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I've just been told by my company that I was being subscribed to an insurance scheme. The benefit of this scheme is that if I am absent due to sickness for a few days, then I am paid fully for these days. (Note: If I am absent for 4 days or more, then I am already covered by state insurance).
I wouldn't mind this new scheme, but I think the cost is ridiculous; it is equivalent to 10 days salary a year, and in the 11 years of working full time I have missed about 5 days total.
I have been told unequivocally that the scheme is mandatory, and that it is legal for them to inscribe me like this (which I fully believe). I have been unable to find out if my company gets a commission for each employee it inscribes.
So basically I feel like I am getting my pay docked with very little benefit to me. The only way I can think to redress the balance is if I start taking sick days for minor ailments such as colds, headaches etc., but honestly I would be very uncomfortable with this.
Generally I am satisfied with my job and like the work, but I have had disputes with HR before.
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I've just been told by my company that I was being subscribed to an insurance scheme. The benefit of this scheme is that if I am absent due to sickness for a few days, then I am paid fully for these days. (Note: If I am absent for 4 days or more, then I am already covered by state insurance).
I wouldn't mind this new scheme, but I think the cost is ridiculous; it is equivalent to 10 days salary a year, and in the 11 years of working full time I have missed about 5 days total.
I have been told unequivocally that the scheme is mandatory, and that it is legal for them to inscribe me like this (which I fully believe). I have been unable to find out if my company gets a commission for each employee it inscribes.
So basically I feel like I am getting my pay docked with very little benefit to me. The only way I can think to redress the balance is if I start taking sick days for minor ailments such as colds, headaches etc., but honestly I would be very uncomfortable with this.
Generally I am satisfied with my job and like the work, but I have had disputes with HR before.
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Do you need a doctor note to justify for sick days and be eligible to the insurance? Would there be consequences if you took 10 sick days a year? If not you may explain to HR/employer that this scheme allow you basically an extra 10 days of vacation and why this is bad for them.
– Jason Marechal
yesterday
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Are you sure this is legal? Because in Germany it wouldn´t be. And yes, having insight in the insurance industry, you can be sure somebody is getting a nice commission!
– Daniel
yesterday
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Could you tell us the french term for the insurance scheme ? Are you sure there isn't an "opt-out" option for the insurance ? Also, this question might be off topic here as it is about french work laws
– Aserre
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Would you be happy if you got a raise to match those 10 days you get billed for?
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I've just been told by my company that I was being subscribed to an insurance scheme. The benefit of this scheme is that if I am absent due to sickness for a few days, then I am paid fully for these days. (Note: If I am absent for 4 days or more, then I am already covered by state insurance).
I wouldn't mind this new scheme, but I think the cost is ridiculous; it is equivalent to 10 days salary a year, and in the 11 years of working full time I have missed about 5 days total.
I have been told unequivocally that the scheme is mandatory, and that it is legal for them to inscribe me like this (which I fully believe). I have been unable to find out if my company gets a commission for each employee it inscribes.
So basically I feel like I am getting my pay docked with very little benefit to me. The only way I can think to redress the balance is if I start taking sick days for minor ailments such as colds, headaches etc., but honestly I would be very uncomfortable with this.
Generally I am satisfied with my job and like the work, but I have had disputes with HR before.
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I've just been told by my company that I was being subscribed to an insurance scheme. The benefit of this scheme is that if I am absent due to sickness for a few days, then I am paid fully for these days. (Note: If I am absent for 4 days or more, then I am already covered by state insurance).
I wouldn't mind this new scheme, but I think the cost is ridiculous; it is equivalent to 10 days salary a year, and in the 11 years of working full time I have missed about 5 days total.
I have been told unequivocally that the scheme is mandatory, and that it is legal for them to inscribe me like this (which I fully believe). I have been unable to find out if my company gets a commission for each employee it inscribes.
So basically I feel like I am getting my pay docked with very little benefit to me. The only way I can think to redress the balance is if I start taking sick days for minor ailments such as colds, headaches etc., but honestly I would be very uncomfortable with this.
Generally I am satisfied with my job and like the work, but I have had disputes with HR before.
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Do you need a doctor note to justify for sick days and be eligible to the insurance? Would there be consequences if you took 10 sick days a year? If not you may explain to HR/employer that this scheme allow you basically an extra 10 days of vacation and why this is bad for them.
– Jason Marechal
yesterday
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Are you sure this is legal? Because in Germany it wouldn´t be. And yes, having insight in the insurance industry, you can be sure somebody is getting a nice commission!
– Daniel
yesterday
3
Could you tell us the french term for the insurance scheme ? Are you sure there isn't an "opt-out" option for the insurance ? Also, this question might be off topic here as it is about french work laws
– Aserre
yesterday
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What is your question? You should only ask practical, answerable questions on this site, but as it stands, it's very unclear what you're asking in your post. Please have a look at the help center to get some tips about how to ask good questions.
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Would you be happy if you got a raise to match those 10 days you get billed for?
– rath
yesterday
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Do you need a doctor note to justify for sick days and be eligible to the insurance? Would there be consequences if you took 10 sick days a year? If not you may explain to HR/employer that this scheme allow you basically an extra 10 days of vacation and why this is bad for them.
– Jason Marechal
yesterday
3
Are you sure this is legal? Because in Germany it wouldn´t be. And yes, having insight in the insurance industry, you can be sure somebody is getting a nice commission!
– Daniel
yesterday
3
Could you tell us the french term for the insurance scheme ? Are you sure there isn't an "opt-out" option for the insurance ? Also, this question might be off topic here as it is about french work laws
– Aserre
yesterday
3
What is your question? You should only ask practical, answerable questions on this site, but as it stands, it's very unclear what you're asking in your post. Please have a look at the help center to get some tips about how to ask good questions.
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Would you be happy if you got a raise to match those 10 days you get billed for?
– rath
yesterday
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1
Do you need a doctor note to justify for sick days and be eligible to the insurance? Would there be consequences if you took 10 sick days a year? If not you may explain to HR/employer that this scheme allow you basically an extra 10 days of vacation and why this is bad for them.
– Jason Marechal
yesterday
Do you need a doctor note to justify for sick days and be eligible to the insurance? Would there be consequences if you took 10 sick days a year? If not you may explain to HR/employer that this scheme allow you basically an extra 10 days of vacation and why this is bad for them.
– Jason Marechal
yesterday
3
3
Are you sure this is legal? Because in Germany it wouldn´t be. And yes, having insight in the insurance industry, you can be sure somebody is getting a nice commission!
– Daniel
yesterday
Are you sure this is legal? Because in Germany it wouldn´t be. And yes, having insight in the insurance industry, you can be sure somebody is getting a nice commission!
– Daniel
yesterday
3
3
Could you tell us the french term for the insurance scheme ? Are you sure there isn't an "opt-out" option for the insurance ? Also, this question might be off topic here as it is about french work laws
– Aserre
yesterday
Could you tell us the french term for the insurance scheme ? Are you sure there isn't an "opt-out" option for the insurance ? Also, this question might be off topic here as it is about french work laws
– Aserre
yesterday
3
3
What is your question? You should only ask practical, answerable questions on this site, but as it stands, it's very unclear what you're asking in your post. Please have a look at the help center to get some tips about how to ask good questions.
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Would you be happy if you got a raise to match those 10 days you get billed for?
– rath
yesterday
Would you be happy if you got a raise to match those 10 days you get billed for?
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There is a trick I learned from movie "Unbreakable" with Bruce Willis. I asked for a list of sick day I taken in last three years and used that info when talking about rise.
You can do the same thing - ask about sick days in few last years, talk with your manager, explain to him that:
- This scheme encourage you to NOT WORK otherwise you will earn less money
- Is bad for your morale because if you WON'T take sick day you will earn less working the same hours
- If this scheme is involuntarily you should get the rise to get your pay on the previous level.
On the persona note - talk with your manager that company deciding to sign employees for extra not-law-required expense without their consent is bad for morale. Now some employees may be happy with this insurance but what if company will decide to sign everyone for Ponzi Scheme? I would also ask if the company is pitching some (and if yes how much) to this insurance.
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I'd refrain from posting a generic answer about this question. This is quite specific to french law. In France, this is quite common, and every state employee has that kind of coverage by default (get paid on every sick day from day 1 as long as there is a doctor's note, with no yearly limit)
– Aserre
yesterday
This is something different than Assurance maladie.
– SZCZERZO KÃ…ÂY
yesterday
Of course. But there is also the mandatory "mutuelle" that every employer must subscribe for their employees. If that's the "mutuelle" that is reimbursing the sick days, there is nothing OP can do. If this is another optional "police d'assurance", then OP can opt out
– Aserre
yesterday
I would do the Bruce Willis approach, but do it to ask for a raise to compensate for the loss, since it sounds like there is no getting out of the insurance.
– Jim Clay
21 hours ago
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The simplest solution is:
Start to take sick days for "minor ailments such as colds, headaches etc.".
It is better for you, because you don't have to work when sick.
It is also better for your employer. Presenteeism leads to poorer results for the company, because you don't perform at a 100% while your employer has to pay you fully. There is also the risk that you infect coworkers.
From your wording, I assume you currently come to work sick if you have what you call "minor ailments". You shouldn't do that.
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Certainly don't come into work if you have a contagious disease but a headache doesn't qualify. Nevertheless this does not seem like a good solution, rather a tit-for-tat response that doesn't resolve the issue.
– Roy
yesterday
1
@Roy not a good solution for whom? The company profits, because instead of getting less than full performance from an employee while they still have to pay the full salary the don't have to pay anything.
– Josef
22 hours ago
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The OP, they clearly state in their question they are uncomfortable with taking days off for minor ailments.
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There is a trick I learned from movie "Unbreakable" with Bruce Willis. I asked for a list of sick day I taken in last three years and used that info when talking about rise.
You can do the same thing - ask about sick days in few last years, talk with your manager, explain to him that:
- This scheme encourage you to NOT WORK otherwise you will earn less money
- Is bad for your morale because if you WON'T take sick day you will earn less working the same hours
- If this scheme is involuntarily you should get the rise to get your pay on the previous level.
On the persona note - talk with your manager that company deciding to sign employees for extra not-law-required expense without their consent is bad for morale. Now some employees may be happy with this insurance but what if company will decide to sign everyone for Ponzi Scheme? I would also ask if the company is pitching some (and if yes how much) to this insurance.
answered yesterday
SZCZERZO KÃ…ÂY
95319
I'd refrain from posting a generic answer about this question. This is quite specific to french law. In France, this is quite common, and every state employee has that kind of coverage by default (get paid on every sick day from day 1 as long as there is a doctor's note, with no yearly limit)
– Aserre
yesterday
This is something different than Assurance maladie.
– SZCZERZO KÃ…ÂY
yesterday
Of course. But there is also the mandatory "mutuelle" that every employer must subscribe for their employees. If that's the "mutuelle" that is reimbursing the sick days, there is nothing OP can do. If this is another optional "police d'assurance", then OP can opt out
– Aserre
yesterday
I would do the Bruce Willis approach, but do it to ask for a raise to compensate for the loss, since it sounds like there is no getting out of the insurance.
– Jim Clay
21 hours ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
There is a trick I learned from movie "Unbreakable" with Bruce Willis. I asked for a list of sick day I taken in last three years and used that info when talking about rise.
You can do the same thing - ask about sick days in few last years, talk with your manager, explain to him that:
- This scheme encourage you to NOT WORK otherwise you will earn less money
- Is bad for your morale because if you WON'T take sick day you will earn less working the same hours
- If this scheme is involuntarily you should get the rise to get your pay on the previous level.
On the persona note - talk with your manager that company deciding to sign employees for extra not-law-required expense without their consent is bad for morale. Now some employees may be happy with this insurance but what if company will decide to sign everyone for Ponzi Scheme? I would also ask if the company is pitching some (and if yes how much) to this insurance.
answered yesterday
SZCZERZO KÃ…ÂY
95319
I'd refrain from posting a generic answer about this question. This is quite specific to french law. In France, this is quite common, and every state employee has that kind of coverage by default (get paid on every sick day from day 1 as long as there is a doctor's note, with no yearly limit)
– Aserre
yesterday
This is something different than Assurance maladie.
– SZCZERZO KÃ…ÂY
yesterday
Of course. But there is also the mandatory "mutuelle" that every employer must subscribe for their employees. If that's the "mutuelle" that is reimbursing the sick days, there is nothing OP can do. If this is another optional "police d'assurance", then OP can opt out
– Aserre
yesterday
I would do the Bruce Willis approach, but do it to ask for a raise to compensate for the loss, since it sounds like there is no getting out of the insurance.
– Jim Clay
21 hours ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
There is a trick I learned from movie "Unbreakable" with Bruce Willis. I asked for a list of sick day I taken in last three years and used that info when talking about rise.
You can do the same thing - ask about sick days in few last years, talk with your manager, explain to him that:
- This scheme encourage you to NOT WORK otherwise you will earn less money
- Is bad for your morale because if you WON'T take sick day you will earn less working the same hours
- If this scheme is involuntarily you should get the rise to get your pay on the previous level.
On the persona note - talk with your manager that company deciding to sign employees for extra not-law-required expense without their consent is bad for morale. Now some employees may be happy with this insurance but what if company will decide to sign everyone for Ponzi Scheme? I would also ask if the company is pitching some (and if yes how much) to this insurance.
answered yesterday
SZCZERZO KÃ…ÂY
95319
There is a trick I learned from movie "Unbreakable" with Bruce Willis. I asked for a list of sick day I taken in last three years and used that info when talking about rise.
You can do the same thing - ask about sick days in few last years, talk with your manager, explain to him that:
- This scheme encourage you to NOT WORK otherwise you will earn less money
- Is bad for your morale because if you WON'T take sick day you will earn less working the same hours
- If this scheme is involuntarily you should get the rise to get your pay on the previous level.
On the persona note - talk with your manager that company deciding to sign employees for extra not-law-required expense without their consent is bad for morale. Now some employees may be happy with this insurance but what if company will decide to sign everyone for Ponzi Scheme? I would also ask if the company is pitching some (and if yes how much) to this insurance.
answered yesterday
SZCZERZO KÃ…ÂY
95319
answered yesterday
SZCZERZO KÃ…ÂY
95319
answered yesterday
SZCZERZO KÃ…ÂY
95319
answered yesterday
SZCZERZO KÃ…ÂY
95319
95319
I'd refrain from posting a generic answer about this question. This is quite specific to french law. In France, this is quite common, and every state employee has that kind of coverage by default (get paid on every sick day from day 1 as long as there is a doctor's note, with no yearly limit)
– Aserre
yesterday
This is something different than Assurance maladie.
– SZCZERZO KÃ…ÂY
yesterday
Of course. But there is also the mandatory "mutuelle" that every employer must subscribe for their employees. If that's the "mutuelle" that is reimbursing the sick days, there is nothing OP can do. If this is another optional "police d'assurance", then OP can opt out
– Aserre
yesterday
I would do the Bruce Willis approach, but do it to ask for a raise to compensate for the loss, since it sounds like there is no getting out of the insurance.
– Jim Clay
21 hours ago
add a comment |Â
I'd refrain from posting a generic answer about this question. This is quite specific to french law. In France, this is quite common, and every state employee has that kind of coverage by default (get paid on every sick day from day 1 as long as there is a doctor's note, with no yearly limit)
– Aserre
yesterday
This is something different than Assurance maladie.
– SZCZERZO KÃ…ÂY
yesterday
Of course. But there is also the mandatory "mutuelle" that every employer must subscribe for their employees. If that's the "mutuelle" that is reimbursing the sick days, there is nothing OP can do. If this is another optional "police d'assurance", then OP can opt out
– Aserre
yesterday
I would do the Bruce Willis approach, but do it to ask for a raise to compensate for the loss, since it sounds like there is no getting out of the insurance.
– Jim Clay
21 hours ago
I'd refrain from posting a generic answer about this question. This is quite specific to french law. In France, this is quite common, and every state employee has that kind of coverage by default (get paid on every sick day from day 1 as long as there is a doctor's note, with no yearly limit)
– Aserre
yesterday
I'd refrain from posting a generic answer about this question. This is quite specific to french law. In France, this is quite common, and every state employee has that kind of coverage by default (get paid on every sick day from day 1 as long as there is a doctor's note, with no yearly limit)
– Aserre
yesterday
This is something different than Assurance maladie.
– SZCZERZO KÃ…ÂY
yesterday
This is something different than Assurance maladie.
– SZCZERZO KÃ…ÂY
yesterday
Of course. But there is also the mandatory "mutuelle" that every employer must subscribe for their employees. If that's the "mutuelle" that is reimbursing the sick days, there is nothing OP can do. If this is another optional "police d'assurance", then OP can opt out
– Aserre
yesterday
Of course. But there is also the mandatory "mutuelle" that every employer must subscribe for their employees. If that's the "mutuelle" that is reimbursing the sick days, there is nothing OP can do. If this is another optional "police d'assurance", then OP can opt out
– Aserre
yesterday
I would do the Bruce Willis approach, but do it to ask for a raise to compensate for the loss, since it sounds like there is no getting out of the insurance.
– Jim Clay
21 hours ago
I would do the Bruce Willis approach, but do it to ask for a raise to compensate for the loss, since it sounds like there is no getting out of the insurance.
– Jim Clay
21 hours ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
The simplest solution is:
Start to take sick days for "minor ailments such as colds, headaches etc.".
It is better for you, because you don't have to work when sick.
It is also better for your employer. Presenteeism leads to poorer results for the company, because you don't perform at a 100% while your employer has to pay you fully. There is also the risk that you infect coworkers.
From your wording, I assume you currently come to work sick if you have what you call "minor ailments". You shouldn't do that.
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Certainly don't come into work if you have a contagious disease but a headache doesn't qualify. Nevertheless this does not seem like a good solution, rather a tit-for-tat response that doesn't resolve the issue.
– Roy
yesterday
1
@Roy not a good solution for whom? The company profits, because instead of getting less than full performance from an employee while they still have to pay the full salary the don't have to pay anything.
– Josef
22 hours ago
1
The OP, they clearly state in their question they are uncomfortable with taking days off for minor ailments.
– Roy
22 hours ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
The simplest solution is:
Start to take sick days for "minor ailments such as colds, headaches etc.".
It is better for you, because you don't have to work when sick.
It is also better for your employer. Presenteeism leads to poorer results for the company, because you don't perform at a 100% while your employer has to pay you fully. There is also the risk that you infect coworkers.
From your wording, I assume you currently come to work sick if you have what you call "minor ailments". You shouldn't do that.
answered yesterday
Josef
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Certainly don't come into work if you have a contagious disease but a headache doesn't qualify. Nevertheless this does not seem like a good solution, rather a tit-for-tat response that doesn't resolve the issue.
– Roy
yesterday
1
@Roy not a good solution for whom? The company profits, because instead of getting less than full performance from an employee while they still have to pay the full salary the don't have to pay anything.
– Josef
22 hours ago
1
The OP, they clearly state in their question they are uncomfortable with taking days off for minor ailments.
– Roy
22 hours ago
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
The simplest solution is:
Start to take sick days for "minor ailments such as colds, headaches etc.".
It is better for you, because you don't have to work when sick.
It is also better for your employer. Presenteeism leads to poorer results for the company, because you don't perform at a 100% while your employer has to pay you fully. There is also the risk that you infect coworkers.
From your wording, I assume you currently come to work sick if you have what you call "minor ailments". You shouldn't do that.
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Josef
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The simplest solution is:
Start to take sick days for "minor ailments such as colds, headaches etc.".
It is better for you, because you don't have to work when sick.
It is also better for your employer. Presenteeism leads to poorer results for the company, because you don't perform at a 100% while your employer has to pay you fully. There is also the risk that you infect coworkers.
From your wording, I assume you currently come to work sick if you have what you call "minor ailments". You shouldn't do that.
answered yesterday
Josef
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Certainly don't come into work if you have a contagious disease but a headache doesn't qualify. Nevertheless this does not seem like a good solution, rather a tit-for-tat response that doesn't resolve the issue.
– Roy
yesterday
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@Roy not a good solution for whom? The company profits, because instead of getting less than full performance from an employee while they still have to pay the full salary the don't have to pay anything.
– Josef
22 hours ago
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The OP, they clearly state in their question they are uncomfortable with taking days off for minor ailments.
– Roy
22 hours ago
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Certainly don't come into work if you have a contagious disease but a headache doesn't qualify. Nevertheless this does not seem like a good solution, rather a tit-for-tat response that doesn't resolve the issue.
– Roy
yesterday
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@Roy not a good solution for whom? The company profits, because instead of getting less than full performance from an employee while they still have to pay the full salary the don't have to pay anything.
– Josef
22 hours ago
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The OP, they clearly state in their question they are uncomfortable with taking days off for minor ailments.
– Roy
22 hours ago
Certainly don't come into work if you have a contagious disease but a headache doesn't qualify. Nevertheless this does not seem like a good solution, rather a tit-for-tat response that doesn't resolve the issue.
– Roy
yesterday
Certainly don't come into work if you have a contagious disease but a headache doesn't qualify. Nevertheless this does not seem like a good solution, rather a tit-for-tat response that doesn't resolve the issue.
– Roy
yesterday
1
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@Roy not a good solution for whom? The company profits, because instead of getting less than full performance from an employee while they still have to pay the full salary the don't have to pay anything.
– Josef
22 hours ago
@Roy not a good solution for whom? The company profits, because instead of getting less than full performance from an employee while they still have to pay the full salary the don't have to pay anything.
– Josef
22 hours ago
1
1
The OP, they clearly state in their question they are uncomfortable with taking days off for minor ailments.
– Roy
22 hours ago
The OP, they clearly state in their question they are uncomfortable with taking days off for minor ailments.
– Roy
22 hours ago
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Do you need a doctor note to justify for sick days and be eligible to the insurance? Would there be consequences if you took 10 sick days a year? If not you may explain to HR/employer that this scheme allow you basically an extra 10 days of vacation and why this is bad for them.
– Jason Marechal
yesterday
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Are you sure this is legal? Because in Germany it wouldn´t be. And yes, having insight in the insurance industry, you can be sure somebody is getting a nice commission!
– Daniel
yesterday
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Could you tell us the french term for the insurance scheme ? Are you sure there isn't an "opt-out" option for the insurance ? Also, this question might be off topic here as it is about french work laws
– Aserre
yesterday
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What is your question? You should only ask practical, answerable questions on this site, but as it stands, it's very unclear what you're asking in your post. Please have a look at the help center to get some tips about how to ask good questions.
– YElm
yesterday
2
Would you be happy if you got a raise to match those 10 days you get billed for?
– rath
yesterday