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"My train arrives at 7.30 tomorrow".. or "My train will arrive at 7.30 tomorrow"

Which one is gramatically correct?

Usually I use the future but I heard a lot of people that use the first sentence and I don't understand why.

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    You don't have to use will when you refer to the future. Will is just another modal auxiliary verb, not "the future tense". English refers to the future in lots of ways, most of which are in the present tense: He goes tomorrow; he's going tomorrow; he is to go tomorrow; he's going to go tomorrow (pronounced "gonna go"), etc. They're all grammatical.
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  • Even he would go tomorrow is grammatical.
    – Lawrence
    Sep 4 at 15:17






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    @Lawrence: Even if he went tomorrow, it would still be grammatical! :)
    – FumbleFingers
    Sep 4 at 15:59






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    @FumbleFingers Indeed, though it might be a bridge too far (or not!) had he gone tomorrow. :)
    – Lawrence
    Sep 4 at 16:04






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    @Lawrence: Let's not burn all our contextual bridges! I'm really surprised he left today. Had he gone tomorrow he could have used a cheap Off-Peak ticket.
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    Sep 4 at 16:18
















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"My train arrives at 7.30 tomorrow".. or "My train will arrive at 7.30 tomorrow"

Which one is gramatically correct?

Usually I use the future but I heard a lot of people that use the first sentence and I don't understand why.

Thank you in advance







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    You don't have to use will when you refer to the future. Will is just another modal auxiliary verb, not "the future tense". English refers to the future in lots of ways, most of which are in the present tense: He goes tomorrow; he's going tomorrow; he is to go tomorrow; he's going to go tomorrow (pronounced "gonna go"), etc. They're all grammatical.
    – John Lawler
    Sep 4 at 14:00










  • Even he would go tomorrow is grammatical.
    – Lawrence
    Sep 4 at 15:17






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    @Lawrence: Even if he went tomorrow, it would still be grammatical! :)
    – FumbleFingers
    Sep 4 at 15:59






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    @FumbleFingers Indeed, though it might be a bridge too far (or not!) had he gone tomorrow. :)
    – Lawrence
    Sep 4 at 16:04






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    @Lawrence: Let's not burn all our contextual bridges! I'm really surprised he left today. Had he gone tomorrow he could have used a cheap Off-Peak ticket.
    – FumbleFingers
    Sep 4 at 16:18












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"My train arrives at 7.30 tomorrow".. or "My train will arrive at 7.30 tomorrow"

Which one is gramatically correct?

Usually I use the future but I heard a lot of people that use the first sentence and I don't understand why.

Thank you in advance







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"My train arrives at 7.30 tomorrow".. or "My train will arrive at 7.30 tomorrow"

Which one is gramatically correct?

Usually I use the future but I heard a lot of people that use the first sentence and I don't understand why.

Thank you in advance





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    You don't have to use will when you refer to the future. Will is just another modal auxiliary verb, not "the future tense". English refers to the future in lots of ways, most of which are in the present tense: He goes tomorrow; he's going tomorrow; he is to go tomorrow; he's going to go tomorrow (pronounced "gonna go"), etc. They're all grammatical.
    – John Lawler
    Sep 4 at 14:00










  • Even he would go tomorrow is grammatical.
    – Lawrence
    Sep 4 at 15:17






  • 1




    @Lawrence: Even if he went tomorrow, it would still be grammatical! :)
    – FumbleFingers
    Sep 4 at 15:59






  • 1




    @FumbleFingers Indeed, though it might be a bridge too far (or not!) had he gone tomorrow. :)
    – Lawrence
    Sep 4 at 16:04






  • 1




    @Lawrence: Let's not burn all our contextual bridges! I'm really surprised he left today. Had he gone tomorrow he could have used a cheap Off-Peak ticket.
    – FumbleFingers
    Sep 4 at 16:18












  • 6




    You don't have to use will when you refer to the future. Will is just another modal auxiliary verb, not "the future tense". English refers to the future in lots of ways, most of which are in the present tense: He goes tomorrow; he's going tomorrow; he is to go tomorrow; he's going to go tomorrow (pronounced "gonna go"), etc. They're all grammatical.
    – John Lawler
    Sep 4 at 14:00










  • Even he would go tomorrow is grammatical.
    – Lawrence
    Sep 4 at 15:17






  • 1




    @Lawrence: Even if he went tomorrow, it would still be grammatical! :)
    – FumbleFingers
    Sep 4 at 15:59






  • 1




    @FumbleFingers Indeed, though it might be a bridge too far (or not!) had he gone tomorrow. :)
    – Lawrence
    Sep 4 at 16:04






  • 1




    @Lawrence: Let's not burn all our contextual bridges! I'm really surprised he left today. Had he gone tomorrow he could have used a cheap Off-Peak ticket.
    – FumbleFingers
    Sep 4 at 16:18







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You don't have to use will when you refer to the future. Will is just another modal auxiliary verb, not "the future tense". English refers to the future in lots of ways, most of which are in the present tense: He goes tomorrow; he's going tomorrow; he is to go tomorrow; he's going to go tomorrow (pronounced "gonna go"), etc. They're all grammatical.
– John Lawler
Sep 4 at 14:00




You don't have to use will when you refer to the future. Will is just another modal auxiliary verb, not "the future tense". English refers to the future in lots of ways, most of which are in the present tense: He goes tomorrow; he's going tomorrow; he is to go tomorrow; he's going to go tomorrow (pronounced "gonna go"), etc. They're all grammatical.
– John Lawler
Sep 4 at 14:00












Even he would go tomorrow is grammatical.
– Lawrence
Sep 4 at 15:17




Even he would go tomorrow is grammatical.
– Lawrence
Sep 4 at 15:17




1




1




@Lawrence: Even if he went tomorrow, it would still be grammatical! :)
– FumbleFingers
Sep 4 at 15:59




@Lawrence: Even if he went tomorrow, it would still be grammatical! :)
– FumbleFingers
Sep 4 at 15:59




1




1




@FumbleFingers Indeed, though it might be a bridge too far (or not!) had he gone tomorrow. :)
– Lawrence
Sep 4 at 16:04




@FumbleFingers Indeed, though it might be a bridge too far (or not!) had he gone tomorrow. :)
– Lawrence
Sep 4 at 16:04




1




1




@Lawrence: Let's not burn all our contextual bridges! I'm really surprised he left today. Had he gone tomorrow he could have used a cheap Off-Peak ticket.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 4 at 16:18




@Lawrence: Let's not burn all our contextual bridges! I'm really surprised he left today. Had he gone tomorrow he could have used a cheap Off-Peak ticket.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 4 at 16:18










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You don't have to use will when you refer to the future. Will is just another modal auxiliary verb, not "the future tense". English refers to the future in lots of ways, most of which are in the present tense: He goes tomorrow; he's going tomorrow; he is to go tomorrow; he's going to go tomorrow (pronounced "gonna go"), etc. They're all grammatical.







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    My train arrives at 7.30 tomorrow.. or My train will arrive at 7.30
    tomorrow.




    Syntactically, the modal auxiliary verb "will" has
    two tenses: present and preterite. Semantically, it is used to make
    reference to future time (about 80% of its occurrences, I believe) but
    also for expressing volition (as in I keep telling my son to get his
    hair cut, but he won't
    ; so I've told him he has to --- notice, the
    refusals to get his hair cut are in the PAST, and this sentence actually
    entails that there IS a haircut in his future!).



    The film will be seen at the Sundance festival is syntactically a
    present tense clause with "will" as the tensed verb. But in that
    example, "will" clearly expressed reference to future time ---
    something that could be done in various other ways as well (The film
    is going to be seen at the Sundance festival
    , The film is about to
    be seen at the Sundance festival
    , etc.).






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      In a comment, John Lawler wrote:




      You don't have to use will when you refer to the future. Will is just another modal auxiliary verb, not "the future tense". English refers to the future in lots of ways, most of which are in the present tense: He goes tomorrow; he's going tomorrow; he is to go tomorrow; he's going to go tomorrow (pronounced "gonna go"), etc. They're all grammatical.







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        In a comment, John Lawler wrote:




        You don't have to use will when you refer to the future. Will is just another modal auxiliary verb, not "the future tense". English refers to the future in lots of ways, most of which are in the present tense: He goes tomorrow; he's going tomorrow; he is to go tomorrow; he's going to go tomorrow (pronounced "gonna go"), etc. They're all grammatical.







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          In a comment, John Lawler wrote:




          You don't have to use will when you refer to the future. Will is just another modal auxiliary verb, not "the future tense". English refers to the future in lots of ways, most of which are in the present tense: He goes tomorrow; he's going tomorrow; he is to go tomorrow; he's going to go tomorrow (pronounced "gonna go"), etc. They're all grammatical.







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          In a comment, John Lawler wrote:




          You don't have to use will when you refer to the future. Will is just another modal auxiliary verb, not "the future tense". English refers to the future in lots of ways, most of which are in the present tense: He goes tomorrow; he's going tomorrow; he is to go tomorrow; he's going to go tomorrow (pronounced "gonna go"), etc. They're all grammatical.








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              My train arrives at 7.30 tomorrow.. or My train will arrive at 7.30
              tomorrow.




              Syntactically, the modal auxiliary verb "will" has
              two tenses: present and preterite. Semantically, it is used to make
              reference to future time (about 80% of its occurrences, I believe) but
              also for expressing volition (as in I keep telling my son to get his
              hair cut, but he won't
              ; so I've told him he has to --- notice, the
              refusals to get his hair cut are in the PAST, and this sentence actually
              entails that there IS a haircut in his future!).



              The film will be seen at the Sundance festival is syntactically a
              present tense clause with "will" as the tensed verb. But in that
              example, "will" clearly expressed reference to future time ---
              something that could be done in various other ways as well (The film
              is going to be seen at the Sundance festival
              , The film is about to
              be seen at the Sundance festival
              , etc.).






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                up vote
                3
                down vote














                My train arrives at 7.30 tomorrow.. or My train will arrive at 7.30
                tomorrow.




                Syntactically, the modal auxiliary verb "will" has
                two tenses: present and preterite. Semantically, it is used to make
                reference to future time (about 80% of its occurrences, I believe) but
                also for expressing volition (as in I keep telling my son to get his
                hair cut, but he won't
                ; so I've told him he has to --- notice, the
                refusals to get his hair cut are in the PAST, and this sentence actually
                entails that there IS a haircut in his future!).



                The film will be seen at the Sundance festival is syntactically a
                present tense clause with "will" as the tensed verb. But in that
                example, "will" clearly expressed reference to future time ---
                something that could be done in various other ways as well (The film
                is going to be seen at the Sundance festival
                , The film is about to
                be seen at the Sundance festival
                , etc.).






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                  My train arrives at 7.30 tomorrow.. or My train will arrive at 7.30
                  tomorrow.




                  Syntactically, the modal auxiliary verb "will" has
                  two tenses: present and preterite. Semantically, it is used to make
                  reference to future time (about 80% of its occurrences, I believe) but
                  also for expressing volition (as in I keep telling my son to get his
                  hair cut, but he won't
                  ; so I've told him he has to --- notice, the
                  refusals to get his hair cut are in the PAST, and this sentence actually
                  entails that there IS a haircut in his future!).



                  The film will be seen at the Sundance festival is syntactically a
                  present tense clause with "will" as the tensed verb. But in that
                  example, "will" clearly expressed reference to future time ---
                  something that could be done in various other ways as well (The film
                  is going to be seen at the Sundance festival
                  , The film is about to
                  be seen at the Sundance festival
                  , etc.).






                  share|improve this answer













                  My train arrives at 7.30 tomorrow.. or My train will arrive at 7.30
                  tomorrow.




                  Syntactically, the modal auxiliary verb "will" has
                  two tenses: present and preterite. Semantically, it is used to make
                  reference to future time (about 80% of its occurrences, I believe) but
                  also for expressing volition (as in I keep telling my son to get his
                  hair cut, but he won't
                  ; so I've told him he has to --- notice, the
                  refusals to get his hair cut are in the PAST, and this sentence actually
                  entails that there IS a haircut in his future!).



                  The film will be seen at the Sundance festival is syntactically a
                  present tense clause with "will" as the tensed verb. But in that
                  example, "will" clearly expressed reference to future time ---
                  something that could be done in various other ways as well (The film
                  is going to be seen at the Sundance festival
                  , The film is about to
                  be seen at the Sundance festival
                  , etc.).







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