Can the additional attack action granted by Haste be used to shove a creature?
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Shoving (PHB pg.195) states:
Using the attack action, you can make a specia melee attack to shove a creature...
Can the additional attack action granted by the Haste spell also be used to shove a creature?
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Shoving (PHB pg.195) states:
Using the attack action, you can make a specia melee attack to shove a creature...
Can the additional attack action granted by the Haste spell also be used to shove a creature?
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Shoving (PHB pg.195) states:
Using the attack action, you can make a specia melee attack to shove a creature...
Can the additional attack action granted by the Haste spell also be used to shove a creature?
dnd-5e spells attack
Shoving (PHB pg.195) states:
Using the attack action, you can make a specia melee attack to shove a creature...
Can the additional attack action granted by the Haste spell also be used to shove a creature?
dnd-5e spells attack
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Haste states:
[...] it gains an additional action on each of its turns. That action can be used only to take the Attack (one weapon attack only) [...] action.
Shoving a creature is a:
[...] special melee attack [...]
but it's not stated to be a weapon attack.
Therefore, you cannot use your hasted action to shove a creature.
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While this is definitely the RAW, I feel the "one weapon attack only" was to prevent abuse with Extra Attack and the like. But since there's no proof of RAI, this is the better answer. I would definitely rule it differently, though.
– Jason_c_o
3 hours ago
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It could be read as "if you use the Attack action to make a weapon attack then you only get one" rather than "you can only use the Attack action to make one weapon attack" (plus the other actions it states). It is a bit ambiguous. On the one hand, it specifically lists other actions such as Dodge etc but does not list Shove. On the other hand, it probably wouldn't hurt to allow it.
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Haste states:
[...] it gains an additional action on each of its turns. That action can be used only to take the Attack (one weapon attack only) [...] action.
Shoving a creature is a:
[...] special melee attack [...]
but it's not stated to be a weapon attack.
Therefore, you cannot use your hasted action to shove a creature.
1
While this is definitely the RAW, I feel the "one weapon attack only" was to prevent abuse with Extra Attack and the like. But since there's no proof of RAI, this is the better answer. I would definitely rule it differently, though.
– Jason_c_o
3 hours ago
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It could be read as "if you use the Attack action to make a weapon attack then you only get one" rather than "you can only use the Attack action to make one weapon attack" (plus the other actions it states). It is a bit ambiguous. On the one hand, it specifically lists other actions such as Dodge etc but does not list Shove. On the other hand, it probably wouldn't hurt to allow it.
– PJRZ
2 hours ago
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Haste states:
[...] it gains an additional action on each of its turns. That action can be used only to take the Attack (one weapon attack only) [...] action.
Shoving a creature is a:
[...] special melee attack [...]
but it's not stated to be a weapon attack.
Therefore, you cannot use your hasted action to shove a creature.
1
While this is definitely the RAW, I feel the "one weapon attack only" was to prevent abuse with Extra Attack and the like. But since there's no proof of RAI, this is the better answer. I would definitely rule it differently, though.
– Jason_c_o
3 hours ago
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It could be read as "if you use the Attack action to make a weapon attack then you only get one" rather than "you can only use the Attack action to make one weapon attack" (plus the other actions it states). It is a bit ambiguous. On the one hand, it specifically lists other actions such as Dodge etc but does not list Shove. On the other hand, it probably wouldn't hurt to allow it.
– PJRZ
2 hours ago
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Haste states:
[...] it gains an additional action on each of its turns. That action can be used only to take the Attack (one weapon attack only) [...] action.
Shoving a creature is a:
[...] special melee attack [...]
but it's not stated to be a weapon attack.
Therefore, you cannot use your hasted action to shove a creature.
Haste states:
[...] it gains an additional action on each of its turns. That action can be used only to take the Attack (one weapon attack only) [...] action.
Shoving a creature is a:
[...] special melee attack [...]
but it's not stated to be a weapon attack.
Therefore, you cannot use your hasted action to shove a creature.
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While this is definitely the RAW, I feel the "one weapon attack only" was to prevent abuse with Extra Attack and the like. But since there's no proof of RAI, this is the better answer. I would definitely rule it differently, though.
– Jason_c_o
3 hours ago
2
It could be read as "if you use the Attack action to make a weapon attack then you only get one" rather than "you can only use the Attack action to make one weapon attack" (plus the other actions it states). It is a bit ambiguous. On the one hand, it specifically lists other actions such as Dodge etc but does not list Shove. On the other hand, it probably wouldn't hurt to allow it.
– PJRZ
2 hours ago
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While this is definitely the RAW, I feel the "one weapon attack only" was to prevent abuse with Extra Attack and the like. But since there's no proof of RAI, this is the better answer. I would definitely rule it differently, though.
– Jason_c_o
3 hours ago
2
It could be read as "if you use the Attack action to make a weapon attack then you only get one" rather than "you can only use the Attack action to make one weapon attack" (plus the other actions it states). It is a bit ambiguous. On the one hand, it specifically lists other actions such as Dodge etc but does not list Shove. On the other hand, it probably wouldn't hurt to allow it.
– PJRZ
2 hours ago
1
1
While this is definitely the RAW, I feel the "one weapon attack only" was to prevent abuse with Extra Attack and the like. But since there's no proof of RAI, this is the better answer. I would definitely rule it differently, though.
– Jason_c_o
3 hours ago
While this is definitely the RAW, I feel the "one weapon attack only" was to prevent abuse with Extra Attack and the like. But since there's no proof of RAI, this is the better answer. I would definitely rule it differently, though.
– Jason_c_o
3 hours ago
2
2
It could be read as "if you use the Attack action to make a weapon attack then you only get one" rather than "you can only use the Attack action to make one weapon attack" (plus the other actions it states). It is a bit ambiguous. On the one hand, it specifically lists other actions such as Dodge etc but does not list Shove. On the other hand, it probably wouldn't hurt to allow it.
– PJRZ
2 hours ago
It could be read as "if you use the Attack action to make a weapon attack then you only get one" rather than "you can only use the Attack action to make one weapon attack" (plus the other actions it states). It is a bit ambiguous. On the one hand, it specifically lists other actions such as Dodge etc but does not list Shove. On the other hand, it probably wouldn't hurt to allow it.
– PJRZ
2 hours ago
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