How many scry ones equal infinite scry 1 shortcut?

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Can infinite scry 1 be shortcut by searching through your deck?



It appears that with a scry 1 ability and some infinite repeat mechanism, one can cut to the card one desires, keeping the deck in order as a shortcut. But let's say I can't repeat it infinitely for some reason (maybe it has a cost). If my library has 40 cards in it, do I need to be able to scry 1 40 times to shortcut this? How many minimum do I need to do this every time, and do my odds of getting the card I want on top of the deck increase faster as I am able to trigger more scry one repeats?



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  • Did you read the explanation in my answer to that question regarding the details of the scry 1 shortcut?
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Can infinite scry 1 be shortcut by searching through your deck?



It appears that with a scry 1 ability and some infinite repeat mechanism, one can cut to the card one desires, keeping the deck in order as a shortcut. But let's say I can't repeat it infinitely for some reason (maybe it has a cost). If my library has 40 cards in it, do I need to be able to scry 1 40 times to shortcut this? How many minimum do I need to do this every time, and do my odds of getting the card I want on top of the deck increase faster as I am able to trigger more scry one repeats?



I don't know much about MTG, so please pardon my vernacular.










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  • Did you read the explanation in my answer to that question regarding the details of the scry 1 shortcut?
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Can infinite scry 1 be shortcut by searching through your deck?



It appears that with a scry 1 ability and some infinite repeat mechanism, one can cut to the card one desires, keeping the deck in order as a shortcut. But let's say I can't repeat it infinitely for some reason (maybe it has a cost). If my library has 40 cards in it, do I need to be able to scry 1 40 times to shortcut this? How many minimum do I need to do this every time, and do my odds of getting the card I want on top of the deck increase faster as I am able to trigger more scry one repeats?



I don't know much about MTG, so please pardon my vernacular.










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Can infinite scry 1 be shortcut by searching through your deck?



It appears that with a scry 1 ability and some infinite repeat mechanism, one can cut to the card one desires, keeping the deck in order as a shortcut. But let's say I can't repeat it infinitely for some reason (maybe it has a cost). If my library has 40 cards in it, do I need to be able to scry 1 40 times to shortcut this? How many minimum do I need to do this every time, and do my odds of getting the card I want on top of the deck increase faster as I am able to trigger more scry one repeats?



I don't know much about MTG, so please pardon my vernacular.







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  • Did you read the explanation in my answer to that question regarding the details of the scry 1 shortcut?
    – murgatroid99♦
    3 hours ago










  • Yes, but does that answer my question? If it does, please explain.
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  • Did you read the explanation in my answer to that question regarding the details of the scry 1 shortcut?
    – murgatroid99♦
    3 hours ago










  • Yes, but does that answer my question? If it does, please explain.
    – user45266
    3 hours ago















Did you read the explanation in my answer to that question regarding the details of the scry 1 shortcut?
– murgatroid99♦
3 hours ago




Did you read the explanation in my answer to that question regarding the details of the scry 1 shortcut?
– murgatroid99♦
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Yes, but does that answer my question? If it does, please explain.
– user45266
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Yes, but does that answer my question? If it does, please explain.
– user45266
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In order to shortcut some finite number of "scry 1"s as "look at your entire deck, then cut the deck at a specific point to put a chosen card on top", you should be able to scry 1 a number of times equal to at least twice the number of cards in your library (plus or minus a couple). So, if you have 40 cards in your library, you should only use that shortcut if you can scry 1 at least 80 times.



The reason for this is that when you perform that shortcut, you see the order of the cards below the desired card as well as above. In order to get the same information by repeatedly scrying, you would have to put the card you are looking for on the bottom, then cycle through the entire library again to put it back on top. In the worst case, if the card you are looking for is almost at the bottom of your library, you would have to cycle through your entire library twice, once looking for that card and once cycling it back to the top after looking past it, for a total of (almost) 2 scrys for every card in your library.






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    In order to shortcut some finite number of "scry 1"s as "look at your entire deck, then cut the deck at a specific point to put a chosen card on top", you should be able to scry 1 a number of times equal to at least twice the number of cards in your library (plus or minus a couple). So, if you have 40 cards in your library, you should only use that shortcut if you can scry 1 at least 80 times.



    The reason for this is that when you perform that shortcut, you see the order of the cards below the desired card as well as above. In order to get the same information by repeatedly scrying, you would have to put the card you are looking for on the bottom, then cycle through the entire library again to put it back on top. In the worst case, if the card you are looking for is almost at the bottom of your library, you would have to cycle through your entire library twice, once looking for that card and once cycling it back to the top after looking past it, for a total of (almost) 2 scrys for every card in your library.






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      In order to shortcut some finite number of "scry 1"s as "look at your entire deck, then cut the deck at a specific point to put a chosen card on top", you should be able to scry 1 a number of times equal to at least twice the number of cards in your library (plus or minus a couple). So, if you have 40 cards in your library, you should only use that shortcut if you can scry 1 at least 80 times.



      The reason for this is that when you perform that shortcut, you see the order of the cards below the desired card as well as above. In order to get the same information by repeatedly scrying, you would have to put the card you are looking for on the bottom, then cycle through the entire library again to put it back on top. In the worst case, if the card you are looking for is almost at the bottom of your library, you would have to cycle through your entire library twice, once looking for that card and once cycling it back to the top after looking past it, for a total of (almost) 2 scrys for every card in your library.






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        In order to shortcut some finite number of "scry 1"s as "look at your entire deck, then cut the deck at a specific point to put a chosen card on top", you should be able to scry 1 a number of times equal to at least twice the number of cards in your library (plus or minus a couple). So, if you have 40 cards in your library, you should only use that shortcut if you can scry 1 at least 80 times.



        The reason for this is that when you perform that shortcut, you see the order of the cards below the desired card as well as above. In order to get the same information by repeatedly scrying, you would have to put the card you are looking for on the bottom, then cycle through the entire library again to put it back on top. In the worst case, if the card you are looking for is almost at the bottom of your library, you would have to cycle through your entire library twice, once looking for that card and once cycling it back to the top after looking past it, for a total of (almost) 2 scrys for every card in your library.






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        In order to shortcut some finite number of "scry 1"s as "look at your entire deck, then cut the deck at a specific point to put a chosen card on top", you should be able to scry 1 a number of times equal to at least twice the number of cards in your library (plus or minus a couple). So, if you have 40 cards in your library, you should only use that shortcut if you can scry 1 at least 80 times.



        The reason for this is that when you perform that shortcut, you see the order of the cards below the desired card as well as above. In order to get the same information by repeatedly scrying, you would have to put the card you are looking for on the bottom, then cycle through the entire library again to put it back on top. In the worst case, if the card you are looking for is almost at the bottom of your library, you would have to cycle through your entire library twice, once looking for that card and once cycling it back to the top after looking past it, for a total of (almost) 2 scrys for every card in your library.







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