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I want to understand this new reasoning: A US citizen can enter Canada by car showing proof of citizenship and valid ID ie birth certificate and valid drivers license. But why does that same US citizen need to reenter the US with a passport? It did not use to be this way. Why has this become a requirement?
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This CBP page says Enhanced Driver's Licenses are still enough, have you heard differently? If so where?
– AakashM
21 mins ago
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@AakashM only five states issue enhanced driver's licenses, so US citizens who reside elsewhere are unable to use them. They also cost extra, so even residents of the states that do offer them are unlikely to have them unless they cross the border frequently.
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I want to understand this new reasoning: A US citizen can enter Canada by car showing proof of citizenship and valid ID ie birth certificate and valid drivers license. But why does that same US citizen need to reenter the US with a passport? It did not use to be this way. Why has this become a requirement?
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I want to understand this new reasoning: A US citizen can enter Canada by car showing proof of citizenship and valid ID ie birth certificate and valid drivers license. But why does that same US citizen need to reenter the US with a passport? It did not use to be this way. Why has this become a requirement?
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This CBP page says Enhanced Driver's Licenses are still enough, have you heard differently? If so where?
– AakashM
21 mins ago
1
@AakashM only five states issue enhanced driver's licenses, so US citizens who reside elsewhere are unable to use them. They also cost extra, so even residents of the states that do offer them are unlikely to have them unless they cross the border frequently.
– phoog
16 mins ago
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This CBP page says Enhanced Driver's Licenses are still enough, have you heard differently? If so where?
– AakashM
21 mins ago
1
@AakashM only five states issue enhanced driver's licenses, so US citizens who reside elsewhere are unable to use them. They also cost extra, so even residents of the states that do offer them are unlikely to have them unless they cross the border frequently.
– phoog
16 mins ago
This CBP page says Enhanced Driver's Licenses are still enough, have you heard differently? If so where?
– AakashM
21 mins ago
This CBP page says Enhanced Driver's Licenses are still enough, have you heard differently? If so where?
– AakashM
21 mins ago
1
1
@AakashM only five states issue enhanced driver's licenses, so US citizens who reside elsewhere are unable to use them. They also cost extra, so even residents of the states that do offer them are unlikely to have them unless they cross the border frequently.
– phoog
16 mins ago
@AakashM only five states issue enhanced driver's licenses, so US citizens who reside elsewhere are unable to use them. They also cost extra, so even residents of the states that do offer them are unlikely to have them unless they cross the border frequently.
– phoog
16 mins ago
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This came about because of the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, which in turn arose from a recommendation of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, also known as the 9/11 Commission:
WHTI is the joint Department of State (DOS) and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) plan to implement a key 9/11 Commission recommendation and the statutory mandates of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (IRTPA). IRTPA, in part, required the DHS and DOS to develop and implement a plan to require all travelers, U.S. citizens and foreign nationals alike, to present a passport or other acceptable document that denotes identity and citizenship when entering the United States.
The problem here for the US government is that US citizens have an implicit right to enter the US. So in fact anyone who can prove their US citizenship at the border will be admitted, although someone without a specified document should expect to be delayed, perhaps significantly, and there is a decidedly increased risk of refusal if the CBP officers decide that the evidence being presented is of questionable authenticity.
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They even have a flyer they give to US citizens who enter without a passport or WHTI compliant document that explains the requirements and advises people to get one of the documents. But they can't deny you entry if you can show you're a US citizen some other way. It just takes several hours. I got one of these flyers early on when these first went into effect, but I misplaced it and lately I've been entering on my passport so I can't really dig the flyer up right now...and I don't really feel like getting another one the hard way!
– Michael Hampton
11 mins ago
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But why does that same US citizen need to reenter the US with a passport?
They don't; they can also use a passport card, enhanced driving licence/state ID or Truster Traveller card, among others. AMong these, the NEXUS card is also accepted by air (if flying from Canada)
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Canada decides what's required to enter Canada; the US decides what's required to enter the US. Their governments make these decisions independently and don't necessarily have to agree.
The US's passport requirement for citizens was created as part of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (IRTPA), Public Law 108-458. See Section 7209 (b) (1):
Development of plan.--The Secretary of Homeland
Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall
develop and implement a plan as expeditiously as possible to
require a passport or other document, or combination of
documents, deemed by the Secretary of Homeland Security to be
sufficient to denote identity and citizenship, for all travel
into the United States by United States citizens and by
categories of individuals for whom documentation requirements
have previously been waived [...]
Just above that, Congress explained why they were adding this requirement:
Findings.--Consistent with the report of the National Commission
on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, Congress makes the
following findings:
(1) Existing procedures allow many individuals to enter the
United States by showing minimal identification or without
showing any identification.
(2) The planning for the terrorist attacks of September 11,
2001, demonstrates that terrorists study and exploit United
States vulnerabilities.
(3) Additional safeguards are needed to ensure that
terrorists cannot enter the United States.
The passport requirement was eventually implemented as part of the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative and took effect on June 1, 2009.
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This came about because of the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, which in turn arose from a recommendation of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, also known as the 9/11 Commission:
WHTI is the joint Department of State (DOS) and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) plan to implement a key 9/11 Commission recommendation and the statutory mandates of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (IRTPA). IRTPA, in part, required the DHS and DOS to develop and implement a plan to require all travelers, U.S. citizens and foreign nationals alike, to present a passport or other acceptable document that denotes identity and citizenship when entering the United States.
The problem here for the US government is that US citizens have an implicit right to enter the US. So in fact anyone who can prove their US citizenship at the border will be admitted, although someone without a specified document should expect to be delayed, perhaps significantly, and there is a decidedly increased risk of refusal if the CBP officers decide that the evidence being presented is of questionable authenticity.
answered 19 mins ago
phoog
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They even have a flyer they give to US citizens who enter without a passport or WHTI compliant document that explains the requirements and advises people to get one of the documents. But they can't deny you entry if you can show you're a US citizen some other way. It just takes several hours. I got one of these flyers early on when these first went into effect, but I misplaced it and lately I've been entering on my passport so I can't really dig the flyer up right now...and I don't really feel like getting another one the hard way!
– Michael Hampton
11 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
This came about because of the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, which in turn arose from a recommendation of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, also known as the 9/11 Commission:
WHTI is the joint Department of State (DOS) and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) plan to implement a key 9/11 Commission recommendation and the statutory mandates of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (IRTPA). IRTPA, in part, required the DHS and DOS to develop and implement a plan to require all travelers, U.S. citizens and foreign nationals alike, to present a passport or other acceptable document that denotes identity and citizenship when entering the United States.
The problem here for the US government is that US citizens have an implicit right to enter the US. So in fact anyone who can prove their US citizenship at the border will be admitted, although someone without a specified document should expect to be delayed, perhaps significantly, and there is a decidedly increased risk of refusal if the CBP officers decide that the evidence being presented is of questionable authenticity.
answered 19 mins ago
phoog
63.7k9140202
They even have a flyer they give to US citizens who enter without a passport or WHTI compliant document that explains the requirements and advises people to get one of the documents. But they can't deny you entry if you can show you're a US citizen some other way. It just takes several hours. I got one of these flyers early on when these first went into effect, but I misplaced it and lately I've been entering on my passport so I can't really dig the flyer up right now...and I don't really feel like getting another one the hard way!
– Michael Hampton
11 mins ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
This came about because of the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, which in turn arose from a recommendation of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, also known as the 9/11 Commission:
WHTI is the joint Department of State (DOS) and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) plan to implement a key 9/11 Commission recommendation and the statutory mandates of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (IRTPA). IRTPA, in part, required the DHS and DOS to develop and implement a plan to require all travelers, U.S. citizens and foreign nationals alike, to present a passport or other acceptable document that denotes identity and citizenship when entering the United States.
The problem here for the US government is that US citizens have an implicit right to enter the US. So in fact anyone who can prove their US citizenship at the border will be admitted, although someone without a specified document should expect to be delayed, perhaps significantly, and there is a decidedly increased risk of refusal if the CBP officers decide that the evidence being presented is of questionable authenticity.
answered 19 mins ago
phoog
63.7k9140202
This came about because of the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, which in turn arose from a recommendation of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, also known as the 9/11 Commission:
WHTI is the joint Department of State (DOS) and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) plan to implement a key 9/11 Commission recommendation and the statutory mandates of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (IRTPA). IRTPA, in part, required the DHS and DOS to develop and implement a plan to require all travelers, U.S. citizens and foreign nationals alike, to present a passport or other acceptable document that denotes identity and citizenship when entering the United States.
The problem here for the US government is that US citizens have an implicit right to enter the US. So in fact anyone who can prove their US citizenship at the border will be admitted, although someone without a specified document should expect to be delayed, perhaps significantly, and there is a decidedly increased risk of refusal if the CBP officers decide that the evidence being presented is of questionable authenticity.
answered 19 mins ago
phoog
63.7k9140202
answered 19 mins ago
phoog
63.7k9140202
answered 19 mins ago
phoog
63.7k9140202
answered 19 mins ago
phoog
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They even have a flyer they give to US citizens who enter without a passport or WHTI compliant document that explains the requirements and advises people to get one of the documents. But they can't deny you entry if you can show you're a US citizen some other way. It just takes several hours. I got one of these flyers early on when these first went into effect, but I misplaced it and lately I've been entering on my passport so I can't really dig the flyer up right now...and I don't really feel like getting another one the hard way!
– Michael Hampton
11 mins ago
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They even have a flyer they give to US citizens who enter without a passport or WHTI compliant document that explains the requirements and advises people to get one of the documents. But they can't deny you entry if you can show you're a US citizen some other way. It just takes several hours. I got one of these flyers early on when these first went into effect, but I misplaced it and lately I've been entering on my passport so I can't really dig the flyer up right now...and I don't really feel like getting another one the hard way!
– Michael Hampton
11 mins ago
They even have a flyer they give to US citizens who enter without a passport or WHTI compliant document that explains the requirements and advises people to get one of the documents. But they can't deny you entry if you can show you're a US citizen some other way. It just takes several hours. I got one of these flyers early on when these first went into effect, but I misplaced it and lately I've been entering on my passport so I can't really dig the flyer up right now...and I don't really feel like getting another one the hard way!
– Michael Hampton
11 mins ago
They even have a flyer they give to US citizens who enter without a passport or WHTI compliant document that explains the requirements and advises people to get one of the documents. But they can't deny you entry if you can show you're a US citizen some other way. It just takes several hours. I got one of these flyers early on when these first went into effect, but I misplaced it and lately I've been entering on my passport so I can't really dig the flyer up right now...and I don't really feel like getting another one the hard way!
– Michael Hampton
11 mins ago
add a comment |Â
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But why does that same US citizen need to reenter the US with a passport?
They don't; they can also use a passport card, enhanced driving licence/state ID or Truster Traveller card, among others. AMong these, the NEXUS card is also accepted by air (if flying from Canada)
answered 19 mins ago
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But why does that same US citizen need to reenter the US with a passport?
They don't; they can also use a passport card, enhanced driving licence/state ID or Truster Traveller card, among others. AMong these, the NEXUS card is also accepted by air (if flying from Canada)
answered 19 mins ago
Coke
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up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
But why does that same US citizen need to reenter the US with a passport?
They don't; they can also use a passport card, enhanced driving licence/state ID or Truster Traveller card, among others. AMong these, the NEXUS card is also accepted by air (if flying from Canada)
answered 19 mins ago
Coke
49.6k990221
But why does that same US citizen need to reenter the US with a passport?
They don't; they can also use a passport card, enhanced driving licence/state ID or Truster Traveller card, among others. AMong these, the NEXUS card is also accepted by air (if flying from Canada)
answered 19 mins ago
Coke
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Coke
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Coke
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Canada decides what's required to enter Canada; the US decides what's required to enter the US. Their governments make these decisions independently and don't necessarily have to agree.
The US's passport requirement for citizens was created as part of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (IRTPA), Public Law 108-458. See Section 7209 (b) (1):
Development of plan.--The Secretary of Homeland
Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall
develop and implement a plan as expeditiously as possible to
require a passport or other document, or combination of
documents, deemed by the Secretary of Homeland Security to be
sufficient to denote identity and citizenship, for all travel
into the United States by United States citizens and by
categories of individuals for whom documentation requirements
have previously been waived [...]
Just above that, Congress explained why they were adding this requirement:
Findings.--Consistent with the report of the National Commission
on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, Congress makes the
following findings:
(1) Existing procedures allow many individuals to enter the
United States by showing minimal identification or without
showing any identification.
(2) The planning for the terrorist attacks of September 11,
2001, demonstrates that terrorists study and exploit United
States vulnerabilities.
(3) Additional safeguards are needed to ensure that
terrorists cannot enter the United States.
The passport requirement was eventually implemented as part of the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative and took effect on June 1, 2009.
answered 20 mins ago
Nate Eldredge
20.3k675100
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up vote
2
down vote
Canada decides what's required to enter Canada; the US decides what's required to enter the US. Their governments make these decisions independently and don't necessarily have to agree.
The US's passport requirement for citizens was created as part of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (IRTPA), Public Law 108-458. See Section 7209 (b) (1):
Development of plan.--The Secretary of Homeland
Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall
develop and implement a plan as expeditiously as possible to
require a passport or other document, or combination of
documents, deemed by the Secretary of Homeland Security to be
sufficient to denote identity and citizenship, for all travel
into the United States by United States citizens and by
categories of individuals for whom documentation requirements
have previously been waived [...]
Just above that, Congress explained why they were adding this requirement:
Findings.--Consistent with the report of the National Commission
on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, Congress makes the
following findings:
(1) Existing procedures allow many individuals to enter the
United States by showing minimal identification or without
showing any identification.
(2) The planning for the terrorist attacks of September 11,
2001, demonstrates that terrorists study and exploit United
States vulnerabilities.
(3) Additional safeguards are needed to ensure that
terrorists cannot enter the United States.
The passport requirement was eventually implemented as part of the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative and took effect on June 1, 2009.
answered 20 mins ago
Nate Eldredge
20.3k675100
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
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up vote
2
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Canada decides what's required to enter Canada; the US decides what's required to enter the US. Their governments make these decisions independently and don't necessarily have to agree.
The US's passport requirement for citizens was created as part of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (IRTPA), Public Law 108-458. See Section 7209 (b) (1):
Development of plan.--The Secretary of Homeland
Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall
develop and implement a plan as expeditiously as possible to
require a passport or other document, or combination of
documents, deemed by the Secretary of Homeland Security to be
sufficient to denote identity and citizenship, for all travel
into the United States by United States citizens and by
categories of individuals for whom documentation requirements
have previously been waived [...]
Just above that, Congress explained why they were adding this requirement:
Findings.--Consistent with the report of the National Commission
on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, Congress makes the
following findings:
(1) Existing procedures allow many individuals to enter the
United States by showing minimal identification or without
showing any identification.
(2) The planning for the terrorist attacks of September 11,
2001, demonstrates that terrorists study and exploit United
States vulnerabilities.
(3) Additional safeguards are needed to ensure that
terrorists cannot enter the United States.
The passport requirement was eventually implemented as part of the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative and took effect on June 1, 2009.
answered 20 mins ago
Nate Eldredge
20.3k675100
Canada decides what's required to enter Canada; the US decides what's required to enter the US. Their governments make these decisions independently and don't necessarily have to agree.
The US's passport requirement for citizens was created as part of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (IRTPA), Public Law 108-458. See Section 7209 (b) (1):
Development of plan.--The Secretary of Homeland
Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall
develop and implement a plan as expeditiously as possible to
require a passport or other document, or combination of
documents, deemed by the Secretary of Homeland Security to be
sufficient to denote identity and citizenship, for all travel
into the United States by United States citizens and by
categories of individuals for whom documentation requirements
have previously been waived [...]
Just above that, Congress explained why they were adding this requirement:
Findings.--Consistent with the report of the National Commission
on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, Congress makes the
following findings:
(1) Existing procedures allow many individuals to enter the
United States by showing minimal identification or without
showing any identification.
(2) The planning for the terrorist attacks of September 11,
2001, demonstrates that terrorists study and exploit United
States vulnerabilities.
(3) Additional safeguards are needed to ensure that
terrorists cannot enter the United States.
The passport requirement was eventually implemented as part of the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative and took effect on June 1, 2009.
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This CBP page says Enhanced Driver's Licenses are still enough, have you heard differently? If so where?
– AakashM
21 mins ago
1
@AakashM only five states issue enhanced driver's licenses, so US citizens who reside elsewhere are unable to use them. They also cost extra, so even residents of the states that do offer them are unlikely to have them unless they cross the border frequently.
– phoog
16 mins ago