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Can I use a trail camera to catch a roadside litterer?
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The roadside in our semi-rural area is relatively litter free. With very few exceptions, it can be easily picked up with one hand, and is not gross.
But one litterer is getting to me. He (or she) tosses out V8 juice cans (tangy) with depressing regularity over a 300 or so foot stretch across the road from my neighbor's property. This probably happens in the morning.
There is a good, and comfortable, lookout point on my neighbor's property which commands the entire stretch, and more, of V8-Juice-Guy's littering. I have seriously considered sitting there with a camera and catching V8JG in the act. With her permission, of course.
Drawbacks to this plan: (1) I'd have to get up too early; (2) crushing boredom and (3) ticks.
Now I wonder if a trail camera or a similar camera could do the work. The camera would have to capture the scene in daylight and give enough detail to get the license plate of a car going at 30 to 50 miles per hour. (50 mph would be reckless on our road, but some people are reckless.) And clearly identify the act of tossing out the V8 juice can with the specific car. There is not much traffic on our road.
As to what I would do with the information if I got it: I am not sure. There are obvious cons to doing anything. But I don't want to discuss my options until/if I get the information. Please confine answers to how I can get the information with an automated set-up.
Addendum on Legal Issue: Littering is illegal in Virginia. Source: Code of Virginia 33.1-346. This source specifies penalties, which include the possibility of a jail term. As for whether photographing a litterer in the act is itself illegal, I will get advice from the Fairfax County (VA) Police if I decide to go forward.
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The roadside in our semi-rural area is relatively litter free. With very few exceptions, it can be easily picked up with one hand, and is not gross.
But one litterer is getting to me. He (or she) tosses out V8 juice cans (tangy) with depressing regularity over a 300 or so foot stretch across the road from my neighbor's property. This probably happens in the morning.
There is a good, and comfortable, lookout point on my neighbor's property which commands the entire stretch, and more, of V8-Juice-Guy's littering. I have seriously considered sitting there with a camera and catching V8JG in the act. With her permission, of course.
Drawbacks to this plan: (1) I'd have to get up too early; (2) crushing boredom and (3) ticks.
Now I wonder if a trail camera or a similar camera could do the work. The camera would have to capture the scene in daylight and give enough detail to get the license plate of a car going at 30 to 50 miles per hour. (50 mph would be reckless on our road, but some people are reckless.) And clearly identify the act of tossing out the V8 juice can with the specific car. There is not much traffic on our road.
As to what I would do with the information if I got it: I am not sure. There are obvious cons to doing anything. But I don't want to discuss my options until/if I get the information. Please confine answers to how I can get the information with an automated set-up.
Addendum on Legal Issue: Littering is illegal in Virginia. Source: Code of Virginia 33.1-346. This source specifies penalties, which include the possibility of a jail term. As for whether photographing a litterer in the act is itself illegal, I will get advice from the Fairfax County (VA) Police if I decide to go forward.
leave-no-trace conservation litter cameras
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The roadside in our semi-rural area is relatively litter free. With very few exceptions, it can be easily picked up with one hand, and is not gross.
But one litterer is getting to me. He (or she) tosses out V8 juice cans (tangy) with depressing regularity over a 300 or so foot stretch across the road from my neighbor's property. This probably happens in the morning.
There is a good, and comfortable, lookout point on my neighbor's property which commands the entire stretch, and more, of V8-Juice-Guy's littering. I have seriously considered sitting there with a camera and catching V8JG in the act. With her permission, of course.
Drawbacks to this plan: (1) I'd have to get up too early; (2) crushing boredom and (3) ticks.
Now I wonder if a trail camera or a similar camera could do the work. The camera would have to capture the scene in daylight and give enough detail to get the license plate of a car going at 30 to 50 miles per hour. (50 mph would be reckless on our road, but some people are reckless.) And clearly identify the act of tossing out the V8 juice can with the specific car. There is not much traffic on our road.
As to what I would do with the information if I got it: I am not sure. There are obvious cons to doing anything. But I don't want to discuss my options until/if I get the information. Please confine answers to how I can get the information with an automated set-up.
Addendum on Legal Issue: Littering is illegal in Virginia. Source: Code of Virginia 33.1-346. This source specifies penalties, which include the possibility of a jail term. As for whether photographing a litterer in the act is itself illegal, I will get advice from the Fairfax County (VA) Police if I decide to go forward.
leave-no-trace conservation litter cameras
asked Sep 6 at 17:00
ab2
11.2k337102
The roadside in our semi-rural area is relatively litter free. With very few exceptions, it can be easily picked up with one hand, and is not gross.
But one litterer is getting to me. He (or she) tosses out V8 juice cans (tangy) with depressing regularity over a 300 or so foot stretch across the road from my neighbor's property. This probably happens in the morning.
There is a good, and comfortable, lookout point on my neighbor's property which commands the entire stretch, and more, of V8-Juice-Guy's littering. I have seriously considered sitting there with a camera and catching V8JG in the act. With her permission, of course.
Drawbacks to this plan: (1) I'd have to get up too early; (2) crushing boredom and (3) ticks.
Now I wonder if a trail camera or a similar camera could do the work. The camera would have to capture the scene in daylight and give enough detail to get the license plate of a car going at 30 to 50 miles per hour. (50 mph would be reckless on our road, but some people are reckless.) And clearly identify the act of tossing out the V8 juice can with the specific car. There is not much traffic on our road.
As to what I would do with the information if I got it: I am not sure. There are obvious cons to doing anything. But I don't want to discuss my options until/if I get the information. Please confine answers to how I can get the information with an automated set-up.
Addendum on Legal Issue: Littering is illegal in Virginia. Source: Code of Virginia 33.1-346. This source specifies penalties, which include the possibility of a jail term. As for whether photographing a litterer in the act is itself illegal, I will get advice from the Fairfax County (VA) Police if I decide to go forward.
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I personally would rather just set an action camera to record over the timespan the litterer usually comes by. Consumer trail cameras don't usually have great definition - worse than action cameras anyway - and the tossing might go unnoticed while with video, you'll grab several frames per second. You could be able to get the car, the littering, and the plates without much effort.
answered Sep 6 at 18:40
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Yes, this should work, trail cameras are used quite frequently to catch people littering.
We know this because a hidden camera caught it all on tape. Juneau police used the footage to find the woman, Janessa Sanbei, and fine her for littering -- one of five tickets issued this spring after the installation of surveillance cameras at popular illegal dumping sites across the capital city. It's a new solution to the old problem of litterbugs along remote country roads, and Juneau officials say it's working.
Juneau trash cams catch litterbugs red-handed
Officer Dustin Burke, of the Oneida Police Department, is helping to coordinate the purchase of several trail cameras, which will be placed at the most-popular dump sites. The cameras are wireless, and usually used to track game. Now, they will provide round-the-clock surveillance – a way to catch and prosecute violators, but also a deterrent.
Scott Co. eyes roadside cameras to fight litter
Just set it up to take the picture and turn the flash off so that people don't see it and get annoyed and since its going to be in a populated area see this question once it gets some answers.
answered Sep 6 at 17:08
Charlie Brumbaugh
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+1, but how disgusting, particularly about the dogs.
– ab2
Sep 6 at 17:14
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Just remember, @ab2, that the camera is what you use to obtain the evidence, but it doesn't make the accusation itself. If it isn't a criminal charge, then you will need to file civil suit as plaintiff. That is also an established precedent in US case law.
– can-ned_food
Sep 7 at 4:02
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this would be illegal in Sweden, you are not allowed to film and share films of public places link in swedish
– Rsf
Sep 7 at 8:37
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You're giving examples of catching people on dump sites when op asks will it work with a car moving 50 mph. I think people dumping trash in the woods are either parked or moving much more slowly.
– Jakub Kania
Sep 7 at 11:45
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@Rsf: neither in Germany (nor any of the EU I guess)
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2 Answers
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I personally would rather just set an action camera to record over the timespan the litterer usually comes by. Consumer trail cameras don't usually have great definition - worse than action cameras anyway - and the tossing might go unnoticed while with video, you'll grab several frames per second. You could be able to get the car, the littering, and the plates without much effort.
answered Sep 6 at 18:40
Gabriel C.
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up vote
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I personally would rather just set an action camera to record over the timespan the litterer usually comes by. Consumer trail cameras don't usually have great definition - worse than action cameras anyway - and the tossing might go unnoticed while with video, you'll grab several frames per second. You could be able to get the car, the littering, and the plates without much effort.
answered Sep 6 at 18:40
Gabriel C.
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up vote
16
down vote
accepted
up vote
16
down vote
accepted
I personally would rather just set an action camera to record over the timespan the litterer usually comes by. Consumer trail cameras don't usually have great definition - worse than action cameras anyway - and the tossing might go unnoticed while with video, you'll grab several frames per second. You could be able to get the car, the littering, and the plates without much effort.
answered Sep 6 at 18:40
Gabriel C.
84313
I personally would rather just set an action camera to record over the timespan the litterer usually comes by. Consumer trail cameras don't usually have great definition - worse than action cameras anyway - and the tossing might go unnoticed while with video, you'll grab several frames per second. You could be able to get the car, the littering, and the plates without much effort.
answered Sep 6 at 18:40
Gabriel C.
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answered Sep 6 at 18:40
Gabriel C.
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answered Sep 6 at 18:40
Gabriel C.
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answered Sep 6 at 18:40
Gabriel C.
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84313
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up vote
16
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Yes, this should work, trail cameras are used quite frequently to catch people littering.
We know this because a hidden camera caught it all on tape. Juneau police used the footage to find the woman, Janessa Sanbei, and fine her for littering -- one of five tickets issued this spring after the installation of surveillance cameras at popular illegal dumping sites across the capital city. It's a new solution to the old problem of litterbugs along remote country roads, and Juneau officials say it's working.
Juneau trash cams catch litterbugs red-handed
Officer Dustin Burke, of the Oneida Police Department, is helping to coordinate the purchase of several trail cameras, which will be placed at the most-popular dump sites. The cameras are wireless, and usually used to track game. Now, they will provide round-the-clock surveillance – a way to catch and prosecute violators, but also a deterrent.
Scott Co. eyes roadside cameras to fight litter
Just set it up to take the picture and turn the flash off so that people don't see it and get annoyed and since its going to be in a populated area see this question once it gets some answers.
answered Sep 6 at 17:08
Charlie Brumbaugh
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+1, but how disgusting, particularly about the dogs.
– ab2
Sep 6 at 17:14
1
Just remember, @ab2, that the camera is what you use to obtain the evidence, but it doesn't make the accusation itself. If it isn't a criminal charge, then you will need to file civil suit as plaintiff. That is also an established precedent in US case law.
– can-ned_food
Sep 7 at 4:02
3
this would be illegal in Sweden, you are not allowed to film and share films of public places link in swedish
– Rsf
Sep 7 at 8:37
1
You're giving examples of catching people on dump sites when op asks will it work with a car moving 50 mph. I think people dumping trash in the woods are either parked or moving much more slowly.
– Jakub Kania
Sep 7 at 11:45
1
@Rsf: neither in Germany (nor any of the EU I guess)
– cbeleites
yesterday
add a comment |Â
up vote
16
down vote
Yes, this should work, trail cameras are used quite frequently to catch people littering.
We know this because a hidden camera caught it all on tape. Juneau police used the footage to find the woman, Janessa Sanbei, and fine her for littering -- one of five tickets issued this spring after the installation of surveillance cameras at popular illegal dumping sites across the capital city. It's a new solution to the old problem of litterbugs along remote country roads, and Juneau officials say it's working.
Juneau trash cams catch litterbugs red-handed
Officer Dustin Burke, of the Oneida Police Department, is helping to coordinate the purchase of several trail cameras, which will be placed at the most-popular dump sites. The cameras are wireless, and usually used to track game. Now, they will provide round-the-clock surveillance – a way to catch and prosecute violators, but also a deterrent.
Scott Co. eyes roadside cameras to fight litter
Just set it up to take the picture and turn the flash off so that people don't see it and get annoyed and since its going to be in a populated area see this question once it gets some answers.
answered Sep 6 at 17:08
Charlie Brumbaugh
39.3k14103225
1
+1, but how disgusting, particularly about the dogs.
– ab2
Sep 6 at 17:14
1
Just remember, @ab2, that the camera is what you use to obtain the evidence, but it doesn't make the accusation itself. If it isn't a criminal charge, then you will need to file civil suit as plaintiff. That is also an established precedent in US case law.
– can-ned_food
Sep 7 at 4:02
3
this would be illegal in Sweden, you are not allowed to film and share films of public places link in swedish
– Rsf
Sep 7 at 8:37
1
You're giving examples of catching people on dump sites when op asks will it work with a car moving 50 mph. I think people dumping trash in the woods are either parked or moving much more slowly.
– Jakub Kania
Sep 7 at 11:45
1
@Rsf: neither in Germany (nor any of the EU I guess)
– cbeleites
yesterday
add a comment |Â
up vote
16
down vote
up vote
16
down vote
Yes, this should work, trail cameras are used quite frequently to catch people littering.
We know this because a hidden camera caught it all on tape. Juneau police used the footage to find the woman, Janessa Sanbei, and fine her for littering -- one of five tickets issued this spring after the installation of surveillance cameras at popular illegal dumping sites across the capital city. It's a new solution to the old problem of litterbugs along remote country roads, and Juneau officials say it's working.
Juneau trash cams catch litterbugs red-handed
Officer Dustin Burke, of the Oneida Police Department, is helping to coordinate the purchase of several trail cameras, which will be placed at the most-popular dump sites. The cameras are wireless, and usually used to track game. Now, they will provide round-the-clock surveillance – a way to catch and prosecute violators, but also a deterrent.
Scott Co. eyes roadside cameras to fight litter
Just set it up to take the picture and turn the flash off so that people don't see it and get annoyed and since its going to be in a populated area see this question once it gets some answers.
answered Sep 6 at 17:08
Charlie Brumbaugh
39.3k14103225
Yes, this should work, trail cameras are used quite frequently to catch people littering.
We know this because a hidden camera caught it all on tape. Juneau police used the footage to find the woman, Janessa Sanbei, and fine her for littering -- one of five tickets issued this spring after the installation of surveillance cameras at popular illegal dumping sites across the capital city. It's a new solution to the old problem of litterbugs along remote country roads, and Juneau officials say it's working.
Juneau trash cams catch litterbugs red-handed
Officer Dustin Burke, of the Oneida Police Department, is helping to coordinate the purchase of several trail cameras, which will be placed at the most-popular dump sites. The cameras are wireless, and usually used to track game. Now, they will provide round-the-clock surveillance – a way to catch and prosecute violators, but also a deterrent.
Scott Co. eyes roadside cameras to fight litter
Just set it up to take the picture and turn the flash off so that people don't see it and get annoyed and since its going to be in a populated area see this question once it gets some answers.
answered Sep 6 at 17:08
Charlie Brumbaugh
39.3k14103225
answered Sep 6 at 17:08
Charlie Brumbaugh
39.3k14103225
answered Sep 6 at 17:08
Charlie Brumbaugh
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answered Sep 6 at 17:08
Charlie Brumbaugh
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+1, but how disgusting, particularly about the dogs.
– ab2
Sep 6 at 17:14
1
Just remember, @ab2, that the camera is what you use to obtain the evidence, but it doesn't make the accusation itself. If it isn't a criminal charge, then you will need to file civil suit as plaintiff. That is also an established precedent in US case law.
– can-ned_food
Sep 7 at 4:02
3
this would be illegal in Sweden, you are not allowed to film and share films of public places link in swedish
– Rsf
Sep 7 at 8:37
1
You're giving examples of catching people on dump sites when op asks will it work with a car moving 50 mph. I think people dumping trash in the woods are either parked or moving much more slowly.
– Jakub Kania
Sep 7 at 11:45
1
@Rsf: neither in Germany (nor any of the EU I guess)
– cbeleites
yesterday
add a comment |Â
1
+1, but how disgusting, particularly about the dogs.
– ab2
Sep 6 at 17:14
1
Just remember, @ab2, that the camera is what you use to obtain the evidence, but it doesn't make the accusation itself. If it isn't a criminal charge, then you will need to file civil suit as plaintiff. That is also an established precedent in US case law.
– can-ned_food
Sep 7 at 4:02
3
this would be illegal in Sweden, you are not allowed to film and share films of public places link in swedish
– Rsf
Sep 7 at 8:37
1
You're giving examples of catching people on dump sites when op asks will it work with a car moving 50 mph. I think people dumping trash in the woods are either parked or moving much more slowly.
– Jakub Kania
Sep 7 at 11:45
1
@Rsf: neither in Germany (nor any of the EU I guess)
– cbeleites
yesterday
1
1
+1, but how disgusting, particularly about the dogs.
– ab2
Sep 6 at 17:14
+1, but how disgusting, particularly about the dogs.
– ab2
Sep 6 at 17:14
1
1
Just remember, @ab2, that the camera is what you use to obtain the evidence, but it doesn't make the accusation itself. If it isn't a criminal charge, then you will need to file civil suit as plaintiff. That is also an established precedent in US case law.
– can-ned_food
Sep 7 at 4:02
Just remember, @ab2, that the camera is what you use to obtain the evidence, but it doesn't make the accusation itself. If it isn't a criminal charge, then you will need to file civil suit as plaintiff. That is also an established precedent in US case law.
– can-ned_food
Sep 7 at 4:02
3
3
this would be illegal in Sweden, you are not allowed to film and share films of public places link in swedish
– Rsf
Sep 7 at 8:37
this would be illegal in Sweden, you are not allowed to film and share films of public places link in swedish
– Rsf
Sep 7 at 8:37
1
1
You're giving examples of catching people on dump sites when op asks will it work with a car moving 50 mph. I think people dumping trash in the woods are either parked or moving much more slowly.
– Jakub Kania
Sep 7 at 11:45
You're giving examples of catching people on dump sites when op asks will it work with a car moving 50 mph. I think people dumping trash in the woods are either parked or moving much more slowly.
– Jakub Kania
Sep 7 at 11:45
1
1
@Rsf: neither in Germany (nor any of the EU I guess)
– cbeleites
yesterday
@Rsf: neither in Germany (nor any of the EU I guess)
– cbeleites
yesterday
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