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What blessing is recited before eating hearts of palm? This grows from a tree but is there any reason one might a bracha other than ha-eitz? Are there more than one opinion on this and if yes what are those?
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What blessing is recited before eating hearts of palm? This grows from a tree but is there any reason one might a bracha other than ha-eitz? Are there more than one opinion on this and if yes what are those?
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more of a meta-question, but why does this question appear to have been asked 52 minutes ago with answers dating from 2010?
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What blessing is recited before eating hearts of palm? This grows from a tree but is there any reason one might a bracha other than ha-eitz? Are there more than one opinion on this and if yes what are those?
halacha blessing food
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What blessing is recited before eating hearts of palm? This grows from a tree but is there any reason one might a bracha other than ha-eitz? Are there more than one opinion on this and if yes what are those?
halacha blessing food
halacha blessing food
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more of a meta-question, but why does this question appear to have been asked 52 minutes ago with answers dating from 2010?
– rosends
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@rosends an old post was merged into this one
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more of a meta-question, but why does this question appear to have been asked 52 minutes ago with answers dating from 2010?
– rosends
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@rosends an old post was merged into this one
– Double AA♦
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more of a meta-question, but why does this question appear to have been asked 52 minutes ago with answers dating from 2010?
– rosends
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more of a meta-question, but why does this question appear to have been asked 52 minutes ago with answers dating from 2010?
– rosends
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@rosends an old post was merged into this one
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While it is true that the Shulchan Aruch cited by Alex says to make a shehakol, the reasoning given in the mishna berurah is using outdated metzius, since hearts of palm is an industry where trees are specifically planted to harvest the fibers. Although I have no source, I would venture to say it is haetz since that is the only produce that the farmers intend on harvesting from the tree and thereby becomes its main fruit, despite the fact that the tree may have the potential to grow other fruits.
answered Jun 21 '10 at 1:47
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That's odd?! I thought hearts of palm are not a fruit of the tree, rather they are an actual part of the tree itself. Why would Pri Haeitz be appropriate?
– Yahu
Jun 22 '10 at 2:13
On second thought check out my answer.
– Yahu
Jun 22 '10 at 2:17
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Yahu, I can't find your answer. Are you asking a lashon kasha? Peri just means that it is edible as a food. It need not be a separate product given off by the tree to be called peri. A raya to this is the Rosh's psak that smelling cinnamon (which is bark) gets a "reiach tov lepeiros". The mashmaos of the reasoning for our psak (to make atzei besamim) is that cinnamon is not a besem leachila (its an enhancer).
– YDK
Jun 22 '10 at 5:24
Shkoach for the Rosh Psak
– SimchasTorah
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YDK I removed my answer since I discovered it was the same link as YS's second link.
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According to the Star K the proper Bracha is The proper Bracha is Ho'etz.
http://www.star-k.org/cons-faqs-issues.htm#bracha2
The Sefer V’zot Haberacha’s ruling is that they are Ha’adoma
Rav Bodner of the Laws of Brochos makes a distinction between cultivated and wildly grown. According to him, hearts of palm that come from Brazil are wildly grown and would receive a Shehakol, while hearts of palm from Ecuador are cultivated and would receive a Ha’adoma.
See Here:
http://berachot.org/Q+A/q2.html
answered Jun 21 '10 at 1:57
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Sorry YS I did not see your second link!
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Shulchan Aruch (Orach Chaim 204:1) says Shehakol. Mishnah Berurah (ibid. :9) explains that even though it grows from the ground (and thus by rights ought to be Ha'adamah), it is downgraded because "people don't plant a tree with the intention of eating this part when it's soft, since that prevents the branches from growing."
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While it is true that the Shulchan Aruch cited by Alex says to make a shehakol, the reasoning given in the mishna berurah is using outdated metzius, since hearts of palm is an industry where trees are specifically planted to harvest the fibers. Although I have no source, I would venture to say it is haetz since that is the only produce that the farmers intend on harvesting from the tree and thereby becomes its main fruit, despite the fact that the tree may have the potential to grow other fruits.
answered Jun 21 '10 at 1:47
YDK
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That's odd?! I thought hearts of palm are not a fruit of the tree, rather they are an actual part of the tree itself. Why would Pri Haeitz be appropriate?
– Yahu
Jun 22 '10 at 2:13
On second thought check out my answer.
– Yahu
Jun 22 '10 at 2:17
1
Yahu, I can't find your answer. Are you asking a lashon kasha? Peri just means that it is edible as a food. It need not be a separate product given off by the tree to be called peri. A raya to this is the Rosh's psak that smelling cinnamon (which is bark) gets a "reiach tov lepeiros". The mashmaos of the reasoning for our psak (to make atzei besamim) is that cinnamon is not a besem leachila (its an enhancer).
– YDK
Jun 22 '10 at 5:24
Shkoach for the Rosh Psak
– SimchasTorah
Jun 22 '10 at 10:10
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YDK I removed my answer since I discovered it was the same link as YS's second link.
– Yahu
Jun 23 '10 at 0:00
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While it is true that the Shulchan Aruch cited by Alex says to make a shehakol, the reasoning given in the mishna berurah is using outdated metzius, since hearts of palm is an industry where trees are specifically planted to harvest the fibers. Although I have no source, I would venture to say it is haetz since that is the only produce that the farmers intend on harvesting from the tree and thereby becomes its main fruit, despite the fact that the tree may have the potential to grow other fruits.
answered Jun 21 '10 at 1:47
YDK
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That's odd?! I thought hearts of palm are not a fruit of the tree, rather they are an actual part of the tree itself. Why would Pri Haeitz be appropriate?
– Yahu
Jun 22 '10 at 2:13
On second thought check out my answer.
– Yahu
Jun 22 '10 at 2:17
1
Yahu, I can't find your answer. Are you asking a lashon kasha? Peri just means that it is edible as a food. It need not be a separate product given off by the tree to be called peri. A raya to this is the Rosh's psak that smelling cinnamon (which is bark) gets a "reiach tov lepeiros". The mashmaos of the reasoning for our psak (to make atzei besamim) is that cinnamon is not a besem leachila (its an enhancer).
– YDK
Jun 22 '10 at 5:24
Shkoach for the Rosh Psak
– SimchasTorah
Jun 22 '10 at 10:10
1
YDK I removed my answer since I discovered it was the same link as YS's second link.
– Yahu
Jun 23 '10 at 0:00
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up vote
3
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up vote
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While it is true that the Shulchan Aruch cited by Alex says to make a shehakol, the reasoning given in the mishna berurah is using outdated metzius, since hearts of palm is an industry where trees are specifically planted to harvest the fibers. Although I have no source, I would venture to say it is haetz since that is the only produce that the farmers intend on harvesting from the tree and thereby becomes its main fruit, despite the fact that the tree may have the potential to grow other fruits.
answered Jun 21 '10 at 1:47
YDK
25.4k12965
While it is true that the Shulchan Aruch cited by Alex says to make a shehakol, the reasoning given in the mishna berurah is using outdated metzius, since hearts of palm is an industry where trees are specifically planted to harvest the fibers. Although I have no source, I would venture to say it is haetz since that is the only produce that the farmers intend on harvesting from the tree and thereby becomes its main fruit, despite the fact that the tree may have the potential to grow other fruits.
answered Jun 21 '10 at 1:47
YDK
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answered Jun 21 '10 at 1:47
YDK
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answered Jun 21 '10 at 1:47
YDK
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answered Jun 21 '10 at 1:47
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That's odd?! I thought hearts of palm are not a fruit of the tree, rather they are an actual part of the tree itself. Why would Pri Haeitz be appropriate?
– Yahu
Jun 22 '10 at 2:13
On second thought check out my answer.
– Yahu
Jun 22 '10 at 2:17
1
Yahu, I can't find your answer. Are you asking a lashon kasha? Peri just means that it is edible as a food. It need not be a separate product given off by the tree to be called peri. A raya to this is the Rosh's psak that smelling cinnamon (which is bark) gets a "reiach tov lepeiros". The mashmaos of the reasoning for our psak (to make atzei besamim) is that cinnamon is not a besem leachila (its an enhancer).
– YDK
Jun 22 '10 at 5:24
Shkoach for the Rosh Psak
– SimchasTorah
Jun 22 '10 at 10:10
1
YDK I removed my answer since I discovered it was the same link as YS's second link.
– Yahu
Jun 23 '10 at 0:00
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That's odd?! I thought hearts of palm are not a fruit of the tree, rather they are an actual part of the tree itself. Why would Pri Haeitz be appropriate?
– Yahu
Jun 22 '10 at 2:13
On second thought check out my answer.
– Yahu
Jun 22 '10 at 2:17
1
Yahu, I can't find your answer. Are you asking a lashon kasha? Peri just means that it is edible as a food. It need not be a separate product given off by the tree to be called peri. A raya to this is the Rosh's psak that smelling cinnamon (which is bark) gets a "reiach tov lepeiros". The mashmaos of the reasoning for our psak (to make atzei besamim) is that cinnamon is not a besem leachila (its an enhancer).
– YDK
Jun 22 '10 at 5:24
Shkoach for the Rosh Psak
– SimchasTorah
Jun 22 '10 at 10:10
1
YDK I removed my answer since I discovered it was the same link as YS's second link.
– Yahu
Jun 23 '10 at 0:00
That's odd?! I thought hearts of palm are not a fruit of the tree, rather they are an actual part of the tree itself. Why would Pri Haeitz be appropriate?
– Yahu
Jun 22 '10 at 2:13
That's odd?! I thought hearts of palm are not a fruit of the tree, rather they are an actual part of the tree itself. Why would Pri Haeitz be appropriate?
– Yahu
Jun 22 '10 at 2:13
On second thought check out my answer.
– Yahu
Jun 22 '10 at 2:17
On second thought check out my answer.
– Yahu
Jun 22 '10 at 2:17
1
1
Yahu, I can't find your answer. Are you asking a lashon kasha? Peri just means that it is edible as a food. It need not be a separate product given off by the tree to be called peri. A raya to this is the Rosh's psak that smelling cinnamon (which is bark) gets a "reiach tov lepeiros". The mashmaos of the reasoning for our psak (to make atzei besamim) is that cinnamon is not a besem leachila (its an enhancer).
– YDK
Jun 22 '10 at 5:24
Yahu, I can't find your answer. Are you asking a lashon kasha? Peri just means that it is edible as a food. It need not be a separate product given off by the tree to be called peri. A raya to this is the Rosh's psak that smelling cinnamon (which is bark) gets a "reiach tov lepeiros". The mashmaos of the reasoning for our psak (to make atzei besamim) is that cinnamon is not a besem leachila (its an enhancer).
– YDK
Jun 22 '10 at 5:24
Shkoach for the Rosh Psak
– SimchasTorah
Jun 22 '10 at 10:10
Shkoach for the Rosh Psak
– SimchasTorah
Jun 22 '10 at 10:10
1
1
YDK I removed my answer since I discovered it was the same link as YS's second link.
– Yahu
Jun 23 '10 at 0:00
YDK I removed my answer since I discovered it was the same link as YS's second link.
– Yahu
Jun 23 '10 at 0:00
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According to the Star K the proper Bracha is The proper Bracha is Ho'etz.
http://www.star-k.org/cons-faqs-issues.htm#bracha2
The Sefer V’zot Haberacha’s ruling is that they are Ha’adoma
Rav Bodner of the Laws of Brochos makes a distinction between cultivated and wildly grown. According to him, hearts of palm that come from Brazil are wildly grown and would receive a Shehakol, while hearts of palm from Ecuador are cultivated and would receive a Ha’adoma.
See Here:
http://berachot.org/Q+A/q2.html
answered Jun 21 '10 at 1:57
SimchasTorah
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Sorry YS I did not see your second link!
– Yahu
Jun 22 '10 at 2:35
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According to the Star K the proper Bracha is The proper Bracha is Ho'etz.
http://www.star-k.org/cons-faqs-issues.htm#bracha2
The Sefer V’zot Haberacha’s ruling is that they are Ha’adoma
Rav Bodner of the Laws of Brochos makes a distinction between cultivated and wildly grown. According to him, hearts of palm that come from Brazil are wildly grown and would receive a Shehakol, while hearts of palm from Ecuador are cultivated and would receive a Ha’adoma.
See Here:
http://berachot.org/Q+A/q2.html
answered Jun 21 '10 at 1:57
SimchasTorah
21.7k128126
Sorry YS I did not see your second link!
– Yahu
Jun 22 '10 at 2:35
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up vote
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According to the Star K the proper Bracha is The proper Bracha is Ho'etz.
http://www.star-k.org/cons-faqs-issues.htm#bracha2
The Sefer V’zot Haberacha’s ruling is that they are Ha’adoma
Rav Bodner of the Laws of Brochos makes a distinction between cultivated and wildly grown. According to him, hearts of palm that come from Brazil are wildly grown and would receive a Shehakol, while hearts of palm from Ecuador are cultivated and would receive a Ha’adoma.
See Here:
http://berachot.org/Q+A/q2.html
answered Jun 21 '10 at 1:57
SimchasTorah
21.7k128126
According to the Star K the proper Bracha is The proper Bracha is Ho'etz.
http://www.star-k.org/cons-faqs-issues.htm#bracha2
The Sefer V’zot Haberacha’s ruling is that they are Ha’adoma
Rav Bodner of the Laws of Brochos makes a distinction between cultivated and wildly grown. According to him, hearts of palm that come from Brazil are wildly grown and would receive a Shehakol, while hearts of palm from Ecuador are cultivated and would receive a Ha’adoma.
See Here:
http://berachot.org/Q+A/q2.html
answered Jun 21 '10 at 1:57
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answered Jun 21 '10 at 1:57
SimchasTorah
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answered Jun 21 '10 at 1:57
SimchasTorah
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answered Jun 21 '10 at 1:57
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Sorry YS I did not see your second link!
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Sorry YS I did not see your second link!
– Yahu
Jun 22 '10 at 2:35
Sorry YS I did not see your second link!
– Yahu
Jun 22 '10 at 2:35
Sorry YS I did not see your second link!
– Yahu
Jun 22 '10 at 2:35
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Shulchan Aruch (Orach Chaim 204:1) says Shehakol. Mishnah Berurah (ibid. :9) explains that even though it grows from the ground (and thus by rights ought to be Ha'adamah), it is downgraded because "people don't plant a tree with the intention of eating this part when it's soft, since that prevents the branches from growing."
answered Jun 20 '10 at 23:47
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Shulchan Aruch (Orach Chaim 204:1) says Shehakol. Mishnah Berurah (ibid. :9) explains that even though it grows from the ground (and thus by rights ought to be Ha'adamah), it is downgraded because "people don't plant a tree with the intention of eating this part when it's soft, since that prevents the branches from growing."
answered Jun 20 '10 at 23:47
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Shulchan Aruch (Orach Chaim 204:1) says Shehakol. Mishnah Berurah (ibid. :9) explains that even though it grows from the ground (and thus by rights ought to be Ha'adamah), it is downgraded because "people don't plant a tree with the intention of eating this part when it's soft, since that prevents the branches from growing."
answered Jun 20 '10 at 23:47
Alex
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Shulchan Aruch (Orach Chaim 204:1) says Shehakol. Mishnah Berurah (ibid. :9) explains that even though it grows from the ground (and thus by rights ought to be Ha'adamah), it is downgraded because "people don't plant a tree with the intention of eating this part when it's soft, since that prevents the branches from growing."
answered Jun 20 '10 at 23:47
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answered Jun 20 '10 at 23:47
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answered Jun 20 '10 at 23:47
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answered Jun 20 '10 at 23:47
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more of a meta-question, but why does this question appear to have been asked 52 minutes ago with answers dating from 2010?
– rosends
21 mins ago
@rosends an old post was merged into this one
– Double AA♦
12 mins ago