good way to go around this? Is what I plan on doing increase my chances of getting the visa? If so - what kind of documents do I need to show from my uncles side?
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Thank you both for the reply! I might be able to get the statements in a few days, but, when reapplying, the bank statements will indicate, that it covers a period from January till the start of September. But I will already be applying in October. Would that be a problem? Because it will be impossible for me to provide them till then, given that I will be reapplying from Ukraine.
– Anna D
yesterday
3
Please see this excellent question/answer for background information about why you should provide your bank statements and what they are looking for in those statememts.
– RedBaron
yesterday
1
Does your bank allow you to access your account online? You might be able to print statements. Or perhaps visiting a branch and asking for the statements to be given to you immediately could speed up the process.
– Zach Lipton
yesterday
3
Also, my bank doesn’t allow me to access my transactions online. I asked them to print them in front of me the same day, but they explained, that “because of procedures†it will take around 7 days.
– Anna D
yesterday
3
Possible duplicate of UK visa refusal on V 4.2 a + c (and sometimes 'e')
– gparyani
yesterday
 |Â
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Thank you both for the reply! I might be able to get the statements in a few days, but, when reapplying, the bank statements will indicate, that it covers a period from January till the start of September. But I will already be applying in October. Would that be a problem? Because it will be impossible for me to provide them till then, given that I will be reapplying from Ukraine.
– Anna D
yesterday
3
Please see this excellent question/answer for background information about why you should provide your bank statements and what they are looking for in those statememts.
– RedBaron
yesterday
1
Does your bank allow you to access your account online? You might be able to print statements. Or perhaps visiting a branch and asking for the statements to be given to you immediately could speed up the process.
– Zach Lipton
yesterday
3
Also, my bank doesn’t allow me to access my transactions online. I asked them to print them in front of me the same day, but they explained, that “because of procedures†it will take around 7 days.
– Anna D
yesterday
3
Possible duplicate of UK visa refusal on V 4.2 a + c (and sometimes 'e')
– gparyani
yesterday
1
1
Thank you both for the reply! I might be able to get the statements in a few days, but, when reapplying, the bank statements will indicate, that it covers a period from January till the start of September. But I will already be applying in October. Would that be a problem? Because it will be impossible for me to provide them till then, given that I will be reapplying from Ukraine.
– Anna D
yesterday
Thank you both for the reply! I might be able to get the statements in a few days, but, when reapplying, the bank statements will indicate, that it covers a period from January till the start of September. But I will already be applying in October. Would that be a problem? Because it will be impossible for me to provide them till then, given that I will be reapplying from Ukraine.
– Anna D
yesterday
3
3
Please see this excellent question/answer for background information about why you should provide your bank statements and what they are looking for in those statememts.
– RedBaron
yesterday
Please see this excellent question/answer for background information about why you should provide your bank statements and what they are looking for in those statememts.
– RedBaron
yesterday
1
1
Does your bank allow you to access your account online? You might be able to print statements. Or perhaps visiting a branch and asking for the statements to be given to you immediately could speed up the process.
– Zach Lipton
yesterday
Does your bank allow you to access your account online? You might be able to print statements. Or perhaps visiting a branch and asking for the statements to be given to you immediately could speed up the process.
– Zach Lipton
yesterday
3
3
Also, my bank doesn’t allow me to access my transactions online. I asked them to print them in front of me the same day, but they explained, that “because of procedures†it will take around 7 days.
– Anna D
yesterday
Also, my bank doesn’t allow me to access my transactions online. I asked them to print them in front of me the same day, but they explained, that “because of procedures†it will take around 7 days.
– Anna D
yesterday
3
3
Possible duplicate of UK visa refusal on V 4.2 a + c (and sometimes 'e')
– gparyani
yesterday
Possible duplicate of UK visa refusal on V 4.2 a + c (and sometimes 'e')
– gparyani
yesterday
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You need your bank statements.
Since you are decently employed with an ongoing work visa for Japan, suddenly switching to saying your uncle will pay for everything and still not showing your own financial circumstances makes your application much weaker as well as inconsistent with the previous application and I can only presume it will be rejected.
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Your uncle is irrelevant. If you claim to have a bank account but persist in withholding the statements, whatever the reason, the ECO will conclude that you're hiding something and refuse your application.
You already have one refusal. A second refusal will make life very much harder. Do what you have to do, but get the statements.
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The UK immigration service will refuse you on absolutely anything they can, so I suggest including the following information in addition to what you already provided:
The bank statements you plan to include, ideally going back several months. You may be able to get them by visiting the bank in person. If they offer to print them out have them stamped as authentic.
A copy of the refusal letter and a cover letter saying that you understand the decision and have included additional information to address the issues raised.
Don't change your story, stick with your original plan. If you try to say that someone else will cover your costs they will just use it against you, claiming that it isn't clear what you are planning to do.
If possible take some legal advice by getting your application checked first. I know it's very expensive but it's worth it. Your boyfriend in the UK best placed to do this, as you really need a UK lawyer who is familiar with the system.
I'm afraid it is very difficult to get a UK visa at the best of times.
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Sometimes it appears that it’s very difficult to get a U.K. visa, but when one looks at the refusal reasons it’s often evident that the application had deficiencies that meant it was doomed to failure from the start. Basic errors, missing essential documents, failure to read relevant guides etc. In the year to June 2018, the U.K. granted over 2.7m visit visas, and 88% of applications were successful gov.uk/government/publications/…
– Traveller
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The issue is that the UK will refuse on any possible grounds, often lies about the availability of appeals and generally makes the whole process as difficult to understand and use as possible. Note that the 88% figure doesn't include people who decided not to even apply after taking legal advice.
– user
7 hours ago
Would be interesting to know the number of first time applications that fail.
– user
7 hours ago
Unfortunately TSE only sees the negative situations - after all, it’s highly unlikely anyone will post a question asking why they were approved. My own partner, who is Cuban therefore not high up on most countries’ ‘preferred visitor’ list, has been successful both times he applied. I don’t share your views on U.K. prejudice against applicants, although I do think that those whose level of English is low may be at a disadvantage when trying to follow the extensive guidance available.
– Traveller
7 hours ago
I disagree that the guidance is extensive. For example, it doesn't mention in any great detail how you would demonstrate that you would leave after the tip, e.g. by showing dependency or interests at home. That kind of information is why you need to pay for legal advice.
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You need your bank statements.
Since you are decently employed with an ongoing work visa for Japan, suddenly switching to saying your uncle will pay for everything and still not showing your own financial circumstances makes your application much weaker as well as inconsistent with the previous application and I can only presume it will be rejected.
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nkjt
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You need your bank statements.
Since you are decently employed with an ongoing work visa for Japan, suddenly switching to saying your uncle will pay for everything and still not showing your own financial circumstances makes your application much weaker as well as inconsistent with the previous application and I can only presume it will be rejected.
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nkjt
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up vote
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up vote
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You need your bank statements.
Since you are decently employed with an ongoing work visa for Japan, suddenly switching to saying your uncle will pay for everything and still not showing your own financial circumstances makes your application much weaker as well as inconsistent with the previous application and I can only presume it will be rejected.
answered yesterday
nkjt
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You need your bank statements.
Since you are decently employed with an ongoing work visa for Japan, suddenly switching to saying your uncle will pay for everything and still not showing your own financial circumstances makes your application much weaker as well as inconsistent with the previous application and I can only presume it will be rejected.
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Your uncle is irrelevant. If you claim to have a bank account but persist in withholding the statements, whatever the reason, the ECO will conclude that you're hiding something and refuse your application.
You already have one refusal. A second refusal will make life very much harder. Do what you have to do, but get the statements.
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Cannon Fodder
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up vote
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Your uncle is irrelevant. If you claim to have a bank account but persist in withholding the statements, whatever the reason, the ECO will conclude that you're hiding something and refuse your application.
You already have one refusal. A second refusal will make life very much harder. Do what you have to do, but get the statements.
answered yesterday
Cannon Fodder
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up vote
32
down vote
up vote
32
down vote
Your uncle is irrelevant. If you claim to have a bank account but persist in withholding the statements, whatever the reason, the ECO will conclude that you're hiding something and refuse your application.
You already have one refusal. A second refusal will make life very much harder. Do what you have to do, but get the statements.
answered yesterday
Cannon Fodder
2,405721
Your uncle is irrelevant. If you claim to have a bank account but persist in withholding the statements, whatever the reason, the ECO will conclude that you're hiding something and refuse your application.
You already have one refusal. A second refusal will make life very much harder. Do what you have to do, but get the statements.
answered yesterday
Cannon Fodder
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Cannon Fodder
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answered yesterday
Cannon Fodder
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The UK immigration service will refuse you on absolutely anything they can, so I suggest including the following information in addition to what you already provided:
The bank statements you plan to include, ideally going back several months. You may be able to get them by visiting the bank in person. If they offer to print them out have them stamped as authentic.
A copy of the refusal letter and a cover letter saying that you understand the decision and have included additional information to address the issues raised.
Don't change your story, stick with your original plan. If you try to say that someone else will cover your costs they will just use it against you, claiming that it isn't clear what you are planning to do.
If possible take some legal advice by getting your application checked first. I know it's very expensive but it's worth it. Your boyfriend in the UK best placed to do this, as you really need a UK lawyer who is familiar with the system.
I'm afraid it is very difficult to get a UK visa at the best of times.
answered yesterday
user
53838
3
Sometimes it appears that it’s very difficult to get a U.K. visa, but when one looks at the refusal reasons it’s often evident that the application had deficiencies that meant it was doomed to failure from the start. Basic errors, missing essential documents, failure to read relevant guides etc. In the year to June 2018, the U.K. granted over 2.7m visit visas, and 88% of applications were successful gov.uk/government/publications/…
– Traveller
8 hours ago
1
The issue is that the UK will refuse on any possible grounds, often lies about the availability of appeals and generally makes the whole process as difficult to understand and use as possible. Note that the 88% figure doesn't include people who decided not to even apply after taking legal advice.
– user
7 hours ago
Would be interesting to know the number of first time applications that fail.
– user
7 hours ago
Unfortunately TSE only sees the negative situations - after all, it’s highly unlikely anyone will post a question asking why they were approved. My own partner, who is Cuban therefore not high up on most countries’ ‘preferred visitor’ list, has been successful both times he applied. I don’t share your views on U.K. prejudice against applicants, although I do think that those whose level of English is low may be at a disadvantage when trying to follow the extensive guidance available.
– Traveller
7 hours ago
I disagree that the guidance is extensive. For example, it doesn't mention in any great detail how you would demonstrate that you would leave after the tip, e.g. by showing dependency or interests at home. That kind of information is why you need to pay for legal advice.
– user
6 hours ago
 |Â
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12
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The UK immigration service will refuse you on absolutely anything they can, so I suggest including the following information in addition to what you already provided:
The bank statements you plan to include, ideally going back several months. You may be able to get them by visiting the bank in person. If they offer to print them out have them stamped as authentic.
A copy of the refusal letter and a cover letter saying that you understand the decision and have included additional information to address the issues raised.
Don't change your story, stick with your original plan. If you try to say that someone else will cover your costs they will just use it against you, claiming that it isn't clear what you are planning to do.
If possible take some legal advice by getting your application checked first. I know it's very expensive but it's worth it. Your boyfriend in the UK best placed to do this, as you really need a UK lawyer who is familiar with the system.
I'm afraid it is very difficult to get a UK visa at the best of times.
answered yesterday
user
53838
3
Sometimes it appears that it’s very difficult to get a U.K. visa, but when one looks at the refusal reasons it’s often evident that the application had deficiencies that meant it was doomed to failure from the start. Basic errors, missing essential documents, failure to read relevant guides etc. In the year to June 2018, the U.K. granted over 2.7m visit visas, and 88% of applications were successful gov.uk/government/publications/…
– Traveller
8 hours ago
1
The issue is that the UK will refuse on any possible grounds, often lies about the availability of appeals and generally makes the whole process as difficult to understand and use as possible. Note that the 88% figure doesn't include people who decided not to even apply after taking legal advice.
– user
7 hours ago
Would be interesting to know the number of first time applications that fail.
– user
7 hours ago
Unfortunately TSE only sees the negative situations - after all, it’s highly unlikely anyone will post a question asking why they were approved. My own partner, who is Cuban therefore not high up on most countries’ ‘preferred visitor’ list, has been successful both times he applied. I don’t share your views on U.K. prejudice against applicants, although I do think that those whose level of English is low may be at a disadvantage when trying to follow the extensive guidance available.
– Traveller
7 hours ago
I disagree that the guidance is extensive. For example, it doesn't mention in any great detail how you would demonstrate that you would leave after the tip, e.g. by showing dependency or interests at home. That kind of information is why you need to pay for legal advice.
– user
6 hours ago
 |Â
show 1 more comment
up vote
12
down vote
up vote
12
down vote
The UK immigration service will refuse you on absolutely anything they can, so I suggest including the following information in addition to what you already provided:
The bank statements you plan to include, ideally going back several months. You may be able to get them by visiting the bank in person. If they offer to print them out have them stamped as authentic.
A copy of the refusal letter and a cover letter saying that you understand the decision and have included additional information to address the issues raised.
Don't change your story, stick with your original plan. If you try to say that someone else will cover your costs they will just use it against you, claiming that it isn't clear what you are planning to do.
If possible take some legal advice by getting your application checked first. I know it's very expensive but it's worth it. Your boyfriend in the UK best placed to do this, as you really need a UK lawyer who is familiar with the system.
I'm afraid it is very difficult to get a UK visa at the best of times.
answered yesterday
user
53838
The UK immigration service will refuse you on absolutely anything they can, so I suggest including the following information in addition to what you already provided:
The bank statements you plan to include, ideally going back several months. You may be able to get them by visiting the bank in person. If they offer to print them out have them stamped as authentic.
A copy of the refusal letter and a cover letter saying that you understand the decision and have included additional information to address the issues raised.
Don't change your story, stick with your original plan. If you try to say that someone else will cover your costs they will just use it against you, claiming that it isn't clear what you are planning to do.
If possible take some legal advice by getting your application checked first. I know it's very expensive but it's worth it. Your boyfriend in the UK best placed to do this, as you really need a UK lawyer who is familiar with the system.
I'm afraid it is very difficult to get a UK visa at the best of times.
answered yesterday
user
53838
answered yesterday
user
53838
answered yesterday
user
53838
answered yesterday
user
53838
53838
3
Sometimes it appears that it’s very difficult to get a U.K. visa, but when one looks at the refusal reasons it’s often evident that the application had deficiencies that meant it was doomed to failure from the start. Basic errors, missing essential documents, failure to read relevant guides etc. In the year to June 2018, the U.K. granted over 2.7m visit visas, and 88% of applications were successful gov.uk/government/publications/…
– Traveller
8 hours ago
1
The issue is that the UK will refuse on any possible grounds, often lies about the availability of appeals and generally makes the whole process as difficult to understand and use as possible. Note that the 88% figure doesn't include people who decided not to even apply after taking legal advice.
– user
7 hours ago
Would be interesting to know the number of first time applications that fail.
– user
7 hours ago
Unfortunately TSE only sees the negative situations - after all, it’s highly unlikely anyone will post a question asking why they were approved. My own partner, who is Cuban therefore not high up on most countries’ ‘preferred visitor’ list, has been successful both times he applied. I don’t share your views on U.K. prejudice against applicants, although I do think that those whose level of English is low may be at a disadvantage when trying to follow the extensive guidance available.
– Traveller
7 hours ago
I disagree that the guidance is extensive. For example, it doesn't mention in any great detail how you would demonstrate that you would leave after the tip, e.g. by showing dependency or interests at home. That kind of information is why you need to pay for legal advice.
– user
6 hours ago
 |Â
show 1 more comment
3
Sometimes it appears that it’s very difficult to get a U.K. visa, but when one looks at the refusal reasons it’s often evident that the application had deficiencies that meant it was doomed to failure from the start. Basic errors, missing essential documents, failure to read relevant guides etc. In the year to June 2018, the U.K. granted over 2.7m visit visas, and 88% of applications were successful gov.uk/government/publications/…
– Traveller
8 hours ago
1
The issue is that the UK will refuse on any possible grounds, often lies about the availability of appeals and generally makes the whole process as difficult to understand and use as possible. Note that the 88% figure doesn't include people who decided not to even apply after taking legal advice.
– user
7 hours ago
Would be interesting to know the number of first time applications that fail.
– user
7 hours ago
Unfortunately TSE only sees the negative situations - after all, it’s highly unlikely anyone will post a question asking why they were approved. My own partner, who is Cuban therefore not high up on most countries’ ‘preferred visitor’ list, has been successful both times he applied. I don’t share your views on U.K. prejudice against applicants, although I do think that those whose level of English is low may be at a disadvantage when trying to follow the extensive guidance available.
– Traveller
7 hours ago
I disagree that the guidance is extensive. For example, it doesn't mention in any great detail how you would demonstrate that you would leave after the tip, e.g. by showing dependency or interests at home. That kind of information is why you need to pay for legal advice.
– user
6 hours ago
3
3
Sometimes it appears that it’s very difficult to get a U.K. visa, but when one looks at the refusal reasons it’s often evident that the application had deficiencies that meant it was doomed to failure from the start. Basic errors, missing essential documents, failure to read relevant guides etc. In the year to June 2018, the U.K. granted over 2.7m visit visas, and 88% of applications were successful gov.uk/government/publications/…
– Traveller
8 hours ago
Sometimes it appears that it’s very difficult to get a U.K. visa, but when one looks at the refusal reasons it’s often evident that the application had deficiencies that meant it was doomed to failure from the start. Basic errors, missing essential documents, failure to read relevant guides etc. In the year to June 2018, the U.K. granted over 2.7m visit visas, and 88% of applications were successful gov.uk/government/publications/…
– Traveller
8 hours ago
1
1
The issue is that the UK will refuse on any possible grounds, often lies about the availability of appeals and generally makes the whole process as difficult to understand and use as possible. Note that the 88% figure doesn't include people who decided not to even apply after taking legal advice.
– user
7 hours ago
The issue is that the UK will refuse on any possible grounds, often lies about the availability of appeals and generally makes the whole process as difficult to understand and use as possible. Note that the 88% figure doesn't include people who decided not to even apply after taking legal advice.
– user
7 hours ago
Would be interesting to know the number of first time applications that fail.
– user
7 hours ago
Would be interesting to know the number of first time applications that fail.
– user
7 hours ago
Unfortunately TSE only sees the negative situations - after all, it’s highly unlikely anyone will post a question asking why they were approved. My own partner, who is Cuban therefore not high up on most countries’ ‘preferred visitor’ list, has been successful both times he applied. I don’t share your views on U.K. prejudice against applicants, although I do think that those whose level of English is low may be at a disadvantage when trying to follow the extensive guidance available.
– Traveller
7 hours ago
Unfortunately TSE only sees the negative situations - after all, it’s highly unlikely anyone will post a question asking why they were approved. My own partner, who is Cuban therefore not high up on most countries’ ‘preferred visitor’ list, has been successful both times he applied. I don’t share your views on U.K. prejudice against applicants, although I do think that those whose level of English is low may be at a disadvantage when trying to follow the extensive guidance available.
– Traveller
7 hours ago
I disagree that the guidance is extensive. For example, it doesn't mention in any great detail how you would demonstrate that you would leave after the tip, e.g. by showing dependency or interests at home. That kind of information is why you need to pay for legal advice.
– user
6 hours ago
I disagree that the guidance is extensive. For example, it doesn't mention in any great detail how you would demonstrate that you would leave after the tip, e.g. by showing dependency or interests at home. That kind of information is why you need to pay for legal advice.
– user
6 hours ago
 |Â
show 1 more comment
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Thank you both for the reply! I might be able to get the statements in a few days, but, when reapplying, the bank statements will indicate, that it covers a period from January till the start of September. But I will already be applying in October. Would that be a problem? Because it will be impossible for me to provide them till then, given that I will be reapplying from Ukraine.
– Anna D
yesterday
3
Please see this excellent question/answer for background information about why you should provide your bank statements and what they are looking for in those statememts.
– RedBaron
yesterday
1
Does your bank allow you to access your account online? You might be able to print statements. Or perhaps visiting a branch and asking for the statements to be given to you immediately could speed up the process.
– Zach Lipton
yesterday
3
Also, my bank doesn’t allow me to access my transactions online. I asked them to print them in front of me the same day, but they explained, that “because of procedures†it will take around 7 days.
– Anna D
yesterday
3
Possible duplicate of UK visa refusal on V 4.2 a + c (and sometimes 'e')
– gparyani
yesterday