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Professor does not care about cheating, what should TA do?
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I am a PhD student, working as a Homework marking TA in a school where cheating is extremely blatant. The university has an extremely strict policy against cheating. Hundreds of students in math courses alone are reported each year, and suspensions are given to severe/repeat offenders. I have personally reported cheating many times.
Based on this environment, most courses have shifted away from Homework grades, and more toward Quiz/Test grades.
My course is a low-bar mid-level math course, very likely to be the last math course ever taken by the students who enrolled in the course.
The marking distribution of my course is done in a way where the homework mark weight is so absurdly high, that cheating on homework would almost guarantee a pass.
I had realized this at the beginning of September, and discussed with (confronted) the instructor.
The short summary of the response is:
The instructor doesn't care about cheating.
I can elaborate more on what we discussed, but I hope the community can believe my judgement.
The professor doesn't want to put in the effort to deal with cheaters.
The professor thinks the students cheating would not be overly unfair to other students who don't cheat.
The professor also does not want me to try to catch cheaters.
I have made clear that cheating on homework almost guarantees a pass, and he agrees, and is ok with this.
The homework are all questions from the textbook, where the solution manual is readily available on google.
In this week's homework, I have found more than 50 students who have copied from the solution manual, where at least 40 students copied word for word (if reported, the cheating done can be easily proved by the school).
I suspect I only caught a portion of all cheaters, as buying solutions at this university is too blatant. However, I am unable to cross-reference the cheaters who did not copy from the solution manual. (Too time consuming due to too many students)
I would like to ask the community of my next steps.
In my previous courses, I would simply report to instructor, and they take care of the reporting to university. However, since I already confronted the instructor, and understands his/her position on cheating:
If I were to report the cheating to him/her:
Would I anger the professor, since this is against his/her wishes?
Would I build a tense relationship with him/her following this? (There is still a whole semester ahead, and possibly years in the same university.)
What would be done in the end? What if he ignores the report, what should my next steps be?
If I were to report to the undergrad chair:
Would it be inappropriate to skip reporting to instructor first?
Would I also build a tense relationship with the instructor by this move?
I am almost positive that there would be action by the undergrad chair on the cheating behavior.
I could also report to both simultaneously.
I could also do nothing at all, in which case the cheating would without a doubt continue for the whole term, with the vast majority of students taking part.
I personally disagree with the professor, as I believe:
It is unfair for the minority of students who don't cheat.
(Especially due to the high homework marks, a mark curve is highly unlikely, so the students who don't cheat are truly getting less marks because of the cheaters.)
Any help would be greatly greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance, and thanks for reading.
Edit:
The instructor is in the beginning of his/her career, and not retiring.
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I am a PhD student, working as a Homework marking TA in a school where cheating is extremely blatant. The university has an extremely strict policy against cheating. Hundreds of students in math courses alone are reported each year, and suspensions are given to severe/repeat offenders. I have personally reported cheating many times.
Based on this environment, most courses have shifted away from Homework grades, and more toward Quiz/Test grades.
My course is a low-bar mid-level math course, very likely to be the last math course ever taken by the students who enrolled in the course.
The marking distribution of my course is done in a way where the homework mark weight is so absurdly high, that cheating on homework would almost guarantee a pass.
I had realized this at the beginning of September, and discussed with (confronted) the instructor.
The short summary of the response is:
The instructor doesn't care about cheating.
I can elaborate more on what we discussed, but I hope the community can believe my judgement.
The professor doesn't want to put in the effort to deal with cheaters.
The professor thinks the students cheating would not be overly unfair to other students who don't cheat.
The professor also does not want me to try to catch cheaters.
I have made clear that cheating on homework almost guarantees a pass, and he agrees, and is ok with this.
The homework are all questions from the textbook, where the solution manual is readily available on google.
In this week's homework, I have found more than 50 students who have copied from the solution manual, where at least 40 students copied word for word (if reported, the cheating done can be easily proved by the school).
I suspect I only caught a portion of all cheaters, as buying solutions at this university is too blatant. However, I am unable to cross-reference the cheaters who did not copy from the solution manual. (Too time consuming due to too many students)
I would like to ask the community of my next steps.
In my previous courses, I would simply report to instructor, and they take care of the reporting to university. However, since I already confronted the instructor, and understands his/her position on cheating:
If I were to report the cheating to him/her:
Would I anger the professor, since this is against his/her wishes?
Would I build a tense relationship with him/her following this? (There is still a whole semester ahead, and possibly years in the same university.)
What would be done in the end? What if he ignores the report, what should my next steps be?
If I were to report to the undergrad chair:
Would it be inappropriate to skip reporting to instructor first?
Would I also build a tense relationship with the instructor by this move?
I am almost positive that there would be action by the undergrad chair on the cheating behavior.
I could also report to both simultaneously.
I could also do nothing at all, in which case the cheating would without a doubt continue for the whole term, with the vast majority of students taking part.
I personally disagree with the professor, as I believe:
It is unfair for the minority of students who don't cheat.
(Especially due to the high homework marks, a mark curve is highly unlikely, so the students who don't cheat are truly getting less marks because of the cheaters.)
Any help would be greatly greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance, and thanks for reading.
Edit:
The instructor is in the beginning of his/her career, and not retiring.
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I am a PhD student, working as a Homework marking TA in a school where cheating is extremely blatant. The university has an extremely strict policy against cheating. Hundreds of students in math courses alone are reported each year, and suspensions are given to severe/repeat offenders. I have personally reported cheating many times.
Based on this environment, most courses have shifted away from Homework grades, and more toward Quiz/Test grades.
My course is a low-bar mid-level math course, very likely to be the last math course ever taken by the students who enrolled in the course.
The marking distribution of my course is done in a way where the homework mark weight is so absurdly high, that cheating on homework would almost guarantee a pass.
I had realized this at the beginning of September, and discussed with (confronted) the instructor.
The short summary of the response is:
The instructor doesn't care about cheating.
I can elaborate more on what we discussed, but I hope the community can believe my judgement.
The professor doesn't want to put in the effort to deal with cheaters.
The professor thinks the students cheating would not be overly unfair to other students who don't cheat.
The professor also does not want me to try to catch cheaters.
I have made clear that cheating on homework almost guarantees a pass, and he agrees, and is ok with this.
The homework are all questions from the textbook, where the solution manual is readily available on google.
In this week's homework, I have found more than 50 students who have copied from the solution manual, where at least 40 students copied word for word (if reported, the cheating done can be easily proved by the school).
I suspect I only caught a portion of all cheaters, as buying solutions at this university is too blatant. However, I am unable to cross-reference the cheaters who did not copy from the solution manual. (Too time consuming due to too many students)
I would like to ask the community of my next steps.
In my previous courses, I would simply report to instructor, and they take care of the reporting to university. However, since I already confronted the instructor, and understands his/her position on cheating:
If I were to report the cheating to him/her:
Would I anger the professor, since this is against his/her wishes?
Would I build a tense relationship with him/her following this? (There is still a whole semester ahead, and possibly years in the same university.)
What would be done in the end? What if he ignores the report, what should my next steps be?
If I were to report to the undergrad chair:
Would it be inappropriate to skip reporting to instructor first?
Would I also build a tense relationship with the instructor by this move?
I am almost positive that there would be action by the undergrad chair on the cheating behavior.
I could also report to both simultaneously.
I could also do nothing at all, in which case the cheating would without a doubt continue for the whole term, with the vast majority of students taking part.
I personally disagree with the professor, as I believe:
It is unfair for the minority of students who don't cheat.
(Especially due to the high homework marks, a mark curve is highly unlikely, so the students who don't cheat are truly getting less marks because of the cheaters.)
Any help would be greatly greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance, and thanks for reading.
Edit:
The instructor is in the beginning of his/her career, and not retiring.
cheating homework instructor
asked 3 hours ago
Radiant Dawn
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I am a PhD student, working as a Homework marking TA in a school where cheating is extremely blatant. The university has an extremely strict policy against cheating. Hundreds of students in math courses alone are reported each year, and suspensions are given to severe/repeat offenders. I have personally reported cheating many times.
Based on this environment, most courses have shifted away from Homework grades, and more toward Quiz/Test grades.
My course is a low-bar mid-level math course, very likely to be the last math course ever taken by the students who enrolled in the course.
The marking distribution of my course is done in a way where the homework mark weight is so absurdly high, that cheating on homework would almost guarantee a pass.
I had realized this at the beginning of September, and discussed with (confronted) the instructor.
The short summary of the response is:
The instructor doesn't care about cheating.
I can elaborate more on what we discussed, but I hope the community can believe my judgement.
The professor doesn't want to put in the effort to deal with cheaters.
The professor thinks the students cheating would not be overly unfair to other students who don't cheat.
The professor also does not want me to try to catch cheaters.
I have made clear that cheating on homework almost guarantees a pass, and he agrees, and is ok with this.
The homework are all questions from the textbook, where the solution manual is readily available on google.
In this week's homework, I have found more than 50 students who have copied from the solution manual, where at least 40 students copied word for word (if reported, the cheating done can be easily proved by the school).
I suspect I only caught a portion of all cheaters, as buying solutions at this university is too blatant. However, I am unable to cross-reference the cheaters who did not copy from the solution manual. (Too time consuming due to too many students)
I would like to ask the community of my next steps.
In my previous courses, I would simply report to instructor, and they take care of the reporting to university. However, since I already confronted the instructor, and understands his/her position on cheating:
If I were to report the cheating to him/her:
Would I anger the professor, since this is against his/her wishes?
Would I build a tense relationship with him/her following this? (There is still a whole semester ahead, and possibly years in the same university.)
What would be done in the end? What if he ignores the report, what should my next steps be?
If I were to report to the undergrad chair:
Would it be inappropriate to skip reporting to instructor first?
Would I also build a tense relationship with the instructor by this move?
I am almost positive that there would be action by the undergrad chair on the cheating behavior.
I could also report to both simultaneously.
I could also do nothing at all, in which case the cheating would without a doubt continue for the whole term, with the vast majority of students taking part.
I personally disagree with the professor, as I believe:
It is unfair for the minority of students who don't cheat.
(Especially due to the high homework marks, a mark curve is highly unlikely, so the students who don't cheat are truly getting less marks because of the cheaters.)
Any help would be greatly greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance, and thanks for reading.
Edit:
The instructor is in the beginning of his/her career, and not retiring.
cheating homework instructor
cheating homework instructor
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Radiant Dawn
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This is an issue that the professor can't be bothered with: either retirement is soon or they know they are "safe" for another reason.
You could try raising the issue hypothetically with the department head and see how that goes... If they are "best buddies" then BE CAREFUL...
If you can't change this then move on : focus on other courses and ask not to be on this course next time round.
A more challenging course of action is to move to another institution, but that has its own issues...
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Hello. Thanks for your reply. Sorry, I should be more clear. The instructor is in the beginning of his/her career, and not retiring.
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With the professor against you reporting the matter in some way. You could try reporting the matter to the undergrad chair using a proxy or anonymously. You are justified to report to the undergrad chair because the professor seems too reluctant on the issue to help you.
I'd advice you to seek alternatives maybe move to another course or institution but you cure no illness by dying but by treating it.
All the best.
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This is an issue that the professor can't be bothered with: either retirement is soon or they know they are "safe" for another reason.
You could try raising the issue hypothetically with the department head and see how that goes... If they are "best buddies" then BE CAREFUL...
If you can't change this then move on : focus on other courses and ask not to be on this course next time round.
A more challenging course of action is to move to another institution, but that has its own issues...
answered 1 hour ago
Solar Mike
9,01632038
Hello. Thanks for your reply. Sorry, I should be more clear. The instructor is in the beginning of his/her career, and not retiring.
– Radiant Dawn
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
This is an issue that the professor can't be bothered with: either retirement is soon or they know they are "safe" for another reason.
You could try raising the issue hypothetically with the department head and see how that goes... If they are "best buddies" then BE CAREFUL...
If you can't change this then move on : focus on other courses and ask not to be on this course next time round.
A more challenging course of action is to move to another institution, but that has its own issues...
answered 1 hour ago
Solar Mike
9,01632038
Hello. Thanks for your reply. Sorry, I should be more clear. The instructor is in the beginning of his/her career, and not retiring.
– Radiant Dawn
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
This is an issue that the professor can't be bothered with: either retirement is soon or they know they are "safe" for another reason.
You could try raising the issue hypothetically with the department head and see how that goes... If they are "best buddies" then BE CAREFUL...
If you can't change this then move on : focus on other courses and ask not to be on this course next time round.
A more challenging course of action is to move to another institution, but that has its own issues...
answered 1 hour ago
Solar Mike
9,01632038
This is an issue that the professor can't be bothered with: either retirement is soon or they know they are "safe" for another reason.
You could try raising the issue hypothetically with the department head and see how that goes... If they are "best buddies" then BE CAREFUL...
If you can't change this then move on : focus on other courses and ask not to be on this course next time round.
A more challenging course of action is to move to another institution, but that has its own issues...
answered 1 hour ago
Solar Mike
9,01632038
answered 1 hour ago
Solar Mike
9,01632038
answered 1 hour ago
Solar Mike
9,01632038
answered 1 hour ago
Solar Mike
9,01632038
9,01632038
Hello. Thanks for your reply. Sorry, I should be more clear. The instructor is in the beginning of his/her career, and not retiring.
– Radiant Dawn
1 hour ago
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Hello. Thanks for your reply. Sorry, I should be more clear. The instructor is in the beginning of his/her career, and not retiring.
– Radiant Dawn
1 hour ago
Hello. Thanks for your reply. Sorry, I should be more clear. The instructor is in the beginning of his/her career, and not retiring.
– Radiant Dawn
1 hour ago
Hello. Thanks for your reply. Sorry, I should be more clear. The instructor is in the beginning of his/her career, and not retiring.
– Radiant Dawn
1 hour ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
With the professor against you reporting the matter in some way. You could try reporting the matter to the undergrad chair using a proxy or anonymously. You are justified to report to the undergrad chair because the professor seems too reluctant on the issue to help you.
I'd advice you to seek alternatives maybe move to another course or institution but you cure no illness by dying but by treating it.
All the best.
answered 23 mins ago
stmogakaa
315
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
With the professor against you reporting the matter in some way. You could try reporting the matter to the undergrad chair using a proxy or anonymously. You are justified to report to the undergrad chair because the professor seems too reluctant on the issue to help you.
I'd advice you to seek alternatives maybe move to another course or institution but you cure no illness by dying but by treating it.
All the best.
answered 23 mins ago
stmogakaa
315
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
With the professor against you reporting the matter in some way. You could try reporting the matter to the undergrad chair using a proxy or anonymously. You are justified to report to the undergrad chair because the professor seems too reluctant on the issue to help you.
I'd advice you to seek alternatives maybe move to another course or institution but you cure no illness by dying but by treating it.
All the best.
answered 23 mins ago
stmogakaa
315
With the professor against you reporting the matter in some way. You could try reporting the matter to the undergrad chair using a proxy or anonymously. You are justified to report to the undergrad chair because the professor seems too reluctant on the issue to help you.
I'd advice you to seek alternatives maybe move to another course or institution but you cure no illness by dying but by treating it.
All the best.
answered 23 mins ago
stmogakaa
315
answered 23 mins ago
stmogakaa
315
answered 23 mins ago
stmogakaa
315
answered 23 mins ago
stmogakaa
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315
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