Which is faster: Enter the Battlefield Effects or Activated Abilities?

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What happens if I play a creature that destroys all other creatures when it enters the battlefield and in response, an opponent activates a creature ability that sacrifices his creatures to destroy target creature? Is his effect fast enough to destroy my creature, or does my creature destroy all his creatures first?







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    What happens if I play a creature that destroys all other creatures when it enters the battlefield and in response, an opponent activates a creature ability that sacrifices his creatures to destroy target creature? Is his effect fast enough to destroy my creature, or does my creature destroy all his creatures first?







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      What happens if I play a creature that destroys all other creatures when it enters the battlefield and in response, an opponent activates a creature ability that sacrifices his creatures to destroy target creature? Is his effect fast enough to destroy my creature, or does my creature destroy all his creatures first?







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      What happens if I play a creature that destroys all other creatures when it enters the battlefield and in response, an opponent activates a creature ability that sacrifices his creatures to destroy target creature? Is his effect fast enough to destroy my creature, or does my creature destroy all his creatures first?









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          Your opponent can destroy your creature first; but his creatures will still be destroyed as well.



          There is no notion of "faster" in MTG. Some people might say an instant is "faster" than a sorcery, but that is only because you have more opportunities to cast instants than you do sorceries. All abilities and spells have pretty much the same rules regarding how "fast" they are. (Mana abilities and certain game actions like playing a land are an exception).



          When your creature enters the battlefield, its ability is triggered. The trigger goes on the stack the next time a player would get priority, which makes the stack look like this:



          • Destroy all other creatures

          Then each player gets priority, and your opponent has a chance to activate his ability. If he does so, the stack now looks like this:



          • Destroy target creature

          • Destroy all other creatures

          If no one does anything else, the top item on the stack resolves. Your creature is destroyed. Then if no one does anything else, the next item on the stack resolves. All other creatures are destroyed.



          It doesn't matter that your creature dies first; its enter the battlefield ability still happens:




          112.7a Once activated or triggered, an ability exists on the stack independently of its source. Destruction or removal of the source after that time won’t affect the ability.




          Recommend reading through this question and this question if you want more details.






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            The stack, it always boils down to the stack. When in doubt, look at the stack. Good answer.
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            Sep 4 at 15:03










          • @Mast or layers....
            – Pureferret
            Sep 4 at 15:46










          • Layers are exclusively for replacement effects. If it's about when you can do something, it usually about priority. If it's about the order in which things happens, it's about priority, the stack and/or steps (game actions).
            – ikegami
            Sep 4 at 22:57


















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          Gendolkari beat me to the punch but I'll post this regardless:



          His ability will resolve first in this situation however both effects will happen.



          What happens is that your creature will enter the battlefield and put his "Destroy all other creatures" trigger on the stack. In response, your opponent can use his creature's activated ability to sacrifice it and put a "Destroy target creature" effect on the stack, on top of yours. You'll have the option to respond to that as well but assuming both players pass priority, the stack will look like this, from top to bottom:



          • Destroy your creature

          • Destroy all other creatures

          The top will resolve, destroying your creature. You both (starting with the active player) will have another chance to do stuff but if you both pass, the "Destroy all others" trigger will then resolve, doing exactly that.






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            Your opponent can destroy your creature first; but his creatures will still be destroyed as well.



            There is no notion of "faster" in MTG. Some people might say an instant is "faster" than a sorcery, but that is only because you have more opportunities to cast instants than you do sorceries. All abilities and spells have pretty much the same rules regarding how "fast" they are. (Mana abilities and certain game actions like playing a land are an exception).



            When your creature enters the battlefield, its ability is triggered. The trigger goes on the stack the next time a player would get priority, which makes the stack look like this:



            • Destroy all other creatures

            Then each player gets priority, and your opponent has a chance to activate his ability. If he does so, the stack now looks like this:



            • Destroy target creature

            • Destroy all other creatures

            If no one does anything else, the top item on the stack resolves. Your creature is destroyed. Then if no one does anything else, the next item on the stack resolves. All other creatures are destroyed.



            It doesn't matter that your creature dies first; its enter the battlefield ability still happens:




            112.7a Once activated or triggered, an ability exists on the stack independently of its source. Destruction or removal of the source after that time won’t affect the ability.




            Recommend reading through this question and this question if you want more details.






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              The stack, it always boils down to the stack. When in doubt, look at the stack. Good answer.
              – Mast
              Sep 4 at 15:03










            • @Mast or layers....
              – Pureferret
              Sep 4 at 15:46










            • Layers are exclusively for replacement effects. If it's about when you can do something, it usually about priority. If it's about the order in which things happens, it's about priority, the stack and/or steps (game actions).
              – ikegami
              Sep 4 at 22:57















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            Your opponent can destroy your creature first; but his creatures will still be destroyed as well.



            There is no notion of "faster" in MTG. Some people might say an instant is "faster" than a sorcery, but that is only because you have more opportunities to cast instants than you do sorceries. All abilities and spells have pretty much the same rules regarding how "fast" they are. (Mana abilities and certain game actions like playing a land are an exception).



            When your creature enters the battlefield, its ability is triggered. The trigger goes on the stack the next time a player would get priority, which makes the stack look like this:



            • Destroy all other creatures

            Then each player gets priority, and your opponent has a chance to activate his ability. If he does so, the stack now looks like this:



            • Destroy target creature

            • Destroy all other creatures

            If no one does anything else, the top item on the stack resolves. Your creature is destroyed. Then if no one does anything else, the next item on the stack resolves. All other creatures are destroyed.



            It doesn't matter that your creature dies first; its enter the battlefield ability still happens:




            112.7a Once activated or triggered, an ability exists on the stack independently of its source. Destruction or removal of the source after that time won’t affect the ability.




            Recommend reading through this question and this question if you want more details.






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              The stack, it always boils down to the stack. When in doubt, look at the stack. Good answer.
              – Mast
              Sep 4 at 15:03










            • @Mast or layers....
              – Pureferret
              Sep 4 at 15:46










            • Layers are exclusively for replacement effects. If it's about when you can do something, it usually about priority. If it's about the order in which things happens, it's about priority, the stack and/or steps (game actions).
              – ikegami
              Sep 4 at 22:57













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            Your opponent can destroy your creature first; but his creatures will still be destroyed as well.



            There is no notion of "faster" in MTG. Some people might say an instant is "faster" than a sorcery, but that is only because you have more opportunities to cast instants than you do sorceries. All abilities and spells have pretty much the same rules regarding how "fast" they are. (Mana abilities and certain game actions like playing a land are an exception).



            When your creature enters the battlefield, its ability is triggered. The trigger goes on the stack the next time a player would get priority, which makes the stack look like this:



            • Destroy all other creatures

            Then each player gets priority, and your opponent has a chance to activate his ability. If he does so, the stack now looks like this:



            • Destroy target creature

            • Destroy all other creatures

            If no one does anything else, the top item on the stack resolves. Your creature is destroyed. Then if no one does anything else, the next item on the stack resolves. All other creatures are destroyed.



            It doesn't matter that your creature dies first; its enter the battlefield ability still happens:




            112.7a Once activated or triggered, an ability exists on the stack independently of its source. Destruction or removal of the source after that time won’t affect the ability.




            Recommend reading through this question and this question if you want more details.






            share|improve this answer














            Your opponent can destroy your creature first; but his creatures will still be destroyed as well.



            There is no notion of "faster" in MTG. Some people might say an instant is "faster" than a sorcery, but that is only because you have more opportunities to cast instants than you do sorceries. All abilities and spells have pretty much the same rules regarding how "fast" they are. (Mana abilities and certain game actions like playing a land are an exception).



            When your creature enters the battlefield, its ability is triggered. The trigger goes on the stack the next time a player would get priority, which makes the stack look like this:



            • Destroy all other creatures

            Then each player gets priority, and your opponent has a chance to activate his ability. If he does so, the stack now looks like this:



            • Destroy target creature

            • Destroy all other creatures

            If no one does anything else, the top item on the stack resolves. Your creature is destroyed. Then if no one does anything else, the next item on the stack resolves. All other creatures are destroyed.



            It doesn't matter that your creature dies first; its enter the battlefield ability still happens:




            112.7a Once activated or triggered, an ability exists on the stack independently of its source. Destruction or removal of the source after that time won’t affect the ability.




            Recommend reading through this question and this question if you want more details.







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              The stack, it always boils down to the stack. When in doubt, look at the stack. Good answer.
              – Mast
              Sep 4 at 15:03










            • @Mast or layers....
              – Pureferret
              Sep 4 at 15:46










            • Layers are exclusively for replacement effects. If it's about when you can do something, it usually about priority. If it's about the order in which things happens, it's about priority, the stack and/or steps (game actions).
              – ikegami
              Sep 4 at 22:57













            • 3




              The stack, it always boils down to the stack. When in doubt, look at the stack. Good answer.
              – Mast
              Sep 4 at 15:03










            • @Mast or layers....
              – Pureferret
              Sep 4 at 15:46










            • Layers are exclusively for replacement effects. If it's about when you can do something, it usually about priority. If it's about the order in which things happens, it's about priority, the stack and/or steps (game actions).
              – ikegami
              Sep 4 at 22:57








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            The stack, it always boils down to the stack. When in doubt, look at the stack. Good answer.
            – Mast
            Sep 4 at 15:03




            The stack, it always boils down to the stack. When in doubt, look at the stack. Good answer.
            – Mast
            Sep 4 at 15:03












            @Mast or layers....
            – Pureferret
            Sep 4 at 15:46




            @Mast or layers....
            – Pureferret
            Sep 4 at 15:46












            Layers are exclusively for replacement effects. If it's about when you can do something, it usually about priority. If it's about the order in which things happens, it's about priority, the stack and/or steps (game actions).
            – ikegami
            Sep 4 at 22:57





            Layers are exclusively for replacement effects. If it's about when you can do something, it usually about priority. If it's about the order in which things happens, it's about priority, the stack and/or steps (game actions).
            – ikegami
            Sep 4 at 22:57











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            Gendolkari beat me to the punch but I'll post this regardless:



            His ability will resolve first in this situation however both effects will happen.



            What happens is that your creature will enter the battlefield and put his "Destroy all other creatures" trigger on the stack. In response, your opponent can use his creature's activated ability to sacrifice it and put a "Destroy target creature" effect on the stack, on top of yours. You'll have the option to respond to that as well but assuming both players pass priority, the stack will look like this, from top to bottom:



            • Destroy your creature

            • Destroy all other creatures

            The top will resolve, destroying your creature. You both (starting with the active player) will have another chance to do stuff but if you both pass, the "Destroy all others" trigger will then resolve, doing exactly that.






            share|improve this answer
























              up vote
              5
              down vote













              Gendolkari beat me to the punch but I'll post this regardless:



              His ability will resolve first in this situation however both effects will happen.



              What happens is that your creature will enter the battlefield and put his "Destroy all other creatures" trigger on the stack. In response, your opponent can use his creature's activated ability to sacrifice it and put a "Destroy target creature" effect on the stack, on top of yours. You'll have the option to respond to that as well but assuming both players pass priority, the stack will look like this, from top to bottom:



              • Destroy your creature

              • Destroy all other creatures

              The top will resolve, destroying your creature. You both (starting with the active player) will have another chance to do stuff but if you both pass, the "Destroy all others" trigger will then resolve, doing exactly that.






              share|improve this answer






















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                5
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                up vote
                5
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                Gendolkari beat me to the punch but I'll post this regardless:



                His ability will resolve first in this situation however both effects will happen.



                What happens is that your creature will enter the battlefield and put his "Destroy all other creatures" trigger on the stack. In response, your opponent can use his creature's activated ability to sacrifice it and put a "Destroy target creature" effect on the stack, on top of yours. You'll have the option to respond to that as well but assuming both players pass priority, the stack will look like this, from top to bottom:



                • Destroy your creature

                • Destroy all other creatures

                The top will resolve, destroying your creature. You both (starting with the active player) will have another chance to do stuff but if you both pass, the "Destroy all others" trigger will then resolve, doing exactly that.






                share|improve this answer












                Gendolkari beat me to the punch but I'll post this regardless:



                His ability will resolve first in this situation however both effects will happen.



                What happens is that your creature will enter the battlefield and put his "Destroy all other creatures" trigger on the stack. In response, your opponent can use his creature's activated ability to sacrifice it and put a "Destroy target creature" effect on the stack, on top of yours. You'll have the option to respond to that as well but assuming both players pass priority, the stack will look like this, from top to bottom:



                • Destroy your creature

                • Destroy all other creatures

                The top will resolve, destroying your creature. You both (starting with the active player) will have another chance to do stuff but if you both pass, the "Destroy all others" trigger will then resolve, doing exactly that.







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