Compactness of a set in the complex plane.
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Consider $$A=Big(z_1,z_2) in BbbC^2 : z_1^2+z_2^2=1Big$$
Is $A$ compact?
My try: If $A$ is compact, then it is closed and bounded
But it is not bounded! Since $(n,sqrt1-n^2);nin BbbN$ satisfies this and $BbbN$ is unbounded. So not compact.
Am I right? If not, any help?
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Consider $$A=Big(z_1,z_2) in BbbC^2 : z_1^2+z_2^2=1Big$$
Is $A$ compact?
My try: If $A$ is compact, then it is closed and bounded
But it is not bounded! Since $(n,sqrt1-n^2);nin BbbN$ satisfies this and $BbbN$ is unbounded. So not compact.
Am I right? If not, any help?
complex-analysis complex-geometry
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In a competition, this question would be confusing since the corresponding equation in $mathbb R^2$ corresponds to a compact set.You are right, this set is unbounded, hence definitely not compact.
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Sep 6 at 5:57
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complex analysis tag may be needed instead.
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Consider $$A=Big(z_1,z_2) in BbbC^2 : z_1^2+z_2^2=1Big$$
Is $A$ compact?
My try: If $A$ is compact, then it is closed and bounded
But it is not bounded! Since $(n,sqrt1-n^2);nin BbbN$ satisfies this and $BbbN$ is unbounded. So not compact.
Am I right? If not, any help?
complex-analysis complex-geometry
Consider $$A=Big(z_1,z_2) in BbbC^2 : z_1^2+z_2^2=1Big$$
Is $A$ compact?
My try: If $A$ is compact, then it is closed and bounded
But it is not bounded! Since $(n,sqrt1-n^2);nin BbbN$ satisfies this and $BbbN$ is unbounded. So not compact.
Am I right? If not, any help?
complex-analysis complex-geometry
edited Sep 6 at 6:14
Filippo De Bortoli
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asked Sep 6 at 5:55
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In a competition, this question would be confusing since the corresponding equation in $mathbb R^2$ corresponds to a compact set.You are right, this set is unbounded, hence definitely not compact.
â Ã°ÃÂÃÂþý òÃÂûûð þûþàüÃÂûûñÃÂÃÂó
Sep 6 at 5:57
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complex analysis tag may be needed instead.
â mrs
Sep 6 at 5:59
add a comment |Â
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In a competition, this question would be confusing since the corresponding equation in $mathbb R^2$ corresponds to a compact set.You are right, this set is unbounded, hence definitely not compact.
â Ã°ÃÂÃÂþý òÃÂûûð þûþàüÃÂûûñÃÂÃÂó
Sep 6 at 5:57
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complex analysis tag may be needed instead.
â mrs
Sep 6 at 5:59
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In a competition, this question would be confusing since the corresponding equation in $mathbb R^2$ corresponds to a compact set.You are right, this set is unbounded, hence definitely not compact.
â Ã°ÃÂÃÂþý òÃÂûûð þûþàüÃÂûûñÃÂÃÂó
Sep 6 at 5:57
In a competition, this question would be confusing since the corresponding equation in $mathbb R^2$ corresponds to a compact set.You are right, this set is unbounded, hence definitely not compact.
â Ã°ÃÂÃÂþý òÃÂûûð þûþàüÃÂûûñÃÂÃÂó
Sep 6 at 5:57
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1
complex analysis tag may be needed instead.
â mrs
Sep 6 at 5:59
complex analysis tag may be needed instead.
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Sep 6 at 5:59
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I personally dislike the use of the square root sign in this context (it stops being well-defined the moment you start using it on negative numbers), but that may be fixed by writing, say, $(n, isqrtn^2-1)$ instead. However, not everyone are as opposed to writing $sqrt-1$ as I am.
Apart from that it looks good. Well done!
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@LDM Then you (and probably your teacher and / or textbook) are not as opposed to the idea as I am. I think it is not well-defined but I realize there are other conventions. Just be advised that rules you have learned, like $sqrtab=sqrt asqrt b$, stops working in that case.
â Arthur
Sep 6 at 6:10
Ok! I understand! Thank you sir
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Sep 6 at 6:11
Good remark.( +1)
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1 Answer
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active
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I personally dislike the use of the square root sign in this context (it stops being well-defined the moment you start using it on negative numbers), but that may be fixed by writing, say, $(n, isqrtn^2-1)$ instead. However, not everyone are as opposed to writing $sqrt-1$ as I am.
Apart from that it looks good. Well done!
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@LDM Then you (and probably your teacher and / or textbook) are not as opposed to the idea as I am. I think it is not well-defined but I realize there are other conventions. Just be advised that rules you have learned, like $sqrtab=sqrt asqrt b$, stops working in that case.
â Arthur
Sep 6 at 6:10
Ok! I understand! Thank you sir
â LDM
Sep 6 at 6:11
Good remark.( +1)
â Math_QED
Sep 6 at 7:29
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up vote
8
down vote
accepted
I personally dislike the use of the square root sign in this context (it stops being well-defined the moment you start using it on negative numbers), but that may be fixed by writing, say, $(n, isqrtn^2-1)$ instead. However, not everyone are as opposed to writing $sqrt-1$ as I am.
Apart from that it looks good. Well done!
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@LDM Then you (and probably your teacher and / or textbook) are not as opposed to the idea as I am. I think it is not well-defined but I realize there are other conventions. Just be advised that rules you have learned, like $sqrtab=sqrt asqrt b$, stops working in that case.
â Arthur
Sep 6 at 6:10
Ok! I understand! Thank you sir
â LDM
Sep 6 at 6:11
Good remark.( +1)
â Math_QED
Sep 6 at 7:29
add a comment |Â
up vote
8
down vote
accepted
up vote
8
down vote
accepted
I personally dislike the use of the square root sign in this context (it stops being well-defined the moment you start using it on negative numbers), but that may be fixed by writing, say, $(n, isqrtn^2-1)$ instead. However, not everyone are as opposed to writing $sqrt-1$ as I am.
Apart from that it looks good. Well done!
I personally dislike the use of the square root sign in this context (it stops being well-defined the moment you start using it on negative numbers), but that may be fixed by writing, say, $(n, isqrtn^2-1)$ instead. However, not everyone are as opposed to writing $sqrt-1$ as I am.
Apart from that it looks good. Well done!
edited Sep 6 at 6:08
answered Sep 6 at 6:05
Arthur
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@LDM Then you (and probably your teacher and / or textbook) are not as opposed to the idea as I am. I think it is not well-defined but I realize there are other conventions. Just be advised that rules you have learned, like $sqrtab=sqrt asqrt b$, stops working in that case.
â Arthur
Sep 6 at 6:10
Ok! I understand! Thank you sir
â LDM
Sep 6 at 6:11
Good remark.( +1)
â Math_QED
Sep 6 at 7:29
add a comment |Â
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@LDM Then you (and probably your teacher and / or textbook) are not as opposed to the idea as I am. I think it is not well-defined but I realize there are other conventions. Just be advised that rules you have learned, like $sqrtab=sqrt asqrt b$, stops working in that case.
â Arthur
Sep 6 at 6:10
Ok! I understand! Thank you sir
â LDM
Sep 6 at 6:11
Good remark.( +1)
â Math_QED
Sep 6 at 7:29
1
1
@LDM Then you (and probably your teacher and / or textbook) are not as opposed to the idea as I am. I think it is not well-defined but I realize there are other conventions. Just be advised that rules you have learned, like $sqrtab=sqrt asqrt b$, stops working in that case.
â Arthur
Sep 6 at 6:10
@LDM Then you (and probably your teacher and / or textbook) are not as opposed to the idea as I am. I think it is not well-defined but I realize there are other conventions. Just be advised that rules you have learned, like $sqrtab=sqrt asqrt b$, stops working in that case.
â Arthur
Sep 6 at 6:10
Ok! I understand! Thank you sir
â LDM
Sep 6 at 6:11
Ok! I understand! Thank you sir
â LDM
Sep 6 at 6:11
Good remark.( +1)
â Math_QED
Sep 6 at 7:29
Good remark.( +1)
â Math_QED
Sep 6 at 7:29
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In a competition, this question would be confusing since the corresponding equation in $mathbb R^2$ corresponds to a compact set.You are right, this set is unbounded, hence definitely not compact.
â Ã°ÃÂÃÂþý òÃÂûûð þûþàüÃÂûûñÃÂÃÂó
Sep 6 at 5:57
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complex analysis tag may be needed instead.
â mrs
Sep 6 at 5:59