Mixing
Double suffixes?
Clash Royale CLAN TAG#URR8PPP
up vote
9
down vote
favorite
Is there any specific rule which forbids the same suffix applied twice in a row?
Context: I've randomly tried to imagine what programming variables would be called in Esperanto and realized that "workshopFactory" is technically laborejejo, since it's a place where places for working reside.
So I tried creating more -- I've thought that you could jokingly say that you're laboremema, meaning you're eager to be eager to get working on something, in a sense that you're lazy. In a similar way you can go overboard with -aĉ-, like hundaĉaĉo.
I have a feeling that -ar- (along with my original -ej-) might be the easiest to imagine, like a group of forests in close proximity could be arbararo, but they still keep looking fabricated to me.
I couldn't come up with something more concrete and common, so I'm also wondering: are there common words which use this pattern?
word-formation
asked Sep 6 at 13:32
Lazar Ljubenović
29015
add a comment |Â
up vote
9
down vote
favorite
Is there any specific rule which forbids the same suffix applied twice in a row?
Context: I've randomly tried to imagine what programming variables would be called in Esperanto and realized that "workshopFactory" is technically laborejejo, since it's a place where places for working reside.
So I tried creating more -- I've thought that you could jokingly say that you're laboremema, meaning you're eager to be eager to get working on something, in a sense that you're lazy. In a similar way you can go overboard with -aĉ-, like hundaĉaĉo.
I have a feeling that -ar- (along with my original -ej-) might be the easiest to imagine, like a group of forests in close proximity could be arbararo, but they still keep looking fabricated to me.
I couldn't come up with something more concrete and common, so I'm also wondering: are there common words which use this pattern?
word-formation
asked Sep 6 at 13:32
Lazar Ljubenović
29015
1
Not sure if this exactly counts for what you want, because its not consecutive, but the word rid·et·ul·et·o pops in my head to describe :). Leaving out one of the ets does not suffice, because then it is either not small, or not smiling, but laughing.
– Joffysloffy
Sep 6 at 18:42
Mi ne certas ke "ejo" estas bona traduko for "factory".
– PaÃ…Âlo Ebermann
Sep 6 at 20:01
@PaÃ…ÂloEbermann en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_factory_pattern Ĝi havas sencon en programa konteksto.
– Lazar Ljubenović
Sep 6 at 20:09
Eble "kreilo"? ("Factory" en la programada senco ne vere estas loko, laÃ…Â mia kompreno.)
– PaÃ…Âlo Ebermann
Sep 6 at 20:18
add a comment |Â
up vote
9
down vote
favorite
up vote
9
down vote
favorite
Is there any specific rule which forbids the same suffix applied twice in a row?
Context: I've randomly tried to imagine what programming variables would be called in Esperanto and realized that "workshopFactory" is technically laborejejo, since it's a place where places for working reside.
So I tried creating more -- I've thought that you could jokingly say that you're laboremema, meaning you're eager to be eager to get working on something, in a sense that you're lazy. In a similar way you can go overboard with -aĉ-, like hundaĉaĉo.
I have a feeling that -ar- (along with my original -ej-) might be the easiest to imagine, like a group of forests in close proximity could be arbararo, but they still keep looking fabricated to me.
I couldn't come up with something more concrete and common, so I'm also wondering: are there common words which use this pattern?
word-formation
asked Sep 6 at 13:32
Lazar Ljubenović
29015
Is there any specific rule which forbids the same suffix applied twice in a row?
Context: I've randomly tried to imagine what programming variables would be called in Esperanto and realized that "workshopFactory" is technically laborejejo, since it's a place where places for working reside.
So I tried creating more -- I've thought that you could jokingly say that you're laboremema, meaning you're eager to be eager to get working on something, in a sense that you're lazy. In a similar way you can go overboard with -aĉ-, like hundaĉaĉo.
I have a feeling that -ar- (along with my original -ej-) might be the easiest to imagine, like a group of forests in close proximity could be arbararo, but they still keep looking fabricated to me.
I couldn't come up with something more concrete and common, so I'm also wondering: are there common words which use this pattern?
word-formation
asked Sep 6 at 13:32
Lazar Ljubenović
29015
asked Sep 6 at 13:32
Lazar Ljubenović
29015
asked Sep 6 at 13:32
Lazar Ljubenović
29015
asked Sep 6 at 13:32
Lazar Ljubenović
29015
29015
1
Not sure if this exactly counts for what you want, because its not consecutive, but the word rid·et·ul·et·o pops in my head to describe :). Leaving out one of the ets does not suffice, because then it is either not small, or not smiling, but laughing.
– Joffysloffy
Sep 6 at 18:42
Mi ne certas ke "ejo" estas bona traduko for "factory".
– PaÃ…Âlo Ebermann
Sep 6 at 20:01
@PaÃ…ÂloEbermann en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_factory_pattern Ĝi havas sencon en programa konteksto.
– Lazar Ljubenović
Sep 6 at 20:09
Eble "kreilo"? ("Factory" en la programada senco ne vere estas loko, laÃ…Â mia kompreno.)
– PaÃ…Âlo Ebermann
Sep 6 at 20:18
add a comment |Â
1
Not sure if this exactly counts for what you want, because its not consecutive, but the word rid·et·ul·et·o pops in my head to describe :). Leaving out one of the ets does not suffice, because then it is either not small, or not smiling, but laughing.
– Joffysloffy
Sep 6 at 18:42
Mi ne certas ke "ejo" estas bona traduko for "factory".
– PaÃ…Âlo Ebermann
Sep 6 at 20:01
@PaÃ…ÂloEbermann en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_factory_pattern Ĝi havas sencon en programa konteksto.
– Lazar Ljubenović
Sep 6 at 20:09
Eble "kreilo"? ("Factory" en la programada senco ne vere estas loko, laÃ…Â mia kompreno.)
– PaÃ…Âlo Ebermann
Sep 6 at 20:18
1
1
Not sure if this exactly counts for what you want, because its not consecutive, but the word rid·et·ul·et·o pops in my head to describe :). Leaving out one of the ets does not suffice, because then it is either not small, or not smiling, but laughing.
– Joffysloffy
Sep 6 at 18:42
Not sure if this exactly counts for what you want, because its not consecutive, but the word rid·et·ul·et·o pops in my head to describe :). Leaving out one of the ets does not suffice, because then it is either not small, or not smiling, but laughing.
– Joffysloffy
Sep 6 at 18:42
Mi ne certas ke "ejo" estas bona traduko for "factory".
– PaÃ…Âlo Ebermann
Sep 6 at 20:01
Mi ne certas ke "ejo" estas bona traduko for "factory".
– PaÃ…Âlo Ebermann
Sep 6 at 20:01
@PaÃ…ÂloEbermann en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_factory_pattern Ĝi havas sencon en programa konteksto.
– Lazar Ljubenović
Sep 6 at 20:09
@PaÃ…ÂloEbermann en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_factory_pattern Ĝi havas sencon en programa konteksto.
– Lazar Ljubenović
Sep 6 at 20:09
Eble "kreilo"? ("Factory" en la programada senco ne vere estas loko, laÃ…Â mia kompreno.)
– PaÃ…Âlo Ebermann
Sep 6 at 20:18
Eble "kreilo"? ("Factory" en la programada senco ne vere estas loko, laÃ…Â mia kompreno.)
– PaÃ…Âlo Ebermann
Sep 6 at 20:18
add a comment |Â
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
up vote
7
down vote
There is no rule that forbids the combination of affixes in Esperanto, as long as the resulting words have a recognizable sense.*
There is, however, outside joking/mocking language (IIRC Karol PiÄ named Richard Schulz "tradukantanto", in order to mock his overly complicated style), no example known to me where the same affix would appear twice and have a clear sense.
In any case you should know that "stacking" affixes does not reinforce their meaning, so your *hundaĉaĉo wouldn't do the trick.
*There may be some minor exceptions, which however are not worth consideration here.
TL;DR: Nothing forbids you to do so, but there are hardly any use cases.
answered Sep 6 at 13:49
Cyril Robert Brosch
4,681629
2
A friend just reminded me that I once used the word denaskululoj in order to name the people on the mailing list for parents of Esperanto native speakers (denaskuloj). This may be an example of a sensible use.
– Cyril Robert Brosch
Sep 6 at 13:57
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
While I don't know any common words doing this (Mi mem estas komencanto.), I don't see any reason not to do it, especially in humorous or sarcastic speech/writing.
In more serious context, especially in clean-code programming where you want your names to be as clear and understandable as possible, splitting the words may be more appropriate: "laboreja ejo", "lobareme ema", "vere aĉa hundaĉo". (To convert these to variable names, use CamelCase or snake_case or other variants to indicate word boundaries following the applicable coding standard for the programming language or specific project/team.)
answered Sep 6 at 13:47
das-g
1386
New contributor
das-g is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
add a comment |Â
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
7
down vote
There is no rule that forbids the combination of affixes in Esperanto, as long as the resulting words have a recognizable sense.*
There is, however, outside joking/mocking language (IIRC Karol PiÄ named Richard Schulz "tradukantanto", in order to mock his overly complicated style), no example known to me where the same affix would appear twice and have a clear sense.
In any case you should know that "stacking" affixes does not reinforce their meaning, so your *hundaĉaĉo wouldn't do the trick.
*There may be some minor exceptions, which however are not worth consideration here.
TL;DR: Nothing forbids you to do so, but there are hardly any use cases.
answered Sep 6 at 13:49
Cyril Robert Brosch
4,681629
2
A friend just reminded me that I once used the word denaskululoj in order to name the people on the mailing list for parents of Esperanto native speakers (denaskuloj). This may be an example of a sensible use.
– Cyril Robert Brosch
Sep 6 at 13:57
add a comment |Â
up vote
7
down vote
There is no rule that forbids the combination of affixes in Esperanto, as long as the resulting words have a recognizable sense.*
There is, however, outside joking/mocking language (IIRC Karol PiÄ named Richard Schulz "tradukantanto", in order to mock his overly complicated style), no example known to me where the same affix would appear twice and have a clear sense.
In any case you should know that "stacking" affixes does not reinforce their meaning, so your *hundaĉaĉo wouldn't do the trick.
*There may be some minor exceptions, which however are not worth consideration here.
TL;DR: Nothing forbids you to do so, but there are hardly any use cases.
answered Sep 6 at 13:49
Cyril Robert Brosch
4,681629
2
A friend just reminded me that I once used the word denaskululoj in order to name the people on the mailing list for parents of Esperanto native speakers (denaskuloj). This may be an example of a sensible use.
– Cyril Robert Brosch
Sep 6 at 13:57
add a comment |Â
up vote
7
down vote
up vote
7
down vote
There is no rule that forbids the combination of affixes in Esperanto, as long as the resulting words have a recognizable sense.*
There is, however, outside joking/mocking language (IIRC Karol PiÄ named Richard Schulz "tradukantanto", in order to mock his overly complicated style), no example known to me where the same affix would appear twice and have a clear sense.
In any case you should know that "stacking" affixes does not reinforce their meaning, so your *hundaĉaĉo wouldn't do the trick.
*There may be some minor exceptions, which however are not worth consideration here.
TL;DR: Nothing forbids you to do so, but there are hardly any use cases.
answered Sep 6 at 13:49
Cyril Robert Brosch
4,681629
There is no rule that forbids the combination of affixes in Esperanto, as long as the resulting words have a recognizable sense.*
There is, however, outside joking/mocking language (IIRC Karol PiÄ named Richard Schulz "tradukantanto", in order to mock his overly complicated style), no example known to me where the same affix would appear twice and have a clear sense.
In any case you should know that "stacking" affixes does not reinforce their meaning, so your *hundaĉaĉo wouldn't do the trick.
*There may be some minor exceptions, which however are not worth consideration here.
TL;DR: Nothing forbids you to do so, but there are hardly any use cases.
answered Sep 6 at 13:49
Cyril Robert Brosch
4,681629
edited yesterday
answered Sep 6 at 13:49
Cyril Robert Brosch
4,681629
answered Sep 6 at 13:49
Cyril Robert Brosch
4,681629
answered Sep 6 at 13:49
Cyril Robert Brosch
4,681629
4,681629
2
A friend just reminded me that I once used the word denaskululoj in order to name the people on the mailing list for parents of Esperanto native speakers (denaskuloj). This may be an example of a sensible use.
– Cyril Robert Brosch
Sep 6 at 13:57
add a comment |Â
2
A friend just reminded me that I once used the word denaskululoj in order to name the people on the mailing list for parents of Esperanto native speakers (denaskuloj). This may be an example of a sensible use.
– Cyril Robert Brosch
Sep 6 at 13:57
2
2
A friend just reminded me that I once used the word denaskululoj in order to name the people on the mailing list for parents of Esperanto native speakers (denaskuloj). This may be an example of a sensible use.
– Cyril Robert Brosch
Sep 6 at 13:57
A friend just reminded me that I once used the word denaskululoj in order to name the people on the mailing list for parents of Esperanto native speakers (denaskuloj). This may be an example of a sensible use.
– Cyril Robert Brosch
Sep 6 at 13:57
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
While I don't know any common words doing this (Mi mem estas komencanto.), I don't see any reason not to do it, especially in humorous or sarcastic speech/writing.
In more serious context, especially in clean-code programming where you want your names to be as clear and understandable as possible, splitting the words may be more appropriate: "laboreja ejo", "lobareme ema", "vere aĉa hundaĉo". (To convert these to variable names, use CamelCase or snake_case or other variants to indicate word boundaries following the applicable coding standard for the programming language or specific project/team.)
answered Sep 6 at 13:47
das-g
1386
New contributor
das-g is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
While I don't know any common words doing this (Mi mem estas komencanto.), I don't see any reason not to do it, especially in humorous or sarcastic speech/writing.
In more serious context, especially in clean-code programming where you want your names to be as clear and understandable as possible, splitting the words may be more appropriate: "laboreja ejo", "lobareme ema", "vere aĉa hundaĉo". (To convert these to variable names, use CamelCase or snake_case or other variants to indicate word boundaries following the applicable coding standard for the programming language or specific project/team.)
answered Sep 6 at 13:47
das-g
1386
New contributor
das-g is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
While I don't know any common words doing this (Mi mem estas komencanto.), I don't see any reason not to do it, especially in humorous or sarcastic speech/writing.
In more serious context, especially in clean-code programming where you want your names to be as clear and understandable as possible, splitting the words may be more appropriate: "laboreja ejo", "lobareme ema", "vere aĉa hundaĉo". (To convert these to variable names, use CamelCase or snake_case or other variants to indicate word boundaries following the applicable coding standard for the programming language or specific project/team.)
answered Sep 6 at 13:47
das-g
1386
New contributor
das-g is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
While I don't know any common words doing this (Mi mem estas komencanto.), I don't see any reason not to do it, especially in humorous or sarcastic speech/writing.
In more serious context, especially in clean-code programming where you want your names to be as clear and understandable as possible, splitting the words may be more appropriate: "laboreja ejo", "lobareme ema", "vere aĉa hundaĉo". (To convert these to variable names, use CamelCase or snake_case or other variants to indicate word boundaries following the applicable coding standard for the programming language or specific project/team.)
answered Sep 6 at 13:47
das-g
1386
New contributor
das-g is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
answered Sep 6 at 13:47
das-g
1386
New contributor
das-g is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
answered Sep 6 at 13:47
das-g
1386
answered Sep 6 at 13:47
das-g
1386
1386
New contributor
das-g is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
New contributor
das-g is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
das-g is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
add a comment |Â
add a comment |Â
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fesperanto.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f4982%2fdouble-suffixes%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
1
Not sure if this exactly counts for what you want, because its not consecutive, but the word rid·et·ul·et·o pops in my head to describe :). Leaving out one of the ets does not suffice, because then it is either not small, or not smiling, but laughing.
– Joffysloffy
Sep 6 at 18:42
Mi ne certas ke "ejo" estas bona traduko for "factory".
– PaÃ…Âlo Ebermann
Sep 6 at 20:01
@PaÃ…ÂloEbermann en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_factory_pattern Ĝi havas sencon en programa konteksto.
– Lazar Ljubenović
Sep 6 at 20:09
Eble "kreilo"? ("Factory" en la programada senco ne vere estas loko, laÃ…Â mia kompreno.)
– PaÃ…Âlo Ebermann
Sep 6 at 20:18